Friday, December 25, 2009

Telangana XXVII: Violence mars Telangana Agitation

Indian Democracy failed

Indian Democracy has consistently failed Telangana people and other oppressed people in India. There are no mechanisms to address their grievances. All legitimate paths- electoral, legal and democratic- are closed for such minority and underprivileged. India does not take proactive or mature steps to address the aspirations of minority and underprivileged peoples or identities. It stalls all methods that can address them by bowing down to the majority and privileged who use the current flawed institutes to dominate and overpower all voices of dissent.

India has had many chances to address Telangana people’s woes. Instead, it chose to consistently pass those opportunities succumbing to the majority and privileged. Gentlemen’s Agreement of 1956 was flouted, 1969 agitation was ruthlessly suppressed, 1971 elections were hijacked, Supreme Court rulings of 1970s were overturned, 1980 GOs were repudiated, 2005 elections were once again hijacked, and 2009 election promises were broken. Telangana people were left with no choice. There was no path left open for them.

In 2009, when KCR started his fast, they found an avenue. When he wanted to end his fast, he was forced to continue by the students of Telangana. His fast gave the people of Telangana an avenue to present their case to the national scene. Most people of India had never heard of the word Telangana before that. Their riots made the Central Government sit up and take a look. On 9 December, they decided to grant Telangana statehood.

The message is clear. You riot, you get your demands. You go through democratic, electoral and legal paths, they will be denied. What kind of sham democracy did we create in India?

The message gets clearer when Samaikya Andhra protestors resort to the same tactics, riot, break, vandalize, increasing the tempo. As desired, P Chidambaram revoked his statements on Telangana bowing down to the riots of Andhra-Rayalaseema.

So, what did you establish as a rule of thumb in India by doing all this? Rioter always wins. Peaceful demonstrations, democratic, legal and electoral paths always lose. Riot, and riot more if necessary, terrorize and terrorize more if necessary, and that’s the only way you get things done in India. If you hesitate, or if you think twice, or if you pause, you lose. That’s the message we establish in India. What a pity.

Telangana people are not ready to reason now. They tell me that any peaceful demonstration is a sign of weakness. They say this is not the right time to preach restraint. This is the only way to get Telangana, they reiterate.

Yesterday’s riots

Though there has been a flare up in the city of Hyderabad, the violence was confined to few pockets. Most of the city remained calm. More importantly, other towns of Telangana which lends wider support to Telangana movement have been quite calm. Compared to agitations of 1969, the current agitation is considered mild.

I still maintain that violent protest is only one of the many expressions of Telangana Movement, and not a desirable one. The real movement is still retained by the majority of Telangana and they have not come out onto streets to riot. Their still seek a separate state but do not believe in violence. They are ordinary people with ordinary jobs and believe in peace and harmony. And they are not in a major hurry to get Telangana. They are more pragmatic and believe that if it is not now then it is later, but nobody gives up.

A Letter to Telangana people

Dear Telangana agitators:

I understand your frustrations. I understand your aspirations. You are in a hurry. You don’t want to wait. You have waited long enough – fifty three years is a long time. We are so close and yet so far. Now, every stumbling block seems like an eternity, every hiccup make us feel like the goal is moving away from us.

And yet, there is no excuse for the violence you have displayed yesterday. You have instilled fear into the people, both the Telangana people and others. Andhras who have lived in Telangana for many years in peace and comfort are now caught in a grip of fear and insecurity.

What you are doing is not momentary but will have a long lasting impression on every one in Telangana and others who are watching us. The seeds what we sow today during our agitation will have long term consequences. What kind of Telangana do you want make?

Take a minute to learn lessons from our own histories and histories of our neighbors. India stands unique in the whole world that it has sustained a non-violent movement for nearly thirty years to attain its independence. There are reasons for that. Our leaders headed by Mahatma Gandhi didn’t want to attain the freedom using violent methods. May be we would have got our freedom earlier if we had taken a violent path. But Gandhi reasoned it was better to delay the freedom by peace than get the freedom by violence.

Many freedom fighters of those times were exasperated with his methods. They were frustrated by his incessant orders to maintain peace even when fighting the alien rulers. In 1920s, when his movement turned violent with incidents like Chowri Chowra where 22 policemen were killed, he called off the movement resulting in lot of frustrations amongst Indian youth. Bhagat Singh et al deviated from Gandhi’s movement and took upon themselves to fight in their own way.

Today, we have a choice. Who do we emulate? I prefer the Gandhi way and never will endorse Bhagat Singh way. Just look at the history of other countries who have achieved freedoms through violent means. They have seen tumultuous histories of civil wars, dictatorships, suppression of peoples and regions, and even worse like in case of Indo China where genocides happened within their own countries.

A country born out of hate is no great country. Pakistan got dismembered in 1971 and is now under a spell of home grown terrorist attacks on a daily basis. There are enough examples from Africa and Southeast Asia of countries that have fought their colonial masters in a violent way and those methods only led to further violence, sectarianism and suppression of identities. It is clear that the methods to achieve our freedoms is as important as achieving the freedom itself.

India is a great country and stands as a unique country, thanks to our leaders who had a foresight. India, if it was achieved with violence would have been a disaster. Our country is too varied and too diverse to be united under a violent movement.

What kind of Telangana do we want? While I do admire and respect our forefathers who have led violent movements in India, I will not endorse them and recommend them for us.

Though I am a strong supporter of Telangana Movement I am not very happy with the way things are going. There can’t be targeting of Andhras. Period. No ifs and buts. There can’t be vandalism and the threatening of people. Period. No ifs and buts. Yes, I understand that peaceful methods in India are not recognized while the violent ones get the attention and therefore the results. Result is not as important as the means that we employ, because if we create a state on hatred, it is not going to last long. Hate will not keep us united for long.

Having said, that I will not let down my campaign to educate our Telangana brothers the injustices we have endured. I will not shy away from calling certain people the oppressors and certain people the oppressed. I will not shy away from calling spade a spade, discrimination a discrimination, and marginalization a marginalization. I will not be politically right about it.

This fight for our freedoms is about restoring our identity, and if it means toppling the rule of certain majority by creating a state for ourselves we should not hesitate to do so. But this fight for our freedoms doesn’t have to be violent. We have to show utmost restraint. The whole world is watching us and asking us, what kind of state Telangana is going to be? Are we going to tell that it is going to be a violent one – the way it was telecasted yesterday?

I know it is not easy to show restraint, but you have no choice. Restraint is the only way. Greater the cause harder the work. Work hard to restrain yourself. If you think violence is the only to attain this statehood, then many of us are not for it. I would rather wait another fifty years. I don’t want a Telangana formed on intimidation of fellow people. I don’t want a Telangana that is formed by oppression and alienation of certain people. Do you want to become the masters you are going to topple? Think again.

You can’t shove Jai Telangana onto someone who doesn’t believe in it. You may force him to do it, but you have not earned your respect. You don’t want that Jai Telangana by force. Let’s celebrate Telangana identity today, but let it be with freedom, not out of force.

I am disappointed that we didn’t get our state now. But I would be more disappointed if we attain statehood at the cost of intimidation, threats and violence.

Hold peace rallies

Take the families out, take the kids out, take the grandparents out, and walk the streets, holding peaceful rallies. Sing the songs of Telangana, our ballads that have inspired us and our movements. Enjoy the movement, hold festivities and picnics. Show your support through peaceful methods. And where necessary show it through non-cooperation, but ensure nobody or no property is harmed.

Hold politicians accountable

I advise you to channel your anger to something productive. I suggest you to implore your politicians to stand united for this cause. In the last elections they told us they would get us separate Telangana. So how come some of them are still sitting on the fence, some are dillydallying, while some have gone back on their word. Make them accountable now. Now is the time.

During the time of Independence there were many detractors within India who didn’t want British to leave India. There were many princes, industrialists, kings, who had a privileged life under British Empire. They didn’t want British to go. It was the Iron Man of India who saved the day for all of us, including the people of Telangana. He liberated us from the oppressive regime of Nizam. We celebrated our freedom on 17 September 1948 only to lose it on 1st November 1956. Like what they say, we fell from pan into the fire when Andhra Pradesh got formed.

Learn from Samaikya Andhra agitation. Look how the politicians of Andhra got united, irrespective of their parties. Now is the time we want our politicians to stand united on this people’s movement! Channelize your angst to pressurize your politicians. Spare everyone else.

242 comments:

  1. "7,795 crores of allocated 12,886 crores were spent in telangana region"

    Chandruniki adi oka noolu-pogu kooda kaadu!

    The "separate Andhra" leader Mr. Vasantha Nageswara Rao is asking for a 3,00,000 crores of package.. JUST for a new capital city!

    That is 3 followed by 12 zeros.

    And... how much is Jala-Yagnam promising us? A small fraction of it!

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  2. Folks:

    Its all over. Now Maoists are publicly supporting Telangana movement on telugu channels. Great move by maoists -- Telangana State creation is stopped indefinitely.

    Dumb Osmania Students JAC leader, some stupid Sridhar Goud, is thanking maoists for supporting telangana cause. Goud, continues saying that maoist threatening letters to telangana minsters have forced those ministers to resign.

    Thatswhy dumb idiots are leading this telangana movement and all kinds of anti-social elements are involved.

    What is this dumb move by maoists at this critical juncture?? They are sending signals to home minister chidambaram that this entire movement will be hijacked by maoists. Reaction from chidambaram, appoint the Chattisgarh governor Narisimhan, who has effectively crushed naxalites in that state to some extent.

    Maoists entered the scene and Telangana state creation is stopped indefinitely.

    Its all over -- in the name of naxalites, this movement will be crushed with iron hand.

    All peaceloving telanganites, please leave telangana to go to other places in search of prosperous lives.

    Atleast now understand, the importance of good leadership, who can lead and protect the telangana movement.

    Between police and naxalites, innocent telangana students will be made scapegoats.

    I am disgusted with the political leaders of telangana for their opportunistic vision. And from now on, telangana movement will be limited to blogs venting out our frustrations.

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  3. Archana

    r u dumbest? or do you think you can fool andhra people?

    you cant compare jalayagnam to a capital city.

    you should calculate how much government spent on Hyderabad, its the cost of Hyderabad dear.

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  4. Recently i have seen a news clip where Telangana people are asking Andhra people to forget about their beloved capital city by giving flowers near Buses that take to places in Andhra area.

    I just laughed how can some one ask to forget about the safety of their home,their family,their properties, their business place by just giving a flower?

    Its funny.

    One more intresting account.

    Recently our maid is asking us wheather we are Andhra People or Telangana people?
    I told her we are Indian's and asked why she asked this question.

    She says
    "Andhra people are grabing wealth,water and jobs of Telangana people and once Telangana is formed. Telangana people are going to send back Andhra people and grab their homes and wealth"

    People like Jaya Shankar,KCR etc are leaders and people like our maid are foot soldiers.
    This combination is a recipie for Genocide of Andhra people.

    I think they are rightly worried about their security and safety.

    All Andhra People must unite together to fight this terror brought upon them.

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  5. Blueshift,
    You are probably the most versatile moron I ever came across.
    First you come up with something which no body else is atleast interested in.
    Next,
    you make an assumption which is not a fact and build your feckless lacklustre argument on that.
    Over that, you expect a comprehensive answer to your senseless question.
    Either you are perplexed or euphoric I do not know but your reasoning is as shallow as a paper.
    For instance,
    "Recently our maid is asking us wheather we are Andhra People or Telangana people?
    I told her we are Indian's and asked why she asked this question.
    "

    (is that real?????) Even if it is true by an infinitesimal chance,
    no doubt such an euphoric answer might have left your maid in amusement and her answer no doubt left you guys irked.
    Where do you think you were when she asked that question? In US?
    You dumbass, you are so frightened to answer boldly, that you remind me of a scared monkey(looking at its own reflection).

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  6. "First you come up with something which no body else is atleast interested in."

    why are you responding when nobody is intrested?

    "you make an assumption"

    Ask any Andhra and Rayalaseema person in Hyderabad if they are feeling secure...?


    is that real?????

    Yes it is. It is more real than fake reasons for seperation of Telangana.


    For the language you used. I think you need to learn to be more civilized than you think you are.

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  7. Sravan

    It is not Blueshift who is a moran.

    It is you with Profound mental retardation (new term for Moran/Imbecile). I always laugh at your dumb ass analysis. Guys like you become people like Mugabe. U see what Mugabe has done to his country.

    I pity all of you

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  8. OfCourse high level bureaucracy.
    Bash up Andhraites since they are the bureaucracy

    Bash up the Andraites...They thought us curroption

    Bash up the Andraites ..They stole my drinking water


    Bash up the Andhraites ..They "occupied" my land


    Bash up the Andraites .. They replaced telangana hotels with "Andhra Meals"



    Bash up the Andhraites .. They mocked me in films



    Bash up the Andhraites ..They took away my mulki jobs


    My PC has just frozen ..bash up the Andhraites (!!! OHH they might have written this crappy software)


    Shame on u Andhraites ...U are the cause for global warming,corruption, lawless in the world..........Shame on you

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  9. Sravan,

    What Blue shift has posted is happening to a lot of folks in Hyderabad .. From your earlier posts I presume you are overseas. U will not understand the situation here. I have been approached by some and mockingly been asked to apply for VISA to visit hyderabad ..Do u know how it feels to hear that even if it was in light a hearted manner.

    There is supposed to be a sane dialogue if we were to seperate. Not threats about chopping of poeples heads and tongues if you not fall in line. I once supported Telangana and still feel strongly about it. The threatening posture that the Telangana leaders have taken up makes me stand up and fight for my rights.


    You talk about Andhraites blocking the creation of Telangana do u know why??? Since 2004 Telangana movement for all the wrong reasons has been hijacked by KCR. Since that time his rhetoric is getting worse..There might be justice in your struggle but I a So called setller ("inpsite of of being bron here") will not give up our homes that easily ..

    Please dont counter the argument that constitution gurantees equal rights where ever you are in India??

    If everything happened according to the constitution you and I would not be sparring on this message board.

    There is evil on both sides but dont make the common man pay for it

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  11. It is quite natural that people will instinctively react to the profanity used against them. In due course they will only remember and focus on those few words. That is what I can only see from most of the reaction against my previous comment. I actually intentionally used those.
    I think you guys have developed a good amounts of hatred against telangana and KCR. This I again point to your instinctive reaction. You unknowingly have fallen for his words and ascribe his viewpoint to all telangana people. That is why you are just giving those examples.
    I completely abhor such a propoganda you seem to express here. Because that only supports separation rather than what I think you guys really want(United I assume).
    Where as the posts here do not express such a hatred against andhraites you guys take it the same anyway. Just because a politician is blabbering some rubbish it does not mean everyone who is expressing their desire to see a separate telangana wants to kick out andhraites who already settled here.
    remember this attacks did not begin until after the Union's backturn on the issue in reaction to the mayhem created by andhra regions. In due course they have created a bad precedent for telangana people to go violent to achieve their aspirations. But a whole lot ofpeople in telangana do not want that.
    Well if there were some riots in Old city against muslims, it certainly does not mean that all hindus in hyderabad wanted that. The same thing can be applied here. We want the separation to go peacefully. As people sharing similar language culture for centuries we would like to keep our bonds intact and friendly even after separation.
    But samaikhyandra movement was ployed by some businessman and politicians for their vested interests and have created a sense of fear in andhra people.
    Whereas JAC has been insisting on a peaceful path, only certain antisocial elements have taken the opportunity to do such a kind of massacre. And this no way means that telangana people want to kick out those settlers. If people really wanted this then they would have reacted to KCR's words very long back.
    It seems like you people are waiting this to happen for a while.

    to srepen,
    Please dont counter the argument that constitution gurantees equal rights where ever you are in India??

    So you kmow that right. And you know how to exercise your right. Well why do you really care about a bunch of goons who are falsely proclaining them as telangana supporters?

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  12. "But samaikhyandra movement was ployed by some businessman and politicians for their vested interests and have created a sense of fear in andhra people.
    Whereas JAC has been insisting on a peaceful path, only certain antisocial elements have taken the opportunity to do such a kind of massacre"


    Have you heard of an old adage goes something like "memu cheste sarasam, meeru cheste ranku".

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  13. "That is 3 followed by 12 zeros.

    And... how much is Jala-Yagnam promising us? A small fraction of it! "


    Your comparison is totally misplaced, monies spent for Jalayagnam is reality, and Vasantha's comments are inane, at best his wish list. But I did realize that You & Sravan are not willing to listen, and are in shut-out, any one that doesn't like to see the state split, mode. So there is no point in continuing dialogue.

    BTW, I've done a lot of research on the stats provided by JayaShankar et al, and am convinced that 50% are falsified or twisted to suit their agenda.

    Good luck with your fight.

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  14. "Vasantha's comments are inane"
    Just like all the samaikhyandra concept
    " But I did realize that You & Sravan are not willing to listen"

    We have a reasonable case here my firend. i cn't help you if you are not ready to look through the entire posts here by sujai and the comments from several of us.
    I've done a lot of research on the stats provided by JayaShankar et al, and am convinced that 50% are falsified or twisted to suit their agenda.

    I would be most happy to see your 50% of the falsified results.
    Don't forget the other 50%
    50% percent is huge my friend. either way.

    Where as telangana case is backed by obvious underdevelopment, unfair implementation of GO 610;6 point formula; mulki rules, Bureaucratic and political domination
    Smaikhyandra has just one stupid reason
    "united we stand divided we fall"

    None of the agitators have said atleast wonce in a while that we would try to restructure the present situation except for this untrustworthy statement
    Does it ring any bell?

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  15. BTW, I've done a lot of research on the stats provided by JayaShankar et al, and am convinced that 50% are falsified or twisted to suit their agenda.

    Unlike most morons who are against formation of Telangana state, I am open minded to change my opinion if you show me the statistics to PROVE ALL OF THE FOLLOWING:

    1. State govt. of Andhra Pradesh spent their due share in Telangana.
    2. State govt. Of Andhra pradesh did everything to stop the suicides of poor farmers in Telangana.
    3. State govt. of Andhra Pradesh established schools, colleges and treated the Telangana schools the same way they did in the other regions (with reg to afternoon meals etc).
    4. State govt. of AP didn't show discrimination against the Telangana accent by perpetuating a negative campaign through the school textbooks. Andhra is prakruti, Telangana is vikruti! There is no mention of the history of Hyderabad in history or language books.

    No matter how many statistics you contest Mr. OM, you cannot contest the acute poverty, lack of educational opportunities and the utter dis-regard shown to the poor and the backward telangana villages.


    But.... if you can prove to me that DUE JUSTICE WAS DONE, ALL PEOPLE WERE TREATED EQUALLY and everything was done without contempt or malice towards a whole race for their culture and accent, I will become a convert!


    CAN YOU?

    BRING OUT YOUR STATISTICS! I have full access to information and statistics too... And, unlike most of you guys, I am not in software or IT to be lacking basic arithmetic and reasoning skills. Lets go over the so called statistics you have!

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  16. No matter how many statistics you contest Mr. OM, you cannot contest the acute poverty, lack of educational opportunities and the utter dis-regard shown to the poor and the backward telangana villages.

    Do you think archana you are going to get the answers from these people? They will just ignore to give you the "facts" they were stressing until now.
    But some other moron wil now come up with the old local poltical incompetence shit
    Watch out.

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  17. Tick Tick tick I am counting...

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  18. Have you heard of an old adage goes something like "memu cheste sarasam, meeru cheste ranku".

    I think that is some thing pro-telangana.

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  19. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0f8r1I4aDU&feature=related

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  20. Sravan:

    Relax man, majority of the people who are sane and with good heart have sympathy and genuine concern for telangana movement and telangana people's backwardness. No one is denying the injustice done to our telangana region by the political class.

    Just think about normal middle class telangana families and students, who are really facing all the difficulties on the ground because of this total collapse of normal life due to these regular strikes and violence. We people leading luxurious lives can have all the fun of playing mind games on these blogs. But who is paying the actual price on the ground?? Our own small transportation business got affected so much due to these strikes, we are findng it hard to pay salaries to our employees.

    Without normalcy and peace, can you proceed furthur on this telangana state creation??

    When Hyd feels insecure and its brand affected, is it good for our economy??

    Will KCR and TRS, pay the price for all the economic damage done to the telangana familes and students?? KCR if not stopped, eventually he will make a Palamur out of Hyderabad.

    Do you know why every sane person hates KCR, because he is a symbol of hatred??

    How many sane famous telanganites or from JAC, have openly condemned KCR's hate rhetoric in public or on Television? Don't you think that this entire telangana cause is being dominated by KCR?

    By satisfying few people inferiority complex, and givng instant entertainment to some misguided rural telangana youth, KCR has converted genuine telangana self-rule, self-respect aspirations into a sick-minded hatred campaign.

    New separate creation should be a win-win situation to both the new states and not a lose-lose situation.

    All sane telanganites please wake-up and stop this KCR-likes hijacking our telangana movement, otherwise we will be pushing our telangana region's development back by 30 years.

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  21. What do you call people, who support FASCIST MORONS like KCR??

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  22. I propose a littering fine of $500 on Ashok. He reminds me of people pissing on walls in Hyderabad.. He doesn't have anything to contribute.... I AM AMAZED AT HIS LITTERING ABILITY!

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  23. I propose to make Idler-Sravan gang to clean the littering of KCR in the state of Andhra Pradesh??

    This gang are not all fit for any constructive purpose but only for destruction.

    Idler, don't assume that all sane telangana people are pissing like dogs like you on the walls of great city of Hyderabad.

    Just to promote your idiot KCR, you assholes can go to any extent to destroy the lives of ordinary innocent telangana people.

    Whats the difference between you and your friend (Naxalite Kishenji - Koteswara Rao), publicly pissing hate, on telugu channels??

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  24. Idler seems to have a peculiar sense of expression in his postings. I am really amazed by his command over the choice of words which also shows his sorry state of mind & body. I can easily guess what he eats for his stomach.

    Idler : "Aarogyame maha bhagyamu". You should take care of your health. Please make sure to pay a visit to Erragadda hospital before it is too late. And by the way, there is one in Vizag too and I am sure you will be allowed regardless of your region. As a first step in this process, stop being deaf. Open your ears and become receptive. If you think you cannot or do not want to ,then so be it. You are already blind and deaf, you can also claim the credit of being dumb.

    I know this blog is for the Telangana people, by the Telangana people , of the Telangana people. And what am I doing on your forum ? There is nothing wrong in expressing your thoughts and opinions. But if you are not willing to look from the other side of the coin then the medium you have chosen for expressing your opinions may not be correct. You should be receptive to other's point of you too. Otherwise, do not let others to post comments. Make it a subscription only website allowing posters with allegiance towards the telangana cause and outcast all others. This is just a suggestion and you can and will anyways throw your chosen expletives to drive your point of view.

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  25. Ashok,
    Ok Tell me whether do you like to have a separate telangana or not?
    Just say yes or No first.
    Then you leave any other statement

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  26. Archana,
    Could you please post the stats for the benefit of us "MORONS". Being from software/IT, I am seriously challenged of intellectual and reasoning abilities. I have never participated in electoral process and never had an opportunity to vote. I was never part of the system so I might have lost my moral right to comment or blame the elected leaders. So my stats on the functioning of the Government are almost nil but if you can please provide me with those details, I am sure many of the posters who are ignorant will surely be enlightened. My only association with the Telangana region comes by the virtue of my birth in Hyderabad. The schools that I attended which were kind of a minority, did not segregate based on the region the pupils belonged to. So I do not have first hand information on marginalization of people along regional lines. Many of my close friends who hail from Telangana region could somehow prosper and reach great heights in their respective careers. They were able to make good under an oppressive regime which was hell bent of suppressing and marginalizing people for Telangana. I also have few friends from interior parts of Telangana who developed a strong liking for "Anna" culture. Their argument was that "Anna"s came in to existence to fight the landlords in their respective places since ordinary people could not. I thought these landlords represented oppression but alas... I am from IT/software with questionable reasoning and analytical skills. With whatever limited typing skills I could gather, I searched for the meaning of opression and found this dumb website (http://www.aolsvc.merriam-webster.aol.com/dictionary/oppression). May be I am looking at a wrong location. If you can provide the stats, I am sure all the mis-conceptions can be erased. And for once and all I will stamp in my mind that the Govt of Andhra Pradesh and people from non-telangana districts of Andhra Pradesh are same and can be used interchangeably.

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  27. Some idiots and hypocrites, who are leading peaceful and happy prosperous lives in far distant developed nations, are blindly overlooking the value of "freedom and liberty" provided in their broadminded liberal communities and neighbourhoods, in nations like US.

    But these idiots never imagine, what would happen to their loved ones and families, if some racial attacks happen in their neighbourhoods in US/UK/Australia etc. These sadistic fools are enjoying the pain of insecurity and fear, that hyderabad people are going through. They should remember onething, there are people like Klux-Klux-Klan, Hitler, who are Godfathers of KCR, even in western nations. So, no one is safe on this planet, if hatred-spreading morons like KCR are alive or encouraged.

    "Throwing stones comfortably sitting in a safe and secured place is easy, but if you have balls come on to the ground and face the music, which middle class telanganite is going through"

    "Prathi Pakinimaalina Vedhava, telangana vaadini ani cheppukoni telangana valla paruvu, brahtukulu naasanam cheyyadam thappa. Nijamugaa meeru self-less ga oka saati telangana vaadiki yemanna manchi pani chesaara?.

    Yentha kaalam yedusthaam yedhuti vaadi yedhugudhalani chuusi, anyaayam jarigndhi ani yentha kaalam yedusthaam, yenni generations yedavaali, manaki competition ni face cheyyadam chetha kaadha. Chetha kaani KCR laanti dhaddhammala chethulo baanisalamaa?? Alochinchandi""

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  28. Sravan:

    I have called you "Anna", out of respect for your passion for Telangana. Look at all my previous posts, they clearly say that "I am for telangana without violence".

    Your style of achieving "Telangana" might be different from mine. I don't know which style will succeed eventually.

    But you shouldn't blindly ignore the opinions of others from telangana. "My way or highway approach -- doesn't work in a democracy and civilized society"

    Please have some patience, otherwise -- its dangerous.

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  29. Sravan:

    FYI, I have lot of andhra/seema friends and when I discuss the issues and present the advantages of separation through peaceful and friendly process, many of them are mentally prepared for such a scenario. But if I use donkey-mind approach and vulgar language abuse like KCR, with these andhra/seema friends, do you think it will work, they will revolt and resist the separation.

    I am really surprised, you are educated and civilized, how come you are calling me littering and at the same time ignoring KCR-littering?? Do you think KCR-littering will get us Telangana?? Do you think, KCR will stop littering after Telangana formation?? Do you support a littering fellow like KCR as CM of Telangana?? Do you think, telangana people will lead a prosperous and happy life under KCR's littering leadership??

    Aren't you blind, to support creation of telangana by any means, even if it means destruction for future generations of Telangana?? What kind of telangana you want to create, like a Maoist-China?? No freedom of expression!!

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  30. Many folks, many Idlis, in this forum are calling me "littering", just because I supported "Telangana creation without violence and hatred". That means, these Idlis are indirectly supporting KCR-The symbol of hatred.

    Look at the pathetic state of educated folks supporting KCR?

    At the current status of the telangana movement, KCR has become the symbol of all negativity in the telangana movement. Ask any sane person in urban and rural telangana.

    I am asking for an alternative to KCR, who can project and stand for positivity in the telangana movement. Otherwise, Welcome to "New Telangana - Maoist China"!!

    God please save us from wicked KCR!

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  31. Ashok,
    I never did say anything like I support violence. I already mentioned that before. You are grossly mistaken assuming that.
    We detest because you write the same crap repeatedly instead of following the argument we are in. We already discussed KCR crap to death long before you found us.
    I again advise you in a very forendly manner go through our comments and Sujai's posts. Try to be in the context and not out of it.

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  32. Look at the attacks on film industry:

    Who is stopping telangana-rich in becoming film producers??

    How many rich telangana-NRIs, who are greatly funding KCR-hate campaign, are interested in film business?? They invest only when great return on investment is guaranteed -- good political and business interests in brand new telangana state.

    Who is stopping our rich telangana people in venturing into risky film business and promoting telangana culture, language, actors, actresses??

    Who is stopping talented boys and gals from telangana from taking-up acting profession?? Tollywood has shit-load of actresses from north, do you think they will stop beautiful gals from telangana taking-up this profession?? By the way, how many native telugu actresses are there now-a-days in tollywood?

    How many telangana youth have interest to join film acting institutes?? How many telangana producers are willing to support our telangana people in leading roles in films??

    For 60 years, our rich telangana people have been sleeping happily in their cozy luxurious comforts, and one fine day they divert all the blame on someone else. What an easy clean approach??

    We can always come-up with some bullshit logic to cover-up our own lack of interest in movie profession and business, but conveniently take shelther under "envy umbrella".

    Out of our desperation and frustration, we attack film industry and other industry, and in this process many innocent middle class families, small entrepreneurs, unemployed youth and students, are the losers. Who cares, "Jai Telangana by any means".

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  33. Ashok,
    If you go through previous posts you will also find that we silenced most of the arguments against telangana which only focuson KCR. WE are really tired to say anything on the topic again,
    COme with some sensible advises next time.
    Not again the naxal crap/

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  34. Sravan:

    Whats your problem, if I repeat a good message, again and again, that do the movement without violene??

    Repeated message by many Idlis in this blog like "blame all our ills on others", isn't crap for you??

    A good message, repeated again and again becomes crap for you. Why?? Did I ask you to read my comment again and again?? Did I ask you to reply to my comments?? If you don't like it or getting impatient to my comments, just ignore my comments and don't stoop to the level of calling "littering" blah blah.

    My messages are not only for you and only Idlis -- its for wider audience of telangana/andhra/seema people, who might be viewing this blog. They might feel happy to see that there are some sane people in telangana who differ with KCR-style and interested in peaceful and friendly separation without hate for others.

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  35. Sravan:

    What Naxal crap my friend??

    Naxalites are coming out publicly and talking about their involvement in telangana movement and their vision for new telangana state on TV channels for hours and hours. Go and tell the media outlets to stop airing those naxalite speeches on TV.

    Entire public of AP and India have already viewed those naxalite promoting speeches on telangana movement on TV. If you and I think its crap, it doesn't matter. Naxalite involvement will be taken seriously by police and government. Infact police are waiting for this move of naxalites coming out publicly and so that police can use force on students.

    Don't call others suggestions as Crap and then invite the same people to give you valuable advice. Its like your brain is already brain-washed and programmed with certain views and thoughts -- so anyone differs with those programmed thoughts they becomes your hate-target. Why I say, hate, is because look at the kind of words you guys use for others views, like "crap", "littering" etc etc.

    Wow, I am happy to know that your brain is open for new diverse views. Thats a positive sign, hopefully.

    Thanks!

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  36. A
    Please dont expect violence will help you.
    DO not endorse violence or naxals.
    Naxals are just anotherp olitical party and they are very corrupt.
    Do not endorse them
    That will not help you achieve separate telangana.
    Stop all the violence immediately and follow others who have been celebrating all kinds of festivals while at the same time running the movement.
    Violent does not help any body Ashok.
    Stop suporting violence man.
    We here are all peace loving guys in telangana.
    Don't side with your ally KCR and do not listen to him.
    We can get telangana with out his help also.
    He already lost his position now,
    Students have takeb up the job

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  37. Sravan:

    Students have taken up the job of getting telangana -- thats great. Always helpful when youth are involved in the movement.

    But how to distinguish , who is student or who is naxalite on OU and KU campuses??

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  38. Ashok,
    tell your andhra firends not to instigate violence. Tell them to act friendly. You also do not take up any drastic steps man. Remember, your parents and family have some hopes on you. Do not break away. Try to think coherently. Do not loose yourself in paranoid delusions. Look at telngana students and people and how peacefully they are working to achieve a separate state. Nowadays andhra region is full of naxalites. No one knows who is naxalite, who is politician , who is student and who is a business man. So it is your responsibility man to help them get on right path. The right path is always non-violence. So do not force yourself with rest of others. Take non-violence as your agenda. I hope you will understand that the non-violent and peaceful approach of telangana people is not considered as weakness by your factionist friends.
    So teach your andhra people what non-violence means. Do not take any step in haste that will keep you behind bars forever. So say no to violence and yes to peace. Deliver this peace message to all your andhra folks man. If one person like you will change others will follow you.

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  39. Sravan :

    Brother, lets put all the hatred and violence behind and I wish you a very Happy Telangana New Year. 2010 will be a turning point in the history of telangana people. I am all for a hatred-free telangana and andhra states, happily living together as friendly and peaceful neighbors.

    My new year resolution: Stop anyone who is spreading violence and hatred among telugu people.

    Happy Greetings for New Telangana State!!

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  40. about our agricultural lands that have been neglected for decades, our water resources that are wasted into oceans and exploited by our neighbors, our children and youth in spite of their hard work and education only have a thinnest possible hope to be employed in a safe job, to know the feeling of being able to drive our government to work for our betterment, respect from people around the nation for being a telanganite and not be

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