tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post1782049345054910855..comments2024-03-27T13:09:26.512+05:30Comments on E=mc^2: Telangana 48: Idiotic journalismSujaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comBlogger179125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-44100280713020926742010-02-25T13:52:17.435+05:302010-02-25T13:52:17.435+05:302 Days ago, I've tuned Aaj Tak Hindi News Chan...2 Days ago, I've tuned Aaj Tak Hindi News Channel. They were airing a program on the Pune Bomb blast conspiracy. In that they've shown some visuals of the CCTV cameras installed outside of the "O Hotel" and "Osho Asram" and the presenter was saying that these videos can be of a great use in investigating the case.<br /><br />Is Aaj Tak linked allied with the terrorist groups? Or is it that the Indian cops are too lazy to grab those videos of the CCTV cameras before a private News channel like Aaj Tak airs them on TV with 'Aaj Tak Exclusive' water mark?<br /><br />Should we blame the media for their over excitement or the inactivity of the Indian bureaucrats. Hope Mr Ali had an answer!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12814607621941410196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-86973556877360550202010-02-25T09:59:55.796+05:302010-02-25T09:59:55.796+05:30Excellent Article, I posted my comment on the orig...Excellent Article, I posted my comment on the original article of this asshole Mr Ali on www.ibnlive.com but could not communicate well because of the characters constraint. Anyhow I posted another comment with the URL of your blog.PatriotNo1noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-92038647571944297912010-02-25T05:49:27.041+05:302010-02-25T05:49:27.041+05:30Chandu, that is a clever tactic.
Delaying the SRSP...Chandu, that is a clever tactic.<br />Delaying the SRSP by annually providing money for only maintainance and salaries the costs has swelled. Initially planned at 40 crores now it has gone up to 1900 crores. But still it is in phase I.<br /> Not only quantity but quality is important.<br /> Until the andhra majority and bureaucracy dominates in the state, nothing good can happen to telanganasravanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08870220615305693426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-15689858229631172842010-02-25T03:49:21.657+05:302010-02-25T03:49:21.657+05:30Hey don't blame the journalists.See this piece...Hey don't blame the journalists.See this piece from Timesofindia.<br /><br />The Anatomy Of A Suicide<br />Kingshuk Nag & G Arun Kumar, TNN, Feb 24, 2010, 01.16am IST<br />timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/The-Anatomy-Of-A-Suicide/articleshow/5609423.cmsdeccaninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-61445008880065185882010-02-24T20:55:40.989+05:302010-02-24T20:55:40.989+05:30@Chandu.
//(1) Irrigation
(2) Jobs
(3) Funds dive...@Chandu.<br /><br />//(1) Irrigation<br />(2) Jobs<br />(3) Funds diverted.//<br /><br />See my answer regarding above in this blogs new post 'Naxal'. I can not monitor the old post's comments, so I am answering there for your questions.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-88056525178852330402010-02-24T19:24:14.003+05:302010-02-24T19:24:14.003+05:30@sravan
Thanks for the reply.
It would be easy fo...@sravan<br /><br />Thanks for the reply.<br />It would be easy for me if you can point to a certain post in this blog on this subject.<br /><br /> <br />So I can see two points from your post. One is Bhargava committe about 100 crore funds and Girglani commission abt 1 lakh jobs. I wont deny anything here. But it would be good if you can share source of this info.<br /><br />Note that we were not talking about the inability to do some things. We were talking about only the diversion of resources. There were lot of projects ignored by govt of AP in all parts of AP.<br /><br /><br />So the better measure would me the money spent on the irrigation in rest of AP and telangana. We dont have clear info on this.<br /><br />So there are three parameters here:<br /><br />(1) Irrigation<br />(2) Jobs<br />(3) Funds diverted.<br /><br />If you have some specific info on these diversions, Please write with source of info.<br /><br />Are these only parameters or Do you have anything to include on the parameters list to prove discrimination of Telangana region in Andhra Pradeshchandunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-59473879081605049472010-02-24T17:30:48.362+05:302010-02-24T17:30:48.362+05:30Great post !Great post !Twinklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-84539957151976219372010-02-24T15:57:47.580+05:302010-02-24T15:57:47.580+05:30//Stop this railing and grudge against people from...//Stop this railing and grudge against people from other regions.//<br /><br />We are not haters of any other regions. May be you are pointing the TRS, we are no associates or followers of TRS.<br /><br />//As a Hyderabadi I learnt how to live as a cosmopolitian Indian and be friendly with 'settlers'.//<br /><br />Did they learned that?<br /><br />//Hyderabad can be tarnished by a few selfish politicians I know how to raise my voice//<br /><br />Its a free country. You have every right to do such.<br /><br />//Let us get innovate to devise ways in which Telangana could be developed.//<br /><br />We started it long back, our first phase is to separate the Telangana state.<br /><br />If you still want to discuss, you can move to recent post, I am not following the old posts comments.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-5619148952871275392010-02-24T15:34:41.295+05:302010-02-24T15:34:41.295+05:30What were those resources/funds that were hijacked...<i>What were those resources/funds that were hijacked from Telangana to rest of AP. What are the developments that took place in rest of AP because of these resources?</i><br /> <br />I think you should go back and see the more than 40 odd posts written by Sujai in this blog.<br /> And about funds ,<br />Bhargava committee has calculated that about 100 crores from the telangana surplus had been utilized out side the region by 1969. <br /> Do you know what was the initial cost of SRSP in 1963? Just 40 crores.<br />You don't need to be an economist to judge where those funds were spent. And 100 crores in 1950's and 60's is a very huge amount.<br />Due to meager funds provided annually SRSP is still incomplete and the costs increased to astronomical levels due to inflation.<br />This is just one of the cases.<br />And the Girglani commission reports that more than 1 lakh jobs were alloted to andhra against the rules from 1975- 1989.<br /> So you can imagine the actual job losses to telangana. More, all these illegal job holders got legalized due to their extended presence in telangana. Their children are now locals.<br /> I don't think you would not be able to imagine the actual job losses telangana people and their families had suffered.<br /><br />And regarding development in Andhra,<br /> all the new Power production units after 1970's that are based on coal(from telangana) were set up in Andhra. And telangana continues to supply them with coal on subsidized rates.<br />Most andhra people say that the delta projects that cater andhra irrigation were completed before 1950.<br />They ignore the fact that all thes projects were reconstructed after merger as the earlier projects were expiring.<br />Recently 9000 crores were alloted to Krishna delta project for modernization.<br /> But as ususual SRSP gets the same few 100 crores for maintainence.<br />Andhra gets 4000 crores for Polavaram, but govt. does not provide few hundred crores for completion of RJS, Devadula projects.<br />Don't you see any marginalization here????sravanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08870220615305693426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-2743688081062147162010-02-24T13:19:21.574+05:302010-02-24T13:19:21.574+05:30@sravan
Dont prejudge people as you are already d...@sravan<br /><br />Dont prejudge people as you are already doing in the case of Telangana. I studied in a govt school from 1-10 and then studied in private schools as they were very few govt institutions.<br /><br />I would encourage you or sujai to write a blog on two things:<br /><br />What were those resources/funds that were hijacked from Telangana to rest of AP. What are the developments that took place in rest of AP because of these resources?chandunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-84777409514746230862010-02-24T13:10:55.314+05:302010-02-24T13:10:55.314+05:30@Telangana Bidda
I dont see any laughable commen...@Telangana Bidda <br /><br />I dont see any laughable comments from JP.<br /><br />The question was:<br /><br />pavva:Is it true that really telangana region losing their funds and water? <br /><br />The question is not about developing good resources of water, the question is about Is telangana region losing water as it is part of AP?<br /><br />We all know that Irrigation was completely neglected from decades.<br />There are numerous projects in Coastal andhra, rayalaseema and Telangana that were neglected.<br /><br />Please dont just oppose the views just for opposing sakechandunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-44422336561028427502010-02-24T10:40:16.292+05:302010-02-24T10:40:16.292+05:30All these english news channel cater to only a min...All these english news channel cater to only a minor section of soceit, the uper middle-class urban people.Who may not be even 10% of the population.chomskyisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150420021296971113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-89537528256949410482010-02-24T10:20:19.344+05:302010-02-24T10:20:19.344+05:30sravan said...
POK,
do you see that 9/10 telangan...sravan said... <br />POK,<br />do you see that 9/10 telangana districts are identified as backward regions?<br /><br />My friend, the three parameters are not enough to define backwardness. This scheme is only for certain parametsr and all 3 parameters with equal weight.<br /><br />So for e.g., if any district has very few SCs but is backward otherwise, it will not figure in the list.<br /><br />Srikakulam is the most backward district in AP by any count. I have not come across a single citizen who does not agree with this. Yet it does not fiure in the list.POKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-68529852255583255142010-02-24T09:00:37.013+05:302010-02-24T09:00:37.013+05:30Greenstat
I've read everything and un...Greenstat<br /> I've read everything and understand.I told you all umpteen number of times that I'm a Hyderabadi and a Telanganite.I know enough to ask people to remain calm and not to get carried by passions and let democratic process take its course.I know enough about how we have lost precious lives of Dastagiris,Chandraihs, tens of 12-13 year olds in Umdanagar Railway station,Venugopals and Yadagiris.That is enough...Let the youth enjoy life. You should have understood by now what I'm trying to say.We have fought enough to earn the liberation of Hyderabad state.Let's be thankful,Hyderabad didn't go to Pakistan.Regarding backwardness and underdevelopment,the whole of erstwhile Hyderabad state is the same.If backwardness was a parameter lets integrate whole of Hyderabad state again .Let us get innovate to devise ways in which Telangana could be developed.Even if expend 1/4 of energy we are putting into this agitation we can secure a bright future.Stop this railing and grudge against people from other regions.As a Hyderabadi I learnt how to live as a cosmopolitian Indian and be friendly with 'settlers'.I'm proud of how people all over the world appreciate the city.If you think this amazing fabric woven by millions of people called Hyderabad can be tarnished by a few selfish politicians I know how to raise my voice.........Hey how knows I might be the first Telanganite to resist the attempts to disturb my city.Hey every great movement has a beginning..deccaninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-77138651708772004262010-02-24T06:21:09.613+05:302010-02-24T06:21:09.613+05:30@deccani
I am not sure what you are trying to say...@deccani<br /><br />I am not sure what you are trying to say, but first answer me one question.<br /><br />Have you read about Andhra, Hyderabad State merger, agreements, 1969 and 1972 agitation, GO610, Girglaini commission report. Have you read 'Case for Telangana' in this blog?<br /><br />First read our case and question us if you have any questions. We explained this to many and many new readers here like you, and now I do not have energy to explain you again.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-61409445826224463182010-02-24T06:05:45.079+05:302010-02-24T06:05:45.079+05:30hey Sujai
You've deleted my post as y...hey Sujai<br /> You've deleted my post as you could not answer my provoking questions.Telangana is not a trademark of few people.Please do your homework and appreciate how hard our ancestors have fought to give Hyderabad the status it has right now.REad about Narayana Rao Pawar,Swami Ramananda Thirtha,Shoibullah Khan,Pt Narendra ,Dasarathi and scores of others who sacrificed livelihood and live for Hyderabad Integration.Those where the times when there were atrocities against women,home burnings,forcible conversions and tyranny.The people who fought Nizam are not just Telanganites,but Andhras,Kannadigas,Marathas,North Indians,Communists and even liberal Muslims.Therefore Telangana is not property of few insecure folks.<br /> Now the new crop of intellectuals who feel that this Telangana movement is akin to freedom struggle should realize how hard those times were and really what freedom is.Are you deprived of education when you want to study? If you say Telangana is underdeveloped compare it with those Nizam times when people were made illiterate on purpose and if there was any education it was in Urdu medium which was of no use outside of the state.When Hyderabad was burning Nizam with his 16 wifes gave a grand party of Roosevelt in Delhi.Can you even compare those days with the present.How can you say the lives of the people are the same?There are opportunities that are not being utilized.One of the reasons being the presence of omnipotent 'doras' who wantonly grabbed the properties from the rural folks and collected their precious lives as collateral.<br /> Telangana has nurtured many bright intellectuals who strove from nowhere.Burra Venkatesam one of the brightest IAS officers we have now is one of them.He studied in Ambedkar college,considered one of the 'flirtiest' and debauched colleges in Hyderabad and secured top All-India rank,he is from Nalgonda.Would he have been an IAS is there were no opportunities in Telangana ? Opportunities exist only for those who grab them,they just doesn't shine on you because you are from Andhra.I was educated in Osmania University,leave me from the picture considering I hail from <br />Hyderabad/RR district.I'm proud to say I've seen so many Civil servants Central and state services who hail from interior Telangana districts not having been to Hyderabad in their undergraduate life.Would it have been without opportunities that were presented in Andhra Pradesh?<br /> Telangana is underdeveloped,fine but so are Hyderabad-Karnataka and Manmad/Aurangabad regions.Let them fight for integration with Telangana.If Telangana were to be a separate state then Gulbarga/Bidar should be separate and Aurangabad should be separate.Please focus on ways to alleviate Telangana people instead of finding new ways of insane and devious protests like carving on stone and human chains wasting everybody's time and energy.Our ancestors have done enough to liberate Hyderabad from Nizam let's enjoy that instead of inducing insularity in the minds of youth and students and launching them into unsheltered violence.For well educated people like you,Telangana rightnow is a puerile thrill that quenches your vicarious adventurism that takes pride in changing the name of Andhra Bank to Telangana Bank and asking people to boycott Andhra goods and services, our young friends and students are mislead,they feel that Telangana state formation would open-up endless cache of treasure that's begging to come to limelight.And that my friends is a senseless dream that is sold to millions of folks,of course at a premium , senseless violence and pointless hatred.There is no panacea for anything .Let's identify issues besetting the region and come up with a solutions and if the only remedy is statehood,let's present it and then ask people and rulers.But before that people no hatred or ill-feelings.deccaninoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-60311424496702928452010-02-24T02:39:21.311+05:302010-02-24T02:39:21.311+05:30@Reality
" Telangana state never existed. Hy...@Reality<br /><br />" Telangana state never existed. Hyderabad state existed prior to 1956. Go and read history ,you moron. "<br /><br /><br />For god's sake common now !!!! Why do you comfort yourself to the extent that you make yourself look like a fool ?<br /><br />Telangana was a separate state in the name of Hyderabad state from 1948 to 1956 with additional areas that are now part of Maharashtra, Tamilnadu and Karnataka.<br /><br />U seem to lack history knowledge among the long list of things that u already dont know to even consider having a decent discussion.Sudhakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-79874022141986019362010-02-24T00:06:11.183+05:302010-02-24T00:06:11.183+05:30Hello Sujai,
This is one of the great post i have ...Hello Sujai,<br />This is one of the great post i have ever seen.!!!<br />You forward it to IBN live so that they will remove this foolish journalist.<br />I request you to continue your great work.<br />You are one of the best journalist...<br />Bye byeDr. Gullapallihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10258981951359422885noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-82166744880025205452010-02-23T22:51:32.417+05:302010-02-23T22:51:32.417+05:30Hi Sujai,
Thank you so much for writing this rebut...Hi Sujai,<br />Thank you so much for writing this rebuttal on the stupid-ass Ali. You have given voice to so many things that many including me felt while reading his inane assinine idiotic foolish garbage of an article. Kudos to your patience as well, with the endless supply of stupid people posing as intellectuals/experts, especially on something they don't have the slightest clue about. I can respect someone who is against Telangana and come up with some smart reasons, but idiots like these are just a drag on everyone's time. Really, I dread to think of IBN's future if this is what they have got for journalists.<br />-- Telangitelanginoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-11580905906460410352010-02-23T21:58:02.486+05:302010-02-23T21:58:02.486+05:30PLANNING COMMISSION - GOVERNMENT OF INIDA, REPORT ...PLANNING COMMISSION - GOVERNMENT OF INIDA, REPORT ON ANDHRA PRADESH<br /><br />In recent years the plan allocations to the priority sectors such as agriculture, irrigation have been declining from plan to plan. Irrigation sector was neglected during 8th and 9th plan periods. Earlier, governments have made adequate allocations for irrigational projects like Nagarjuna Sagar, Srisailam, 420 TMCs (390 TMCs) Pochampad (90 TMCs) (SRSP) major irrigation projects. These allocations have created assured irrigational facilities to Coastal Andhra leaving Rayalaseema and Telangana regions. This also caused in regional imbalances in the state.<br /><br />The increase of electricity charges and gradual withdrawal of subsidies to agricultural sector also increased cost of cultivation unremunerative cultivation. This has led to unrest among the farmers resulting suicide deaths especially in Telangana region.<br /><br />The suicide deaths of handloom weavers have become a common feature in Telangana region.<br /><br />Literacy rate is relatively high in Coastal Andhra followed by Rayalaseema and Telangana.<br /><br />More than 75 percent of canal irrigation in the state is available to Coastal Andhra followed by 17 percent in Telangana 7.5 percent in Rayalaseema. Agricultural development in Telangana and Rayalaseema was neglected. As a result borewell and dugwell irrigation increased significantly. As a result, there was depletion of water table in Telangana and Rayalaseema regions.<br /><br />The state is experiencing deceleration of growth rate of agricultural sector and decline of employment in rural areas resulting in exodus of masses to urban areas, particularly from backward districts like Mahabubnagar, Medak, Nalgonda, Warangal, Ananthapur, Chittoor and Vizianagaram. Institutional finance to the agricultural sector has declined and the role of money lenders private finances is still dominant particularly in Telangana and Rayalaseema regions.<br /><br />labour households in Telangana and Rayalaseema get very less non-farm employment compared to Coastal Andhra. It is because of backward agriculture and recurring drought conditions.<br /><br />The whole situation, we can say that during the last five decades, Telangana and Rayalaseema regions were neglected on irrigation front as a result, agricultural development suffered while Coastal districts have been reaping the benefits of canal irrigation.<br /><br />There was state assurance of minimum support price for paddy. This has mostly benefited the big farmers from Coastal Andhra.<br /><br />Drought prone districts like Mahabubnagar in Telangana, Ananthapur district in Rayalaseema and Vizianagaram district in Coastal Andhra still remain far behind the developed districts in respect of income, employment and living conditions.<br /><br /><br /><br />Source: http://planningcommission.nic.in/reports/sereport/ser/std_pattrnAP.pdfకిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-19405804474945965972010-02-23T21:41:05.754+05:302010-02-23T21:41:05.754+05:30Reality,
You do not see the picture clearly.
loo...Reality,<br /> You do not see the picture clearly.<br /> look from andhra perspective.<br />It is certainly a demerger.<br />And looks like you turned very emotional. Not at all good for you.sravanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08870220615305693426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-24659327038235561282010-02-23T20:58:44.799+05:302010-02-23T20:58:44.799+05:30@ SUDHAKAR
Telangana state never existed. Hyderab...@ SUDHAKAR<br /><br />Telangana state never existed. Hyderabad state existed prior to 1956. Go and read history ,you moron.Realityhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01435214069603839727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-21476180673066140712010-02-23T20:38:22.907+05:302010-02-23T20:38:22.907+05:30Like saying, if you remove Gandhi, then the Indian...<i>Like saying, if you remove Gandhi, then the Indian Independence movement is non-violent.</i><br /><br />in the previous comment should have been-<br /><br />Like saying, if you remove Gandhi, then the Indian Independence movement is violent.Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-82344771248836151652010-02-23T20:36:50.123+05:302010-02-23T20:36:50.123+05:30MIM:
If you "remove" MIM from the pictu...MIM:<br /><br /><i>If you "remove" MIM from the picture, there will be ZERO muslim representatives in AP assembly.</i><br /><br />You are taking it literally. I didn’t mean what you inferred. It’s a figure of speech. Like saying, if you remove Gandhi, then the Indian Independence movement is non-violent. By saying that I don’t mean we should actually remove Gandhi from the picture. It doesn’t mean that I am opposing Gandhi. It doesn’t mean I support violent movements. It means that the non-violent movement can be credited to Gandhi so much that without him it would have been violent. <br /><br /><i>The one respected muslim journalist that dares to question the motives of Telangana leadership gets lambasted with humiliating phrases like "take your head out of ass"</i><br /><br />Sorry that you think like that. When I wrote of Ali, I didn’t think of him as a respected Muslim journalist. I thought of him as ANY journalist without ascribing to his religious background. I think that you are being a bit peevish on this like most of India. <br /><br />I expect journalists, lawyers, bankers, miners, etc to perform their duties of their jobs irrespective of their religious affiliation. I don’t want to bring Ali’s religion into the picture unless he has clearly mentioned in the article he is writing as a Muslim. <br /><br />I will be addressing the stand of MIM and Hyderabadi Muslims in one of the later posts.Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-70532072003579248302010-02-23T20:30:37.884+05:302010-02-23T20:30:37.884+05:30@ MR.Reality
Telangana state formation cannot be ...@ MR.Reality<br /><br />Telangana state formation cannot be categorized under a new state. It is nothing more than a DEMERGER...it was a state already before its unfortunate merger with ur state, U DIMWIT !!!Sudhakarnoreply@blogger.com