tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post8943040732735205030..comments2024-03-27T13:09:26.512+05:30Comments on E=mc^2: Telangana 72: Unite or PerishSujaihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-88845588056632109122011-07-14T22:17:24.480+05:302011-07-14T22:17:24.480+05:30A country/state without proper leadership => No...A country/state without proper leadership => No strong growth policies => high % of Illiteracy + population growth => poverty + lack of ethics + mob culture => weak-minded people + hereditary politics => marketing of regionalism => an induced sense of oppression/non-belonging tend to give => a regional desire for the need of independent state => a struggle for independent state => independent state => proper leadership? => Strong growth policies? => Less poverty/illiteracy/improved ethics? => Another regionalism?<br />When the (Telangana) people did not fight (alleged/proved) injustice by leadership in their own (Andhra Pradesh) state, I suspect it is highly unlikely they will fight injustice by leadership in their own (Telangana) state. Ultimate winner => politician (any region). Ultimate looser => people (any region).<br />Two ways of fighting injustice <br />=> option (1) Direct way: People standing against injustice and fighting for it and finally getting justice on AP (complete)resources [E.g.:- Like the African Americans – who fought oppression and finally went on to get the highest post - President of USA. They earned their self-respect.]<br /><br />=> option (2) Indirect way: People requesting for separation and fighting for it and finally getting separated and getting justice on T-region(partial)resources. [Eg:- People of Telangana -> I say we tried option one, but gave up on option one. Why giving up?] <br />[Giving up on option one - either shows “a general lack of true resolve to fight injustice directly in leadership and people” or “shows that there is no concrete proof for alleged injustice”. Is there a third reason?]<br /><br />(Note considering option one: - Politicians of Telangana never resigned collectively for atleast one injustice done to Telangana [say the alleged mismanagement of Telangana region] in the past. Never did they voice collectively and brought it to Indian government centre’s table or Supreme Court. Why so?]IndiaGlobeRankernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-45434721139065732422011-01-11T02:21:30.740+05:302011-01-11T02:21:30.740+05:30Science and physics does not depend on statistics....<i>Science and physics does not depend on statistics. </i><br />Great quote from born-intelligent engineer.<br />Irrational arguments from (sel-declared) rational thinker are no surprise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-34179042135802226272011-01-10T01:58:37.259+05:302011-01-10T01:58:37.259+05:30"Science and physics does not depend on stati..."Science and physics does not depend on statistics. "<br />Quantum mechanics,thermodynamics,mechanics,and of that matter all the major discoveries in science are as results of statistics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-53236071449521171592011-01-08T21:27:16.417+05:302011-01-08T21:27:16.417+05:30satya:
You can.satya:<br />You can.Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-77615240965615519422011-01-08T21:10:50.934+05:302011-01-08T21:10:50.934+05:30Anna Sujai.. I want to make it pamplet with my cos...Anna Sujai.. I want to make it pamplet with my cost and courtesy :Sujai Blog.<br /><br />thanks<br />satyasatya rapellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09421563475773754682noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-60421498473263804622011-01-08T01:27:19.088+05:302011-01-08T01:27:19.088+05:30http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_it-s-riot-pol...http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report_it-s-riot-police-versus-people-on-telangana-streets-again_1491738<br /><br />The situation is no different in Kakatiya University in Warangal and other campuses in the region. “It is building by the day. I don’t think the government would be able to keep things under control for long. The deployment of central forces in Telangana districts in the name of maintaining law and order is actually instigating trouble. People, particularly students, are getting provoked by seeing police in riot gear,” professor Vijay Kumar of Kakatiya University said.<br /><br />Police have deployed new weaponry to suppress the agitating students. While new tear gas granite, which would explode after hitting the ground spreading the smoke, is being used and hundreds of these shells are being fired, the police are also using new guns. <br /><br />“We are using a different gun this time. Instead of bullets, we use pellets in this. These are metal pellets but they would only injure and not kill a target,” DGP K Aravinda Rao said.<br /><br />On Friday, the police fired tear gas shells seriously injuring two students.<br /><br />“The police got into the ambulances used to shift students to hospitals and beat them up. The BSF and CISF deployed on the campus are behaving brutally,” Mahender, an OU JAC leader, said.Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-14430317460683423342011-01-07T20:42:39.267+05:302011-01-07T20:42:39.267+05:30>>And they clearly mention that the number i...>>And they clearly mention that the number is from "different reports" <br /><br />Dont say 'different reports' are from Seemandra.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-45452505211949628562011-01-07T19:49:19.775+05:302011-01-07T19:49:19.775+05:30@Sujai
//The same newspapers gave awards to Ramal...@Sujai<br /><br />//The same newspapers gave awards to Ramalinga Raju of Satyam and gave excellent ratings to his company - by looking at his fudged numbers.<br /><br />What makes you think that we trust the numbers given by Srikrishna Committee?//<br /><br />Come on dude.You are better than this. Ramalingaraju cooked up numbers coz he is the CEO of the company. SKC's report mentions sources of almost all data he took.<br />The numbers are not his. He is only the messenger, and data analyst.<br /><br />One of the very few items of data is the number of distressed suicides. And they clearly mention that the number is from "different reports" and hence is not from a Govt. data collection agency.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-64958304204646438132011-01-07T17:10:58.873+05:302011-01-07T17:10:58.873+05:30There was not ONE reporter or a news van,any where...There was not ONE reporter or a news van,any where near the campus....<br /><br />One would expect atleast a few news vans,after a glaring incident like that...<br /><br />Several groups of paramilitary forces welcomed the public,near the entrance....which was itself quite a sight.<br /><br />The area was cordoned off,and only a few students were found hanging around in sporadic numbers...<br /><br />The only thing that could testify that an incident might have occurred,were a couple of pieces of broken glass windows....and shattered hopes.<br /><br />I guess all the reporters and journalists had better things to do...Lavanyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10510680315514604650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-70426731026716541712011-01-07T16:48:35.124+05:302011-01-07T16:48:35.124+05:30I think we should be writing a report on the SKC b...I think we should be writing a report on the SKC bloopers....<br /><br />Feel free to contribute..Lavanyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10510680315514604650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-23850784844425145482011-01-07T16:46:26.816+05:302011-01-07T16:46:26.816+05:30My visit to the OU campus yesterday,taught me the ...My visit to the OU campus yesterday,taught me the difference between a good journalist and a fake one.....<br /><br />A few bloopers found from the report by a couple of friends....<br /><br />http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs009.ash2/33793_10150131561874073_774799072_7774771_997619_n.jpg<br /><br />http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhridayam.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F01%2Finjustice-srikrishna2.jpg&h=325e5<br /><br />And there is more....<br /><br />Did they get paid for THIS....Lavanyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10510680315514604650noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-66780578530884855292011-01-07T16:30:32.677+05:302011-01-07T16:30:32.677+05:30Aravind:
If every statistic is lie and numbers do...Aravind:<br /><br /><i>If every statistic is lie and numbers dont mean anything, all the science and physics is wrong.</i><br /><br />Science and physics does not depend on statistics. Also, in Science the data is available to everyone and each researcher can use that data and independently draw conclusions. In this case, certain information was withheld from Telangana activists, certain data was removed from government websites, and certain information is inconsistent. <br /><br /><i> SKC used information from central statistical orgs that say you are an Indian and you live in India etc... </i><br /><br />Most of the information was given by Government of Andhra Pradesh. And we don’t trust that information. <br /><br /><i> what you believe is correct and govt has to make decisions based on what YOU think, otherwise you discredit them with fallacious arguments.</i><br /><br />Look, nobody asked for this committee or its report in the first place. Like what happened to all others states we only asked for the constitutional procedure prescribed by Indian Constitution – which is to table the bill in the Parliament. Instead of doing what is prescribed, why unnecessary get into this report business?Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-91112587643018308532011-01-07T16:17:20.504+05:302011-01-07T16:17:20.504+05:30Peacelover:
if you get a chance, please read:
htt...Peacelover:<br /><br />if you get a chance, please read:<br />http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/telangana-63-is-movement-nonviolent.html<br /><br />Telangana 63 on this blog.Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-24621627431829007292011-01-07T16:10:26.678+05:302011-01-07T16:10:26.678+05:30We will do what Gandhi. He also had a well polishe...<i>We will do what Gandhi. He also had a well polished machine to take on British Empire. He coordinated his agitations. British could not crush him. We are hoping that Indian government will be less brutal than British Empire.</i><br /><br />I really appreciate your Gandhigiri. Just before I read your post, I read this news article: http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/Hyderabad/article1053363.ece<br /><br />So now you know why my thinking is devious?Peacelovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-2928682413413245742011-01-07T15:55:33.957+05:302011-01-07T15:55:33.957+05:30But the other five were added on the recommendatio...<b>But the other five were added on the recommendation of the home ministry to include extremist affected distrcits also under the scheme </b><br /><br />As of I remember from long back news article, there are four naxal effected districts in Telangana identified by govt. and four other from Seemandra.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-54870314092766103112011-01-07T15:48:21.434+05:302011-01-07T15:48:21.434+05:30Peacelover:
The Indian law enforcing agencies ha...Peacelover:<br /><br /><i><br />The Indian law enforcing agencies have also developed over the last 15 years. They are very well trained in dealing with mobs. </i><br /><br />Who talked about mobs. Why is your thinking devious?<br /><br />We will do what Gandhi. He also had a well polished machine to take on British Empire. He coordinated his agitations. British could not crush him. We are hoping that Indian government will be less brutal than British Empire.Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-70798490291826175492011-01-07T15:48:07.915+05:302011-01-07T15:48:07.915+05:30Green star
My mistake. That is page number 80 of ...Green star<br /><br />My mistake. That is page number 80 of the report.<br />(in pdf it will be page 122)POKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-17862393242605230242011-01-07T15:45:08.158+05:302011-01-07T15:45:08.158+05:30This time around we are prepared for a long battle...<i>This time around we are prepared for a long battle. This time we are not uncoordinated. This time we are a polished machine. This time around the state will not be able to crush us. We had nearly 15 years to prepare for this.<br /></i><br />The Indian law enforcing agencies have also developed over the last 15 years. They are very well trained in dealing with mobs.Peacelovernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-42855052966976707172011-01-07T15:44:53.673+05:302011-01-07T15:44:53.673+05:30Green Star,
SKC says that as per the BRGF guideli...Green Star,<br /><br />SKC says that as per the BRGF guidelines for backwardness only 4 distrcits were included. But the other five were added on the recommendation of the home ministry to include extremist affected distrcits also under the schemePOKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-7341587571018630022011-01-07T15:41:32.828+05:302011-01-07T15:41:32.828+05:30SKC did not say that only 5 distrcits are Backward...<b>SKC did not say that only 5 distrcits are Backward under BGRF.</b><br /><br />I am sorry, I fail to understand what exactly he wants to say in page 122 of the report.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-71050499616178843642011-01-07T15:34:04.700+05:302011-01-07T15:34:04.700+05:30Green Star,
SKC did not say that only 5 distrcits...Green Star,<br /><br />SKC did not say that only 5 distrcits are Backward under BGRF.<br /><br />Pl see page 122 of the report:<br />"Another factor considered as a special case is the presence of left wing<br />extremism. For example, five districts in Andhra Pradesh namely Nizamabad,<br />Karimnagar, Medak, Khammam and Nalgonda, which are all from Telangana<br />region are included in the RSVY on the recommendation of the Ministry of Home<br />Affairs. These left wing affected districts constitute 46 % population of Telangana<br />(including Hyderabad) and about 19 % of the population of Andhra Pradesh. On<br />the basis of other backwardness characteristics, four districts from Telangana,<br />three from Rayalaseema and one from coastal Andhra are listed under BRGF. The<br />BRGF population covered due to backwardness works out to be 41% (including<br />Hyderabad) in Telangana, 74% in Rayalaseema and only 7% in coastal Andhra.<br />Of the total 87% population covered by BRGF in Telangana, 46 % is covered<br />under extremist affected districts selection criteria. Thus, a large percentage of<br />population from Rayalaseema, relatively smaller percentage from Telangana and<br />very small percentage from coastal Andhra were backward as per the BRGF<br />backwardness identification criteria. Hence, the argument extended by some<br />political parties and civil society groups from Telangana region does not get<br />support from this analysis of the BRGF."POKnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-65917402760812272652011-01-07T15:06:05.881+05:302011-01-07T15:06:05.881+05:30if srikrishna committe finds that telangana is bac...<b>if srikrishna committe finds that telangana is backward..and there was a premedidated attempt by seemandhra leaders/people to depreive telangana their legitamate share</b><br /><br />That means central govt is not doing there job right. As per there BRGF site, nine out of ten districts in TG are backward, and 4(?) from Seemandra. But SKC says different from it. You believe only SKC report because it suits your argument.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-75326686629047019642011-01-07T15:03:27.745+05:302011-01-07T15:03:27.745+05:30That's the trend with successive Indian govt- ...<b>That's the trend with successive Indian govt- be it congress or bjp. they are afraid of taking decisions.</b><br /><br />well, if that is true, it is a million dollar question to me why these govts dont afraid to TG people? <br /><br /><b>i'm afraid that govt. will do nothing except option 6. </b><br />I wonder why would Seemandras accept for this when they only rejected such panel in 1960s and eventually removed it by 1972. By the way it was also mentioned in SKC report, hope you read it.కిరణ్ కుమార్ కేhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01054084645595458895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-16952576228281154612011-01-07T15:00:09.827+05:302011-01-07T15:00:09.827+05:30UnitedIndian:
i'm afraid that govt. will do n...UnitedIndian:<br /><br /><i>i'm afraid that govt. will do nothing except option 6.</i><br /><br />You are an astrologer or horoscope reader or vaastu expert? We debunk all those on this blog. <br /><br /><i>India's attitude is "nothing ever happens", "sab chalta hai". at least the politician believes that's what the people believe.</i><br /><br />And yet in the same India, Potti Sriramulu fasted and got Andhra State, Gujarat became a state out of Bombay State, Chattisgarh, Jharkhand and Uttararkhand are now separate states. <br /><br /><i>Delhi people will sit on their ass and hope this issue will run out of steam sooner or later</i><br /><br />Something which has not lost steam in 54 years, will not lost out of steam anytime sooner or later. <br /><br /><i>3."...let time heal the wounds..."(THAT'S EXACTLY I THINK WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN) </i><br /><br />Time will not heal these wounds, it will make the injury become infectious spreading to the whole body.Sujaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16539694685428659940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21825668.post-73305037008303874632011-01-07T14:33:03.219+05:302011-01-07T14:33:03.219+05:30Sujai,
Shouldn't the aspirations of the triba...Sujai,<br /><br />Shouldn't the aspirations of the tribals be considered?<br />Shouldn't the aspirations of the muslims be considered?<br /><br />"<br />The Committee observed:-<br /> The aspirations of a large section of tribals on the northern side of Telangana, particularly the hill tribals, are for a separate state of Manayaseema and of the tribal belt which cuts across Orissa,Chhattisgarh, Andhra Pradesh and Maharashtra, to be under a single administrative system;<br /> The SCs/BCs and the minorities have their own aspirations for<br />appropriate political space, economic development and reservation benefits.POKnoreply@blogger.com