Thursday, August 26, 2010

Telangana 59: Why do we accept Telugu movies?

Why do Telangana people accept Telugu movies if almost all the movies show Telangana people in negative light? 

One Andhra commenter asked:

Tell us what is the primary, if not the only, motive of a movie-producer? Making money or not? If a producer is dumb enough to make a movie showing discrimination, wouldn't his Nizam area collections tell him to correct his ways in the next movies?

Andhras reason this quite simplistically.  They reason that a movie producer is interested in making money and nothing else.  The producer is not sitting there to insinuate a message that Telanganas are inferior.  There is no benefit for the producer doing that negative characterization because he will tend to lose certain portion of the audience.  

Andhras ask if indeed there is a negative characterization of Telanganas in the movies, why do Telangana people go and watch these movies? They could have easily exercised their right not to watch these movies, right?

Since the collection from Telangana is quite substantial, isn’t it clear that people of Telangana gladly welcome these movies?  Since they welcome these movies, isn’t it clear that there is absolutely no negative characterization of Telangana people in these movies?



I think that’s a simplistic way of looking at complex things such as a group discrimination.  We can easily say that the motive of a publisher is only to make money, yet many written words have created revolutions, bringing great changes for good or worse, toppling governments and changing regimes.  Many publishers have been prosecuted for what they have published. If the motive was simply to make money, why would the publisher risk being prosecuted? Doesn’t make sense, does it?


When the producers make movies showing Telangana people in the negative light, they are not being dumb.  In fact, they are being smart; they are catering to the prejudices of people, pandering to their biases, thereby legitimizing them, perpetuating them, and over a period of time institutionalizing them.   Take a look at the history of Hollywood and associated themes on negative portrayals of Blacks and other ethnic groups. One can feed into one’s prejudices and still make money. Even the group which is being targeted may not realize it is being targeted and happily watches the movies.


When a lower caste person in a village is called ‘chamar’, he does not realize it is an insult because he is used to being called that all his life. A lower class person may not know he is being discriminated against unless he is enlightened.  For many centuries, our lower castes thought that it was their fate to carry upper caste shit on their head. Only very recently, they have started to assert themselves.


For a very long time Telangana people were ashamed to speak Telangana in front of others, and the practice continues even now though it is declining. Many Telangana people hide their accent when heard in public forums.  In some families, Telangana people ridicule their own folk who speak Telangana and try to correct them.  Some Telangana families grew up imitating their Andhra neighbors completely rejecting their identity. They hate being associated with the tag of Telangana. They take pride in the new found Andhra language which is seen as an ‘improved’ version.


The negative portrayal of Telanganas has created a low opinion of Telanganas amongst their own people. It’s like dark colored person feeling inferior and not feeling anything wrong with the negative portrayal in movies. They try their best to get rid of that dark color instead of fighting the negative portrayal.  It doesn’t occur to them that a dark colored person is being humiliated or insulted.  They have experienced it for so long that they have accepted it as a norm.  Being ridiculed for their ‘inferior’ language, which has been ‘bastardized’ by Urdu, is something Telanganas accept without questioning the practice. Indians accepted British rule for nearly two hundred years till some enlightened Indians came along and told them they could aspire for something higher and better -freedom and self-rule.


Something similar is happening in Telangana now. Telanganas are not getting ‘brainwashed’ as some Andhras allege.  They are getting enlightened.   They are realizing that they don’t have to feel inferior anymore.  Telanganas are no longer ready to cow down and change their accents.  They proudly speak it in front of others and nowadays it is even being considered cool amongst the new generations.  The time has come for Telangana to assert itself.  But it is a long journey to enlighten your own people, the way it was a long journey to tell Indians they can rule themselves, or to tell our lower caste they can enter a temple with pride.  It takes time.  But it is a one way street. Once the idea is inseminated, it is a powerful one.  Nothing can stop it.  And that’s what we are witnessing now in Telangana -an awakening. 

But unfortunately, it is not always articulated properly by the masses.  Poor articulation is not a good reason for discrediting a movement.  Andhras have to concede that Telanganas are not ready to be cajoled into another farcical arrangement because the rejection comes from deep within and is more complex than how Andhras would like to believe.  Writing it away as an artificial creation of few petty politicians doesn’t help.  Discrediting it as a pastime of few unemployed youth adds to the insult. If we have to debate this issue, we have to set aside such simplistic arguments and see the problem in the eye, which I doubt many Andhras are ready to.

63 comments:

  1. Sujai,
    Nice one anna..
    The andhra people who are not ready to accept how powerful the telangane movement
    will always pass such lighter remarks as they don't have the balls to imagine that
    a revolution like this is happening.
    Yeah you are true...telangana people are proud to talk in the native dialect rather than
    imitating so called sohpisticated teta telugu...

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  2. Ha ha ha..in the same way many of us(including Andhra, telangana and rayalseema people) speak english with a mixture of telugu or hindi or some other words..5 yrs from now..one can start a moment and say...we people might not feel inferior when speaking to our clients or to customers..every one are free to speak telugusized version english. what understandingaaaa? haha..its not degrading people who speak in a dialect..telangana people make fun of andhra people who dont know telangana words or who cant understand hindi words.. in the same way..andhra people make fun of those who dont understand the words they use regularly...its between person to person and not a mass issue...if one want to point out...one can say that...many people are migrating from andhra to telangana..and many are suffering from cold..due to their sneezing and coughing..all the telangana people are effected...comparisions can be made by everyone..some sound good to the person who write it..some sound good to the person who read it..wish all your dreams come true..Have a nice day.... :)

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  3. @sujai
    em manishiviraa nuvvu
    puttina deshamlo oka rashtranni (kashmir) vere desam cheyyalani antaav
    puttina rashtramlo padi jillalalni vere cheyyalani antaav
    puttina mathanni tidataav.asalu nuvvu manishiva mundamopiva
    nee amma ninnu sarigga pencaleda?
    values nerpinchaleda?chetta kundilo padisenda?

    ayina oka software companylo pani chestaav.Nit warangal lanti pedda institute lo chadivaav.inka emi takkauva ayindira neeku,eppudo edo okati antu untaav.neeku nijamga samajam meeda antha sanubhuthe unte nee asthi mothham danam cheseyi pedalakai

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  4. 'Something similar is happening in Telangana now'.

    The way you compare Telangana agitation to Independence movement shows your understanding of the real issue. I wonder why the main reason for separate state has changed from underdevelopment to self-rule and self-respect. It's not rocket science to understand that the number don't support your demand.

    Anyway, if self-rule and self-respect is so important to you and you truly believe it's needed, why don't you quit your job/business and actively participate in the movement?

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  5. i totally agree with you, sujai. The same thing happens in kannada movies. The person who speaks the north karnataka's kannada-dialect is usually a side-kick or a villain. I have hardly seen a movie where the lead character speaks it. The depressing part is that people are fine with it.

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  6. @murthy..& @sujai...

    Sir if we are speaking only about discrimination based on speaking of a language...then every one shall feel the same ...Every brahmin shall feel that he is being discriminated by showing every brahmin in a funny way in all the movies some movies also show that they eat meat...its not about brahmins eat meat or they dont...but the persons who dont feel that the entire brahmin community is being discrimated and no one is raising their voice against it...where as if a muslim is shown in the same way..you see agitations going on .. Movie is meant to be a movie..it depends on how you watch it and take it..Its our mind that needs to change...when a westerner shows the slums and people in india in a movie called slum dog millionaire...every one should appreciate it...but when an indian shoots the same film there will be agitations saying that...all teh lower caste people are being discriminated by upper caste people.. If one really wants to see a change..it should be the change in which we look into things..the perspective should change..first we should change in the way we take movies fro granted as what ever they show is TRUE..and then if possible educate people who think that if something wrong is shown in a movie about their caste, language, dialect...it doesnt impact anything in the real world...

    please dont bring movies or celebrities or actors into comparision for anything in our daily life...Its like saying that if you make horror movies, you are creating fear in people so I demand to stop making horror movies..

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  7. "When the producers make movies showing Telangana people in the negative light, they are not being dumb. In fact, they are being smart; they are catering to the prejudices of people, pandering to their biases, thereby legitimizing them, perpetuating them, and over a period of time institutionalizing them. Take a look at the history of Hollywood and associated themes on negative portrayals of Blacks and other ethnic groups. One can feed into one’s prejudices and still make money. Even the group which is being targeted may not realize it is being targeted and happily watches the movies."

    You are mostly correct in saying that movie industry is cashing on stereotyping and there by perpetuating biases. But, in most cases, there is no ulterior motive other than making money. They cater to the most simplistic view of the world. They definitely are not the intellectual types you portray them as. In most cases, they are ignorant of any harm they could be causing. On the other hand, Prof Jayashankar, Prof Kodandaram Reddy et al are the evil intellectual types you described at great lengths. Creating fun at the expense of others, stereotyping etc is present at many levels, all over India. In any case, the solution is not to attack movie makers or Andhras or a business man who is selling fairness cream. We as a society have to introspect and evolve. And develop some sense of humor too.
    And how will separate T help? There would still be similar movies and all the people of AP will pay money and watch not knowing if they harm them in any way. That is unless some Kavitakka forces a blanket ban based on her perceptions.

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  8. Daffy:

    Sir if we are speaking only about discrimination based on speaking of a language...then every one shall feel the same ...

    We are NOT speaking only about discrimination based on speaking of a language. This is 59th article on Telangana on this blog.

    The case of Telangana does not hinge on discrimination based on language alone, though it is one of the essential ingredients.

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  9. Have you as a Hyderabadi talked in Urdu/Hindi to an north Indian? If you speak chaste Hindi/Urdu you are not one of us.A majority of Hyderabadis speak in a different accent that is 'funny' sounding to them.We are being ridiculed when we talk in Hindi to North Indian so much so that we don't talk in that language.What can we do,we laugh with them. It evokes laughter to them but to us it is normal.There were so many movies that were made starring or featuring Mahmood and several others ridiculing our accent.Did anybody say anything. So much so that Pakistani serials too ridicule our accent.Did you talk about that? Do we want to get out of India just for that?
    Hey its all in the mind,nobody just attaches importance to accents or slangs if that is the case nobody from India would have established themselves in the US with our pronunciation or our speech.Indians are ridiculed even by kids that have a hearty squeal at the way we talk.

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  10. hyderabadi:

    We are being ridiculed when we talk in Hindi to North Indian so much so that we don't talk in that language.

    Ridiculing the language of other person is a common theme across Indian subcontinent. It does not mean we have to put up with it. At the same such ridicule does not always entail group discrimination. North Indians and Hyderabadis do not compete for the same set of resources and opportunities and therefore such ridicule remains a ridicule, which most people can afford laugh it off.

    However, if such ridicule actually translates into large scale discrimination between the two groups, you have things to worry about.

    Hope you understand that ridicule of language by itself does not necessarily bring in discrimination between two groups. You have to see it in the context.

    For a long time many South Indians faced the brunt of North Indians ridicule but since we had most of our opportunities in the South while they had their opportunities in the North, we had space and time to compete with them. Nowadays many South Indian states are doing far better than North Indian states in many aspects.

    But you have to thank Tamils for that ;-)

    If not for English as India’s official language, we would have been completely overwhelmed by North Indians in the South.

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  11. "North Indians and Hyderabadis do not compete for the same set of resources and opportunities and therefore such ridicule remains a ridicule, which most people can afford laugh it off."
    It is wrong to say we don't compete for the same set of resources. We do compete for the IIT JEE, Civil services,Banks,Railway Recruitment Board,Public Sector companies and what not. Atleast now we have the opportunities in private sector,in 90s and before all the job opportunites were available mainly at an all India level. Didn't we face discrimination. Go around and visit the companies like ECIL,NFC,BHEL,Midhani,DRDL and research institutes like IICT,CCMB,NAtional Remote Sensing Agency and scores of other premier organisation and see how many north indians and non Telugus are working.The north Indians never learn Telugu or mingle with the local population nor their kids speak to other kids in Telugu.How about that? Till NTR's regime,we were identified in UP as Madrasis,the term I used to detest.
    South Indians were scared of going out in north Indian cities .
    "For a long time many South Indians faced the brunt of North Indians ridicule but since we had most of our opportunities in the South while they had their opportunities in the North, we had space and time to compete with them"
    There were never many opportunities for Southerns since most of the jobs were usurped by North Indians in any Central level organisations and services.But still we didn't feel as your write in the blogs since we feel are all Indians and opportunities are the same and that we need to compete more and more.
    It is just because of that spirit that Andhra Pradesh students be it IIT or Civil services are getting opportunities now.

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  12. Cause we are too tolerant of these andhras, we have to start demolishing tollywood and its scum.

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  13. Sujai,
    It’s not just Telangana dialect that’s been ridiculed in the Tollywood. All other dialects of Telugu are also being ridiculed equally. All the protagonists only speak the so called chaste Telugu even if the movie is based on a particular region. E.g, all the heroes speak their regular Telugu while the rest of the characters like Villians and Comedians speak the native Seema dialect in a factionism based movie. The case is worse with a movie based on Hyd\Telangana region. Except for Venu Madhav \ Shiva Reddy \ Rami Reddy \ Srihari and a bunch of ‘rowdy goons’, no one else speaks Telangana. Guess what’s the reason??

    Talking Telangana dialect fluently is not as easy as talking any other dialect of Telugu. Whoever attempts it, ends up with a crude imitation. Only native Telanganas can seamlessly switch over into their dialect. SP Balasubramanium in one of his shows recently accepted that it’s tough to talk\sing in 100% Telangana dialect for a non-Telanganaite. Most of the artists in the movie industry hail from non-Telangana region and they cannot effectively speak Telangana dialect with an excpeption to Tanikella Bharani (Who spent too many years in Hyderabad, Chikkadpally during his initial days). Even Kota Srinivasa Rao can’t 100% convincingly speak Telangana dialect. You got to look at the miserable failure of Srikanth and Chiranjeevi in ShankarDada series when they tried to speak Telangana dialect. 90% of the times they got unknowingly switched into their usual accent. Even the dialogue writers of the Telugu movies don’t hail from Telangana region. So they too can’t write convincing Telangana dialect dialogues. It looks like they forcefully include ‘gatla, gitla, avu malla” kinda of words in a sentence just to show that it’s Telangana dialect. I think it’s the inability of these non-natives, especially the Telugu movie protagonists, to seamlessly speak Telangana dialect as the main reason behind Telangana dialect being used only for comedian and villain characters. Most importantly these comedians, villains and the ‘rowdy goons’ are the native Telanganas in the industry who can effectively deliver their dialogues in their native dialect. Just watch ‘Kubusam’ movie of Srihari if you want to see a better Telangana dialect based movie (even in it, many characters failed to speak Telangana dialect effectively).

    PS:- Discrimination based on Telangana regionalism in the movie industry is in an altogether different way in the Tollywood industry. Industry insiders like Director Shankar and few others are already raising it and speaking about it in various forums.

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  14. Sujai,

    Your argument is not correct. None of your arguments for separate Telangana worked out and at last you attacked the film industry. Because of people like you.. many innocents are committing suicides. Have you ever spent your time in portraying the poor and shelter less in Telangana? Always you are concentrated for new state. Don't think that the new state will solve all your problems. I know you always have a cock and bull reply for my questions. Why did you filled your blog in English? Why can't you use some Urdu or Hindi words in between? You know the reason. The original Telugu is the language what we studied in our books from 1st to 10th standard.

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  15. telugu guy:

    None of your arguments for separate Telangana worked out and at last you attacked the film industry.

    Why do you think the arguments did not work out? It’s like saying none of the arguments of Indians did not work out against British. They may not have worked on British, but indeed they worked on Indians.

    Now, we are poised to attain separate Telangana. It’s an eventuality. While many did not believe that Telangana could be a possibility, some of us believed in it and sustained it. I am happy that it is now a mainstream idea. We have come a long way from being a sentiment of some to sentiment of so many.

    Have you ever spent your time in portraying the poor and shelter less in Telangana? Always you are concentrated for new state. Don't think that the new state will solve all your problems.

    What’s so glorious about portraying poor and shelter-less without solving the basic problem of freedom? When British ruled India did it make sense to portray poor and shelter-less or did it make sense to attain freedom first?

    First the freedoms, then you can go ahead with solving other problems. We don’t believe that the new state will solve all our problems. Did attaining freedom from British solve all our problems? Not really. And yet, we put our hearts into it to attain freedom hoping that our lives will be better than what they were under British. The same holds true for people of Telangana. They have to attain freedom first. Only then they can go about solving some of their problems.

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  16. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FD6EKLmLTs

    Dear T-Extremists,

    Now you are behaving as extremists, if you attack the public/private properties as a next step, you may be called terrorists. Please don't go to that situation. The current situation in AP is very sensitive. All Telangana people are well biased that their problems will be solved and they will see the golden age if the new state is formed. The Seemandhra people are worried about the Hyderabad and thinking, if the new state is formed, the T-politicians and people will not allow them to work/settle in Hyderabad, thus loosing their livelyhood.

    Of-course, every student who completes his/her degree looks over Hyderabad for livelihood. If the new state is formed, surely the Seemandhra students hardly finds the opportunities in Hyderabad. Till a new capital for Seemandhra is established, they may have to suffer. Since a developed nation US A is not allowing others to work in their country now, surely the T-people will not allow Seemandhra students to find opportunities in Hyderabad. The people finding opportunity in US haven't paid and contribution towards its development, whereas the people from Seemandhra have contributed towards the Hyderabad's deveopment.

    Expectation from Sri Krishna Committee: Certainly, there will be no solution which completely satisfies the Telangana and Seemandhra people. Some where both needs to compromise. This can be done very easily if KCR is dead/killed. Otherwise there we may have to see many innocent suicides.

    An appeal to Seemandhra People: It is very difficult to live with the people who are filled up with extreme feelings. If you stick with Samaikyandhra, the state will go back for 20 years in terms of development. Let them stay separate.

    An appeal to Telangana People: You all are decided for a separate state. I wish that should happen without any violence. At the same time please compromise on some aspects. Since you are sharing the capital till now with others, let that continue for at least next 10-20 years, by making Hyderabad as Union Territory. So, that you can develop a new city for your children. Either it may be Warangal or Karim Nagar. You will have two developed cities in future. Making Hyderabad as Union Territory and National Second Capital will solve the problems of both the regions. As a student think about the hopes and expectations of other students. None of the city in Seemandhra is as capable as Hyderabad now to establish any industry.

    Also my suggestion to all, is to kill all your politicians once the new states are formed, either you are an educated or not you should hold the gun for a good cause, then only the next generation will see the change. OH GANDHIJI! PLEASE EXCUSE ME FOR WRITING THE ABOVE IN THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU LIVED. BUT THERE IS NO OTHER GO FOR US. RIGHT NOW, ONLY THE "FEAR FOR DEATH" CAN KEEP THE MAN IN GOOD WAY.

    JAI HIND

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  17. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FD6EKLmLTs

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  18. Please check out my opinion using the below link:

    http://pavansudheer.blogspot.com/2010/08/andhra-pradesh-2010.html

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  19. Dear Sujai,

    Please delete my comment dated:

    August 28, 2010 6:24 PM including this one also.

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  20. I am sorry for the first two lines in my comment. Actually those were not intended to paste here.........

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  21. I think there have been enough attempts for debate and discussion by telengana people, the reason we failed to persuade them is that they are the oppressors and never in the history of mankind "the oppressed" gained victory through "dialogue".
    so its time for Action and violence is an effective tool. Kick one andhra ass and it will scare away 10 andhras.
    So friends start the revolution.

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  22. @aditya,

    I am sure you know that the average Telanganite has never been really violent. The really violent crowd is from Kadapa, Kurnool, Anantapur, Guntur etc.....bombs are used like we use stones !!!

    So what ass will you kick ? you own? Don't be misled by the tough looking OU goons or their words among the crowds.
    Dont ever think of a violent movement----the retributions from elsewhere will be humongous.....and they are used to it.....study the concept of factionalism and why it existed.

    The political movement is far superior and can get results.

    Until then let us debate here.

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  23. Regarding this characterisation in pictures I never understood what these guys want to prove!!They just need a
    silly point to add to their 10 point formula.

    If u go few yrs back even telangana people used to laugh at the comedy by "Ramana Reddy" and "Allu ramaligaiah".Ramana reddy used to speak telugu of Nellore accent.Do u realy know that ??

    People need to uderstand that the characterisation depends on where the movie is acutally shot.During Ramna reddy and Relangi times only the main charasters talk pure telugu irrespective of the location and the side characters talk the local slang.
    Keep thisin mind before commenting.But no Telanganites never do that.

    If a movie has a backdrop of Andhra Villages than telangan people used to laugh when the side characters say "Aayee" or
    "Alakinchaledu" but no one commented on that.But when the movies are short in hyderabad do u think u will speak telugu like Andhra guys in hyderabad? What a stupid logic Sujai.


    Depending on accent if we need to break a state than tamilnadu,kerala,karnataka everything needs to be broken and u will definitely say Yes!!! because that will support ur movement right.

    Small states are easy for administration therotically looks good, practically it fulfill only political leaders pockets nothing else.Now 200 leader are eating away funds with other smaller states the number will go to 300 thats it.

    I never saw any of ur leaders fighting for Telangana development.U will wait till ur telangana state is formed and than will questuon ur leaders? Good.Go ahead.Dont say nothing has developed from 1969 to till now.I know people participated in 1969 movement.At that time yes people were starving,no development.People were struggling with zamindari system etc etc.

    But the situation has changed to large extent.So the slogan changed to "Self Rule".


    Instead of we fighting here if we have fought for the development of our areas it wud be great!! We are taught That Unity is our strength from our childhood but people now says we shud depart.This is how everything changes by time.Keep posting in ur blog and have fun!!!


    Hope India will have 100 states with no development!!And we will keep balming each other depend on accent,language,religion caste etc etc .

    GROW UP SUJAI!!(I know U will never do it)


    ~Kalyan

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  24. 'First the freedoms, then you can go ahead with solving other problems'.

    @sujai

    What freedom are you referring to? The freedom to run a hate blog, the freedom to attack anyone in Hyd/Telangana, the freedom to suppress others fundamental rights, the freedom to violate constitution, the freedom to spread false information (Raj news). You already have this freedom today.

    The way you keep comparing this to freedom struggle suggests the mindset you are in. If you really care about Telangana region, please start questioning minsters/MLAs from the region about what they have done for their people? Please stop them from playing with sentiments of innocent students and people.

    Your earlier posts used to make sense. You seem to be growing impatient and losing that sense now. Please stop spreading HATE.

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  25. anon12:

    What freedom are you referring to?

    We are referring to the freedom that comes with self-rule. The very same freedom Andhras sought when they separated from Madras State in 1953.

    If you really care about Telangana region, please start questioning minsters/MLAs from the region about what they have done for their people?

    Without self-rule we cannot hold our ministers/MLAs accountable. Andhras should appreciate this and allow Telangana to form so that people of Telangana can hold their ministers/MLAs accountable.

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  26. Kalyan:

    But the situation has changed to large extent.So the slogan changed to "Self Rule".

    Well it has always been ‘self-rule’ since the beginning. You failed to notice it. In 1969 it was self-rule. In 2009, it was self-rule.

    We are taught That Unity is our strength from our childhood but people now says we shud depart.

    We would have really appreciated it if Andhras who sermonize us on unity now had actually practiced what they preach. They should have stayed ‘united’ with Tamils in Madras State instead of going on fast to divide states.

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  27. @sujai..regarding @kalyan's comment

    Sorry if i am coming in between your reply to kalyan's comments..there are many points raised by him for you to answer and being the moderator or writer of the blog..i feel(not mandatory)that if any one raises a question it must be answered...

    kalyan had a question like..states were divided based on language but not on accent

    "Depending on accent if we need to break a state than tamilnadu,kerala,karnataka everything needs to be broken and u will definitely say Yes!!! because that will support ur movement right.
    "


    Can we have an answer to this..if you are willing to give so..because these are the questions which i think people reading this blog would expect answers for rather than picking up some one liners which you feel comfortable answering in..hope i am clear in what i am saying..coz you are intelligent enough to answer any question :)

    And when kalyan was referring his example about nellore or godavari accent..its absolutely true..if you show people speaking indian or chinese accent of english in a movie..everyone in the west would be laughing at the accent..that doesnt make it like the people are discrminating indians or chinese..(this is regards to only films as per the article demands)

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  28. 'Well it has always been ‘self-rule’ since the beginning. You failed to notice it. In 1969 it was self-rule. In 2009, it was self-rule. '
    Self-rule was never an agenda during the 1969 agitation.It was only for jobs and only jobs. Please ask your elders.Back in 1969 there were two camps integrationists and separatists unlike now when we just have separatist..

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  29. @ sujai,
    You ridicule Rajkumar and his fans for the riots that happened during his death.. What is your opinion on the rioting that keeps happening in the Telangana Region .... ? . Hypocrisy at its best..... Not that I am supporting any kind of rioting ... but hate it when people have opinions without knowing things

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  30. clangorous:
    What is your opinion on the rioting that keeps happening in the Telangana Region .... ? . Hypocrisy at its best...

    Please read:
    Telangana XXVII: Violence mars Telangana Agitation

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  31. Daffy:

    I am not obligated to answer every question that is posed. Sometimes the answers are already available on my blog in different articles.

    "Depending on accent if we need to break a state than tamilnadu,kerala,karnataka everything needs to be broken and u will definitely say Yes!!! because that will support ur movement right.

    Kalyan could look up:

    When will these state divisions stop?

    Telangana XV: Concerns

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  32. @sujai..

    Thank you..for the link..That would have been a good reply(according to me)..instead of always getting an answer comparing it to freedom movement or andhra seperation from tamilnadu state.

    That answers a part of my question..I had another one based on the language used in films.can i have an answer for that one too.might be i am eating up most of your valuble time..

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  33. Iam a victim of the andhra prejudice,when i wrote my 10th class CBSE exams they had a policy of exchanging papers with neighbouring districts,unfortunately for me Krishna disctric was next to Nalgonda were my school was, and i got shitty marks in telugu.(i was the class topper i was expectin like 95 i got 70) even my principal and telugu teacher were shocked.

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  34. U can imagine the fate of telugu medium students who i think are like 70% of total,their style of presentation will get identifed as telengana and they will be robbed of their marks by the andhra lecutures.

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  35. "Iam a victim of the andhra prejudice,when i wrote my 10th class CBSE exams they had a policy of exchanging papers with neighbouring districts,unfortunately for me Krishna disctric was next to Nalgonda were my school was, and i got shitty marks in telugu.(i was the class topper i was expectin like 95 i got 70) even my principal and telugu teacher were shocked."
    Hey how do u know the scripts have been evaluated by Krishna Dt teachers ,your could have been evaluated in Chennai which unlike Telangana doesn't have a reputation of hating the language.

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  36. " Indians accepted British rule for nearly two hundred years till some enlightened Indians came along and told them they could aspire for something higher and better -freedom and self-rule."
    Indians always fought against the British rule.What was 1857 Sepoy Mutiny all about.The great Komaram Bheem fought against the British. Maybe most Telanganites did not probably feeling euphoric at Nizam's rule and his role at suppressing the Revolt didn't not other Indians my dear friend.The Telanganite were probably elated at His Highness becoming His Exalted Highness.

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  37. "Without self-rule we cannot hold our ministers/MLAs accountable. Andhras should appreciate this and allow Telangana to form so that people of Telangana can hold their ministers/MLAs accountable."
    If you have mettle then let your parties win majority the seats in Telangana and form the Govt.It just asking for institution of Indian Nobel Prize or Indian Wimbledon because the worldwide competition is tough and winning the local prizes satiates your need for becoming a winner but with little competition.

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  38. There are tons of entertainment options.If you are peeved at the Tollywood movies then you can exercise the option of sitting at home or going to Hindi movies. Nobody is forcing you at the gunpoint asking you to see and review the movies. You can create new ways of keeping your folks amused.This is a democratic countries just as much as you say you are feeling offended,I have the right to make movies to cater to my needs,keeping my own taste.I need not bother about buying your good side just for heck of it .I'd like to take the movies my own way,it was for a farmer in Karimnagar or Srikakulam not to see our movies.My interest is not to appease them.

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  39. em manishiviraa nuvvu
    puttina deshamlo oka rashtranni (kashmir) vere desam cheyyalani antaav


    em manishivira nuvvu needhi kani dhanni attipettukovalani choosthav?


    puttina rashtramlo padi jillalalni vere cheyyalani antaav


    "rashtram" monna erpadindhi. danni pattukuni velladathav?


    puttina mathanni tidataav.


    kevalam oka matham lo puttinantha matrana ade goppadhani, dhanni tittakoodadhani antav?


    asalu nuvvu manishiva mundamopiva


    antey munda mopi manishi kadha? :-)


    nee amma ninnu sarigga pencaleda?
    values nerpinchaleda?chetta kundilo padisenda?


    ninnu nuvvu adhe prashna eppudanna adigava?


    ayina oka software companylo pani chestaav.Nit warangal lanti pedda institute lo chadivaav.inka emi takkauva ayindira neeku,eppudo edo okati antu untaav.neeku nijamga samajam meeda antha sanubhuthe unte nee asthi mothham danam cheseyi pedalakai


    idhi praja rajyam. nee koduku thappu chesthey tittava nuvvu. na koduku great endukantey na koduku kabatti ani oorkuntava?

    Ayina nee lanti vallatho vadhinchi em prayojanam ledhu.

    Go back to whatever the hole you crawled out from.

    -- Not Sujai.


    em manishiviraa nuvvu
    puttina deshamlo oka rashtranni (kashmir) vere desam cheyyalani antaav
    puttina rashtramlo padi jillalalni vere cheyyalani antaav
    puttina mathanni tidataav.asalu nuvvu manishiva mundamopiva
    nee amma ninnu sarigga pencaleda?
    values nerpinchaleda?chetta kundilo padisenda?

    ayina oka software companylo pani chestaav.Nit warangal lanti pedda institute lo chadivaav.inka emi takkauva ayindira neeku,eppudo edo okati antu untaav.neeku nijamga samajam meeda antha sanubhuthe unte nee asthi mothham danam cheseyi pedalakai

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  40. @Sujai


    You are wrong.1969 movement was not for SELF rule.You derived ur own conclusion like other telanganites.

    To one of the q's while answering u said Andhra guys cared damn about Supreme court ORDER in 1972.
    I think all T guys are misinterepted or taught by these so called educated goons in this way from your childhood.
    Don't tell lies about history.The way u said in one of ur post regarding indian army "If a lie is told 10 times loudly it becomes truth" in the similar way u guys are brainwashed.

    When Supreme court gave an order in favour of Telangana Mulki rules.Andhra guys said than lets split we dont want to stay with so many conditions in United state.Even they were in favour of separation.Read the Jai andhra movement.
    Again Indira Gandhi,the so called great leaders of Telangana and Andhra sat and discussed and the state was not divided.

    Every time u say we wont get bluffed by Andhra people,Andhr aleaders.Its not those guys who are bluffing u.Its ur own guys.Let me tell u an example.My Colleague has a Maid from Telangana.Her son is 7th class drop out. working as driver somewhere.Her local leader told her if Telangan is formed just learn any computer lang and u will get a job with 1 lac salary. This can happen only if "Telangana" is formed.So support the movement. Now tell me who is bluffing ?

    U never expalin this to any uneducated guy u simply say Telangana is formed we will get jobs ? How can u get 1 Lakh jobs? That too govt. jobs for 10 districts?

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  41. >>We can account our ministers only when a state is formed.

    This the worst answer which I can get from any Telangana guy.Atleast a educated guy like you.
    When ur leaders have power to get contracts and grab lands why can't be they held accountable to development of ur districts?
    This is just a blame game ur leaders are doign and without knowing the facts u beleieve them.I pitty you.

    Don't talk about freedom Sujai.Freedom is very big word to say.There is nothing which is ruined. u bunch of guys have this feeling and do the propoganda.All 10 districts celebrate Bonalu.All 10 districts of telangana speak their own slang.Its only in hyderabad the slang and other customs are different and hope u know the reason.The hatred seeds are bowed in ur childhood.

    Every time when we talk about Telagana separation u say "The way Andhrites wanted separation from Madras the same way we want it". Point taken but u need to take a point here.When they wanted their state they were asked to leave Madras to Tamils which
    completely belongs to Andhrites and they did it.R u ready for that.Now you will say U need a case !!

    I don't need a case its simple logic.Hyderabad is geographically in Telangana doesn't mean shud be given to Telagnites.Before AP formation the city was developed by other guys from Nizam state.3 district of now Maharastra and 3 districts of Karanataka.After that it was developed by all Telugu guys than how can u claim its only urs ?

    The samikhyaandhra movement clearly states lets be united or if we get divided tell the status of hyderabad and we will divide. When ur leaders talk about Telangana Revenue they include Hyderabad revenue which has a lion share 70-80% of Telangana share.But when developemnt comes they say all 9 districts are not developed.

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    1. When was Madras completely belonging to Andhrites ? Madras had 68% Tamil speakers at the time of formation of Andhra State. I'm a Tamilian , and don't think you can shoot wrong facts to make out your point.

      It was only because Telugu population was hardly 25% in Madras that Madras Manade movement was an utter flop ! Get a life, and use right facts, if you want to debate on something !

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  42. I went thru ur BLOG "where will state division stop". You said:


    "We would have reached a level of maturity then - may be in another 40 years. That’s when these divisions will stop. And who knows, we may see reunifications and mergers after that."


    Why can't we do it now ?? Why cant we all fight for development of neglected regions.It takes lot of money and time to form and develop a new state.U r educated why can't the morcha or fight we are doing can be done for development ? Let say Telangana is formed in 2yrs.MLA has not done any development for 3 yrs.So 5 crucial yrs are wasted for wait and watch why can't we all make him accoutnable and say u have to do it NOW .3-5 yrs of our time is saved.Don't u think thats better planning ?

    And ur eg of GDP of smaller sate to show development is the worng thing.We can't decide a state development depending on these %.In 1999 BJP slogan was India Glowing with 8% GDP.But what was the status of our state(s) development? If Jharkand has 8% GDP they have 200 problems.No development nothing go to Jharkand once.Just depending upon export and import these % are caluclated.


    ~Kalyan

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  43. There is a reference to an article by Nitin Harkara in your article.
    While in JNTU Nitin was an avid movie buff. I am surprised that this guy who was considered the most articulate student of those days has suddenly become such a staunch T supporter. He never expereinced any of the 'discriminations' that so many telanganites are supposed to have gone thru in their lives. Sitting so far away in America and depriving the poor Americans of their jobs Nitin now chooses to talk T !!!
    Wah Nitin----- so much so for all those arguments you used to put forth in your debates.

    As for the films and showing the T people as Villains --- I think the films went thru phases where people from various regions were the subject of humour. Just as Srikakulam language was the butt of humour during the last 10 years, the accents from Rayalaseema, Rajahmundry, Vizag, Ongole etc were also 'victimised'. Yes-- agreed that T people were shown as Villains for a much longer time. But pl recall that it was never T people from Karimnagar or Warangal or Nalgonda or Mbnr or Nzb or Adilabad who were depicted in these films....it was always a replica of the 'local goonda' from Hyderabad. And I fully support the way it was shown.In the 60s and 70s who was the local goonda in the various localities of Hyderabad - it was a local Hyderabadi. Whether his orign was in Telangana or Karnataka or Maharashtra was never known. These thugs did not know their origins. They spoke Telugu with a Hyderabadi twang and not with the twang of a Kariminagarite or Warangalite. The films only showed what the reality was in Hyderabad: from chintal basti to khairatabad to adikmet to balkampet to nampally etc. What is wrong in showing the reality. The local goons were those people. In the 80s and 90s slowly, goons from Andhra /Seema started forming in places like Dilsuknagar, Kukatpally etc. By, then anyway the film Villain had changed to a more sophisticated fellow.

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  44. 'While in JNTU Nitin was an avid movie buff. I am surprised that this guy who was considered the most articulate student of those days has suddenly become such a staunch T supporter"
    Hey it is a fashion these day for every Telangana born guy to take the name of being a leader. The movement is a god sent opportunity for every meek and timid person to become a leader.I know guys in the US who used to hang around only with Andhra guys and those who have married vizag girls beating around every possible bush in the name of Telangana.They organize Dhoom Dhams and outdoor picnics but if you see the profile of those participating and visiting most of them are seemandhras married to Telanganites. Everybody nutures a fantasy that Telangana is formed and they will impress upon TRS and their cronies to give them a project,land and god know what.Some of them are in line for becoming advisors to Telangana.Let them fight for Telangana or rattle their brains but let them not disturb the peace of mind of those in Hyderabad.Let them remember whether Hyderabad is in Telangana or not it is in India and if a person has United AP leanings it is his right and Telanganites have no business to violate whose who don't subscribe to their ideologies. Let them learn to live with their opposition.

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  45. POK:

    There is a reference to an article by Nitin Harkara in your article.
    While in JNTU Nitin was an avid movie buff. I am surprised that this guy who was considered the most articulate student of those days has suddenly become such a staunch T supporter.


    First I don’t appreciate you writing about personal details of Nitin on this blog. Using what is available on the public domain, like his article, is completely different from writing his personal life on this blog just because you were privy to it, all the while hiding behind an anonymous name. If you had strength of character, you would have identified yourself first before writing about Nitin.

    Second, I don’t understand why you think a ‘most articulate student’ cannot become a staunch T-supporter. This is the exact attitude of Andhras that we are fighting here. You think that the T-supporters are only the inarticulate, illiterate and unemployed youth. Why can’t you get this into your head that many eminent people, who are well accomplished in their lives, having done significant contribution to society are also strong supporters of Telangana cause? How long will you keep believing that this movement is still an artificial creation of some vile politicians and unemployed youth?

    He never expereinced any of the 'discriminations' that so many telanganites are supposed to have gone thru in their lives.

    Why do you think a person should through discrimination himself to talk against that discrimination? I am not a woman, I have never undergone discrimination that a woman goes through, and yet I chose to speak against discrimination against women. The same goes with the argument that I am not a Muslim, nor a Kashmiri.

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  46. TruthoftheMatter:

    Hey it is a fashion these day for every Telangana born guy to take the name of being a leader. The movement is a god sent opportunity for every meek and timid person to become a leader.

    I am not sure what your problem is with Telangana people. You hate them. You have a low opinion of them. You look down upon them. You ridicule everything they do, the way fight their fights. You have problem with people taking leadership roles, organizing events. You don’t have iota of respect for them. And yet, you want to be with them? And yet you want lay claim to their water, regions, towns and cities? I don’t get it. Why do you want to be with us and live in our cities and towns when you have such low opinions about us?

    Let them fight for Telangana or rattle their brains but let them not disturb the peace of mind of those in Hyderabad.

    You should read history and learn to look at maps. Hyderabad is deep inside Telangana with historical and cultural roots of Telangana. How can you say that they cannot fight in Hyderabad? Can you ask pre-Independent Indians not to fight against Britain inside New Delhi because some British people live there having made that city their capital? Telangana people will fight in every city, town and village of Telangana and that includes Hyderabad. Of course, they may not be fighting for Telangana in Vijayawada, Vizag or Tirupati because those cities do not belong to us.

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  47. Kalyan:

    Why can't we do it now ?

    Because many people in India are clamoring for new states. They are dissatisfied with the existing system of states. While people are still clamoring for new states, how can we expect them to reunite?

    Why cant we all fight for development of neglected regions.It takes lot of money and time to form and develop a new state.

    ;-)
    The way it took lot of money and time to form Jharkhand, Chattisgarh and Uttarakhand, Karnataka, Kerala, Gujarat, Maharashtra, Himachal Pradesh, Nagaland, Tripura, Meghalaya? The way it took lot of money and time to form Andhra State out of Madras State?

    U r educated why can't the morcha or fight we are doing can be done for development ?

    Why didn’t Indians fight for development instead of fighting for Independence from British? Why didn’t Andhras fight for development instead of fighting for separation from Madras States?

    Let say Telangana is formed in 2yrs.MLA has not done any development for 3 yrs.So 5 crucial yrs are wasted for wait and watch why can't we all make him accoutnable and say u have to do it NOW .

    You cannot make your leaders accountable when they have an excuse that they are minority in a state ruled by majority of Seemandhra.

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  48. Anonymous:

    When ur leaders have power to get contracts and grab lands why can't be they held accountable to development of ur districts?

    The answer to this is in the comment above.

    This is just a blame game ur leaders are doign and without knowing the facts u beleieve them.
    I pitty you.


    Well, some of us believe that we have more facts than our leaders. Some of us provide the facts to our leaders. So, please get out of this wishful thinking that we are blindly following our leaders. We are ready to reject and discard these leaders if they let go of the cause of Telangana. They better toe the line and keep the Telangana Movement as their top agenda, otherwise we are ready to vote them – I hope that was clear in the recent elections.

    I don’t think we need your pities. We just need you to get off our backs and let us rule ourselves.

    Don't talk about freedom Sujai.Freedom is very big word to say.

    Well, freedom is the only word that is of utmost importance in this struggle. So why abandon that? Were Indians satisfied with becoming ministers under British Government? Not really? They wanted to be free first.

    The hatred seeds are bowed in ur childhood.

    There is no hatred. We don’t want hatred. We are ready to part with you and go on our separate ways as mature adults. We don’t want to make enemies with you. We want to part with you the way India parted with British, on good terms. But unfortunately, your immaturity in dealing with this issue is not helping us.

    When they wanted their state they were asked to leave Madras to Tamils which
    completely belongs to Andhrites and they did it.R u ready for that.Now you will say U need a case !!


    The case is already available on this blog. You just failed to read it. Your laziness is no excuse for getting the same case repeated. We are ready to leave Vijayawada, Vizag, Tirupati to you because it does not fall inside Telangana. Hyderabad lies inside Telangana and it cannot be given to anyone.

    Hyderabad is geographically in Telangana doesn't mean shud be given to Telagnites.

    ;-)

    Give some examples (other than Berlin which proved a disastrous experiment).

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  49. Anonymous:

    [You should identify yourself. At least give yourself a pseudonym.]

    You are wrong.1969 movement was not for SELF rule.You derived ur own conclusion like other telanganites.

    Take up any book on 1969 Telangana agitation and read the pamphlets and texts written during those times. It’s about self-rule. If it was not about self-rule why would we ask for separate state?

    Again Indira Gandhi,the so called great leaders of Telangana and Andhra sat and discussed and the state was not divided.

    And when ‘the state was not divided’, the Supreme Court decisions were invalidated.

    Her local leader told her if Telangan is formed just learn any computer lang and u will get a job with 1 lac salary. This can happen only if "Telangana" is formed.So support the movement. Now tell me who is bluffing ?

    The local Telangana leader is bluffing. That does not mean Seemandhra leaders are not bluffing when they tell their people that more 80% people in Telangana are for united Andhra Pradesh.

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  50. TruthoftheMatter:

    There are tons of entertainment options.If you are peeved at the Tollywood movies then you can exercise the option of sitting at home or going to Hindi movies.

    Please read:
    Telangana 59: Why do we accept Telugu movies?

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  51. TruthoftheMatter:

    If you have mettle then let your parties win majority the seats in Telangana and form the Govt.

    I am not sure if you are referring to Telangana on Planet Earth.

    On Planet Earth, Telangana constitutes a minority. Even all Telanganas vote only one party they would still be a minority. That's how arithmetic works on Planet Earth.

    That's why Article 3 was introduced in Indian Constitution to save a minority region from onslaught of majority region.

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  52. TruthoftheMatter:
    Indians always fought against the British rule.What was 1857 Sepoy Mutiny all about.

    Telanganas always fought Andhras. What was 1969 agitation all about?

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  53. Daffy:

    And when kalyan was referring his example about nellore or godavari accent..its absolutely true..if you show people speaking indian or chinese accent of english in a movie..everyone in the west would be laughing at the accent..that doesnt make it like the people are discrminating indians or chinese..(this is regards to only films as per the article demands)

    Movies contain ridicule, irony, sarcasm, satire, and many other elements. Without ridicule movies may not be funny. However, all ridicule is not always based in low opinion for the people being ridiculed. Jay Leno ridicules most of the Hollywood actors, not because they think they are inferior, but the fact they are so popular, actually makes the ridicule funny. Cartoonists ridicule politicians and their behaviors and it is generally agreed that it is a healthy sign in a democracy. Certain characterization and stereotyping is also done which may or may not always have a negative connotation. When it starts becoming negative, Hollywood has tried to change it consciously, though not always successfully. But the fact they admit itself shows that they are ready to concede negative ridicule.

    However, ridiculing a blind person bumping into a lamp post is not seen as funny but being insensitive. Ridiculing a Black for being unintelligent, unworthy of professional high class job, etc, are not usually considered funny but considered demeaning and racist.

    Ridicule done with low opinion consistently targeting certain section of people need not originate discrimination but could perpetuate discrimination. It adds fuel to the fire that already exists.

    You have to see it in the context.

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  54. On Planet Earth, Telangana constitutes a minority. Even all Telanganas vote only one party they would still be a minority. That's how arithmetic works on Planet Earth.
    Are you fighting for a State or a country? If you are fighting for a country yes I agree.But within AP Telangana is the region with most seats in the Legistative Assembly.Would you deny that.Maybe you lost touch with the local politics.You must have been away from Planet Earth.Obama is a minority leader who became the President of a majority white country.

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  55. 'If it was not about self-rule why would we ask for separate state?'
    It was a vehicle for political unemployed to usurp power.WEre there no integrationist during the 69 agitation? Do choose to evade the answer.

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  56. "You have problem with people taking leadership roles, organizing events. "
    Leadership is not manhandling Seemandhra lectures and threatening the businesses of other regions..

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  57. TruthoftheMatter:

    But within AP Telangana is the region with most seats in the Legistative Assembly.Would you deny that.

    Telangana constitues 119 out of a total of 294 Assembly seats (40.4%) making it a minority against the Seemandhra politicians who stand united on most causes related to Telangana.

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  58. I am sorry sujai,today I am confirmed that your cerebrum has derailed from your cerebellum.You need urgent medical care.You have insurance??

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  59. Papam Picchi SujaiSeptember 02, 2010 2:26 AM

    I am mad mad man,,mad mad man ani evaru anukooni :-)))

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  60. Hey guys,
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    www.southflick.com

    Regards,
    Isha

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  61. Semma, Andhra people don't know about the battle of Telangana and they don't know how telangana people are struggling in their own place and they are living like servants for those people who are well educated from Seema, Andhra.They are always makes remarks on telangana people it's to bad......Most of the people of Seema Andhra are living in telangana dont forget that.
    Telugu Cinema

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  62. After 2.5 years of formation of telangana. Read the blog and comments and tell me what are the changes you observed. Even KCR's own T news is not airing programs in Telangana accent. Most of the Govt add are not in telangana Accent. None of the heroes are using it including Nitin. Blame whoom? Andhras?

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