Monday, November 01, 2010

Telangana 67: AP Formation Day

Why Telanganas refuse to celebrate AP Formation day?

Telanganas reject the farcical experiment called Andhra Pradesh.  The conditional merger that was brought in on 1st November 1956 has not lived up to the promises made on the eve of formation of Andhra Pradesh and therefore it is now paving the way for an unconditional demerger.  People of Telangana have filed for divorce citing breach of trust, lack of faith, incessant and consistent betrayals, broken promises, outright discrimination and marginalization, suppression and oppression as the reasons for breakup of this marriage which was imposed onto people of Telangana 54 years ago. 

Therefore, today it is clear to all people of Telangana that we cannot celebrate this day.  It is not a day to be proud of.  It is not a day to be happy about.  In fact, it is a sad day.  It is the day when Telangana was tossed from pan into the fire.  Getting out of Nizam rule was a relief, but immediately, it got into subjugation by Andhras that lasted 54 years now.

Many Andhras ask why we have celebrated AP formation day all these years?  And why do we reject it now? Pre-Independent Indians celebrated the events of British Empire and sang their songs.   They didn’t know better.  Those who did, they did not have the power nor the voice.  But when the movement was in full swing, people of India got enlightened and could muster enough support to boycott such celebrations.  That is what you are witnessing in Telangana now.  Some of us did not celebrate this day for quite many years now, but you failed to notice it because we were a miniscule people.  But now, entire Telangana stands enlightened of the past deeds, and they are part of the movement.  And therefore you see such huge outcry of rejection only now.
We are agitating. We are fighting for our self-expression and self-rule.  We are fighting for separate Telangana.  Any attempt by the Government of Andhra Pradesh in the control of Seemandhra politicians to force people of Telangana into celebrating this day is rebuffed.  In fact, people of Telangana have gone onto to protest this day with black flags.  The elected representatives refrained from public functions while students led the protests.  We want to convey this message clearly to everyone: we are not proud of this day.  And you cannot impose this day onto us.  We will resist it with vehement and forceful agitations, the only weaponsavailable to us desperate people.

Why reject Potti Sriramulu?

Andhras don’t understand why Telanganas do not speak high of Potti Sriramulu and why he is not a hero to us.  They don’t understand why we reject him.  Andhras ask, is he not a pious man who fasted for pride of Telugu people?  Aren’t Telanganas also Telugu people? So why do Telanganas reject this hero?

Potti Sriramulu has not fought for Telangana or its people.  He fought for people of Andhras to secure Madras as State Capital, in which he failed, but succeeded in getting a new state for people of Andhra called Andhra State, breaking away from erstwhile Madras State.  After his death, people of Andhras extended the argument of Telugu pride by merging with Telangana to form Andhra Pradesh, and that experiment now stands as a dismal failure.  It is decided now that Telugu is not a common identity good enough to unite the people of Telangana and Seemandhra.  Identity and pride of Telugu was used by the oppressors to subjugate Telangana. It is clear now that there are far more differences between Telanganas and Andhras which could lead to thorough and sustained discrimination and marginalization of Telanganas, and those differences are good enough to go separate ways now.

The reason for rejecting Potti Sriramulu originates in two ways.  One, Andhras kept telling the lies to people of Telangana that Potti Sriramulu sacrificed his life for Telugu people and Telugu identity which supposedly included people of Telangana.  His idea of Telugu people did not include Telanganas and therefore that lie needs to be rejected.  The imposition of Telugu identity is now discarded, and therefore any pride that you want us to feel for Telugu identity is starkly missing.  So be not surprised when we reject Potti Sriramulu for what he stood for.  Two, Andhras used the statues, idols and posters of Potti Sriramulu in their Samaikhyandhra agitations against Telangana people.  Therefore, Telanganas, in their effort to reject everything that is used to subjugate them further, also reject Potti Sriramulu, and attack his idols and statues because they have now become symbols of oppressors.   

If Americans carry the idol and figures of George Washington to invade new lands, there is a good chance that the suppressed people will burn the effigies of George Washington and break down his statues if found in their lands.   If Andhras want Telanganas to respect Potti Sriramulu, they should stop using his idols, statues and figures in their Samaikhyandhra agitations.

391 comments:

  1. Hi missed-the-nobel-peace,

    gr8 to see u in action again after a long gap.

    so you passed the judgement that Telugu is not common identity.
    why not pass parliament bill too?

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  2. Sujai,

    you have not dropped your habit of representing all Telanganas and accusing all Andhras.

    Who are those Andhras raising questions?
    Whi are those Telanganas answering them?

    Stop talking on behalf of all Telanganas.

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  3. Stop talking on behalf of all Telanganas

    @prabhakar - I second this dude.

    @Sujai - You can express your opinion. But don't portray it as every Telanganite's. If you want to come out of your myopic world, you'll see the different opinions. And please do not act as if you can read everyone's mind/thoughts.

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  4. anon123, prabhakar:

    Have you read any history? If so, do you not see generalizations, like 'Indians fought for freedom against British', that 'North Vietnamese invaded South Vietnam', that 'North went to war with South in US Civil War'?

    When you read those histories, do you not know that some Indians wanted British stay on, that some North Vietnamese were against invasion of the South, that not all in North were opposed to South in US and vice versa.

    So, how do you read those histories? Or do you don't read them at all?

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  5. anon123 and prabhakar thought they are smart but busted immediately. heheheheee...

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  6. This is for all those telangana vaadulu (Again generalized). I have heard couple of things with respect to this whole issue. The so called vaadis have said in the past that this experiment is not working and we should part our ways as brothers. At the same time, the same folks say that this marriage is not working and telaganites are asking for divorce. I may be missing something here but how come brothers marry each other and turn this tussle in to spousal dispute. Did we commit an illicit, gay incest !!! oh oh.... my oh my... what did we do ?

    So to fit your convenience, you call this a marriage or a sibling relationship turned sour. I think we all need to work out the kind of relationship we share and should not be sending conflicting signals.

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  7. FLOODS IN ANDHRA


    Another ruse for the govt to transfer thousands of crores to Andhra from State exchequer. Last year they got 90% of funds for Disaster Relief Farm Subsidies amounting more than thousand crores, this year its going to be same. Telengana never got any Funds for Drought or Natural Disasters.


    In Case a Full blown Cyclone strikes Coastal Andhra we mustnot send any Relief and Stop all Andhra Refugees coming into Telengana.

    We must Garland the "great" Andhra leaders statues with Chappals, they cant have police gaurding them 24/7 Can THey.

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  8. @Sujai,
    anon123, prabhakar:

    Have you read any history?


    Yes we read history.
    But by authorized historians and chroniclers only. Not radical hate-mongerers.
    There were instances where people like you with biased views presented history. But these were not accepted.

    You are not even a journalist so that somebody can correct you.

    Your approach is 'naa blaagu naa ishtam'.
    Your view must be a view only and cannot be assertion on behalf of all Telanganas.

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  9. By the same logic even Gandhi or any other freedom fighter did not fight against the Nizam. They only fought against the Raj.

    And so even there statues need to be eliminated or what?

    What a contrived way of looking at things is this?

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  10. <<Yes we read history.
    But by authorized historians and chroniclers only.


    History is written by the Victors.
    Historians "Authorized" by Seemandhra Rulers Lampooned Telengana people and Culture.
    But U wont be "victors" for long and history is going to be re-written by Telenganites.

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  11. @ADITYA
    u said u must stop cycoln refugees?
    OMG asalu nuvvu manishiva rakshasudiva?
    oka pakka tofaanlo sarvasvam pothe vallani addukuntanu antaava.
    manishivenara nuvvu.
    and u said slipper garlanding.
    nee lanti bazaar rowdylu entha mandi unna potti sriramulu gaaru lanti goppa vyaktula kaali gitki kuda saripovu.he did fasting for58 days.nobody else in world history ahs done for no long.compare this with the saline deekshalu of kcr or his "lover" lagadapati.
    alanti goppavaadini tittadaniki neeku nori ela vachindi raa.
    nuvvu manavatvam leni mrugaanivi.no doubt in that.
    sadist of the highest order.
    nasanam aipotaavu raa.sarva naasanam aipothavu
    puttagathulu lekunda potaavu

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  12. @Anonymous

    U soundlike LakshmiParvati Ranting on TV.

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  13. <<he did fasting for58 days.nobody else in world history ahs done for no long.

    Your "Potti" is no guinnes record holder ,Irom Sharmila Completed 10 Yrs of Fasting today now thats a Record. But she did it KCR's style u may not like it.

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  14. @sujai
    dont u consider MNCs as a form of "economic opression" on indeginious Indian firms?
    if so, y dont u attack them?

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  15. < you soundlike LakshmiParvati Ranting on TV>
    i felt the same about you many times.
    and regarding your argumenets about statues, first you said he ahs nothing to do with our region. then u said domination, when someone gave counter example of mcdonalds and karachi bakery, u shifted to ridiculing our culture.when he said, potti sriramulu dint ridicule, u said his region people did.
    antha nee ishtamena?are you a monarch?

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  16. @sujai
    its an open secret that usa supports our enemy pakistan and also it bombards many countries like afganistan, iraq, etc.
    i would be very happy if u stop buying american brands as part of it goes to their govt and it would eb used for the above mentioned activities.
    i understand you have a excellent repuatation as a blogger.kindly motivate your friends also.i have already reduced buying goods of american companies.

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  17. @Anonymus

    First Stop Using Internet as it is developed by Americans, then Burn Ur Computer as it not Swadeshi as most indigenous Companies have atleast some stocks owned by Americans , U must boycott 99% of top Indian Companies.
    The best thing I suggest to make ur life easy is to find a "swadeshi" made homespun Cotton Cloth and hangurself to Ceiling Fan(no that might be american so find a tree instead)

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  18. how come brothers marry each other and turn this tussle in to spousal dispute. Did we commit an illicit, gay incest !!! oh oh.... my oh my... what did we do ?

    So is this also issue now? Do we need to discuss this too?

    Marriage is between Andhra and Telangana regions, not between people.

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  19. Anonymous:

    its an open secret that usa supports our enemy Pakistan

    But then USA supports many other countries which are friendly to us. USA also supports countries like India through trade and commerce, nuclear agreements, friendly bilateral relations, etc.

    i would be very happy if u stop buying american brands as part of it goes to their govt and it would eb used for the above mentioned activities.

    What would happen to Bangalore if US companies stop outsourcing to India?

    i have already reduced buying goods of american companies.

    There is no need to do that. Instead try to increase India’s productivity so that it can compete other economies.

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  20. Anonymous:

    dont u consider MNCs as a form of "economic opression" on indeginious Indian firms?

    No, I don’t consider MNCs as a form of ‘economic oppression’. In some areas, there may be excesses. A country has every right to create regulations the way they want to. There is no use in blaming the MNCs.

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  21. prabhakar:

    I was NOT discussing the views or opinions of the writers - they could be biased/unbiased, rabid/composed, amateur/seasoned.

    I was referring to 'generalizations' used by all writers while writing history or contemporary events where one group is pitted against another. Even news items on a daily basis use these generalizations.

    Now, for the next question:

    Did you pass any competitive exams where there were questions on logical reasoning?

    [If you did, then I will start doubting the efficacy of such exams]

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  22. Doesitmatter:

    You need to know the following:
    Metaphor, simile, analogy, literal.

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  23. Pre British there were 500+ kingdoms and there was never a single region encompassing the sub-continent.
    At any point of time for say upto 1000 years was there ever a region/kingdom that constitutes the current desired T state? (+ the areas now with Karnataka and maharashtra.)


    If not, can we consider the area under the Nizam rule as the basis for the T state?

    If yes, shouldn't all areas under the Nizam rule be included? Would that not include Kurnool and Kadapa? And why not the area 'ceded' by the Nizam.

    If we go back further from the Nizam rule wouldn't the Kakatiya kingdom include other areas outside the T region.

    What is the basis for restricting only to the current districts?

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  24. Sujai,

    You write with so much passion about Telangana's victimhood that I find it amusing you don't even live there.Your company, instead of being setup in Warangal or Adilabad or at least Hyderabad, is in Bangalore.

    There are lakhs of Seemandhra origin people who are born, brought up and settled in Hyderabad and rest of Telangana.They have created wealth, pay their taxes, and suffer along with their Telangana brethren from the 'alleged discrimination' of the political class in giving funds to Telangana.

    Even today, as I see in Hyderabad and nearby districts at least, it is a minuscule minority of unemployed students and paid rowdies who are into these agitations.And you can't argue with me about the veracity of your/my claims because I am on the ground here, dude, and you are in Bangalore.

    The leader of the movement is a vile, opportunistic politician, and now, a gullible Gaddar has come up demanding a share in the profits.And there are people like Kodandaram who simply want to up the ante till the right price is paid for their disloyalty to the cause.

    And now I see funny statements from your leaders that whatever was in Telangana on 1956 Oct 31, should form the new state, and that includes Hyderabad.There's some news for those leaders: Large parts of Khammam, Nalgonda and Mahbubnagar districts would then go back to Visaalandhra.

    As for Hyderabad, today the majority of people in twin cities are non-Telanganas. And they would continue to dominate the city.Does not matter if it is in Telangana or a separate state by it self or a UT.

    All in all, I foresee that the Sri Krishna committee's recommendation would not solve the problem either.Looks like the agitation would get drawn on till TDP is completely decimated and then it would slowly peter out.

    If Telangana is given by Congress because Sonia & Co believe it is in their best interests, then I foresee a tussle between various leaders (KCR, Vijayashanti, Gaddar etc) to become CM.Your best choice would be Jaipal Reddy but he seems to be disgusted with the political culture in Telangana.

    What a pity ! It is all karma, I guess :)

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  25. @Kumar Narsimha

    Funny that U think Hyderabad consists of Majority Non-Telenganites.

    Iam not suprised that the 25 lakh Telenganite Population within Hyderabad is "Invisible" to u , that view may be responsible for ur attitude. I dont Think Seemandhra "settler" population within Hyderabad doesnt exceed 7lakhs, the reason U think they are Majority may be due to their economic and Political Domination over Hyderabad.

    I dont find it amusing that a Migrant "settler" questions the Nativity of a Telenganite.


    << They have created wealth, pay their taxes, and suffer along with their Telangana brethren from the 'alleged discrimination'

    Well they created the wealth for themselves and i doubt they pay taxes, on the Contrary the are the "Benefeciaries" of the "existent" Discrimination.


    <<The leader of the movement is a vile, opportunistic politician, and


    Seemandhra Politicans are No "Saints". They are "Master" Politicians compared to Telengana ones.

    <<.And you can't argue with me about the veracity of your/my claims because I am on the ground here, dude, and you are in Bangalore.



    A British Colonial officer could have made a same claim to Ghandhi In Africa that , He is on the "ground" here. Your Being on the "ground" here is the real Problem.

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  26. <<< it is a minuscule minority of unemployed students and paid rowdies who are into these agitations.


    You can ignore or dismiss the Authenicity of Telengana movement at your own "peril".

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  27. Kumar Narasimha:

    You write with so much passion about Telangana's victimhood that I find it amusing you don't even live there.

    There’s nothing amusing about it. I wrote in one of the articles on this blog that ‘every people’s movement has a set of ideologues, a set of leaders, a set of organizers, a set of agitators (foot soldiers) and a huge set of sympathizers’. While the organizers and agitators necessarily function by living in the land where the movement is carried out, sympathizers can live anywhere on the planet. As we speak, there are many Telangana outfits formed in USA, UK, Australia, etc. Recently, they celebrated Bathukamma festival in some cities in North America.

    Similarly, ideologues can contribute to the movement being anywhere on the planet. Especially, in today’s world, one can write anywhere and be part of the movement. Usually leaders are present where the movement is carried out, but in some cases they do not live in the same land. Some of them conduct the movement by being in exile. For example: Dalai Lama, Trotsky.

    Many Jews living in USA influenced formation of Israel. There are thousands of people living in USA having passion for India, and working for India by living in USA. They contribute to foundations like ASHA, CRY, etc. Some ex-entrepreneurs live in USA but work for India, like Kanwal Rekhi, Vinod Khosla, etc. Sam Pitroda, the person responsible for communication revolution in India, lives in USA.

    Your company, instead of being setup in Warangal or Adilabad or at least Hyderabad, is in Bangalore.

    Yes, it is unfortunate that Warangal does not have any industry because of neglect of AP government. I do hope that will change once Telangana is formed. I do hope that some places in Telangana also get industry. I do hope that leaders of Telangana will be proactive and invite industry into its regions. I do hope that I would be able to set up my company in my region.

    Industry thrives only when the necessary ecosystem is developed. I bemoan that there is no highway between Warangal and Hyderabad even though Warangal is considered second most important city of Telangana. Even now it takes 3 hours to travel. With new airport in Hyderabad it became even clear that many of the districts in Telangana will not get an airport because of certain clauses that were agreed upon.

    There are lakhs of Seemandhra origin people who are born, brought up and settled in Hyderabad and rest of Telangana.

    Read my article called ‘Born in Telangana’. We believe they have the same rights as any other Telangana person. Their loyalties may be elsewhere. But they have legal rights of any other Telangana.
    [Contd..]

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  28. [Continued from previous comment]

    Kumar Narasimha:

    Even today, as I see in Hyderabad and nearby districts at least, it is a minuscule minority of unemployed students and paid rowdies who are into these agitations.

    That’s a wrong impression. But it’s your impression. It’s unfortunate that you have that impression. You are in for a big surprise. In history, many people have misread such people’s movements. They failed to see it coming even though it was looming large straight in their face.

    And you can't argue with me about the veracity of your/my claims because I am on the ground here, dude, and you are in Bangalore.

    True. I can’t argue with you. There were many Germans, Poles, Ukranians, living in their own lands but not ready to believe that there were concentration camps in their midst, while the people living outside Nazi occupied Germany knew about them. Living in a certain place doesn’t necessarily equip you with wisdom or the understanding of the local people or their sentiments. BTW, it doesn’t take much effort to travel into Telangana and back if you are living in Bangalore.

    The leader of the movement is a vile, opportunistic politician, and now, a gullible Gaddar has come up demanding a share in the profits.

    As long as you think that way, you are not looking at the issue straight in the eye. You are in a state of denial. Churchill thought Gandhi was a vile and opportunistic politician. But Indians thought differently.

    And now I see funny statements from your leaders that whatever was in Telangana on 1956 Oct 31, should form the new state, and that includes Hyderabad.There's some news for those leaders: Large parts of Khammam, Nalgonda and Mahbubnagar districts would then go back to Visaalandhra.

    Know your history.

    All in all, I foresee that the Sri Krishna committee's recommendation would not solve the problem either.

    We never believed it will. We continue to believe that the solution to the current problem lies in a political decision, not an end product of a committee or a commission.

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  29. POK:

    Telangana, like a nation, is an idea. It exists as long as people of a certain region think it exists. If tomorrow, people of Telangana do not think they are part of single entity, but would like to bifurcate into north and south, they could do so, and they might call each other some names of their choice.

    Would that not include Kurnool and Kadapa?

    Currently, the people of Kurnool and Kadapa identify themselves as part of Rayalaseema, and fight along with Andhra as ‘Seemandhras’ and carryout ‘Samaikhyandhra agitations’.

    If in future, due to changed circumstances, people of Kurnool and Kadapa identify with Telangana, then your hypothetical question has a merit. For now, it is just an academic exercise that needs to be discarded.

    What is the basis for restricting only to the current districts?

    The basis is the minds of the people. The majority residing in Telangana believe they are part of Telangana. If any district doesn’t believe it, they could voice it now.

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  30. What Telangana agitation has given to this region -
    1. Damaged the reputation of OU.
    2. Many software projects, jobs were lost.
    3. I got 1 month holidays during my college(this was a good one though).

    Finally I am from telangana.I don't think a separate state is going change my life anyway.

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  31. Shravan:

    Finally I am from telangana.I don't think a separate state is going change my life anyway.

    Neither will my life change anyway. And yet we fight, for our people.

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  32. @sujai
    i would like to stress VERY MUCH on one of the statements of kumar narasimha about taxes paid by settlers.
    there are more than 5 lakhs people of seemandhra origin in hyd alone and this includes everyone from the migrant construction labourer to a company director in banjara hills, software enginers, shopkeepers, doctors, etc i.e. people from all walks of life. you people many times protested that they are economically well off compard to natives.at the same time you also complain about "revenue diversion".
    ante memu katte taxes and generate chese revenue mee budget lo pedtaaru kaani memu meeku vaddu.
    deenikante pedda anyayam undadu
    whenever u move across hitech city or begumpet flyover, or shamshabad airport rememebr that it was constructed out of funds generated by PEOPLE FROM ALL REGIONS.

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  33. in the same way, vijayawada, vizag and tirupathi have less industries compared to hyd.this is EXACTLY the reason y people from seemandhra districts come to hyderabad for employment

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  34. @sujai:
    I was expecting you to reply on first two points as your from engg. field.

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  35. Anonymous:

    there are more than 5 lakhs people of seemandhra origin in hyd alone and this includes everyone from the migrant construction labourer to a company director in banjara hills, software enginers, shopkeepers, doctors, etc i.e. people from all walks of life. you people many times protested that they are economically well off compard to natives.at the same time you also complain about "revenue diversion".

    I think there is a misunderstanding here. I am not sure if you realize this but our fight is not against common Seemandhra people. If that was case, there would have been violence in the streets of Telangana. We continue to tell you that we are very good friends with many Seemandhras. We do not hate them nor do we want to get rid of them.

    Unlike some Seemandhra commenters who believe that we cannot stand Seemandhra people, let it be known that there are many Seemandhra friends who are sympathetic to our cause. And even those who are not sympathetic, we don’t necessarily make enemies out of them.

    Our fight is against the rule of Seemandhras which results in discrimination of Telangana region and its people, results in neglect of Telangana, deprives Telanganas of their rightful opportunities in their own region. Sometime we express our ire and anger against Seemandhra people (please understand the difference between hate and anger), because the rule of Seemandhras continues only with support of Seemandhra people.

    ante memu katte taxes and generate chese revenue mee budget lo pedtaaru kaani memu meeku vaddu.

    We never said we don’t want you. We only said, we don’t want your rule. The day you understand the difference, you will understand what Telangana Movement is all about. You will then understand why some of us, educated and rational people, continue to support Telangana Movement, though you do your best to characterize it as a hooligan and rowdy movement.

    whenever u move across hitech city or begumpet flyover, or shamshabad airport rememebr that it was constructed out of funds generated by PEOPLE FROM ALL REGIONS.

    No denying there. We don’t claim those were built with taxes of Telangana people alone. But then you would have to agree that Telanganas were denied their right share in irrigation which must have resulted much bigger losses for people of Telangana over the last 54 years.

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  36. Shravan:

    I was expecting you to reply on first two points as your from engg. field.
    What Telangana agitation has given to this region -
    1. Damaged the reputation of OU.
    2. Many software projects, jobs were lost.


    Well, according to me the reputation of Osmania University has soared now, joining the annals of the history as a college that spurred one of the greatest people’s movements on the planet. One American friend who got to know about our movement called it Berkeley of India. It’s sad and unfortunate that our people have no value for people’s movements anymore. Fighting for our people’s freedom is the greatest struggle a man can fight. I wish I could now be a student, and be in Osmania University. How unfortunate it would be, to be a student now, and not participating in the agitations when the history is in the making. It is like the sad story of a person who did not participate in a rally during Indian Independence Movement.

    I don’t necessarily believe that Telangana agitation has actually resulted in substantial losses to software projects in the state. To start with, the contribution of IT/ITES to Andhra Pradesh is miniscule (around 1.4%). And in the last two years, revenues from IT/ITES have been increasing, though the rate of increase has reduced just like for other states due to recession.

    I believe that as a new state we can improve this industry this much better. And Telangana cannot concentrate only on IT/ITES. It has to increase its share in other industries also. All that is possible only if are in a position to take decisions on our own for our region.

    Freedom first, economy next.

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  37. @@@@Anonymus
    <<<i would like to stress VERY MUCH on one of the statements of kumar narasimha about taxes paid by settlers.
    there are more than 5 lakhs people of seemandhra origin in hyd alone and

    rr
    I would say that you are Getting much more than what you pay with taxes. First you are getting the Beautiful cimate of Hyderabad comparedd to the Shitty sweltering weather of Coastal Andhra. Your Andhra Settlers are not staying in Slums are they. Most of "settlers" stay in "prime Realestate" ,like KPHB colony,DSNR,Banjara Hills, i would say they are gettin much more than what they pay with their Lousy taxes and most of them default paying their taxes, they got free housing colonies in Prime SPots.Cant believe they are whining about telenganites benefiting from their "divine presence".

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  38. @aditya

    there are coastal DISTRICTS but not all places there are on the beach.only vijayawada and to some extent vizag are sultry.and nowadays even in hyd temperature is quite high.

    comparing middle class areas like kpbh and dsnr with banjara hills?
    mee intelligenceke vadilestunna
    and talking about slums, number of construction labourerers migrate to hyd daily.

    proof please

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  39. most of them default paying their taxes

    proof please?

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  40. Seemandhra Settlers Didnt contribute a Anna towards HitechCity or Shamshabad Airport.

    the 3500 Acres of Shamshabad was acquired from the farmers of RR district and were paid lousy Compensation.
    Most of the Major corporations in so called "Hitech City" are located in Rahejas Mindspace, which leased the land from govt for Dirt Cheap Prices and is now illegally profiting up to 300 crore a year.
    Not a Single Cent was Given by seemandhra people. So whenver a "settler" says he is responsible for HightechCity i suggest u slap him First and then explain

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  41. Sujai,

    Since there was no T region historically, and as you state it is on account of the feeling by the people of these districts towards a T state that the T map will comprise those districts....what would happen if a part of Kurnool ( a majority) identify with T and want to be a part of it. Or if a majority of Mahaboobnagar don't want to be a part of T. ofcourse in the currrent circumstances no one in T will dare to stand up and say 'we dont want a T state'. They may...may, give such an indicator thru an election for instance.

    So how is the voice of the majority in MBNR being considered today?

    If the Centre notifies (constitutionally guaranteed)that for instance the CM for the state will henceforth be from T for say next 20 years as also the ministers for irrigation, revenue, and 4-5 other major ministries would that make the situation different?

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  42. A two bedroom apartment In DSNR goes for 10KRS for month.And i dont think its middle class rent. If u think Banjara Hills is some "Beverly Hills" its up to U.

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  43. Most of the "violent Agitations" like burning buses, Smashing Andhra Vechicles Ocuured in District bordering Andhra like RR,Mahboonagar,Nalgonda more than that of Northern Telengana Districts.

    Guess they got to Know UR andhra Nature better living besides u thats why the hate Ur people much more than northern telengana.

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  44. <<<<most of them default paying their taxes
    proof please?


    That will easy to say when u dont pay any taxes,cause there will be no Records of u paying taxes moron.

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  45. A two bedroom apartment In DSNR goes for 10KRS for month.And i dont think its middle class rent. If u think Banjara Hills is some "Beverly Hills" its up to U.

    i stay in tirupathi which has a popultaion of aroun 5 lakhs.(around 10-20% of hyderabad.not a single it company, not a single multiplex.onl few film theatres of b grade standard.only 1 shopping mall in whole town.and NOWHERE do we get a 2 bedroom flat wich is less than 6 k rent per month.
    so u deciede if 10 k per month rents in the area wich u said is reasonable or not.and regarding banjara hills, post of the politicians stay there.
    right?

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  46. POK:

    So how is the voice of the majority in MBNR being considered today?

    I think we discussed this before. You are asking the same question at repeated intervals. You are coming up with hypothetical scenarios which do not deserve merit. Please ask people of Mahbubnagar to raise their voice and tell the rest of Telangana that they don’t want to be with Telangana. That is a first step. Otherwise, from seeing the things as I am seeing, where many people of Mahbubnagar are eagerly participating in the agitations, I am forced to believe that they want to be part of Telangana.

    Did anyone from Mahbubnagar go to Srikrishna Committee and tell them they don’t want to be part of Telangana? Is there a collective voice? Or is it just you?

    If the Centre notifies (constitutionally guaranteed)that for instance the CM for the state will henceforth be from T for say next 20 years as also the ministers for irrigation, revenue, and 4-5 other major ministries would that make the situation different?

    No.

    Why? Read history. How many times have they made promises that were eventually broken? Many of those promises were constitutionally guaranteed.

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  47. Most of the "violent Agitations" like burning buses, Smashing Andhra Vechicles Ocuured in District bordering Andhra like RR,Mahboonagar,Nalgonda more than that of Northern Telengana Districts


    its because people who have to reach hyderabad have to travel through these districts.
    dont think only you are clever.
    ok?
    but overall force of agitation is less more in north telangana i suppose.maximum in warangal and karimnagar
    dont think only you are clever.
    ok?
    and i read in todays andhrajothy that some people came from kodada(nalgonda) to krishna district and protested on the roads there.but local police dint arrested them.cops had to come all the way from kodads to do so.
    can the same situation-seemadhra people protest for samaikya andhra in telangana happen today?
    can u give the same democratic freedom to our people?

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  48. @aditya
    on what basis are you saying that settlers dont pay taxes?

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  49. the 3500 Acres of Shamshabad was acquired from the farmers of RR district and were paid lousy Compensation.

    lousy or adequate, compensation was paid and hence it has the contribution of tax payers.
    you are talking about cost of aquiring only.wat abput the cost of construction (public private partnership.im sure state and central govt incurred considerable costs

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  50. Sujai,

    do not try twisting everything to your convenience.
    You asked "have you read history?" I replied Yes.

    I stressed that generalizations are not acceptable from hate-mongerers like you.
    If you cannot understand such a straight statement, maybe time to go to school.
    I repeat again, your are just another faceless blogger spreading his own rabid views.
    DO NOT GENERALIZE THEM.

    Reg.logical reasoning
    I do not boast my self like you do "I am born intelligent", "great thinker" blah blah.

    You take up arguments like "2 lakh jobs looted..." and go on spreading hatred.
    But my logical reasoning tells me to authenticate such statements before spreading them.

    Till date you have not proven expliotation in water or jobs with any valid proof.
    Hold! I am not asking you again. Bcoz you will once again point me to Prof. Jayashankar and Sridhar Deshpande.

    BTW, in our last discussion I had aksed you about apologies from 'Doras'.
    You were silent on it. Well you logical reasoning told you not to answer. Coz you will be in soup.
    Better set your own house right before jumping on others.
    How can you talk of logical thinking while sitting among ruthless landlords who sucked dignity and lives of fellow peasants?

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  51. @Shravan

    <<Finally I am from telangana.I don't think a separate state is going change my life anyway.

    Thats a very pessimistic attitude, i believe that U dont think much of "independance" from British too.

    There are going to major gains for Telengana people more than that gained from Indian independance, may be notmuch for upper caste middle class people like u and me but huge gains for backwards castes.

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  52. Please ask people of Mahbubnagar to raise their voice and tell the rest of Telangana that they don’t want to be with Telangana. That is a first step. Otherwise, from seeing the things as I am seeing, where many people of Mahbubnagar are eagerly participating in the agitations, I am forced to believe that they want to be part of Telangana.


    above statement is good enough to to understand you. You could not say with total confidence that MBNR are for Telangana. You are seeing the things only that you want to see. I also doubt it could be your vision like one of those schizophrenic patients.

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  53. @@@Prabhakar
    <<BTW, in our last discussion I had aksed you about apologies from 'Doras'


    Telengana people long stopped Using the word "doras" after the Peasent Uprisings and Landreforms that unfortunately failed to occur in Seemandhra. That may be the reason Andhra people Slavishly worship their imperial "thella Dhoras" example: Kotton Dhora.

    I dont expect much from a Culture that Idolises Bloodthirsty thugs like "Paritala ravi".

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  54. <<bove statement is good enough to to understand you. You could not say with total confidence that MBNR are for Telangana




    I saw with my own eyes people of Mahboobnagar Vandalise Vehicles with Andhra Number plates, wat more proof u want about their loyalty to Telengana Cause, Perhaps Piking few Andhra Heads to poles will satisfy u.

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  55. <<lousy or adequate, compensation was paid and hence it has the contribution of tax payers.

    People like u should be hanged( and iam one of those who dont believe in death penality).

    Well Nazi Gas Chambers were funded with money from German tax payers, i bet u consider that to be a "contribution" too.

    Telengana tax payers money is going to be wasted on Andhra parasites like U for flood relief.

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  56. @@@ Identity less Andhra coward

    <<but overall force of agitation is less more in north telangana i suppose.maximum in warangal and karimnagar.


    I suppose that u reached that "informed Judgment" from bullshit Andhra Media like Andhrajoythi,andhra---,andhra--etc.
    U can read what makes u feel well .
    But truth is that agitations and "tensions" are strongest near Andhra Bordering Districts.
    Iam from Karimnagar and I travelled during throughout the agitations, I witnessed strongest protests in Mahboobnagar where i saw youth on Rampage. Andhra travellers along the road were really panick stricken.

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  57. Kumara Narasimha,
    you said

    And you can't argue with me about the veracity of your/my claims because I am on the ground here, dude, and you are in Bangalore.


    Our gr8 sujai has gr8 visions. He is omnipresent and sees everything that happens in T, rule of oppression in every details.
    'Toaramudu' gifted Sujai 'nepaali maantrikudi drubhini'.

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  58. think there is a misunderstanding here. I am not sure if you realize this but our fight is not against common Seemandhra people.

    Wahwah kya bath hai!

    What about?

    http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/telangana-40-why-blame-all-andhras.html

    Looks memories are great guys also very short.

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  59. i would be very happy if u stop buying american brands as part of it goes to their govt

    పాకిస్తాన్లో ఇండియా ఫ్లాగ్ అమ్ముకోవటం అంటే ఇదే. ఇక్కడ టాపిక్ ఏంటి, నువ్వు మాట్లాడుతున్నది ఏంటి?

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  60. What is the basis for restricting only to the current districts?

    Who asked you that we need districts which ruled by Nijam or some one else? We are asking the area(which was called as Telangana in fazal report) which is merged into Andhra. Cant you understand a simple line?

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  61. The leader of the movement is a vile, opportunistic politician,

    wrong, if you are talking about KCR then you should rephrase your statement. KCR only holds 10MLAs power, and rest of the MLAs belongs to other parties, they also support Telangan. KCR's strength is a small fraction in total combined power.

    And they would continue to dominate the city.
    We dont care, as long as Telangana tax money is not spent in Andhra we are okey. Infact your lagadapati can move to HYD and can became Telangana CM, we dont care.

    Large parts of Khammam, Nalgonda and Mahbubnagar districts would then go back to Visaalandhra.

    sorry, cant understand that.

    then I foresee a tussle between various leaders (KCR, Vijayashanti, Gaddar etc) to become CM.

    with 10 MLAs? are you in the dreams? But any way, why do you care?

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  62. whenever u move across hitech city or begumpet flyover, or shamshabad airport rememebr that it was constructed out of funds generated by PEOPLE FROM ALL REGIONS.

    Yes, that is what exactly we are talking about. When all areas contributing taxes to AP govt, then AP govt should spend the money accordingly. But this is not happening, we believe much of the portion of money is used in Andhra and neglected the Telangana.

    You are worrying about Samsabad (by the way isn't built by private company by giving the telangana lands) and flyovers, but are worrying about thousands of crors which supposed to spent in Telangana but illegally spent in Andhra.

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  63. So how is the voice of the majority in MBNR being considered today?


    Let them speak for them self, if they are afraid they loose.

    Didn't that Nagam is from MBNR?

    Before asking us , first question your self about your United Andhra band

    ఒకడు ప్రత్యక సీమ అంటాడు, ఒకడు ప్రత్యక ఉత్తర ఆంధ్ర అంటాడు, ఒకడు రాయల తెలంగాణా అంటాడు, ఇంకొకడు సీమతో కర్ణాటకలో కొన్ని ప్రాంతాలు కలిపి ప్రత్యక రాస్త్రమంటాడు, ఇంకోడు ఉత్తరంద్రతో ఒరిస్సాలో కొన్ని గిరిజన ప్రాంతాలు కలిపి ఒక రాస్త్రమంటాడు, ఇంకోడు జై ఆంధ్ర అంటాడు

    So , how do you justify that all Telugus want to stay together?

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  64. can the same situation-seemadhra people protest for samaikya andhra in telangana happen today?

    May be no. because we dont have to be like you.

    There is another news few weeks back that few of the settlers in Medak beaten up few telanganaties in some land issues. Can this happen in Seemandra now?

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  65. How can you talk of logical thinking while sitting among ruthless landlords who sucked dignity and lives of fellow peasants?

    I see you anger in your argument, that is the sign that you are not able to argue properly.

    If you want to talk about the incidents where upper casts kicked/murdered/mas-murder/raped/abused etc etc. There are more such cases filed in Seemandra than Telangana. Such incidents are all listed in this blog many times. We never had a incident like karamchedu by thinking any human will feel ashamed.

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  66. You are seeing the things only that you want to see.

    And same applies to you. so end of discussion. Thanks for writing here.

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  67. "One American friend who got to know about our movement called it Berkeley of India."
    My American friend after hearing about the agitation and real reason why his team is not able to work called it the Beirut of India and the agitators the people who are dolls in the hands of their demagogues.

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  68. "If Americans carry the idol and figures of George Washington to invade new lands, there is a good chance that the suppressed people will burn the effigies of George Washington and break down his statues if found in their lands. "
    Don't draw stupid analogies.Don't ascribe your medieval motives to Americans. Nobody knows the heck of statue or effigy burning. Maybe our folks can give a crash course. Every town,city,dwelling in the US has Geo Washington statue and has atleast a street named after him.Do we hear about effigy burning?
    God Bless America and Telangana.
    Maybe we'll start having your statues all over Telangana,Andhra and Seema and start burning them since you are the 'hatred' coach for Telangana.

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  69. @GreenStar
    I see you anger in your argument, that is the sign that you are not able to argue properly.

    What a great inference!

    BTW, what Karamchedu has to do with Telangana?
    Think twice before throwing counter arguments.
    Cluprits of Karamchedu and Tsundur could be taken to court.
    But what about doras? They are still enjoying the lands.
    Your ramulakka made money by protraying victims of doras. But today in company of same doras to loot Telangana.
    You do not even have guts to accept atrocities committed by doras but talk of expliotation by Kosta-Seema people.

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  70. Before asking us , first question your self about your United Andhra band

    Greenstar the mud-head, u donot understand diversity of opinions. Since KCR gave a call u r following blindly arguing wish of '4 crore people'.

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  71. @Aditya
    This will be the first and last time I am asking you a straight question. If you are willing to respond and maintain decency in your response, then here it is.

    Do you really believe that all andhrites (I mean each person counted) are oppressors, parasites, power hungry morons and no single soul in seemandhra has a balanced view of history ?

    You have spilled so much of venom and hatred against these people and dream big about future telangana state. Keeping andhra bashing aside, don't you think you will eventually end up electing the same bunch of jokers who are sitting in power today ? Do you really think next time around you are gonna bring winds of change because of a new state ?

    I do not know about history but ever since we got our independence, I have not seen one single instance in India where a people movement brought revolutionary changes in to the life of a common man. NO matter how big or small these movements are, the common man continues to suffer. This bashing business is not going to bring the change you would like to see. This will only blur your vision. Period. This blame it all on Andhras strategy may be working for you but in the grand scheme of things, you are shooting your own foot. Mind you.

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  72. God Thank U, ive been almost praying for a Super Cyclone to hit Andhra,
    Finally it seems to be on its way,
    This will be the right time to Block all Highways leading to Seemandhra. It would be like ceiling a flodding "Drianage" to drown the "rats".

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  73. Aditya said:

    Thats a very pessimistic attitude, i believe that U dont think much of "independance" from British too.

    Actually I don't care.Because I was born after independence and I don't know how the things were before Independence.
    But one thing I can assure is that there was not as much corruption as it is today,compared to that was under British rule.

    There are going to major gains for Telengana people more than that gained from Indian independance

    I am still unable to understand how ?
    The govt. jobs that you get after separation will be very limited in number, most of them taken away by T leaders families and their associates.
    And speaking about revenue, how is T state going to make money?.
    The agriculture is poor due to lack of irrigation facilities(This might improve over few years, if the leaders desire it).

    may be notmuch for upper caste middle class people like u and me but huge gains for backwards castes.

    People who are backward will be still backward even after 50 years as long as reservations are based on religion and caste criteria.

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  74. @aditya
    u prayed that cyclon hits andhra???
    okadi baadha chusi edavatam rakshasatvam avutundi.
    dayachesi ala cehyyaku.
    u talked about cultural domination?
    is it your great telangana culture?

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  75. <<<<My American friend after hearing about the agitation and real reason why his team is not able to work called it the Beirut of India and the agitators the people who are dolls in the hands of their demagogues.

    Your "American Friend" seems to be lacking Understanding of the basic tenets of "Geopolitics" and may be the "American Friend" has a habit of In-apropriately Using war-torn Geo political hotspots to decribe the "Militant" movements he cant Understand.
    Your imaginary or real "American friend" may also have Rephrased substituting "Beirut" with Bhagdhad or Belfast but it will be still wrong.

    Beirut is still called Intellectual capital of The Arab world and its considered a "cool place".

    But what happened in Beirut can be termed as systematic ethnic cleansing , Because of the Secterian clashes between various relegious groups, the Christians formed a militant group calleed "Phalagnist" against the majority Shia population, Something like which the great "TG Venakatesh" is suggesting and they got wiped out politically.
    Protests in Berkley were more Militant than OU, and much more violence occured.

    Well if u want "Beirut" we can give u one but as in "Beirut" the loosers will be U.

    I just passed out from B.tech and Im suprised to know more than Ur Dumb Ass "American friend".

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  76. @aditya
    and u talk about telanga tax payers????
    entha madni unnaru enti?
    hope ou jac leaders who, inspite of having an age of 30 still live in hostels for free acomodation.without paying a single rupee fees , they are , in reverse getting "scholar"ships.
    by anmy chance are they paying taxes?
    my sincere advise to my telangan frends is to socially boycot people like aditya who are nothing but inhuman sadists who take pleasure in ridiculing flood victims.

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  77. @@@ Shravan

    <<<Actually I don't care.

    That sums it up. U dont care about "Indian independance" ,"telengana movment".

    U might use some wisdom from the words of Martin Neimoller.

    When the Nazis came for the communists,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a communist.

    When they locked up the social democrats,
    I remained silent;
    I was not a social democrat.

    When they came for the trade unionists,
    I did not speak out;
    I was not a trade unionist.

    When they came for the Jews,
    I remained silent;
    I wasn't a Jew.

    When they came for me,
    there was no one left to speak out.

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  78. <<< u prayed that cyclon hits andhra???
    okadi baadha chusi edavatam rakshasatvam avutundi.


    If you see my previous posts u can find that i Predicted about this Cyclone Scenario. But its becoming real may be some "Divine Intervention" as in the case of Chopper crash or "YSR".
    Iam an Atheist but im startin to believe in god.

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  79. @Aditya:
    What gains will you get from a new state, can you elaborate.

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  80. Shravan,Iam not Your Nanny or elementary teacher, think u are a grown man find out urself.

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  81. @@@Thinkabout

    <<Do you really believe that all andhrites (I mean each person counted) are oppressors, parasites, power hungry morons and no single soul in seemandhra has a balanced view of history ?



    No I dont believe all andhrites are bad or Parasites, I have andhra friends, and the same way I dont believe all Nazis are bad , but that doesnt mean U should kiss and makeup with a nazi. I hate Nazism with all my gut.



    <<Keeping andhra bashing aside, don't you think you will eventually end up electing the same bunch of jokers who are sitting in power today ? Do you really think next time around you are gonna bring winds of change because of a new state ?


    That a very wrong and dangerous attitude called, some may call it Nihilism. I believed there were major gains from Poeples revolutions even failed ones.
    Take Spanish Civil war the good side lost but many good things came out of it. I thik we will be in a lot worse conditions if not for various Movements within India.

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  82. @aditya
    the people of coastal andhra are used to floods and cyclones since 50 yrs just as ppl of rayalaseema&telangana have draughts.
    it doesnt need the foreseeing of a nostradamus like you

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  83. Shravan:

    What gains will you get from a new state, can you elaborate.

    The gains you will get are not going to be immediate. If you are thinking that you will get a better job, better salary, or a better house because of the new state, then you are mistaken. That could also be the reason, why you don’t think the new state will change anything for you because you are measuring it with what you will get immediately.

    When India got freedom from British, things did not change immediately. However, within few years, we got a Constitution, and then India went on industrialization, self sustenance, and we got reforms in politics, social life, and economics. It took many years to get here, but without that first step, of attaining freedom from British, this would not have been possible.

    When Telangana becomes a new state, one of the first few changes will happen in irrigation. Some of the water that flows through Telangana will come to villages and fields of Telangana. That will allow the farmers to become financially secure. A village that has green fields will generate more income for its people. A worker will get more income and will be able to send his kids to school. There will be shops to take care of high earning farmers and workers, and so on.

    When Telangana becomes a new state, we can expect more industry in Telangana. Right now, most of the new industry has not come to the districts. It was very much contained in and around Hyderabad or in Andhra region. More industry means more workers becoming financially secure.

    There are many other things one could discuss, but I guess you get the point. For all this to happen, we have to have self-rule. Telangana under united Andhra Pradesh did not have that.

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  84. Shravan:

    Actually I don't care.

    You should care. Otherwise, how do you expect us to take your questions seriously?

    But one thing I can assure is that there was not as much corruption as it is today,compared to that was under British rule.

    Does that mean we will go back to being under British? Not really. If German government comes to us and says, we will run it for you because we are not corrupt, will we let them run our country? Not really. You should understand the idea of freedom, self-rule, sovereignty, and why they are more important than corruption, weak economy, etc.

    And speaking about revenue, how is T state going to make money?

    How do you think Telangana is making money now? Please take it up as an exercise and try to understand how Telangana region makes money and see if there are any areas of improvement if you can think of that would increase its revenues.

    You are asking many questions. Now it is time you spend some of your time into reading and exploring stuff and do some original thinking. It will do good to Telangana also in the long run.

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  85. Anonymous:

    My American friend after hearing about the agitation and real reason why his team is not able to work called it the Beirut of India and the agitators the people who are dolls in the hands of their demagogues.

    Is your American friend a member of Ku Klux Klan?
    ;-)

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  86. @sujai
    the reason why people from seemandhra migrate to hyd is the same as why you had gone to blore-LIVELIHOOD.
    isnt it an irony that a person like you who is financially sound talks about "injustice" and "opression" while a labourer from kurnool says that his basic survival can be ensured saftey only in combinmed state?
    and a small request-i request you to clarify tho those seeking seperate state NOT to believe that words of politicians(kcr or anyone else) who promised them the heaven.
    i would be very thankful if you write another article about this.

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  87. BTW, what Karamchedu has to do with Telangana?

    What ever you are calling the Doras system is long gone in Telangana, it exists in only in your mind. With out the proofs I can make hundreds of statements on you like this.

    And just like Doras in past in our Telanga, there still Doras kind of culture exists in your Seemandra (only difference is they dont called as Dora), and there are hundreds of incidents where these seemandrad doras used there merciless force on dalits or lower casts.

    Now such people are coming out and giving classes to us about how not to behave with lower casts. Hats off.

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  88. Greenstar the mud-head, u donot understand diversity of opinions. Since KCR gave a call u r following blindly arguing wish of '4 crore people'.

    That is how a mud heads argument goes on. First of all you are still saying division is not acceptable to you, but thinking about your divisions? If you are real fan of 'All telugus must live together' thne even though Telangana left from you, you should not divide but stay together. But I am not seeing that. You ignorants should wake up and talk to your guys, unlike telangana, only a section of Seemandra people want United Andhra, and that too for there money making needs.

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  89. Do you really believe that all andhrites (I mean each person counted) are oppressors, parasites, power hungry morons and no single soul in seemandhra has a balanced view of history ?

    As the same question your self, do you mean all Telangan@ are lazy, drunkers, naxals, talibans, rowdies, gundas?

    you will eventually end up electing the same bunch of jokers who are sitting in power today ?

    Yes, we know, the difference is in Telangan state, there will be no one able to use telangana tax money for Andhra needs, and there will no Andhra@ illegally occupy Telangan reserved job, and we can concentrate on water projects.

    NO matter how big or small these movements are, the common man continues to suffer.

    So, ask yourself why people in the world still doing agitations. Infact you can teach this lesson to United Andhra band, they are too doing the some thing which we call counter agitation.

    you are shooting your own foot. Mind you.

    and seemandra@ didnt realize this when they are garbing telangan resources.

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  90. @aditya
    cotton was an engineer, not a landlord.
    paritala ravi was eulogised only in anatapur district and that too in few parts.
    i too dont exopect much from a person like you who jumps in ahppines when floods occur or statues of great people are burnt.
    (i am targettin only uou.mind it.not the entire telangana community though it has its own share of flaws)

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  91. The govt. jobs that you get after separation will be very limited in number, most of them taken away by T leaders families and their associates.

    I agree with you that we get only limited number of govt jobs. But by forming our state we can stop the Seemandras illegally occupying our Telangana reserved jobs.

    Right now most of the jobs including telangan reserved are taken by Seemandra leaders families and their associates, and this will stop.

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  92. The agriculture is poor due to lack of irrigation facilities(This might improve over few years, if the leaders desire it).

    We dont need extra revenue than what we are making now, if we utilize our revenue by not illegally diverting to Seemandra then we are fine. By the way if you look at AP state revenue, telangana tops the rest of areas even without HYD.

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  93. hope ou jac leaders who, inspite of having an age of 30 still live in hostels for free acomodation.without paying a single rupee fees , they are , in reverse getting "scholar"ships.

    So what you are saying is there are no 30 turned Seemandra students in Osmania and other Universities in Seemandra. Even if there are, they are all saints. I understand it now.

    who are nothing but inhuman sadists who take pleasure in ridiculing flood victims.

    You are seeing this only recently, but what we are seeing for decades is the seemandra inhuman sadists who take pleasure in ridiculing Telangana people who are discriminated by Seemandra.

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  94. What gains will you get from a new state, can you elaborate.

    First you tell me what problems you face by helping the Telangana state formation.

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  95. isnt it an irony that a person like you who is financially sound talks about "injustice" and "opression" while a labourer from kurnool says that his basic survival can be ensured saftey only in combinmed state?

    How does a labor's life changes by Telangana formation? Do you say if Telangana was not merged with Andhar at that time, Andhra would not be survived?

    the reason why people from seemandhra migrate to hyd is the same as why you had gone to blore-LIVELIHOOD.

    How many hundreds of times we have to say that we are no problem with Andhra migration but only problem is illegally occupying Telangana reserved jobs. If you dont understand what is 'Illegally Cooupying Telangana reserved jobs' then please read the reasons for 1969 movement, Bhargava commission report, GO 610 and Girglani Commission report.

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  96. 1969 movement....

    The mulki rules were supposed to end in 1969. So in early 1969 the movement starts................so states wikipedia

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  97. The mulki rules were supposed to end in 1969. So in early 1969 the movement starts................so states wikipedia

    If so, in 1972 why did Supreme Court ruled that Mulki rules are valid? Do you want to say Supreme Court ruling is wrong?

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  98. -- నేను రాసింది ఇది
    Greenstar the mud-head, u donot understand diversity of opinions. Since KCR gave a call u r following blindly arguing wish of '4 crore people'.

    -- నీ సమాధానం ఇది

    That is how a mud heads argument goes on. First of all you are still saying division is not acceptable to you, but thinking about your divisions? If you are real fan of 'All telugus must live together' thne even though Telangana left from you, you should not divide but stay together. But I am not seeing that. You ignorants should wake up and talk to your guys, unlike telangana, only a section of Seemandra people want United Andhra, and that too for there money making needs.

    -- నేను వేర్పాటు గురించి ఏమైనా అన్నానా?
    నీకు తెలిసినదేదో రాసి ఏడు!
    అంతేకాని మీ కెసిఆర్ అన్నట్టు 'శంకరచార్యులుకి పీర్ల పండక్కి ముడిపెట్టకు'

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  99. @GreenStar

    don't jump like a brat and comment on everything.

    Why do you make assumptions?
    Did I say dora system exists now?
    Also did I say no caste discrimination exists in Kosta+Seema?

    All that I wanted to know is why link Karamchedu and Telangana separation?
    Did Kosta+Seema upper catse committed atrocities on Telangana backward castes? Or other way?
    If yes, show me a case. It must be taken to law.
    If no, why your are concerned about caste system in other regions? Especially when you want to separate away?

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  100. Did I say dora system exists now?

    So , why are you bringing dora matters into your argument?

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  101. నువ్వు రాసింది
    Since KCR gave a call u r following blindly arguing wish of '4 crore people'.

    నేను చెప్పేది

    First off all, why do you think every Telangan@ following KCR? If so, why KCR won only 10 MLA seats?

    At the same time I gave you the real picture of your Seemandra United Andhra band, that first off all you are all not united.

    కల్లు తాగిన కోతి పక్కవాడికి సుద్దులు చెప్పటం అంటే ఇదే. తెలంగాణాలో ఉన్న నాయకులందరూ జై తెలంగాణా అంటుంటే మీ సీమంద్రులు కెసిఆర్ మీదనే ఎందుకు ఏడుపు? దేశానికే వేర్పాటు వాదం నేర్పి రెండు సార్లు నడిపిన వేర్పాటు వాదాన్ని మీకు వేర్పాటు వాదం రుచి చూపిస్తే ఎందుకీ ఏడుపు.

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  102. -- నువ్వు అడగాల్సింది ఇది
    First off all, why do you think every Telangan@ following KCR? If so, why KCR won only 10 MLA seats?

    -- మరి ఇది ఎందుకు అడిగావు?
    That is how a mud heads argument goes on. First of all you are still saying division is not acceptable to you, but thinking about your divisions?

    -- ఏ ప్రశ్నకు ఏమి చెప్పాలో ఏమి అడగాలో తెలియదు! టైం దొరికింది కదా అని ఏదో రాస్తూ పోతావు.

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  103. @Greenstar,

    do you know the context in which I posed question to Sujai?
    Sure, you don't know.
    But you interefer just like obnoxious child.

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  104. "God Thank U, ive been almost praying for a Super Cyclone to hit Andhra,
    Finally it seems to be on its way,
    This will be the right time to Block all Highways leading to Seemandhra. It would be like ceiling a flodding "Drianage" to drown the "rats"."
    Maybe it is Telangana culture to derive sadistic pleasure . Yes let somebody's pain thrill you.But let me pray that the Telangana doesn't hit the poor tribals of Warangal and Adilabad.

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  105. ఏ ప్రశ్నకు ఏమి చెప్పాలో ఏమి అడగాలో తెలియదు! టైం దొరికింది కదా అని ఏదో రాస్తూ పోతావు.

    అవునా అన్న ? నేను ఏమి అడగాలో , ఏమి అడగోద్దో కూడా నువ్వే చెపుతావా అన్నా? సరే అన్న , నువ్వు గ్రేటన్న. నువ్వు ఎట్లా జెప్పితే గట్లనేనన్న. రేపటినుంచి సుజయ్ కూడ నీదగ్గర పాటాలు జెప్పిచ్చుకొని నువ్వు జెప్పినదే ఎక్కడ రాస్తాడన్నా. నువ్వు మస్త్ అన్న.

    సమక్యంద్ర ఉద్యమకారులని చెప్పుకునే మీలోనే సమక్యం లేదు, మీరా మాకు చెప్పేది ? పనికి మలినోల్లంతా ఎక్కడికొచ్చి నీలా లొల్లి చేసోటోల్లను చాల మందిని చూసాను. నువ్వు ఒక పేరు పెట్టుకొని తగలడితే ఎవడు ఏమి రాస్తున్నాడో అర్థం అవుతుంది.

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  106. But you interefer just like obnoxious child.

    :)

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  107. Maybe it is Telangana culture to derive sadistic pleasure . Yes let somebody's pain thrill you.But let me pray that the Telangana doesn't hit the poor tribals of Warangal and Adilabad.

    Aditya may be just enjoying in his fantasy world which will not harm anyone, but your Seemandra rulers actually thrilled by doing so many favors to Seemandra where Telangana is suffering with may problems. You just prey for telangan but in actions you always discriminated Telangana.

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  108. Guys,I would like the telangana state to form,no matter what.more than injustice or anything,we have to understand that government is useless in not decentralizing projects and this is resulting in inequality.If pharma and film industries go away from hyd to visakha and some other places,we will be in a better place to live.city is getting crowded with unnecessary people coming to settle in hyderabad,even if their children are living abroad.

    Divide up the state or decentralize industrial sector.
    Not only hyderabad,even bangalore and mumbai are turning out to be this way and I these cities are overburdened.can you go outside of your house and still hope for fresh air.

    Hyd has turned out to be a night mare.
    all of us should take up this issue very seriously.

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  109. బిడ్డా పచ్చ సుక్కా,

    మళ్ళీ మళ్ళీ అదే చెప్తవెం బిడ్డా. నేను సమైఖ్య వాదినని చెప్పినాన? ఆంధ్రోడినని సెప్పినాన?
    అవును బిడ్డా? పచ్చ సుక్క అనేటిది ఏ ప్రాంతంల పేరు? రాములక్క అడవి సుక్క లెక్కనా?

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  110. Sujai
    "One American friend who got to know about our movement called it Berkeley of India."
    He must be one of those nerdy backpacker gay turista bound to deep woods of Columbia for his pot.

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  111. Well atleast " nerdy pot smoking gay guys" dont lynch people becuase of their color. From ur comments i guess are Hompobhobic KKK member or atleast a Teaparty Fanatic.

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  112. Indian govenments investment in Urban Infrastructure is pitifully low , it not even 20% of the Chinese Per capita expenditure on Urban Infra.

    Depopulation of Hyderabd of its "Seemandhra" settlers will do some good by relaxing the pressure on its overextended Infrastrutcture.

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  113. <<< the people of coastal andhra are used to floods and cyclones since 50 yrs just as ppl of rayalaseema&telangana have draughts.
    it doesnt need the foreseeing of a nostradamus like you.


    I mentioned the possibility of a super cyclone hitting Andhra when some overzealous Andhrite mentioned that their is going to be a"Golden Andhra" after seperation, to remind them what a shitty place their homeland is. And to express my concern about Telengana funds being diverted to andhra under the ruse of "Relief".

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  114. @@ Inhuman


    <<< cotton was an engineer, not a landlord.




    Is he a greater "engineer" than Vishewarayya even then do u have to
    Kiss his ass and pray to him like he is a God and call Him "DHORA". That shows ur Slavish Andhra mentality towards British rule.

    <<paritala ravi was eulogised only in anatapur district and that too in few parts.


    I dont think so Ur "great" Andhra leaders like NTR, CBN kissed his ass and Unleashed them like dogs on large tracts of land of Telengana.

    <<i too dont exopect much from a person like you who jumps in ahppines when floods occur or statues of great people are burnt.


    May be u like Imagination to expect anything. I was happy that my personal prediction came real so soon and not that people drown. Even then I dont think its wrong "Didnt Soviet people get happy when the Armies of Third Reich got Slaughtered".

    So far I didnt see any largscale "empathy" from Seemandhra people for Telengana, then U shouldnt expect any smypathy from us when U drown.

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  115. http://www.imd.gov.in/section/satmet/img/sanew.htm

    looks like its on its way.

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  116. atleast according to nasa it will make a land fall.


    http://www.hurricanezone.net/#02s

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  117. @ aditya
    to remind them what a shitty place their homeland is.

    not more than old city, borabanda or dhoolpet.
    do u have to
    Kiss his ass and pray to him like he is a God and call Him "DHORA".

    only few villages in east godavari district did.not like you people who do the same to "kcr dora"

    So far I didnt see any largscale "empathy" from Seemandhra people for Telengana, then U shouldnt expect any smypathy from us when U drown.

    nobody needs your sympathy.but its inhuman to rejoice when someone drowns

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  118. only few villages in east godavari district kept his statue.they celebrate his birth anniversary but that too in a silent way.
    we dont kiss his ass like you do the same to you "kcr dora". nor do we praise the rulers from whom we got freedom like trs leaders.

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  119. and talking about "golden andhra" its none of yur cincern.
    you want the sstate to be divided.wat we do with pur region after it is none of your concern.

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  120. Depopulation of Hyderabd of its "Seemandhra" settlers will do some good by relaxing the pressure on its overextended Infrastrutcture

    suppsoe the local goondas of the non telangana areas where people of telangana have settled think in the same way?

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  121. <<nobody needs your sympathy.but its inhuman to rejoice when someone drowns.


    Then i think it will be OK for u if we block Highways to Stop Andhras seeking Safeheaven in Telengana.

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  122. <<<we dont kiss his ass like you do the same to you "kcr dora". nor do we praise the rulers from whom we got freedom like trs leader

    Are you not contradicting yourself,by praising British rulers.



    <<<suppsoe the local goondas of the non telangana areas where people of telangana have settled think in the same way?

    I guess we have huge populations of Telenganites settled in Vizag or Vijayawada. ( Ur goons didnt allow our people even to "settle" there)

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  123. Didnt you Andhra people mock the deaths of Students who immolated themselves. Then i think it will be OK to joke about Andhras drowning like rats in a gutter.

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  124. Are you not contradicting yourself,by praising British rulers.

    we never did.only few villages, as i mentioned praised cotton that too for designing bridges.he was just an engineer.not a ruler.i think you are grown up enough to understand the difference between those two.

    I guess we have huge populations of Telenganites settled in Vizag or Vijayawada


    non telangana area could be anywhere in the world.why did u just take the names of two cities you should ony know?

    Didnt you Andhra people mock the deaths of Students who immolated themselves

    we never did.in fact in vizag students held condolence meeting for yadaiah.we mocked those who died for YSRs death.
    we criticized your leaders for instigating emotions.

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  125. Anonymous, నీకు ఒక పేరు ఏడిస్తే కదా, శత కోటి లింగాలలో నువ్వు ఎ లింగానివి ? బోడి లింగానివా?

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  126. Guess during the Condolence meet of Yadiah U discussed about various Conspiracy theories about how TRS paid him money to commit suicide.


    <<< we criticized your leaders for "instigating" emotions.

    By "instigation" do you mean spreading awareness about the Injustices we suffered.

    when the British Crushed the revolt of 1857 they described the Resistance fighters as "Religious Fanatics". No surprise when u call the OU students "goons".

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  127. For Those Who Still Argue on History....here is something from TIME Weekly Magazine on December 29, 1952.

    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,822565,00.html

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  128. page not found history
    gud one.

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  129. Good question: "why reject Sriramulu?"

    Answer: we don't reject him, he means nothing to us. He may be one of the thousands of great Indiabns but we are as much related to him as Khushwant Singh, Bhimsen Joshi etc.

    We do reject the foisting of Sriramulu on us and the falsehood that accompanies such attempts.

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  130. @aditya:

    "page not found history
    gud one."


    This shows how you can quickly jump to conclusions without doing your homework.

    Finally just to satisfy your ego, let me accept that we are just mere mortals and are really obliged for you for letting us live in Hyderabad and doing our work. Thank you very much Sir for your kindness, please let us know what else you want us to confess.


    Sujai says that OU should be really proud of the revolution. Thank you Sir Sujai for this greatest contribution of OU for the mankind. ON the other hand OU should be really proud of its professors who teach students that "THE SHORT CUT TO THEIR SUCCESS IS TELANGANA".

    Have your own state and chase out all the Andhras from your state. Before doing that if you have any rationality in your mind PROVE ALL THE ALLEGATIONS YOU MADE ON THE ANDHRAs.

    PLEASE DEFINE HOW ANDHRAs LOOTED YOUR TELANGANA.

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  131. No surprise when u call the OU students "goons".

    Dont forget, they even tried to mask OU with naxal face, their govt. event went to Hi-Court with false evidences about naxal involvement and busted by Judge.

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  132. PROVE ALL THE ALLEGATIONS YOU MADE ON THE ANDHRAs.

    And we did that hundreds of times in this blog, read back the old posts/comments.

    We are not sitting here wide open so that we can start explaining from scratch to who ever wokeup from United Andhra band.

    In a short you can start read about Gentlemen Agreement, Presidential Order, Bhargava commission report, GO610, Girglani commission report etc.

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  133. @@@Vamsi

    <<<<Finally just to satisfy your ego, let me accept that we are just mere mortals and are really obliged for you for letting us live in Hyderabad and doing our work. Thank you very much Sir for your kindness, please let us know what else you want us to confess.


    We never asked Andhras to Kiss Telengana Asses we are just askin "leave us alone" or else we have to Kick ur asses.

    WTF about homework if u dont have enough IQ to do a smiple copy and paste job dont mind replying to me.

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  134. Anonymous, నీకు ఒక పేరు ఏడిస్తే కదా, శత కోటి లింగాలలో నువ్వు ఎ లింగానివి ? బోడి లింగానివా?

    నువ్వు పచ్చ చుక్క అని పెట్టుకున్నావు.
    నేను నల్ల చెక్క అని పెట్టుకుంటా.
    అప్పుడు మనమిద్దరం ఏ లింగాలం అవుతాము?

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  135. Bull shit this pink guys sujai is not at all a supporter of Andhra..waste fellow

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  136. time to drive out chandana brothers,J C brothers,tummidi brothers,bommana brothers,

    and all kamma rascals from bezawada

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  137. "Potti Sriramulu has not fought for Telangana or its people. "
    Gandhi too never fought for Hyderabad or Telangana.IS he not revered,he died before Hyderabad state merger? Do you've the grudge against him ?

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  139. <<<<.Have you heard of any Indian partnering with Britisher and taking part in the freedom struggle.I'm drawing a blank.


    Well I Heard of Ghandhi actively partnering with British (eg: serving in Boers war,supporting against germans in ww2,etc) and not only taking part but actually Leading Freedom Stuggle.

    Really ur head is blank.

    BURN........

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  140. @@@ Andhra nameless cowards

    If u cant fight intellectual battels dont degrade int to slinging mud at Personal Reputation.

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  141. "If u cant fight intellectual battels dont degrade int to slinging mud at Personal Reputation."
    How is it personal? All the information is public and is freely available on the websites you can get it yourself . It is not personal,sorry.When so many students died for Telangana,is it their personal affair? They fought for a cause dear to them.They sacrificed their lives at the altar of their goal. They are real heros.Not the leaders,demagogues who poisoned the minds of Telangana youth while they carry on their own gains.No leader is ready to sacrifice anything,but expect people to revolt against people from other regions.

    When you direct your ire at a particular region and go hammer and tongs advocating burning of statues and talk the ceaseless subjugation of Telangana by all the Andhra public and how each Andhraite is responsible for the plight of Telangana for,it is my right to ask him how he feels .. Will you agree if KCR openly does business with Lagadapati?It is his personal affair but would not raise your eye brow.Certainly I'd pop my eyes open.You sit in ivory towers socializing with the very people you want your readers to hate. What is it?

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  142. <<<<When you direct your ire at a particular region and go hammer and tongs advocating burning of statues and talk the ceaseless subjugation of Telangana by all the Andhra public and how each Andhraite is responsible for the plight of Telangana .


    I never advocated burning of Statues that would be foolish i always said smash them Using hammers.



    << if KCR openly does business with Lagadapati?It is his personal affair but would not raise your eye brow.Cert.


    I think more than 90 percent of TRS party funds comes from Andhra Businessmen, as Protection money. You people "own" most of the business in AP u could just Boycott all business dealings with him if u are serious about saymykhandhra.

    <<. It is not personal,sorry.When so many students died for Telangana,is it their personal affair? They fought for a cause dear to them.They sacrificed their lives at the altar of their goal. They are real heros.

    Crocodile tears from those who Mocked the death of students, called them naxals, goons U are the definition of the word "Hypocrite" in its truest sense.

    Having a "Andhra" business partner doesnot mean he has to condone Injustices done by them,
    Henry Ford had German Business Partners that didnt stop him from contributing to war effort to Crush Nazis.

    I know many who have "Andhra" life-partner, that didnt stop them from fighting for Telengana.

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  143. Gandhi too never fought for Hyderabad or Telangana.IS he not revered,he died before Hyderabad state merger? Do you've the grudge against him ?

    Nope, but if you use Gandhi pictures/statues for your United Andhra camp, and keep saying that because of his scarifies today we have this Andhra Pradesh, then yes, you may see some rejects from Telangana towards Gandhi.

    For many years no one did anything wrong to Potti, it is only happening after you started using Potti's status for your political gains. First you guys should apologize to Potti for using him for your political gains.

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  144. During the British rule Indians didn't partner with British and fought them.

    As of I remember the history, forces of British used on Independence agitators are Indians, many of British Raj. Govt. employees are Indians, and British rule too had assembly, parliament etc. where people can elect there candidates.

    Many of them worked under British till there rule ended, I dont think they didn't wanted British to stay even thought they are working under British.

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  145. They are real heros.Not the leaders,demagogues who poisoned the minds of Telangana youth while they carry on their own gains.

    I dont agree that our leaders poisoned the minds of Telangana youth, there are no suicides before United Andhra band started there fake agitation. There are many died both sides only after they started the counter agitation, this clearly proves they are there reason for all suicides in Andhra Pradesh.

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  146. Will you agree if KCR openly does business with Lagadapati?

    So, what difference it makes to our agitation? Do you know how much percentage of Telangana is behind him? I strongly feel that even thought it is less percentage who voted him, they voted him just for Telangan but not because he is handsome or something else.

    As I said hundreds of times before Seemandra wants to deal with only KCR because they want fight not a solution.

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  147. >>Will you agree if KCR openly does business with Lagadapati?

    Here why you pop your eyes only towards KCR and why not towards Lagadapati? May be he is doing all this to secure his properties in telangana and behind the scenes he has close relationship with KCR?

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  148. >>I never advocated burning of Statues that would be foolish i always said smash them Using hammers.

    :)

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  149. Sujai,

    I came across another blog of yours 'Are you Rational?'.
    I really could not assess myself.
    I think you can help understand rational thinking by some example.

    Please explain rationality in accepting or rejecting the following statement.

    As per the above analysis the Telangana people have lost near about 2.5 lakhs employment opportunities during these 53 years of combined State.

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  150. Prabhakar,

    I would like to read that analysis, could you please point me to where you read this, I am sure I read it before, but not able to recollect it.

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  151. Hope "JAL" doesnt disappoint tomorrow, may be it will do to Andhras what WW2 did to British.

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  152. "I know many who have "Andhra" life-partner, that didnt stop them from fighting for Telengana."
    When you criticize Andhras and talk about subjugation and have a partner- life or in business.That is sheer hypocrisy in its raw form.
    Aurobindo Ghosh,Subaschandra Bose who were ICS officers resigned to their posts and joined freedom movement. In my research I've not come across any freedom fighter who had a British partner.They had some principles.

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  153. "Hope "JAL" doesnt disappoint tomorrow, may be it will do to Andhras what WW2 did to British."
    Let's hope it won't do any harm to Telangana people.Atleast Andhras are used to such calamities and have survival skills and resiliency.

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  154. "Well I Heard of Ghandhi actively partnering with British (eg: serving in Boers war,supporting against germans in ww2,etc) and not only taking part but actually Leading Freedom Stuggle."
    Gandhiji inspite of leading freedom struggle didn't advocate hatred against the British. The fact that he partnered with British showed how non-violent the movement was.Not the way these demi-leaders rail against the people of Andhras.

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  155. The fact that he partnered with British showed how non-violent the movement was.

    Gandhi style worked on British but may not work on Nazi. So, what's your point?

    And who are those demi-leaders who rail against the people of Andhras.

    I know few Seemandra leaders who actually called Telangana people using words like Naxal, Taliban and many like that.

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  156. Greenstar

    http://www.simplytelangana.com/2010/10/15/trs-full-report-to-srikrishna-committee

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  157. Think stealing land and jobs of Telengana people doesnt count as "survival skills" , anyway we will test your "survival skills" after dec31st. Think "mother nature" is on our side u will get ur ass whipped tomorrow.

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  158. Anonymous:
    When you criticize Andhras and talk about subjugation and have a partner- life or in business. That is sheer hypocrisy in its raw form.

    That does not reflect hypocrisy, instead it reflects that the people who are fighting this fight are principled, that they are not targeting any selected individuals, that their fight is against the rule of Andhras. They are not fighting Andhra rule as a group, not targeting any individual in particular. As individuals they are quite OK to be friends, to be life-partners or business partners. Instead of celebrating this fact, you are childishly thinking that it is hypocrisy.

    Aurobindo Ghosh,Subaschandra Bose who were ICS officers resigned to their posts and joined freedom movement. In my research I've not come across any freedom fighter who had a British partner.They had some principles.

    But Gandhi was friends with many British people and some of them were his disciples. He did not kick them out just because they happen to be British. Indians embraced any foreigner who was sympathetic to their cause, even the British.

    Ambedkar took up his fight against upper caste Hindus but married one of them. His marriage to an upper caste woman did not stop him from continuing his campaign for emancipating lower castes from the suppression and oppression of upper caste Hindus.

    Your thinking is childish. It is immaturity on your part to assume that people are so narrow in their thinking that no Andhra person can sympathize with the cause of Telanganas. They are many Seemandhra people who are quite sympathetic to Telangana cause. So, should a Telangana person abjure relationship and friendship even with those Seemandhras, just because they happen to be from Seemandhra?

    And even if an Andhra person does not sympathize with your cause, does it mean you have to hate him? and renounce the friendship? Don’t friends disagree? Do wife and husband always get along on all issues? Your incessant questions on topic only show how you immature and narrow you are in your thinking.

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  159. Every T supporter has a right to espouce a separate T. Every united state supporter has a right to a united state.

    Sujai is a T protagonist....one among many. The fact that he has started a blog for himself should not make his antagonists focus on him as an individual. Let us appreciate him for making his blog open. Let us refrain from directing our argument against his personal life. Any arguments against T have to be directed against the concept of T and not on the individuals advocating it.

    Personally I have no advantage of being a 'united state' supporter, which I am. I am not a politician, not a farmer from Krishna/Guntur, not expecting Govt jobs etc. Yet I have been supporting a united state solely for my emotional reasons.

    What do I lose if T is formed.....nothing really. It makes no difference to me and crores of people in hyd or Andhra-seema. Those who hail from andhra-seema will continue to have relatives there, continue to visit their 'home-towns', continue to have their lands, grow crops etc. The only difference will be that Govt jobs will be headquarted in some other town. Nothing is going to stop them from coming to Hyd for jobs. Nothing is going to stop companies from going to their campuses for recruitments. And nothing will happen to those who have been here for 60 years or 60 days. To the average Hyderabadi like me, nothing will change....not even my address since we don't mention our state anyway!!
    Continued below...

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  160. I agree that 50 years ago Andhra Rajus and Kammas invested heavily in factories etc in Hyderabad and took a risk. They have played a part in the growth of Hyderabad but they have got their returns for it. They would have invested in Kalahandi if that was the capital of AP. We have to give their due credit but that's the end of it.
    I fully accept that MBNR, Nalgonda have been denied their share of water for about 50 years. To any 'outsider' seeing MBNR interiors was always a shock since the Krishna river traverses thru this district. But I blame the MBNR politicans for it and not the Andhra politicians who pushed their case. Srikakulam was a similar case for 45 years! I reject the argument that Guntur/Krishna 'STOLE' the Krishna water. They lobbied for projects that benefited them. Who stopped the Seema politicians from lobbying or the T people from lobbying. Never in these 55 years was there a whimper of protest/agitation/dharna by MBNR politiciands for projects on the Krishna. Even if 10% of the efforts put on the 69 agitation was put forth, the district would have been like Guntur !.

    Honestly I care too hoots if Krishna and Guntur farmers don't get water. They have benefitted for years and it is time for others to get their due share. Even today most of the water flows into the sea.

    you rarely found Telangana people in Govt jobs in the 70s/80s. But why blame the Andhras? Lack of education in T ( except Hyd) was the reason. The legacy of Urdu was the culprit. Jobs were not 'stolen'. They were not taken by T people for reasons historical and attitudinal( of leaders. In the 70s - 80's you found Andhra people in all govt departments....but any 'Andhra' person knows that this was restricted to a few communities from 4-5 districts. The rest of the people even there could not make it. 'Stolen' is the wrong word. T people should refrain from using it.

    I still believe that things have been changing for T distrcits and for Andhra backward (suppressed?) districts in the last 10 years for the better and things will only improve. Equality of resources is happening because of the emergence of political strength in all districts beyond Krishna/Guntur/EG/WG.

    Observe that the maximum anti- T is from these distrcits.

    I accept many arguments of Sujai except his concept of 'self-rule'. That has no meaning and will never exist even in a separate T.

    Like most people from Andhra-Seema I would like a united state. But if T is formed then good luck to Sujai and others.

    Until then let us help unemployed BTechs like Aditya get a job so that he can learn a few things.

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  161. @sadistya

    think "mother nature" is on our side u will get ur ass whipped tomorrow.

    as if floods never occured in telangana region???


    yes, mother nature is on your side since you are not on the coastal belt


    and what do you mean on "your side"???
    are the flood waters going to irrigate your parched lands?


    grow up dude.

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  162. @sadistya

    talking about survival skills, i also dont thik that bashing up teachers and abusing judges dont come under that category

    what about completing your education, that too a technical course like btech, not having a proper job to do, sitting at home idly and filling up blogs with nonsense daily.
    does it come under "living skills"

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  163. <<< Who stopped the Seema politicians from lobbying or the T people from lobbying.


    Iam shocked that you are shamelessly advocating "lobbying", You dont need to "lobby" to enjoy your "Inalienable Human Rights". Lobbying has always been the purview of the Rich and Oppressors, Civil rights or Universal suffrage were not gained through "lobbying" but through "agitations".
    Telengana people were never good with "lobbying" and didnt have the Cunning "Back-door"(lobbying==dhoddi dhari) Talents of their Andhra neighbours. We will regain our Rights not through "lobbying" but through "agitations" that may be "Unpleasant" or even "violent" to your Andhra people.

    Forgive Us unemployed youths of Telengana for wasting our energies and time with these mindless "agitations" rather than enriching our minds by being pre-occupied with your"intellectualy Challenging" Andhra movies.

    I appreciate your offer but "no thanks" iam going to be a employed MS this Spring.

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  164. <<< talking about survival skills, i also dont thik that bashing up tea job to do, sitting at home idly and filling up blogs with nonsense daily.
    does it come under "living skills"




    well it takes real "skill" to piss off busy employed andhras like u so much that u name urself "anti-me". I dont know what kind of skills u do or dont have but onething you certainly dont have is "Creative writing skills". Guess dad sent you to one of those crappy "grammar Schools" and thought u would learn some quality english.

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  165. @sadistya

    Guess dad sent you to one of those crappy "grammar Schools" and thought u would learn some quality english.

    nenu nee antha sound party kaadu babu. "backward region" lo undi kooda foreign velle antha dabbulu levu naa daggara.
    edo veedhi badilo chadivaa.

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  166. sarey sir, Andhra backward region, grammar schoolu veedhey badulu.

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  167. Sujai do U think "dialogue" with andhra people will yield any results when they are not ready to accept any ground realities. Do you think the use of "force" is the only language they can understand under the current circumstances.

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  168. @Aditya

    Thanks for your fanatical support for the cause of Telangana. However the hate and venom in your heart for your fellow Andhra's will be a bane for yourself.

    I'm an atheist, however I believe in karmic philosophy. No one can escape the fruits of his karma. Even I'm from Telangana, however I don't hate my fellow Andhra people. On the other hand I admire some intellectual and hard-working capabilities of
    some of them.

    I agree that there is some injustice done to Telangana. However the question is to determine if this is
    statistically significance. Lets as Telangana brothers stop making qualitative remarks about injustice. I suggest invest your energy in building an hypothesis test on the irrigation data and show that you have statistical evidence.

    Finally on the grounds of self-pride as a person being from the Telangana region my emotions force me to accept it. However if I look at self-pride from an objective mind it seems to me that I'm being misled.

    Finally please stop from wishing bad luck to others (e.g. the 'JAL' cyclone). You don't know what unfortunate thing might show up in your life because of this thought.

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  169. @Indrasena,

    wise words on wishing bad luck for others.

    Reg. other points
    You do not support Telangana separation? Then you cannot be Telanganite, even if your mother vouches for it.

    The statistical part of expliotation is presented by more than one intellectual of Telangana.

    You know why we are sptting venom?
    We failed to convince anybody about rationality and statistical significance. We resort to abusing and venom sptting as it is easy to provoke otherside. Also it helps milead ourside easily.

    Hope our strategy is clear.

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  170. @@@ Andhrasena

    <<< statistically significance. Lets as Telangana brothers stop making qualitative remarks about injustice. I suggest invest your energy in building an hypothesis test on the irrigation data and show that you have statistical evidence.



    U and I are not qualified to do that,but it was already done by many economists and social scientists of telengana.
    Einstien defined Insanity as doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. May be u belong to that same category.


    <<I'm an atheist, however I believe in karmic philosophy.

    I have real trouble believing that u sound more like a superstitious Old Hag.



    There is no room for dialogue now it will be only possible after a show of "force" by Telenganites, and "violence" seems to be the only thing Seemandhras might Understand.

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  171. @Aditya
    There is no room for dialogue now it will be only possible after a show of "force" by Telenganites, and "violence" seems to be the only thing Seemandhras might Understand.


    I will say "Bring it On".....

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  172. @Andhrite


    Some Tvadis might say it will be "happily every after" and Andhras dont have to worry after Telengana formation, but the reality is that "settlers" will recieve treatment the same way they have treated Telengana people. We will mock ur Slang,culture and discrimination of Andhras will be institutionalised, with no power u will be sitting ducks for our fury.

    <<Bring it on

    Hope "Settlers" will maintain the same Cocky attitude on streets of Telengana, we will not "Disappoint" you after dec31st.

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  173. POK, I dont agree with few points which you mentioned, please read below.

    They lobbied for projects that benefited them. Who stopped the Seema politicians from lobbying or the T people from lobbying.
    Wrong argument. Are you saying, in a democratic country a government which elected by all people will serve only to a section of a region people who lobbied more. This will be a dangerous practice if it was happened so far. This means denying the fundamental right which was given by our constitution.

    Never in these 55 years was there a whimper of protest/agitation/dharna by MBNR politicians for projects on the Krishna.
    So does in any are in AP, but it is known that without such agitations/protest/dharna few sections of regions getting enough(or more?) projects.

    Even if 10% of the efforts put on the 69 agitation was put forth, the district would have been like Guntur !.
    69 agitation was focused on illegal distribution of funds and govt jobs, here funds means projects too. We dont have any records to prove whether that illegal distribution of funds was corrected or not because the department which supposed to look after the accounts of funds collected/spent in Telangan was de-commissioned after the 69 agitation. And about the jobs, looks like that one too was not corrected, if they have been corrected then why did NTR passed 610GO. So, my conclusion is even though the 1969 agitation was focussed on projects, the out come would have been same like how I explained above.

    The legacy of Urdu was the culprit.
    As of I remembered, in merging agreements, Andhras accepted to continue using urdu in Telangan areas govt. offices till Telanga is comfortable with Telugu and English.

    Lack of education in T ( except Hyd) was the reason.
    This argument was bought by Seemandra@ to cover there mess. What was the population of the Telangan at that time? How many educated people do you need to run govt. offices? I believe even if there is 10% educated people in Telangan, this would be sufficient to run govt. offices. If there are not enough educated people I wonder how did Hyderabad state was managing there govt office before the merge? Before the 1972 there was no zonal system so govt. can recruit any telangan person for any other area govt post in Telangana. Mulki rules restricts only non gazetted jobs which requires very little eduction.

    Lets assume your argument is correct that there are not enough people to run govt jobs in Telangan. But same time it is illegal to recruit a Seemandra@ for a non gazetted job in Telangana. How come a govt itself go out law or break a law. If the situation is that serious then this matter would have been discussed in state assembly, after the assembly acceptance govt should give a paper statements and if there are no protest then they would have been pass a GO then start recruiting Seemandra@ for telangana jobs. But you and me know this wasnt happened. Why?

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  174. POK, I dont agree with few points which you mentioned, please read below.

    They lobbied for projects that benefited them. Who stopped the Seema politicians from lobbying or the T people from lobbying.
    Wrong argument. Are you saying, in a democratic country a government which elected by all people will serve only to a section of a region people who lobbied more. This will be a dangerous practice if it was happened so far. This means denying the fundamental right which was given by our constitution.

    Never in these 55 years was there a whimper of protest/agitation/dharna by MBNR politicians for projects on the Krishna.
    So does in any are in AP, but it is known that without such agitations/protest/dharna few sections of regions getting enough(or more?) projects.

    Even if 10% of the efforts put on the 69 agitation was put forth, the district would have been like Guntur !.
    69 agitation was focused on illegal distribution of funds and govt jobs, here funds means projects too. We dont have any records to prove whether that illegal distribution of funds was corrected or not because the department which supposed to look after the accounts of funds collected/spent in Telangan was de-commissioned after the 69 agitation. And about the jobs, looks like that one too was not corrected, if they have been corrected then why did NTR passed 610GO. So, my conclusion is even though the 1969 agitation was focussed on projects, the out come would have been same like how I explained above.

    Continued below. ...

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  175. The legacy of Urdu was the culprit.
    As of I remembered, in merging agreements, Andhras accepted to continue using urdu in Telangan areas govt. offices till Telanga is comfortable with Telugu and English.

    Lack of education in T ( except Hyd) was the reason.
    This argument was bought by Seemandra@ to cover there mess. What was the population of the Telangan at that time? How many educated people do you need to run govt. offices? I believe even if there is 10% educated people in Telangan, this would be sufficient to run govt. offices. If there are not enough educated people I wonder how did Hyderabad state was managing there govt office before the merge? Before the 1972 there was no zonal system so govt. can recruit any telangan person for any other area govt post in Telangana. Mulki rules restricts only non gazetted jobs which requires very little eduction.

    Lets assume your argument is correct that there are not enough people to run govt jobs in Telangan. But same time it is illegal to recruit a Seemandra@ for a non gazetted job in Telangana. How come a govt itself go out law or break a law. If the situation is that serious then this matter would have been discussed in state assembly, after the assembly acceptance govt should give a paper statements and if there are no protest then they would have been pass a GO then start recruiting Seemandra@ for telangana jobs. But you and me know this wasnt happened. Why?

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  176. talking about survival skills, i also dont thik that bashing up teachers and abusing judges dont come under that categor

    If bashing up teachers is bad then what do you call that seemandra teachers intentionally failed over 20,000 intermediate students because they are from telangan? and among them one poor girl committed suicide because she is not able to bear the humiliation of getting zero marks(actually she scored 80%)

    and about abusing Judge, may be not this level but your seemandra leaders using same violent methods in the name of hi-court bench for seemandra. Just now I read the news that they fight them selves about go/no-go for violent path.

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  177. use of "force" is the only language they can understand under the current circumstances.

    by the way that was one of the reason how they got the Andhra state formation statement from Nehru,... using force, destroying/burning down govt. properties, busses, trains etc.

    That is how they crushed the telangan agitation by killing over 350.

    That is how they bought the Indira to her knees in 1972 agitation and accept there demands.

    And that is how they bought the Sonia to her knees and made her to delay the telangan formation in 2009.

    They never achieved any thing with peaceful methods, and it is funny that they keep claim themselves that they are followers of Gandhi and Potti Sree Ramulu.

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  178. A lunatic called TG venkatesh upped the Ante by forming a private vigilante army, i think we have to confront forces like these we have to take help from retired Telengana armed forces personnel to form district level units of 1000 or so men to Spearhead the agitation by paralysing govt machinery.

    Social boycott of andhra settlers will be difficult to carryout in places like Hyderabad but it will be easy in places like Karimnagar or Nizamabad.

    If we dont jumpstart the agitation soon with full vigor it will be "dead" .

    Making UT of Hyd is impossible unless they extend its borders to nalgonda, but people of nalgonda are vehemently opposed to it.
    Even if central govt is willing to take such stupid decision it is going to give new life to the long dead Naxal movement in North Telengana, because of the disatisffaction it will cause among the youth there.

    some violent "incident" takes place to which seemandhrites respond and in-turn invites massive retaliation by Telenganites on Settlers will be a plausible scenario we can expect.

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  179. Hey Aditya dear

    Looks like you are living in a fantasy world . Didnt old city muslims (who identify themselves as Hyderabadis and not Telanganites) showed you guys "your aukaat" in the recent riots. What happened to you and your fellow TG goons courage then ?

    And also to recap history when razakars where butchering you guys like dogs ,dont forget it was the andhras who came to your aid.

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  180. Making UT of Hyd is impossible unless they extend its borders to nalgonda,
    This is not going to happen, UPA need BJP support for any decision either it is Telangan or HYD-UT. And BJP is against to HYD-UT proposal, expressed many times.

    And also to recap history when razakars where butchering you guys like dogs ,dont forget it was the andhras who came to your aid.
    May be that is what said in Andhra version of History. But in India version of history, V.Patel stated that Telangana freedom fighters made Indian army's job very easy, it is because of Telangan fighters who take care of local Nizam force so Indian army never faced a real battle with Nizam forces. On other side Burgula letter to Nehru mentiond that (wikipedia) when many Nizam state residents went to neighbour states to escape from razakars, other states like Karnataka, Maharastra officers take care these people well but not the Andhra officers didn't. It was not the Andhra came for Telangan, it is India'n govt.. You are small part of Indian govt,. but not that you are the Indian govt.

    who identify themselves as Hyderabadis and not Telanganites
    Wrong, not only muslims but many of the Hyderabad residents identify themselves as Hyderabadis, infact many of the Telangan@ who living outside of the state introduce themselves to other desis as Hyderabadi.


    And also to recap history when razakars where butchering you guys like dogs

    Dont forget your history too, Nizam sold you guys to British like slaves(or like Prostitu***?).

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  181. Greenstar dont waste ur time explaining things to the these Andhra retards. If there must be any discussion it must be among US Tvadhis.

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  182. @Aditya
    Some Tvadis might say it will be "happily every after" and Andhras dont have to worry after Telengana formation, but the reality is that "settlers" will recieve treatment the same way they have treated Telengana people. We will mock ur Slang,culture and discrimination of Andhras will be institutionalised, with no power u will be sitting ducks for our fury.

    <<Bring it on

    Hope "Settlers" will maintain the same Cocky attitude on streets of Telengana, we will not "Disappoint" you after dec31st.



    Keep Dreaming... and wake up on or after Dec 31st... Escapists like can do no more than that...

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  183. @sadistya
    recent;y a telangana friend asked me for some financial help and i gave it to him with no second thought.
    typical example of gandhigiri vs gundagiri
    by the way i think jal disappointed you by not causing destruction to the extent you wished.im sure even dec 23rd u turn statement might not have disheartned you so much.
    ayina deshanni avdili velevaadivi neekenduku babu ikkadi vishayalu?
    i sincerely wish your local senator in usa has some issues with a well to do Indian businessman and gives some sort of bhago jago statement and YOU become his first target.
    i pray that it happens

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  184. i rephrase my statements,
    i wish that when you become the target of that senators madness, or any other problem in usa, an andhra person comes to your rescue
    i pray this happens.

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  185. @@Inhuman

    <<<recent;y a telangana friend asked me for some financial help and i gave it to him with no second thought.
    typical example of gandhigiri vs gundagiri


    think your act of lending some money to a friend is the greatest "act of human kindness" ever witnessed in history, U must be recommended for Nobel Peace Prize

    Shame on you, unlike u i dont see distinctions between my friends on regional grounds. U are feeling as if u donated a Kidney to your friend , ill be happy if u just wont fleece him with interest rates.


    <<<i sincerely wish your local senator in usa has some issues with a well to do Indian businessman and gives some sort of bhago jago statement and YOU become his first target.

    They can Kick me out whenever they choose to, iam not a us citizen but still i will be grateful to them for giving me a opportunity unlike ungrateful "andhra settlers".


    <<ayina deshanni avdili velevaadivi neekenduku babu ikkadi vishayalu?

    Nuvvu andhra settler gadivi neekenduku Telengana vishayalu.

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  186. @sadistya
    U are feeling as if u donated a Kidney to your friend , ill be happy if u just wont fleece him with interest rates.

    dont worry, im not a "seth" who stays in sultan bazar to charge intrest.i have already written off that amount mentally and will never ask him again.and regarding distinction, thats exactly wat im trying to say.I NEVER DISCRIMINATED-its YOU who have done by constantly abusing people.

    They can Kick me out whenever they choose to, iam not a us citizen but still i will be grateful to them for giving me a opportunity

    whop it stops with just kicking and not tongue cutting (kcr style.u used the word grateful-so in case u get assaulted, ull praise the one who had done so?

    Nuvvu andhra settler gadivi neekenduku Telengana vishayalu
    cos i always considered telangana as part of MY COUNTRY and MY STATE.
    not as a no man's land.
    till now i considered you as a freak, but the moment u mentioned that you are a would be nri(non responsible Indian), i just cant stop being emotional.
    i had got i20 from 3 universities but still i choose to remain here just because i love mother India and every inch of it including telangan.unlike you, who doesnt have the guts to remain here and runs off to some land and kisses whites but still brags nonsense about opression and injustice.if u love your land so much, the least you can do is to stay here. this applies EVEN to people from my region who have migrated to foreign.
    NRIs are the biggest blots to Indian society
    and u said about social boycott.please do that while kcr and lagadapati have gay sex in a bed surroundeed with paper notes

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  187. <<dont worry, im not a "seth" who stays in sultan bazar to charge intrest.


    A "seth" fleeces people only "financially" but you belong to a Parasitic class of "Andhra settlers" who fleece telengana of Land,water,jobs,Culture,language and lives.

    <<i had got i20 from 3 universities but still i choose to remain here just because i love mother India

    Think u got i20's from crappy univs and didnt get a visa. even if wat u said is true it doesnt make U dont become patriotic by staying here and stealing Telengana people.
    I dint think there is a scale for patriotitsm. Supporting telengana movement is patriotic in its own way.

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  188. >>recent;y a telangana friend asked me for some financial help and i gave it to him with no second thought.
    typical example of gandhigiri vs gundagiri

    One of my Andhra@ helped me in my career few years back, I remember that and I helped in financial matters to him many times by now, he still owes me huge amount of money and still gave him some more few weeks back. By the way that guy is hard core Samakyavadi, and we keep debate about this issue every weekend or when ever we met, we end our debate with few beers and relax. We both know nothing will change for us by Telangana formation, but we both are passion about what we believe. We keep our debate and personal relationship apart. Infact my wife is from Gannavaram. But none of these reasons stop me from fighting for Telangana. I dont think giving money to a friend in need is Gandhi giri. Before telanganaite you are human and helping your friends is your responsibility.

    By the way I do have pakistani friends, and we keep debate about Hindutva and Muslim, and struggle between them. But we still work together every day without denting our relationship.

    Dont pose as god by helping your friend (it doesnt matter if he/she is from Telangana, pakistan or bangladesh).

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  189. >>i had got i20 from 3 universities but still i choose to remain here just because i love mother India

    Hmmmm....So why did you applied in the first place. Smells fishy ..

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  190. >>this applies EVEN to people from my region who have migrated to foreign.

    If telanganaites feel only telangana is there land then they too can justify kicking Andhraites out using same logic you applied.

    The definition of 'our land' keeps changing by time. Before british I dont know whats our land, I am not sure whats our prince's boundaries. In Birish time Including current pakistan and bangladesh is also our lands, after independence current india is our land , god knows what happens in future, may be south india becames a country and we call it part as our land.

    If you love your land so much, why didnt you broke off from Madras? that one too your land, right?

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  191. @manam
    thats exactly wat i was trying to emphasize.
    see a person as a human being and his/her qualities and NOT by his caste/religion, region, etc.
    please say it to perverts like aditya

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  192. @manam

    aditya wished that coastal andhra is washed away by cyclone while i replied tht i helped my frends irrespective of their regions
    i was trying to emphasize the difference in the outlooks
    and regarding why i applied, i had to do so because of certain personal obligations but i choose to stay back.

    anyway, all the statements given by aditya are extremely immatured and meaningless without any logical basis whatsoever

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  193. we have to stop Polavaram from getting "national status" by any means. It will be the first step towards reasserting our rights.

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  194. i was trying to emphasize the difference in the outlooks

    If you ask me, you should look yourself before pointing us.

    Some time back when I was hearing a lecture about encryption, some one pointed that 'if we all stop stealing each others data then this world doesnt need encryption technologies' immediately the host said that 'it is good to be true, but unfortunately world doesnt work that way'. Another example is if you look at Indian independence or any other movement in the world, there is always a extremist side. Dont forget about Bhagat Singh who trowed a bomb in to the assembly which is filled with indian's people representatives(his intentions are to scare but not to harm any one, and none harmed in that event). Even though that was a violent act we still respect Bhagat because we all know, for what cause he did that. Netaji join hands with 'axes of evil', but we still respect him because we know his ultimate goal. We always proudly say Gandhi used satyagraha method on British to win over them and Potti Sree Ramulu tried the same method on our own Indian govt. Even though the Gandhi's and Ramulu's actions are same, we can not say that Indian govt. is not equal to British.

    Why I am saying all this now? I am not supporting violent methods, I want you to understand that the meaning of the situation changes by the way you look at it.

    Continued below.....

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  195. Many of you seemandras complain about extremists(like KCR) in Telangana. But what about the extremists at Seemandra side?

    1. KCR said there will be civil war, TG Venkatesh said the same.

    2. KCR said he cut the tongues, TG Venkatesh said he cut the limbs and bomb the telangana by bringing back the factionizm.

    3. KCR said andhra leaders are looters, seemandra said OU students/professors are talibans, terrorists.

    4. KCR said there will be earth quake, TG Venkatesh formed a sena to counter Telangana in violent way.

    5. KCR said 'bhago', seemandra leaders said who ever want telangana, they are all anti-nationals.

    ...and so on.

    The only difference is when ever KCR gives a statement, then it will be a blast, always in head lines with bold letters, and this is not the same for seemandra leaders, many times there statements appears as box items in news papers?

    Why? does having 10MLAs makes KCR a very big leader? Why does seemandra media gives a big scene for what ever KCR says? and why not the same for other seemandra leaders?

    Before you pointing extremists in Telangana, how many of seemandra leaders/people condemn the TG venkatesh or any other such statements?

    How many of you condemn the destroy the gates of RDS ?

    How many of you condemn the govt action of allocating less than 10% NaBard funds to Telangana and rest of the funds to Seemandra when both regions equally hit by cyclone?

    How come asking a telangana is anti national? Under what clause in our constitution? And how many of you condemn that statement?

    How come media choose to ignore the fact that there was week long protest to remove those seemnadra teachers from valuation center and govt choose to ignored the protest that which led to kicking the seemandra teachers.

    How come media choose to ignore the fact that they protest to remove seemandra teachers in valuation center because in past over 20,000 telangana students are wrongly failed by seemandra teachers and one of the student was committed suicide?

    Media want to show only the OU student's kicking, want to project that every seemandra@ in telangan are under constant threat. Even through a telanga@ kicks a Seemandra@ on personal reasons, media want to show it as Telangana issues. They dont want to tell you the background story.

    Before pointing fingers towards Telangana, first think and try to remember that if you have done the same in your past. Stop picturing Telangana as filled with extremists!! What ever you are questions us now are all done by you in the past. Dont forget.

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  196. we have to stop Polavaram from getting "national status" by any means.

    Yes, it should be atleast delayed until this Telangana issue is resolved. So that we have independent voice in our own state to express our concerns over Polavaram.

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  197. Relax all my telugu people, Andhra Pradesh will be united for ever and ever.

    Don't underestimate the political skills of telugu people. Sonia doesn't have the guts even to expel first time MP like Jagan, do you think she will even dare to split AP??

    In the end, all these separatists will be tagged as "Terrorists" and will be terminated. Where was the TG demand when YSR was alive?? OU JAC students would have been chased to death had YSR been alive? These separatists were celebrating Bathukamma festivals in their bathrooms when YSR was alive??

    No one can stop the MAD Dogs from barking. So funny, "When YSR-the King was alive, no TG agitation...........After the demise YSR, every DOG is behaving like a MAD Dog"

    Do not take these MAD Dogs threats seriously, they will not dare to harm Andhra people in Hyderabad. Even if one Andhra person is harmed in Hyd, all the union government investments in Seemandhra will be burnt to ashes. These actions in Seemandhra will force the central government to shoot these MAD Dogs in Hyderabad and protect andhra people in Hyd.

    These MAD Dogs really don't know how to survive in the real world, so its better for them to die through this TG movement.

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  198. I heard that in 1969 they lodged goondas from Rayalaseema in Hotels to fight for "settlers" , this time we shouldnt give them that Choice we shouldnt allow TG venkatesh and his gang to set foot in Hyd.

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  199. Yup, I too heard about it from my grand father in warrangal, many of Seema goondas posing as police in mafty, carrying lotties, they broke many peoples limbs and heads, my grand father and gang actually captured few of them and surrendered them in police station, he donno what happened to them after that. But we can understand what happened.

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