Saturday, December 25, 2010

Telangana 69: Get off your ass and fight

I wouldn’t trade this for anything else.  I am witnessing history unfold right before my eyes.  I am happy that I am not living in another country like I was few years ago, then I would be so far away from the action.  Of course I wish I was living in Telangana, instead of living in Bangalore.  Every day I get up and feel bad that I am not living in Telangana. I wish I could be here all the time, right here, right now. But then I use every opportunity I get to visit Telangana to take part in the events unfolding in Telangana. 

How could I miss this historic movement?  It is like participating in our India’s freedom struggle against British.  Imagine you were a young man during British India and you see people marching in protests.  But imagine you were too lazy, or confused, or too ignorant, or gave some stupid reason not to participate in the freedom struggle.  Would you not regret it now? I would.

I am thrilled to be part of the current agitation of Telangana.  According to me, it’s once in a lifetime opportunity.  Missing out is not an option for me.  As an American would you not be thrilled to be part of your freedom struggle against British? Would you not give everything to be part of the struggle, participate in the raids of George Washington?  As an African-American would you not be thrilled to be part of the crowd listening to Martin Luther King Jr’s I have a dream’ speech?  [I am not African-American, but I would give everything to be part of that crowd on that historic day when he delivered that speech in Washington DC and I am quite sure I would be in tears]

As a Telangana person, this is your time.  We didn’t have to fight British; we were emancipated by Indian police.  Now is our chance to make our history, our freedom struggle, our independence movement, our chance to make the difference.  It is our chance to be part of the George Washington’s raids and Martin Luther King’s speech.


This is history in making.  We will look back at these days with great pride and great joy.  The camaraderie we develop now will be for life long.  Wouldn’t it be a wasted life if I have not stood up for something that concerned my people?  What is the greatest struggle of mankind for? It’s not for money, not for power, not for luxury or comfort. The greatest of struggles of mankind has been for freedom, fighting for your people, for their rights and for their freedom?  
 
So, what are you thinking?  Why are so diffident? Why are you so timid? Will you forgive yourself apathy?  Why are you confused?  What will you tell your kids when they grow up? ‘I didn’t feel like participating in the greatest struggle that has happened in our history’?  Wouldn’t you want to see in the mirror and tell yourself, ‘yes I stood for something that was grand, something more than myself and my immediate family, I stood for my people’? 

Who cares how our current leaders are?  Isn’t freedom more important than the kind of leaders we have?  Right now, the time is not for hesitation.  Not for doubt.  Not for skepticism.  Not for excuses.  It is time for you to act.  Otherwise you will never forgive yourself; you will have a hole in your heart that tells you that you didn’t do the right thing when you had a chance. 

The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in times of greatest moral crises maintain their neutrality – Dante

This is the greatest crisis that has befallen our people.  This is the time to take a stand.  Neutrality cannot be an excuse.  So what are you going to do about it?

Many people say that students and the youth should concentrate on their academics and career and not participate in political fights.  Those who say that have not read history.  It is clear from our histories that greatest of the political movements that changed history of mankind involved heavy participation from the students.  Those who were protesting for freedom in Tiananmen Square were students.  Those who were protesting against Vietnam War in USA were students.  Students and the youth have always been the section of society which has led the front in changing course of history.  So, how could stop the students and youth of Telangana from participating in this historic and defining moment in our history? 

Today, we are fighting for our identity, our share of water, our self-respect.  Today, we fight against our suppressed history to compensate for all the times we were neglected, marginalized, and oppressed.  Today, we fight against evils the beset our society, so that we can come out new from this struggle, cleaner and better.  Today, we fight all the detractors and naysayers who said Telanganas don’t have it in them to create an identity for themselves.   Today, we are united, in spite of all the differences amongst us.  Today, we fight for a just cause, a cause which is much greater than each of us, and our selfish interest and our narrow perspectives.  Today, we define a course of history for ourselves.

So, I urge you all Telangana people.  It’s not the time for dillydallying or for hesitations.  It is not the time to have self-doubt.  It is not the time to give ignorance as an excuse.  It is time for us to act.  We owe this fight to our children and our grandchildren, so that they lead a life which is better than ours, where they hold their heads high because they are Telanganas, not to be ashamed of his identity, his accent or his language, but proud and confident.  We owe it our progeny. We owe it to their future, their better life, and their self-respect.

So, I say to all of Telangana people, get off your ass and fight. Fight like there is no tomorrow.  Only if you fight today in this historic fight, can you actually define your tomorrow.  You have been given a chance to actually define your tomorrow.  Don’t miss out on it.  

79 comments:

  1. @sujai
    thers a saying "charity begins at home"
    you can do well by leaving your firm to fate, land up in hyd or your hometown warangal and face bullets and lathis instaead of being a "cyber tiger"

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  2. @bharath
    There is a role for everyone, and we know it pretty well! You need to understand that we can't leave the cyber space unguarded! We can't let the blogosphere be filled with anti-Telangana propaganda!

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  3. @TELENGANITES.
    This opportunity comes only once in a life time, This is the "story" you will be Telling your Grand Children, So dont "miss" this Chance to "make" History , If you are apathetic and dont take a role in the "fight" you will regret it for the rest of your life.

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  4. The Agitation Has to be Intense and "violent" or else it would Degrade in to a Cycle of Bandhs and Curfews and eventually peter out because people will get Frustrated and exhausted if the agitation Prolongs and streches on.

    I suggest you Celebrate December 31st by Burning Tires on Roads, Block the roading using Tree Branches and Rocks if you are afraid to go to Main Road , Do it in your own locality near your own house, Shout Jai Telengana even at a Stranger. Gather your friends, make your own Mini, Bike Rally and Shout Jai Telengana on the road.

    Dont Just sit at Home and watch events Unfold on TV actively particpate, To Piss of Your Andhra Neighbours write Jai Telengana Slogans on their walls.

    If a RTC conductor asks you to Buy a Ticket, Refuse shout Jai Telengana.

    Refuse to pay your electricity or Telephone bills,(atleast until they threaten to cutoff your lines).


    Dont go to work , Just sit at your home, help Organize Telengana meetings among your friends( Just like a Kitty party for women).


    Make a community effort and give Out Free food to Total Strangers on the Street. Organize a Free Community kitchens like Sikh Langars if you Can.


    If it is possible Cut off Telephone wires or Deflate Tires of RTC vehicles, refuse to Co-operate with Authorities.

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  5. The Agitation Has to be Intense and "violent" or else it would Degrade in to a Cycle of Bandhs and Curfews and eventually peter out because people will get Frustrated and exhausted if the agitation Prolongs and streches on.

    I suggest you Celebrate December 31st by Burning Tires on Roads, Block the roading using Tree Branches and Rocks if you are afraid to go to Main Road , Do it in your own locality near your own house, Shout Jai Telengana even at a Stranger. Gather your friends, make your own Mini, Bike Rally and Shout Jai Telengana on the road.

    Dont Just sit at Home and watch events Unfold on TV actively particpate, To Piss of Your Andhra Neighbours write Jai Telengana Slogans on their walls.

    If a RTC conductor asks you to Buy a Ticket, Refuse shout Jai Telengana.

    Refuse to pay your electricity or Telephone bills,(atleast until they threaten to cutoff your lines).


    Dont go to work , Just sit at your home, help Organize Telengana meetings among your friends( Just like a Kitty party for women).


    Make a community effort and give Out Free food to Total Strangers on the Street. Organize a Free Community kitchens like Sikh Langars if you Can.


    If it is possible Cut off Telephone wires or Deflate Tires of RTC vehicles, refuse to Co-operate with Authorities.

    Collect Revolutionary Telengana Songs from Internet or Buy Cd's Play them in Your Car , sing them along with your friends, or Play them aloud to Your Next door Andhra neighbours.

    If you see a Andhra person or andhra accent, Shout Jai Telengana at him.

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  6. i know i will be deletedDecember 25, 2010 11:29 PM

    This aditya guy who makes so many comments.

    This is the time to ask him to come of his ass and say what he has worked for the telangana agitation? What really? We have heard a lot from you but where is the action?

    Nonsense.

    None of these guys come forward. Its all politics. And even Sujai is fooled.

    Come. We will deal you. What is the threaten? Come.

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  7. No one has to prove anything to Andhra "Trolls".

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  8. i know i will be deletedDecember 25, 2010 11:44 PM

    Come boss.

    We are monitoring all your blogs and even the marginal ones like this.

    Come. You dont want to accept the SKC too. What nonsense? You want to behave like an extremist. So as an extremist. . .

    Ra. Ra. Raaaa.

    You have given the call sujai.

    Come. This is like the agitation against terrorism. You support the terrorists.

    Come. come. We will deal with you. Incite innocents they will have cases. We will deal with them.

    More importantly you come Sujai. Or that Aditya? You live in those gated communities with home theaters and all. Come to the streets you Sujai and Aditya, Amd then speak.

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  9. i know i will be deletedDecember 25, 2010 11:48 PM

    All of you fight for telangana.

    And then this Sujai kind of characters along with KCR will talk to Sonia and the Reddy's and the Vellama's and get a solution.

    That is the way it is going to go forward.

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  10. i know i will be deletedDecember 25, 2010 11:52 PM

    This sujai is a nice sensible guy that way. If I had a comment that he deleted it would show up that the admin he deleted.

    Boys and girls you should trust hims there - he does not delete a post. While I know in almost all telangana forums you cant post. There is ful censorship.

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  11. i know i will be deletedDecember 25, 2010 11:55 PM

    Sujai and Aditya are rich people.

    What happens to the state does not matter to them. They are like the DORAS in telangana.

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  12. i know i will be deletedDecember 26, 2010 12:01 AM

    For all your talk. . .

    Sujai tell me where we can meet. . .

    Aditya where can we meet. . .

    You will find me asking you like that very uncivilized? Fine.

    Bu I am asking you. Come.

    ra. ra. raaa.

    Ra ra aera

    Dum undha?

    Ra ra raaa.

    Dum undhaaa?

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  13. i know i will be deletedDecember 26, 2010 12:04 AM

    You have a post which like says "come for action". The surprising thing is I am replying and there are no TG guys at all.

    I always knew that TG agitation was a a sham and anyway now I know it is true.

    There is no TG agitation. It is all one drama. KCRs drama.

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  14. Ra ra antunnav kani, nee peru kuda cheppani periki pandhavey, 0u arts campus kastavva

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  15. Ra ra antunnav kani, nee peru kuda cheppani periki pandhavey, 0u arts campus kastavva

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  16. i know i will be deletedDecember 26, 2010 12:17 AM

    Ori nee yama nuvu anonymous tyoe kuda. . .

    that is what your entire telangana agitation is about. . .

    ra ra. raaa. raaaaa.

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  17. i know i will be deletedDecember 26, 2010 12:18 AM

    nee yama

    all anonymous. all extortionists, , ,

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  18. i know i will be deletedDecember 26, 2010 12:20 AM

    nuvvu anonymous aaa leka nuvvu aditya naa?

    decide chesuko

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  19. all of you sujai and aditya think you are topes/greats?

    Great. Post one comment from now where you will say violent things. I challenge you. Your blog is monitored.

    Speak nicely. Thats ok. But say things like "cut off tongues" etc we are monitoring your blog with IP and we will get to you.

    Not only is it unpleasant speaking but it is "sedition".

    Speak that language and we will see.

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  20. Sujai thinks he knows everything.

    Who said Pondicherry is whatever?

    What I said is we want a spceal status like Pondicherry.

    Sujai speaks likes an extremist. And he/she expects that all of us should say "Banchan Dora".

    And if someone does not agree he wants violence like in his last post. Sad.

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  21. @@i know i will be deleted and all other andhrite who are supposed to be deleted..

    OU campus daka avasaram ledu ra...
    Boduppal busstand daggira...relay hunger strike place undi..
    akkadiki vachi chinna pilladithonaina mataldura..

    Avunura neeyamma neeyamma antunnavu...
    Nalugu kotla telangana vallaki Telangana Talli undi raa..
    Kali budida ayipothavura sankaram jathi nayala..

    incite innocents and they will have cases antunnavu gada..
    okksari jail nunchi vidudala ayina vallatho matladu valla swaramlo kallalo unna theevratha chudu..
    pettura caselu petti tharavatha jaillalo petti variki inka enno nirbandhalu petti chudu
    nuvvoka manishini arrest chesthe padi mandi inka mundukostharu..
    jaillo petttaniki kuda jaga undadu..

    Sujai,Aditya vallu udyamamlo ela palgonnaro maaku telusu...neeku nirupinchalsina avasarma maaku ledu..

    TDF office Nallakuntalo untadi..akkadiki vachi matladuraa..

    Tracking baga chesthunnavu gada..akkadiki evarevaru vasthunnaro chusi vallani etla arrest cheyalo velli mee SA naa policelaki cheppu

    okka police department tappa anni dept lo JAC lu form ayinayi...vellani kuda lopal thoye..piriki panda...

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  22. @law Monitor my ass ,avusaram aithey andhrolla talalu narukutam, nalkalu kostam,telengana kelly tarmi tarmi kodtham

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  23. @i know ilbe daleted you wont be deleted sujai allows too many trolls like you to post bullshit

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  24. T state will be formed.10 will become judges. 30 will become ministers. 100 will become group 1 officers. 1000 will become class 1 officers. 10000 will get other govt jobs.

    the balance 39900000 people will continue to live as ever.
    Sujai is happy. he is now ruled by 'his own' people. Aditya is happy. Green star is happy. Lavanya is happy.
    And all is well.

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  25. @pok,


    "T state will be formed.10 will become judges. 30 will become ministers. 100 will become group 1 officers. 1000 will become class 1 officers. 10000 will get other govt jobs."


    These people are going to be getting their jobs depending upon their merit,ability,instead of the dialect,regional legacy,or their ability to earn....

    "the balance 39900000 people will continue to live as ever."

    I am going to be one of them.I solemnly pledge that I will NOT repeat my mistakes,and will kick their asses(democratically)with all my might if they are found cheating.


    "Sujai is happy. he is now ruled by 'his own' people. Aditya is happy. Green star is happy. Lavanya is happy."

    FINALLY......The one thing we all are going to agree with.

    Will you go home now ;)

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  26. @Sera,


    People like you think that cheating an innocent people of their means,to get fat is an accomplishment.No wonder your views and opinions match with the SA guys so much....


    I am sure you have heard this,birds of the same feathers flock together....

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  27. cont....

    The British came to India to further their business prospects and stayed put for 200 years....

    The SETTLERS(SA,Kayasths etc..) came to Hyderabad to further their businesses and stayed put for 400(disputed)years.

    The British used the Indians tax money,called them names,exploited their ignorance,and took away a LOT of resources in the name of colonialism....


    The SA and OTHERS used the Telanganites tax money,called them names,exploited their ignorance,and took away a LOT of resources in the name of SETTLING....


    The Indians understood the duplicity of the Britishers policies and finally succeeded in throwing them out,inspite of great hardships.

    The Telanganites understood the duplicity of the SA and SETTLERS policies and finally succeeded in throwing them out,inspite of great hardships.

    NOW........

    I don't remember the few English people who stayed back after independence,staking claim on Delhi or other cities because they were DEVELOPED with THEIR money.....

    Or did you miss your history classes altogether?????

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  28. The SKC report would be out soon. In these 60 years, there could have been numerous individual incidents where one population ended up advantageous (real or perceived) than others. But was there systematic exploitation of Telanganas by Seemandhras? I hope SKC, with their great wisdom and experience would see forest for trees and give a fair assessment.

    If the judgement is favorable to T cause, then all your energies should be focused on convincing the various political parties and MPs. There is no point in all this chest beating going on in this blog and harassing Andhras anywhere in Telangana. You may do protests, hartals, bandhs all you can. They better be peaceful or else the government would quell them equal or more violence. If the law and order machinery fails, that I would consider a failure of Indian democracy. I have faith in our democracy.

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  29. Lavanya,

    Good. So we will have atleast one state in this country where everything will be Rama Rajyam.
    Wish you all the best in your new state.
    Since I am not a govt employee, not a farmer, not a politician, not the son of a govt employee, not a businessman......just an ordinary guy working in a private company it will make no difference. So I will also be happy.

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  30. @aditya
    i can say with 100% confidence that you can be a good fighter, maybe a street fighter but NEVER a leader.
    grow up dude

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  31. @Manohar,

    "In these 60 years, there could have been numerous individual incidents where one population ended up advantageous (real or perceived) than others. But was there systematic exploitation of Telanganas by Seemandhras?"

    I never believed,that a regular Seemandhra guy has done anything wrong to the Telangana people at an individual level.

    That said,there is proof that,the earlier more savvy generations from there have made it easier for your'll by completely marginalising an entire group of people of their rights.

    They have been smart enough to associate themselves with an already developed CITY but with a largely English wise illiterate region during their separation.


    If they have been asked to start a state from the scratch,things would have been different today.

    Their association with several leaders in Delhi during freedom struggle and afterwards made it easier for them,in getting their way.

    Whereas Hyderabad State was a different country altogether....

    Just answer one question.....


    How come Hyderabad was the only city to develop in all these years,as against Vizag,
    Vijayawada,Tirupati,Nellore,Guntur and many others?????

    Did you even bother to go and see the interiors of the Telangana districts or find out why there is such a hue and cry in the past few years????

    I am not waiting for answers,I am sure there aren't many sensible ones coming in.

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  32. @ANONYMOUS

    I Hate to be a leader( iam inspired by anarchists particulary the CNT-FAI who refused to take hold of Power, when Catalonia was placed at their feet).

    what i would love most is to fight along with my TG brothers for a genuine cause.

    Most of Andhras really Believe that Telenganites are Naive and Gullible so they got manipulated by some power Hungry Leader, Other andhras genuinely Despise TG people and Hate them.
    I feel sorry for the former and i only feel Hatred towards the later.

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  33. @TELENGANITES

    CURFEW and BANDH season is going to start soon, any ideas on Contributing towards Telengana Cause Instead of Sitting at home and watchin events unfold on TV.

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  34. @All Telenganites.

    My advice on How to fight for Cause.
    <<< Make Phone calls from public booths to Police(100) claiming that you are a andhrite and that you and your house is under attack by a large Telengana mob.


    <<<Buy lot of fire crackers , the loud one like Sutthil bombs and blast them at Random, this will create a lot of confusion.

    <<< Send Anti-andhra emails and SMS to your friends and relatives and urge them to Re-send it their friends.

    <<< Take a Telephone Directory book and Find Andhra names mostly like names ending with neni, in Hyd and Piss them off.

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  35. Sujai,
    Of course I wish I was living in Telangana, instead of living in Bangalore. Every day I get up and feel bad that I am not living in Telangana. I wish I could be here all the time, right here, right now

    CUT THE CRAP. If you really want to do something, move to HYD RIGHT NOW. I mean RIGHT NOW. There are lot of tech companies in HYD. What the hell are you doing in Bangalore. Stop preaching people sitting comfortably somewhere. Come and join people in OU or KU. I expect your next blog to be from HYD in the midst of the agitation with you physically present. Until then stop lecturing people.

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  36. @Lavanya,

    I never believed,that a regular Seemandhra guy has done anything wrong to the Telangana people at an individual level.

    That said,there is proof that,the earlier more savvy generations from there have made it easier for your'll by completely marginalising an entire group of people of their rights.

    They have been smart enough to associate themselves with an already developed CITY but with a largely English wise illiterate region during their separation.


    Good that you think the current generation 'regular' seemandhra people haven't done any wrong to Telangana people. So it looks like you want to take revenge/ punish Andhras for transgressions of the past (which by the way may not be true). Sounds as misguided as Bush II waging war on Iraq.

    So you think you have proof that earlier generations of Andhra people exploited Telangana people. People of Andhra think thats a lie. Still it is important to know whether exploitation has happened and I hope SKC will decide on that.

    Largely English wise illeterate? Lets just say largely illeterate.

    If they have been asked to start a state from the scratch,things would have been different today.

    Their association with several leaders in Delhi during freedom struggle and afterwards made it easier for them,in getting their way.

    Whereas Hyderabad State was a different country altogether....

    Just answer one question.....

    How come Hyderabad was the only city to develop in all these years,as against Vizag,
    Vijayawada,Tirupati,Nellore,Guntur and many others?????


    Simple answer is that we have a very centralized model for development and capitals are the showcases for our so called development and prosperity.

    But I am least interested in getting into a verbal duel as all these are discussed and done to death in this and many other forums.

    Did you even bother to go and see the interiors of the Telangana districts or find out why there is such a hue and cry in the past few years????

    I have been to some places in Telangana on work many years back. Having said that, why should I go to 'interiors' when I have no business there??

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  37. Looks like the statement of Churchhil is coming right that if India ever gets democracy it will be run by goons.

    In Telanganas case not only is it "IF" but even the present agitation is led by goons like KCR/KTR and Harish Rao who had first set the example of mock immolation into roll which caused the death later of 100s. Thats the kind of goon leadership that runs this.

    And now freshly the ruling party MPs who do not have the guts to resign are going for hunger strike. God knows what stops them from resigning and taking the process forward politically rather than taking to the street - specially when they are ruling MPs.

    And once TG comes (if it does) we will see other agitations (specially for Hyderabad as UT) which is also evident in the debates of this blog too and also the news.

    The only (to a certain extent sane) people look like some sections of the JAC and perhaps people like this blog owner who puts forward arguments and wants things peacefully.

    Hope some sense prevails with SKC report.

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  38. HOW TO BURN TIRES.


    find some large truck tires, stuff the inner part of the tires with Cloth dipped in Kerosene, Light it up and you have your own roadblock( i mean fire wall) on the road.

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  40. Lavanya,

    You talk like an MBA student.
    Maybe you should wait till you grow up before you post seriously.

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  41. @lavanya...

    your example of comparison SA people living in HYD to Britishers is damn funny..the best part is you put it with lot of seriousness and fire...once you calm down think about it you will realize how stupid you are!!!

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  42. @Manohar,

    "Largely English wise illeterate? Lets just say largely illeterate."

    "I have been to some places in Telangana on work many years back. Having said that, why should I go to 'interiors' when I have no business there??"


    Your answers here prove your ignorance and your arrogance....

    If you don't have an answer to the question atleast stop yourself from sounding foolish...

    How do states develop,when the regions surrounding it's capitals are suffering with abject poverty????

    Your ignorance is astounding!!!!

    @Shravan,

    "Take any state, the capital city will be the most developed compared to rest of the regions."

    Hyderabad was already the capital city of the Hyderabad State AND thank you very much,it was already well developed.

    I want the names of other cities developed in Telangana with OUR(yours and ours)money in the past 60 years....

    According to your logic,ONLY capital cities should be developed and the regions supporting it's lifelines must not.

    You want to talk about solutions without any understanding of the problem!!!!

    You would be starving,if your life depended on logic....


    @pok,


    "You talk like an MBA student.
    Maybe you should wait till you grow up before you post seriously."

    I don't need to be anything other than myself to support a cause.Degrees are not a prerequisite to judge someone's intelligence.

    Maybe your shallow arguments shouldn't be taken seriously, afterall...or,maybe you people just need a class in common-sense.

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  43. Whao! My post has been deleted even though I didn't write any obscene content.I don't know the reason, probably Sujai is afraid of revealing his identity.

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  44. @Anonymous,


    "your example of comparison SA people living in HYD to Britishers is damn funny..the best part is you put it with lot of seriousness and fire...once you calm down think about it you will realize how stupid you are!!!"

    Good that you found them funny...

    The comparisons were based on some foolish arguments from Sera that less than 5% of settlers of all communities in the city must decide which way Hyderabad must go....

    I was roaring with laughter....

    That really was a good one...

    Thanks Mathur aka Sera....

    Coming to you Anon,develop some manners and give yourself a name first. There are enough idiots who are into guerilla warfare on this forum.

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  45. From what I understand SKC is going to Suggest only a SPECIAL PACKAGE for Telengana and may be negative towards granting statehood.

    Get ready for war Telenganites.

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  46. @@@Lavanya

    We will know who will roar with laughter and we will know who will croak with laughter.

    Very easy to say empty things and have weak arguments supported by a bunch of lies (what we think).

    Let the SKC report come and then the truth will be out. But I still repeat if the report that what we believe are lies are actually proved to be true we are willing to go with it. But we want an official statement on that. Not some 101 kind of professors or apprentices educating us. That is the spirit of democracy. Are you with us on that? Or do you want to carry on with your holier than thou selves.

    And if that happens believe me I am going to actually atleast in the circles I know meet and champion your cause. Of course you may say you don't need it. That's ok. We did not put our effort and money to give the SKC report because someone asked for it. That's what we believed. And if proven wrong we are willing to change. And we actually told them that we want to hear the truth. And we know of the integrity of the man leading the SKC.

    And that Hyderabad can be a UT landlocked Pondicherry style which is in four pieces and scattered in three states still holds true. You may say that was because of a treaty between the french and british etc. That's fine. So will grandchildren say that Hyderabad became a UT because of an agitation and SKC report and some agreement etc etc etc in the year maybe 2110.

    And BTW a small clarification we are more than 5%. That's just so that you are informed. And in any case it may not matter to you because you dont think we are human beings (forget the fact that we are Hyderabadis and we don't need your approval of that specially from people who live hundreds of kms away).

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  47. @Sera
    <<< we know of the integrity of the man leading the SKC.


    Just because he is North Indian. How did u know did you sleep with him.

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  48. @Sera,


    "But we want an official statement on that. Not some 101 kind of professors or apprentices educating us. That is the spirit of democracy. Are you with us on that? Or do you want to carry on with your holier than thou selves."


    If you can believe it,I was one of the most aggressive supporters of a
    United Andhra,until a year ago.....

    I argued my head off with anyone who supported the Telangana movement or their activities.

    I was worried about the disruption in the students lives,the violent protests and the legal troubles that they were getting into....

    Until last year....

    When I found the facts presented by Sujai and the others bothersome,I started asking questions myself.

    I asked several colleagues and friends of mine about the situation in their native regions,and I did not want to believe what I heard...

    I made a couple of trips to some places in Pochampally,Medak and Warangal.What I heard and saw there changed my view about the agitation...

    The schools,hospitals,clinics, offices,colleges,they just did not exist in reality.But,the list showed otherwise....

    So much for government data....

    That's why I suggest,that people make personal trips to the regions instead of sending representatives to the govt.offices.

    What you are going to get is a just a bunch of lies.....

    This is what bothers me,educated people were fooled with a lot of paper work,and we never bother to cross check....


    "And BTW a small clarification we are more than 5%. That's just so that you are informed. And in any case it may not matter to you because you dont think we are human beings (forget the fact that we are Hyderabadis and we don't need your approval of that specially from people who live hundreds of kms away)."


    Even if you are more than a 5%,it is not equal to the want of 4 crore Telanganites.

    I was born and brought up here,and share the same culture that you do,and I perfectly understand what your concerns are.But,to be very honest if we have been indifferent to others sufferings,we have no right to ask them for sympathy for our own.


    I wouldn't have had a problem,if you or your so called friends had atleast made an effort to go find out,why so many lakhs and crores of people are on the roads,in the jails and hospitals to support a cause.

    How about that for a start?????

    Are you game????????

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  49. @Sera,


    "But we want an official statement on that. Not some 101 kind of professors or apprentices educating us. That is the spirit of democracy. Are you with us on that? Or do you want to carry on with your holier than thou selves."


    If you can believe it,I was one of the most aggressive supporters of a
    United Andhra,until a year ago.....

    I argued my head off with anyone who supported the Telangana movement or their activities.

    I was worried about the disruption in the students lives,the violent protests and the legal troubles that they were getting into....

    Until last year....

    When I found the facts presented by Sujai and the others bothersome,I started asking questions myself.

    I asked several colleagues and friends of mine about the situation in their native regions,and I did not want to believe what I heard...

    I made a couple of trips to some places in Pochampally,Medak and Warangal.What I heard and saw there changed my view about the agitation...

    The schools,hospitals,clinics, offices,colleges,they just did not exist in reality.But,the list showed otherwise....

    So much for government data....

    That's why I suggest,that people make personal trips to the regions instead of sending representatives to the govt.offices.

    What you are going to get is a just a bunch of lies.....

    This is what bothers me,educated people were fooled with a lot of paper work,and we never bother to cross check....


    "And BTW a small clarification we are more than 5%. That's just so that you are informed. And in any case it may not matter to you because you dont think we are human beings (forget the fact that we are Hyderabadis and we don't need your approval of that specially from people who live hundreds of kms away)."


    Even if you are more than a 5%,it is not equal to the want of 4 crore Telanganites.

    I was born and brought up here,and share the same culture that you do,and I perfectly understand what your concerns are.But,to be very honest if we have been indifferent to others sufferings,we have no right to ask them for sympathy for our own.


    I wouldn't have had a problem,if you or your so called friends had atleast made an effort to go find out,why so many lakhs and crores of people are on the roads,in the jails and hospitals to support a cause.

    How about that for a start?????

    Are you game????????

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  50. @@@Lavanya

    Did you see KTR yesterday on timesnow along with Nirmala of BJP and KK of congress.

    KTR makes this statement that states need not be based on a scientific basis and this talk of development is not necessary. And that is why they won't accept SKC.

    So.

    1. If its not on a scientific basis then Hyderabad can be made on UT inspite of all the arguments that sujai, jayshankar, kodandaram etc make. So there is no need of arguing on that. And the example of Pondicherry does anyway exist.

    2. If it has to be scientific then let us accept the SKC report.

    And did you travel the interiors of the old city where I originated and spent my childhood and see what the development, schools and hospitals etc are. You may never have stepped in there and you will be amazed at the poverty. Talk to the muslims too in the old city and you will find that they agree with me. So much for government data and your perception that HYD is developed.

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  51. Lavanya,

    I have travelled into interior villages of Mahaboobnagar , karimnagar, nizamabad and adilabad. I have also travelled into inetriors of Srikakulam, Vishakapatnam, Kurnool, Anantapur and fwew others as a part of my company's CSR initiatives in the 90s. Believe me...the villages are the same everywhere. The lack of any development, infrastructure , education hits you everywhere. Telangana districts have not been discriminated in favor of andhra/seema districts. There is abject poverty and misery. Ofcourse in every village there are some extremely rich people too. The only difference we found is that in Telangana all the reservation benefits for STs have been cornered by one community - Lambadas whereas in andhra/seema it has been better spread.

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  52. @Sera,

    I am well aware of the interiors of Hyderabad bro,half my clan resides there.....

    I know the Afzalgunjs,the Tappachabutras,The Tolichowkis and the Jiagudas.
    I know the Karwans,the Kulsumpuras,the Aliabads and the Shalibandas.......


    I am not a novice to the old city or its problems.....

    You are comparing two totally different theories.....


    While the old city suffers from improper exposure and monopolistic management,the Telangana region suffers from lack of improper representation and total lack of management.....

    If I have understood one thing,it is that,it is impossible to explain this to someone with a prejudiced and closed approach to Telangana.

    @pok,


    Looks like you got your time zones wrong....

    Things have changed in the after the 90's after the liberalisation policies.

    Where cities in some parts of the state have sprung up like mushrooms,large amounts reserved for the development of the Telangana regions were either falsified,misused or have disappeared altogether.


    If you take a comparative tour of these regions now,I bet you would notice the difference....

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  53. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhridayam.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F12%2Fthe-story-of-two-movements.pdf&h=bd562


    Anything else???????

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  54. Did andhras develop hyderabad by their investments? So we should believe it is andhras who established IT firms like google,infosys. Andhras invested only in realestate with the money from surpulus of their canal agriculture which only made the life difficult for locals

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  55. Dear brothers,

    Get off your ass and fight. Our cities vijayawada, vizag and Tirupathi are shadowed by Hyderabad. If you do not fight, after two years we will end up fighting for same cause. You know, history is going repeat(1969-1973). I do not want to waste my time, so get off your ass and fight.

    Division will not make much difference to telengana. Same politicians, same city and same pepole. But it will make big difference for andhra. Again thank you for fighting for other's cause.

    Jai telengana = Jai andhra

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  56. Hello...

    Emotions are great but even if you get Telangana we people will be ruled by same Ponnam Prabhakar, Survey Satyanarayana, VH, DS , KK, or may be KCR etc..
    All are same. If we have no guts to fight in United Andhra Pradesh, New telangan state would not be different.
    Separate Telangana is just like an Advil, you feel relieved for a day and your real problem will be not addresssed.

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  57. The Congress and BJP are equally criminal as far as divisions of states are concerned, when India got its freedom from British rule at that time Nehru and other leaders sub - divided the country into many states based on LANGUAGE and later when BJP was in power between 1998-2004 they again carved out smaller states from Bihar (Jharkhand), U.P (Uttarakhand), Madhya Pradesh (Chattisgarh). The divisions of states are meaningless it does not improve the living standards of the Aam Admi, from the experience of states like Jharkhand it is absolutely clear that only politicians gain from increasing number of states (Increase in the number of Chief Ministers, ministers Bureaucrats etc.) the loot in Jharkhand by Madhu Koda (an Independent MLA becoming CM) of Rs.4000 crores in a short span of two years. Now in telengana the common man is being taken for a ride by the politicians, the politicians of Andhra Pradesh in general and the congress party in particular is playing double game to be relevant on both sides (Andhra, Telengana) these unscrupulous politicians are trying to fulfill their personal ambitions by stoking regional ambitions and then hiding behind the public who have to pay for these unnecessary struggles by their lives and limbs, nothing is going to change by daily carving out new states only wasteful expenditures on up keeping of more ministers, bureaucrats and other unproductive expenses like spending thousands of crores on creating a new capital and so on and so forth, the public will be paying through their nose for all these and their burden will continue to rise. United States is also a very big country but it has not increased a single new state for several decades in fact in the US CONSTITUTION "New States may be admitted by the Congress into the Union", and forbidding a new state to be created out of the territory of an existing state, but in our country we are doing just the opposite and there is no reason for carving out new states from the existing one. If the UPA government allows the formation of the TELENGANA STATE IT WILL OPEN A PANDORA BOX and similar demands will be made in the future for creating new states like Rayalaseema, Vidharbha, Dargeeling. Sometime in the future there will be a demand that MEGA CITIES like Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai should be made a state,THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD DEMAND BETTER GOVERNANCE AND BETTER STANDARDS OF LIVING INSTEAD OF FALLING INTO THE WELL LAID TRAPS OF THE POLITICIANS AND VESTED INTERESTS.

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  58. The Congress and BJP are equally criminal as far as divisions of states are concerned, when India got its freedom from British rule at that time Nehru and other leaders sub - divided the country into many states based on LANGUAGE and later when BJP was in power between 1998-2004 they again carved out smaller states from Bihar (Jharkhand), U.P (Uttarakhand), Madhya Pradesh (Chattisgarh). The divisions of states are meaningless it does not improve the living standards of the Aam Admi, from the experience of states like Jharkhand it is absolutely clear that only politicians gain from increasing number of states (Increase in the number of Chief Ministers, ministers Bureaucrats etc.) the loot in Jharkhand by Madhu Koda (an Independent MLA becoming CM) of Rs.4000 crores in a short span of two years. Now in telengana the common man is being taken for a ride by the politicians, the politicians of Andhra Pradesh in general and the congress party in particular is playing double game to be relevant on both sides (Andhra, Telengana) these unscrupulous politicians are trying to fulfill their personal ambitions by stoking regional ambitions and then hiding behind the public who have to pay for these unnecessary struggles by their lives and limbs, nothing is going to change by daily carving out new states only wasteful expenditures on up keeping of more ministers, bureaucrats and other unproductive expenses like spending thousands of crores on creating a new capital and so on and so forth, the public will be paying through their nose for all these and their burden will continue to rise. United States is also a very big country but it has not increased a single new state for several decades in fact in the US CONSTITUTION "New States may be admitted by the Congress into the Union", and forbidding a new state to be created out of the territory of an existing state, but in our country we are doing just the opposite and there is no reason for carving out new states from the existing one. If the UPA government allows the formation of the TELENGANA STATE IT WILL OPEN A PANDORA BOX and similar demands will be made in the future for creating new states like Rayalaseema, Vidharbha, Dargeeling. Sometime in the future there will be a demand that MEGA CITIES like Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai should be made a state,THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY SHOULD DEMAND BETTER GOVERNANCE AND BETTER STANDARDS OF LIVING INSTEAD OF FALLING INTO THE WELL LAID TRAPS OF THE POLITICIANS AND VESTED INTERESTS.

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  59. Dear Telangana friends,

    Do not give up in the end. Fight until you get new telangana state. After division, 60% of government jobs are moved to Andhra area. This makes jump start to andhra area. Politicians try hard to make Vizag, vijayawada air ports to international airports. Hotel industry will improve. Real estate will improve.

    On the other side, Hyderabad looses 60% governments jobs. Unemployment increases. Real estate prices goes down. Those half constructed lands are not useful for farming as well. People from Andhra does not need to come to Hyd for government work. Hotel industry goes down.

    Please try hard to get telangana state.

    Jai Telangana = Jai Andhra

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  60. There is no TG agitation. It is all one drama. KCRs drama.

    http://hridayam.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/the-story-of-two-movements.pdf

    Telangana Maha Garjana = 20,00,000+ People
    Samaikyandhra Garjana = 2000 School, College Kids
    Separate HYD = 1 (sara)

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  61. @aditya
    google and infosys were established certainly NOT BY kcr or kodandaram, nor by ou jac.
    by seeing the antics of those students, i wonder wether they have any intrest whatsoever on the most important aspect for any student-STUDIES.

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  62. Anything else???????

    Yes, there is some thing missing, the case for separate HYD, I just added those stats above.

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  63. @sujai
    and ya, i forgot to say,infosys and googler were NOT established by andhrites.
    ok.happy.?

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  64. @andhras so stop saying u guys dvloped hyd

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  65. @wiki
    we andhrites never said that we developed hyd.
    we only said that WE ALSO have a share in its developemnt in the form of taxes paid,wealth generated and circulated, etc
    if someone says that WE ONLY developed, I condemnt it

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  66. Even google and microsoft pay more taxes than u, they wil also ask hyd to be made US Territory

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  67. Latest news !!
    Telangana given along with Gorkhaland (West Bengal), Harit Pradesh, Poorvanchal and Bundelkhand (UP]),Mithilanchal (Bihar), Coorg (Karnataka), Saurashtra (Gujarat), Bodoland , Dimarji state, Karbi (Assam) and Vidarbha (Maharahstra).

    Only TN remains to be decided.

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  68. Congress may do that because it is weak in all the above states except AP

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  70. 2nd SRC possible.

    Lets hope so. My Mahaboobnagar will not have to be part of a state with Karimnagar and Warangal. We are different. We are culturally different. Our food habits are different. Our associations with our friends from Kurnool district have to be cemented.

    We don't want to be part of Telangana.

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  71. @pok earlier u said u are from andhra you wil even claim somebody else as ur father if it suits ur argument

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  73. http://hridayam.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/the-story-of-two-movements.pdf

    Telangana Maha Garjana = 20,00,000+ People
    Samaikyandhra Garjana = 2000 School, College Kids
    Separate HYD = 1 (sara)
    Telangana not including Mahaboobnagar = 1 (POK)

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  74. I dont understand the deal with second SRC. As of my understanding if a second SRC formed, SRC will conduct a study on entire country or in few states where the new state demands are arising and submit report/recommendations to central govt. That is exactly what SKC did now, so I dont see why we need SRC for Telangana formation.

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  75. http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DKcihKP3_ugc&h=3d964


    Anybody who still thinks that the Telangana Movement is led by a few leaders,may hang up their arguments for good.....

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  76. Wiki,

    When did I say I was from Andhra.
    I have often indicated in my posts that I am from MBNR. I have never supported a UA or a T. I have maintained it makes no difference to me. I have always been against those from Karimnagar and Warangal for reasons I have enumerated in various comments of mine.

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  77. haha...hilarious...IP address anta tracking anta..will get to you anta...lol funny..
    Wake up Andhra kiddos....stop dreaming!
    What wrong did we say? Truth hurts...and looks like some people who got hurt, lost their mind! Get well Soon Kids!!

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  78. sujai you did a good thing by not deleting comments, that certainly show their attitude and people who want to stay united cannot behave as such with people who dont want to stay united, let them convince us if they can ever do so.

    Thanks for the provocation u cynical assholes..

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