Monday, August 08, 2011

Telangana 86: Democracy shuts its doors on Telangana

05 August 2011

Today, in a landmark speech, the Home Minister of Indian Union, P Chidambaram, set a new and dangerous precedent in the annals of Indian democracy.  His speech urged the two warring parties, the bully and the victim, to resolve the issue on their own and offered no intervention from the Government of India.  He said, quite emphatically, that it is not his ministry’s responsibility or the responsibility of the Government or the Parliament to intervene to resolve the issue of Telangana, and left the contentious issue of nearly sixty years to be resolved by the victims in Telangana by convincing the bullies of Seemandhra. 

This day marks a new chapter in the history of Independent India.  It deviates markedly from all earlier precedents where Union Government took the responsibility of resolving the regional disputes when they arose.  When Telanganas were being targeted by the Nizam’s forces the Government of India intervened by sending police to disarm Nizam and annex Hyderabad State into Dominion of India.  When Andhras of Madras State rose up in protest citing domination of Tamils, Nehru’s government intervened to create a new state for Andhras.  When Maharashtrians fought for a separate state, Article 3 was invoked to create two new states.  In numerous occasions, the Union Government and the courts of India intervened to settle the riparian disputes that arose between the states. 

Today, the Home Minister of India has abandoned such a practice and sought refuge in nonintervention, saying it is not their responsibility to provide a solution to a regional dispute.  The Government of India made it clear that they don’t have anything to do with the current dispute over formation of Telangana.  In essence, New Delhi orphaned Telangana without providing any recourse to justice.


When Telanganas heard Home Minister speak nonchalantly in the Lok Sabha following the impassioned speech from Sushma Swaraj, they could not believe how callous the Government of India has become.  They were left wondering how and what happened to the democratic and constitutional methods that were earlier employed to resolve regional disputes that arose in this country.   They started to question their faith in the democratic institutions of India.

The Home Minister of India told the nation that it is the duty of Telugu people, composed of two warring groups, to come together and find a solution.  He said his government can only facilitate an agreement between the two parties, but refused to step in to provide a solution.  The UPA political leadership continues to hold onto the pipe dream that miraculously, through some divine intervention, the people of Telangana and Seemandhra would somehow bury their differences that have been mounting up over the last sixty years, hug each other in a sudden twist like in the Indian movies, and unanimously come to an agreement.   

While making such unrealistic suggestions, our beloved Home Minister might as well have directed the 40 million people in Telangana to pray to Lord Venkateshwara and hope the God himself descends to provide a solution to the current problem, instead of wasting their time knocking on the doors of the government or approaching the courts in India. 

Our leadership in New Delhi may require a course in history, a course in common sense, and if possible a dose of wisdom, if such a medicine is found somewhere.  There are many instances when two people cannot resolve issues no matter what.  That’s why we have need arbiters in the form of courts or governments to resolve such situations.  If all the warring people were asked to resolve the issues by coming to a common ground on their own, there would no need for courts in this country.  There would be no need for an arbiter – all contentious issues will get solved miraculously without any intervention. 

Indian Constitution clearly prescribes the method to resolve regional disputes when regions within the state do not come to an agreement, and it is the duty of the Government to employ those methods to bring resolution.  The role of Government of India has always been to impart the solution judiciously following the prescribed democratic and constitutional guidelines, with or without the support of all political parties. 

The expectation from the current UPA political leadership that all political parties should agree on the same solution is unreasonable and in fact quite impossible.  There are various examples in the past where a consensus amongst all political parties was not a precondition to resolve the contentious issues.  For example, without the support of RJD, the prominent political party of Bihar, a bill was passed in the Parliament to create Jharkhand out of Bihar.  Nuclear Bill was passed in the Parliament though there was massive opposition from the allies of the ruling party. 

In his speech in Lok Sabha, P Chidambaram resorted to a mischievous and dangerous Machiavellian trickery that may completely change the face of Indian democracy in future.  He started counting the number of political parties in Andhra Pradesh and divided them into three groups, those who support formation of Telangana, those who do not, and those who have not made their stance clear.  Introducing a strange and alien notion of counting political parties instead of counting the number of elected representatives, the Home Minister of India has completely and permanently altered Indian democracy and its basic ethos to set it on a new and ominous course.   I am not sure if the Harvard educated Home Minister of Republic of India realizes this, but Indian Parliament is not a party-based democracy as he stated in his speech, but it is a parliamentary democracy, in which the opinion of individual elected leader is paramount and not the opinion of a political party.  Indian Constitution does not recognize political parties as legal representatives of the people.  We don’t count the support in the number of political parties but we count the number of elected leaders.  

Honorable Home Minister of India has said that ‘there are eight recognized political parties in Andhra Pradesh’.  While three of them support, one opposes, and four have not taken a decision as yet.  Since four parties have not made up their mind, he wants to wait for their decision before he can proceed further.   Home Minister has introduced a new step in the process of creation of new states, called ‘the conclusion of consultation process’ which, according to him, takes precedence over the impending democratic aspirations clearly articulated from the region of Telangana.  This new step runs against the intention of the architects of Indian Constitution who made it clear that the will of the people of the region is the sole criterion for the Union Government to initiate the process of state formation.   

Does P Chidambaram realize that these four parties are using this attitude of the UPA political leadership to actually delay the decision process, so that no state formation can happen?  Does he not realize that a majority can use this excuse to delay the formation of Telangana forever?  Doesn’t Article 3 clear empower the Parliament to go ahead and reorganize the states without getting the consent from the State Assembly? Didn’t Indian Union break up the Hyderabad State though there was no process of consultation?  Wasn’t Telangana merged with Andhra State without any formal consent of Telanganas? 

Can we know why we are seeking consensus amongst all political parties? Is that a reasonable expectation when the warring groups are two regions and not two political parties?  The Home Minister keeps stressing that the ‘main political party and main opposition party in Andhra Pradesh are divided’.   Divided along what lines, we may ask?  It is evident that the elected leaders of Andhra Pradesh are completely divided along the regional lines irrespective of their political, religious, or caste affiliation?  Doesn’t that tell us something about a democratic aspiration of a region which is now riding so high that the usual affiliations that dominate Indian politics are now thrown into the background?  If the Home Minister had known how Indian democracy works he would have counted the number of elected representatives from Telangana who support the formation of new state, instead of counting the political parties. 

P Chidambaram has set in a new criterion for formation of new states.  He expects that all political parties should support formation of Telangana and then he expects that each political party should in turn convince its members to come to the same opinion.  What he is basically expecting is that 100% of the elected members of Andhra Pradesh should accept the decision of formation of Telangana.  Such unanimity is unheard of in a democracy.  With that kind of expectation one basically rules out the possibility of formation of Telangana forever.  In fact, it will ensure that no state formation will happen in this country for all times to come.

The architects of Indian Constitution understood the implications of majority suppressing a minority forever in the State Assembly.  Therefore, they gave complete powers to the Parliament to take a decision without seeking the approval from the state.  The Honorable Shri K. Santanam, one of the architects of Indian Constitution, while rejecting the proposal where the consent from State Assembly is necessary for the formation of new state, writes:

it would mean that no minority in any State can ask for separation of territory, either for forming a new province or for joining an adjacent State unless it can get a majority in that State legislature… Take the case of the madras Province for instance. The Andhras want separation. They bring up a resolution in the madras legislature. It is defeated by a majority. There ends the matter. The way of the Andhras is blocked altogether. They cannot take any further step to constitute an Andhra province.

instead of democracy we will have absolute autocracy of the majority in every province and State.

The methods that were available for creation of Andhra State are now denied to the people of Andhra Pradesh.  Two legal cases which challenged the authority of Parliament to take unilateral decisions without taking consent from State Assembly have established that it is the right of the Parliament to create new states and that it is not mandatory for the State Assembly to provide the approval.  The aspiration of the people of the land is the most important reason why a state should be formed.  The message is loud and clear.  But our Home Minister refuses to hear it.  The whole reason why Telanganas want a new state is to escape from the subjugation of the majority of Seemandhras.  It is unreasonable to ask Telanganas to convince and impress upon the majority to support them in their fight for statehood.  

Over the last two years, people of Telangana have dealt so many betrayals, got affected by so many political machinations of subterfuge and deception, that they have been forced to grow up and mature up on an accelerated path.  They have lost their innocence.   They no longer look at the Indian Flag misty eyed full of foolish national fervor.  They are reminded of the number of times this country has betrayed them, deceived them and played with them.  With nearly 600 suicides recorded in the last two years for the cause of Telangana, the frustrations amongst 40 million people are running high.  The people are despondent and lost all hope because their dear India has failed to deliver justice and instead turned its back leaving the wailing, weeping and suffering victim to fend for itself. 

The history will not forgive this generation of Telangana leaders if they do not deliver upon the new state to rescue and save Telangana people from further subjugation.  Forty years from now, a new generation of Telanganas will call us the spineless betrayers.   

No longer can we entertain childish and foolish dreams that this government can be humane, that this administration is equipped to solve our problems.  If we still continue to profess faith in the current leadership in India to resolve the issue, then we are not just foolish but we are being suicidal.  The current administration says they can’t save us from the bully.  They expect us to grow in strength to combat the bully on our own.  They don’t want to intervene.  They don’t think it is their responsibility to deliver justice.  All the courts are closed to us.  All the administration offices are closed to us.  All the constitutional guarantees and protections are closed to us.  Democracy has shut its door on our face and we are left in darkness, alone, scared, and helpless. 

There are very few times in the history where a certain group of people are left in such miserable state, stranded, left on their own to fight an unreasonable and merciless enemy, like Jews in Nazi Germany, or Tibetans in China.  Nobody offers help while the enemy continues to suppress the victims.  The Home Minister has put the onus of resolving the issue onto Telangana people.  We are on our own and there is no help coming.

Rise O Telangana! Rise!  Rise like you have never risen before.  Create space for yourself.  Create a voice for yourself.   Let’s force this country and the world to pay attention to our plight and grant Telangana.  Raise your voice now.  Let it be heard loud and clear, in the callous corridors of Indian Parliament, let it be heard in White House and Kremlin.  Fight your opponent within and your opponent outside.  That’s what the Union Government of India is telling you.   It is telling you that your constitutional methods are of no use.  It is telling you that unless you resort to the same tactics other regions have resorted to you will not be given a new state. 

44 comments:

  1. I dont quite buy the victim hood Model, We can Fight it out on our own we dont need No third Parties.

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  2. Sujai, an excellent post complementing your post titled "Telangana 83: Political Movement has failed".

    Quick summary:

    - Consensus or agreement may be desirable but not mandatory in the matter of state formation
    - The engineered collapse of the December 7 consensus is based on regions, not parties. PC does not want to acknowledge
    - Even in cases that require agreement, the federal Government must act as an arbitrator.
    - If Congress desires a broad agreement for political reasons, they should have initiated a time bound process on December 10 (or 23)

    It is clear that the Indian Government and the ruling party have both failed to fulfill their responsibilities. Even more importantly, they do not accept the ball is in their court.

    I agree with the spirit of your last paragraph. I always believed Telangana can only be achieved on the streets, not through back room manouevres.

    What next? For start, we should refuse to recognize the so called Andhra Pradesh. The state no longer has any legitimacy.

    We must call upon the resigned MLA's to set up a "people's assembly". If they fail to do so or sellout, we must do so ourselves. The deadline for this is August 17.

    The enemy is strong and armed. They are laying the ground for a "great betrayal". We must remain firm against deceipt, treachery and opportunism.

    One point of divergence: I do not agree "constitutional methods are of no use". Bandhas, dharnas, paralell assemblies, rasta rokos are all constituitional methods. (Some guys may not agree but remember pigs can't read the consitution).

    I would suggest "constitutional methods may not be adequate; all reasonable methods are acceptable in a just fight against an illegitimate ruler"

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  3. Jai:

    One point of divergence: I do not agree "constitutional methods are of no use". Bandhas, dharnas, paralell assemblies, rasta rokos are all constituitional methods.

    While I agree that bandhs, dharnas, rasta rokos, hunger strikes, are 'democratic', I do not necessarily call them 'constitutional methods'. That does not make them 'anti-constitutional' either. So, I am emphasizing that not all democratic methods are considered formally as constitutional methods. That does not necessarily make them anti-constitutional.

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  4. Jai:

    You have rightly summed it up.

    Quick summary:

    - Consensus or agreement may be desirable but not mandatory in the matter of state formation
    - The engineered collapse of the December 7 consensus is based on regions, not parties. PC does not want to acknowledge
    - Even in cases that require agreement, the federal Government must act as an arbitrator.
    - If Congress desires a broad agreement for political reasons, they should have initiated a time bound process on December 10 (or 23)

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  5. As per Chidambaram(on behalf of the Indian Govt.)'s latest statement he asked the telugu people to decide themselves so that Indian Govt will implement Telugu people's final decision.

    I am wondering can the Indian Govt give such choice to Kashmir, Assam etc?

    I am sure we would have been at war with Pakistan if our Indian govt gave the choice to people whether we should attack Pakistan or not.

    I really appreciate them if the give same choice about Lokpal bill.

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  6. Sujai, the constitution derives its legitimacy from the people ("we the people.."). This means while the state can only do what is expressly permitted by the constitution, the citizens are free to do anything that is not expressly prohibited.

    This is just to clarify my view on the "divergence".

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  7. Its pointless to deny the fact that KCR has been spearheading the fight for Telangana. But the misfortune for us is he believes only in manipulation and resignations and it has failed miserable. Its by his fast that the movement took off for Telangana. As long as we dont recognise that Telangana was deceived always by the Congress since the time of merger, we are going get royally screwed.
    I keep seeing so many organisations for Telangana formed. But none of them are able to do anything. We have to realise that only by agitation can we get what we want. Not for two or three days and then a gap, but for longer periods.
    We cant blame anyone else, but ourselves. Like idiots we keep electing Congress, and ofcourse KCR too for providing such poor leadership. Forget the Congress, let it be dumped into sewage gutter. Forget about parliament. Only option left for is agitation and bring the Indian govt. to knees.
    As you have mentioned in the article, i really dont care what happens to the country, when it doesnt even care for our wants. Why should we bother about India, but lets fight for Telangana.

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  8. హైదరాబాద్‌: ఈ నెల 15వ తేదీన స్వాతంత్ర్య దినోత్సవాలను బహిష్కరించాలని తెలంగాణకు చెందిన రాష్ట్ర మంత్రులు నిర్ణయం తీసుకున్నట్లు తెలుస్తోంది. రాష్ట్ర చరిత్రలోనే ఇటువంటి సంఘటన చోటు చేసుకోవడం ఇదే తొలిసారి. జిల్లాల్లో స్వాతంత్ర్య దినోత్సవాలను బహిషక్రించడంతో పాటు ఉత్సవ పెరేడ్‌ను కూడా బహిష్కరించాలని వారు అనుకుంటున్నారు. తెలంగాణ రాష్ట్ర సాధన కోసం రాజీనామాలు చేసిన తెలంగాణ మంత్రులు స్వాతంత్ర్య దినోత్సవ వేడుకలకు హాజరు కాకూడదని నిర్ణయించుకున్నారు.

    Source: OneIndia.in

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  9. @Vishal, if u do not care about India, get out of India. Is this anti-India forum now? If Gujarat/Bombay was important, why would Patel fight for India freedom?
    Sujai:
    Sure, go ahead and try to paint the picture that democracy has failed, violence in the only option etc etc. You will lose BJP, Communists and all India support.

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  10. Sujai-
    In a large scale conflict like this, why cann`t Telangana approach Supreme Court in interpreting the constitution for the government. We have so many instances of `judicial activism`, where large scale public interests are involved, court interpreting the constitutional provisions, if something is going wrong and directs the government of its responsibility.
    It is clear that our beloved & prestigious Home Mister of Government of India, unable to understand the constitutional provisions and mis-interpreting it and bending it weirdly to its convenience. This attitude is terribly bad. This is a threat to Indian democracy. Judiciary cannot direct the government in separating the state directly, but it can interpret the constitution rightly, reiterate and uphold the constitutional provisions and remind the union government of its responsibility. This is the high time the democratic institutions set an example when government is involved in wrong-doing and shouldering-off its responsibility.
    What is preventing Telangana from activating the Judiciary for a long hearing, when it is clear that the government is failing?

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  11. @Aravind:

    "Sure, go ahead and try to paint the picture that democracy has failed, violence in the only option etc etc. You will lose BJP, Communists and all India support"

    No one is advocating (atleast so far) violence as the only option. However it is clear that రాజకీయ పోరాటం ("political approach") has failed and can not be relied any further. It is now time to take up ఉద్యమబాట ("agitational route).

    Civil disobediance (a la mode Gandhi), Tahrir square style sit-ins or Gujjar style rail rokos will not result in loss of support from the all India players.

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  12. People from the northern states working in various private companies here are being frequently attacked.

    In a fresh case, Mr R.P. Singh, the head of the department (mines) of the S.K. Sarawagi Company, was attacked by the locals near Kothavalasa in Vizianagaram district on July 30.

    Soruce: Deccan Chronicle

    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/hyderabad/%E2%80%98hindi-speakers%E2%80%99-attacked-ap-district-660

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  13. తన ఇద్దరు పెళ్ళాలని, ముగ్గురు కొడుకులని ఒకటే ఇంట్లో ఉంచలేని లగడపాటి తెలుగు ప్రజలందరూ సమక్యంగా ఉండాలని ఎలా అడగగలడు ?

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  14. Its better to adopt the London Model, Lets turn Banjara hills in to Tottenham . We will make International headlines for sure.

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  15. What happened in London is Scary!

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  16. What happened in London is Scary!

    Dont worry. No such thing can/will happen in Hyderabad.

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  17. Sera,

    Such a thing is possible here too. Moral relativism where anything and everything is argued is the root cause of it. Very high in this movement.

    If failure is given a crutch of reasons then people will loot out of jealousy and a sense of false rebellion.

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  18. Hi Sujai,

    My name is KP and I follow your blog. I don't know if this is appropriate venue to request this, but would you please write your opinion about 498(A) dowry harassment case. You might have heard about lot of false allegations based on this case. I don't want this law to be removed as I still believe that there are lot more women are suffering because of dowry. But there are some cases where men are extorted for money. I am one of those victim. I have asked several lawyers if there is procedure exist to sign a contract by both parties that no dowry is involved during marriage. This won't help me but for others who are going to get married. They said any such contract wouldn't protect anyone from 498(A). My big concern is the law is completely written for majority of the cases under the assumption women never lie and they put their family ahead of their personal motives. I am doing my own research and would be great if you can shed some light on it.

    Best Regards

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  19. @Dharani

    It is not possible here - just the fear that backlash will be big. Unlike London where it was an unidentifiable mob on a trip, here the identities and pockets are clear.

    Look at the way Dalit-Dveshi Harish Rao had to backtrack after the Delhi incident.

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  20. i think it is the other way round
    telangana closed its doors to democracy when they
    *preventd jaggu and chandu naidu fropm touring in their region
    *when they assaulted non local leccturers in ou
    *when they burn buses at the drop of a hat
    *when they demolished statues
    and the list goes on

    similarly, seemandhra shut its doors to democracy when
    *they made a 180 degrees u turn on december 10th 2009
    *they are forcing an entire region to stay with them against their wishes

    there is a day by day growing "unmaadham" on both sides.

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  21. @nenusaitham

    You can say that currently the both sides closed the doors to democracy.

    But you should also understand that the very same democracy didnt help Telangana in the first place when the seemandra violated the merging agreement (Gentlement's agreement) and showed middle finger(by not accepting the mistake). When the democracy didnt help Telangana, why should Telangana respect it?

    In the same way if seemandra expects the democratic behaviour from Telangana, why dont they show us the real meaning of democracy in there actions?

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  22. Dear KP:

    I don't know if this is appropriate venue to request this, but would you please write your opinion about 498(A) dowry harassment case.

    Though I support the law that protects the women from harassment from men in principle, I have started to form serious doubts on the efficacy of 498(A). I understand that it has been misused a lot and I know of few cases where the husband and the family of the husband were harassed under the pretext of this law. The modern criminal justice has to take into account the universally agreed principle that it is OK to let go ten criminals so that no innocent is punished. I am beginning to believe that this is one criminal law which may be prosecuting innocents.

    I do not write about a topic unless I have a clear stand on the topic. 498(A) is one such topic where I have not made my stance clear. Though I sympathize with you and your case, and I know of really good friends who have been subject to the same harassment, I did not get a chance to dwell deep into the issue as yet. Therefore, I am not able to write an article on this at this point of time. Hope you understand.

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  23. Prof Vishweshwar Rao stated today that once T is formed he would like the educational institutes in T to be owned by T people. I am sad that such a moron was a professor at OU.

    He argues that these institutes are making money? so what? they are not doing charities. it is not mandatory for anyone to join them. all T kids should boycott these institutes? why aren't they doing that.

    I sincerely request Prof Rao to lead a happy and contented retired life.

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  24. @nenusaitham:

    Everything you accuse Telangana happened after December 10.

    Our grouse against ordinary Andhra people is primarily based on two points: 1). the U-turn of December 10 and 2). the indifference (or worse) towards the tragic loss of Telangana lives.

    Andhras effectively burnt the bridges with these. Any rapproachment (not unity) is possible only after addressing these two.

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  25. తెలంగాణ వాడినని చితకబాదారు
    వికారాబాద్‌, న్యూస్‌టుడే: ఉపాధ్యాయ శిక్షణ కోర్సు పరీక్ష రాయడానికి గుంటూరు జిల్లా పిడుగురాళ్లకు వెళ్తే తెలంగాణకి చెందిన వాడినని గుర్తించి చితకబాదారని రంగారెడ్డి జిల్లా శంకర్‌పల్లి మండలం మహాలింగపురానికి (దోబిపేట్‌) చెందిన తాళ్ల కిష్టయ్య అనే ఉపాధ్యాయ శిక్షణ కోర్సు విద్యార్థి శనివారం ఎస్పీకి ఫిర్యాదు చేశారు. బాధితుడు కిష్టయ్య కథనం ప్రకారం.. గుంటూరు జిల్లా పిడుగురాళ్ల మండలం రామిరెడ్డిపేటలోని గీతిక డీఎడ్‌ కళాశాలలో 2010-12 విద్యా సంవత్సరానికి ప్రవేశం పొందారు. ఈనెల 8న పరీక్షలు రాయడానికి కళాశాలకు వెళ్లారు. పరీక్ష రాసిన అనంతరం ఓ హోటల్‌కు వెళ్లి భోజనం చేసిన అనంతరం తెలంగాణ యాసలో మాట్లాడుతున్న కిష్టయ్యను నలుగురు వ్యక్తులు ప్రశ్నించారు. రంగారెడ్డి జిల్లా వికారాబాద్‌ ప్రాంతానికి చెందినవాడినని బదులివ్వడంతో ఆగ్రహించారు. మీ ప్రాంతంలో జైతెలంగాణ అంటుంటే మా ప్రాంతానికి పరీక్షలు రాయడానికి వస్తావా అంటూ చితకబాదారు. రేపటిలోగా మా ప్రాంతం వదిలిపెట్టి వెళ్లకపోతే హత్య చేసి శవాన్ని మురుగుకాల్వలో పడేస్తామని హెచ్చరించారు. బెదిరింపులకు భయపడి కిష్టయ్య మిగతా పరీక్షలు రాయకుండానే వెనుతిరిగాడు. ఇదే విషయాన్ని పేర్కొంటూ ఎస్పీకి ఫిర్యాదు చేశారు.

    Source: Eenadu, 14 Aug 2011

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  26. @green star
    no doubt what happend there is wrong, but then:

    *students jac warned openly in a public meeting that andhra employees would be assaulted if they sresort to work during the now-postponed strike

    *manchirial mla gaddam aravind reddy openly asked seemandhra employees that they wont be allowed to stay here.same thing was repeated by nagam a day later

    *bhago jago
    *sankaranthiki ooruki vellina vallani tigrigi raanivvam
    *mahboobnagar dsp was brutally injured just because he caught a local inspector taking bribe in jadcherla

    *farmhouse of a seemandhra person was ransacked and his garden burnt

    *ou student prevented seemandhraites from attending interviews as well as pg counselling

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  27. any seemandhraite who hurts telangana people in their region are, in my opinion idiots of the highest order.

    instead, last yr harish rao,ktr,eetela rajender and others attended the marriage of trs mla dasyam vinay bhaskar in tirupathi.
    they should have questioned(and NOT assalulted) them then and there.

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  28. @greenstar

    i rephrase my second comment

    any seemandhraite who hurts telanganaites in SA are, in my opinion idiots of the highest order.
    instead, they should have quiestioned telangana leaders(and NOT assaluted) who visit their places.
    recently madhu yashki and komatireddy were in tirumala,
    jana reddy visited anantapur, and so on

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  29. As usual, an exercise in intellectual masturbation. Sujai is the quintessential Don Quixote who is on the lookout for larger than life villains. If they are not around, he will charge at windmills.

    The fundamental issue here is not whether Assembly resolution is necessary for creating a state or not. If your ludicrous logic is stretched to its illogical limits, then the question arises whether any group of people can demand a state on the same ground.

    Let's say Muslims who constitute around 40 percent of Hyderabad would like to have a state of their own in the old city. Aren't they entitled for the same, going by your logic? Besides, the arguments for self-rule, reinstating the old Hyderabad state, cultural, linguistic and religious differences suit them as well. They are a minority and they are backward too.

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  30. @nenusaitham

    no doubt what happend there is wrong, but then:

    That is exactly I was talking. You are talking like you have two tongues. You say that incident(Eenadu news) is wrong and at the same time you trying to justify by comparing it with incidents happened in Telangana. That is really bad.

    When SA people do atleast one single attack on Telangana@ in Seemandra then they have no moral right to question the attacks/threats on Seemandra@ in Telangana.

    http://missiontelangana.com/?p=1929
    http://missiontelangana.com/?p=1905
    http://missiontelangana.com/?p=1969
    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/channels/cities/hyderabad/%E2%80%98hindi-speakers%E2%80%99-attacked-ap-district-660

    What ever the attacks happened on SA people in TG has some background story(mahboobnagar dsp), none of us really know that it happened really because of region conflict. It could be personal differences and later colored it with regional conflict.

    Any way as of my knowledge till now no TG people simply go to SA people and beat them up(like Eenadu news and the link I mentioned above).

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  31. Let's say Muslims who constitute around 40 percent of Hyderabad would like to have a state of their own in the old city. Aren't they entitled for the same, going by your logic?

    They could be. They can get there own state if the are able to get the approval in the Parliament. That is exactly we are asking. Put the bill in Parliament, you can defeat the bill so that you can shut our mouths. All we ask is to put the bill and let total India(not just SAs) decide our fate. That is what the Indian constitution saying and we are asking to execute it.

    reinstating the old Hyderabad state,
    Dont say you just came out from a cave. We are not asking to reinstate Hyderabad state, we are asking to reinstate the Telangana state which was suggested by Fazal Ali Commission.

    the arguments for self-rule, reinstating the old Hyderabad state, cultural, linguistic and religious differences suit them as well. They are a minority and they are backward too.

    You forgot few other things in the list

    *Betrayal of agreements
    *Stealing Telangana jobs
    *Stealing Telangana funds
    *Stealing Telangana reserved water
    ............
    ...........
    ..............
    ....

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  32. తెలంగాణ కోసం ఉద్యమిస్తున్న సీమాంధ్ర సెటిలర్స్ చైతన్య యాత్ర సోమవారం జెఏసి కార్యాలయానికి చేరుకుంది. ఈ సందర్భంగా వారు మాట్లాడుతూ సమైక్యాంధ్ర నినాదం పాలకులది మాత్రమే అన్నారు. అక్కడి ప్రజలు సైతం విడిపోయి అభివృద్ధి చెందుతామన్న భావనతో ఉన్నారని అన్నారు. త్వరలో అక్కడ జై ఆంధ్రా ఉద్యమం పుట్టుకు వస్తుందని వారు అభిప్రాయపడ్డారు.

    Source: Oneindia.in

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  33. @green star

    oka vyakthi inkodi meedha daadi cheyyadam thappu.
    kaani oka mla lanti padhavilo unna vyakthi publicga oka community mothhaniki dhamki ivvadam daaniki minchina thappu.
    dont u think so???

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  34. telanagana and seemandhra werre different from the beginning of mankind

    tjac

    my answer to them:
    http://images.nationmaster.com/images/motw/historical/india1760_1905.jpg

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  35. @nenusaitham:

    Can you please post link to the "bhago jago" statement, thanks. I will appreciate a news paper report from Rediff/Sify or e-papers (i.e. not gossip sites).

    The same goes for the alleged Pongal holiday threat too.

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  36. Jai,

    Can you please post link to the "bhago jago" statement, thanks. I will appreciate a news paper report from Rediff/Sify or e-papers (i.e. not gossip sites).

    The same goes for the alleged Pongal holiday threat too.


    Will you believe if genuine scanned news papers are shown?
    Also what you offer if they are proven correct?

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  37. Also what you offer if they are proven correct?

    We will offer "THANKS".
    ;-)

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  38. @nenusaitham
    oka vyakthi inkodi meedha daadi cheyyadam thappu.
    kaani oka mla lanti padhavilo unna vyakthi publicga oka community mothhaniki dhamki ivvadam daaniki minchina thappu.
    dont u think so???


    A MLA means he didn't descended from god. From several decades we are seeing all good and bad MLAs. In my opinion kicking a person is lot more worse sin than threatening.

    For example, Bin Laden used(on behalf of all muslims in the world) to threaten to destroy USA and its people. How would you react if USA start killing all Muslims in the world because of this? Ofcourse Bin Ladan has lot more fans in Muslims community, but still this do not justify killing muslims.

    If you still want to argue please move the topic to latest blog post, I wont be checking this thread later.

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  39. heights of irony
    vijashanthi who cant even speak a single sentence in telangana slang became famous by "prathighatana" film. as far as in remember, it was the first film in which one of the villans spoke in telangana slang.and she acted as a protaganist in that film.
    today she considers herself as a reincarnation of rani rudrama devi.
    her career reached a peak with osey ramulamma film where she played a downtrodden victim fighting against the "doras".
    today one dora onsider her as his sister.

    by the way, i wonder if tommorow i act as shirdi sai baba or shivaji in a film or drama, can i become an m.p. in maharashtra SOLELY on that basis???

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  40. >>by the way, i wonder if tommorow i act as shirdi sai baba or shivaji in a film or drama, can i become an m.p. in maharashtra SOLELY on that basis???

    How your question links to this post?

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  41. @green star

    because vijayashanthi, though being a non telanganaite got democratically elected as m.p here only because she made herself popular as a telangana women in osey ramulamma film.
    no other extra qualification i suppose

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  42. only because she made herself popular as a telangana women in osey ramulamma film.

    I doubt that, I dont know how you got that crazy conclusion, few decades back Indira Gandhi was elected from Medak, did she acted in any movie related to Telangana?

    I still dont understand how this topic related here in this post?

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  43. What happened to your article on Hyderabad I saw a couple of hours ago. Looks like there must be a problem with blogger.

    Anyway I must say it was a poor attempt at a veiled threat. You are welcome to execute it.

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