Wednesday, January 05, 2011

Telangana 70: Solution is in politics, not in statistics

When SriKrishna committee was constituted, I wrote the following on 15 Feb 2010:

…we should completely, unanimously and categorically reject Srikrishna Committee as a political solution to the current situation in Telangana, because it doesn’t provide one.  There should no expectation whatsoever that Srikrishna Committee will provide a solution to the current problem in the state.  What is needed is not another ‘study’, not another ‘research’, but an action that demonstrates political expediency, a political and unequivocal decision that solves the problem of Telangana right away – which is creation of Telangana…Let’s make it clear to ourselves now.  We don’t want to be a guinea pig for another social research. 

The solution to Telangana problem lies in political decisions, not in committees, studies or research.  We have had 53 years of overwhelming evidence of false promises and broken agreements.   That is good enough to demerge this state which was formed on a conditional merger based on set of safeguards and protections which were all flouted or revoked.  

On 25 Feb 2010, I wrote:

There are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics. One look at the fields of Telangana and Andhra would tell you the state of affairs.   Facts can be interpreted the way you want to.   India did not fight for independence from Britain on a statistic.  Andhra State was not formed from Madras State on a statistic. What we need is a political decision, not a statistical report.

Repeating myself, I say, the solution to the current situation in Telangana lies in politics, not  in statistics.   Therefore, any statistical interpretation given on Telangana should be rejected by Telangana people, whether it supports their cause or not. 

Political parties are not representatives of people

We should all read our Indian Constitution and understand it very well.  It will teach us how a democracy works.  Especially, the two people who need to read it on an urgent basis are P Chidambaram and Abhishek Sanghvi.  Political parties do not represent people.  Elected leaders represent people.  In a democracy, it is the elected leaders, not political parties, form the voice of the people.  To understand the mood of the people, one should get a vote from elected leaders, not political parties.   Some parties could have 2 elected leaders while some could have 150 elected leaders, so how come they are being treated equal?  Where did we go wrong with Indian democracy that we started to count the political parties and not the elected representatives?  Why are political outfits being called for consultations and asked of consensus? 

Indian Constitution does not recognize a political party as a legal constituent.  The only true representative of people is the elected leaders, not the political party.  A show of hands amongst the elected leaders of Telangana, irrespective of their political party, will tell you that people want Telangana.  That is true democracy, counting the number of elected leaders from a region who support separate state, not counting the political parties on where they stand.  We should completely reject this practice of calling political parties to New Delhi.  Instead the representatives should represent the region and carry the count of elected leaders of the region in support of Telangana. 

60 comments:

  1. Sujai anna, its time telangana people get united, and show what it means telangana pride. Seemandra people (read one caste called kamma), masked with their fraternity media like TV9, Eenadu, Andhra Jyothy, are behind this sad state of affairs in the last one year. They need to be taught a lesson by OU JAC, by stopping their businesses in a non-violent non-cooperative way.

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  2. Yes, elected leaders are reps of ppl. By calling one or two reps from a party, the Center, wants them to convey the stand of all the elected members of the party. You need not call all the MLAs to a meeting.

    Another way of doing this is to put a voting in the assembly, as it has been done previously in the creation of other states.

    This has nothing to do with the constitution, but common sense.

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  3. You make a haste conclusion. It is appropriate that representatives from all political parties be allowed to give their opinion. You are right that political parties are not basic elements of democracy. However, as long as a whip culture exists, for all practical purposes, it is the representatives of political parties that should get a mandate of the concerned parties to express their opinion. In any case, the meeting on 6th is not going to ammend the constitution. This will only give a clearer pricture, hopefully with less noise, to the central government of the day. It will be the parliament and the state assembly that will take the final call.

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  4. Anonymous:

    By calling one or two reps from a party, the Center, wants them to convey the stand of all the elected members of the party.

    Which is exactly what this article is criticizing, that to know the mood of a region, the representative should represent the stand of a region, not that of a political party.

    Another way of doing this is to put a voting in the assembly, as it has been done previously in the creation of other states.

    Once again, this is not the method prescribed in Indian Constitution. Article 3 clearly obviate such a situation by ensuring the decision is taken in the Parliament, not in the State Assembly.

    This has nothing to do with the constitution, but common sense.

    Somehow your commonsense is not looking like commonsense.

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  5. Mishra:

    It will be the parliament and the state assembly that will take the final call.

    Agree with Parliament part, but not with State Assembly part. (Article 3).

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  6. Supreme court clearly says before state is divided, one should listen state assembly opinion.

    Before state assembly gives their opinion, they need to discuss on this issue.

    State government cannot even let this issue discuss in assembly. Because most of elected leaders wants to resign, if some body proposes for discussion. It means state assembly cannot give its opinion. It means parliament cannot take action on this issue.

    Mean time some politicians make lot of money.

    Being a chess player, I like stalemate, which is not good for any group.

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  7. ChessMaster:

    Supreme court clearly says before state is divided, one should listen state assembly opinion.

    Which country?
    If in India, please provide a precedent.

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  8. Sujai,

    In reality, most people vote for party, not a person. When voting, most of the times people barely know anything about the representative they are voting for. This is very unfortunate but it is what happens. The time between filing a nomination and the the actual election day is what, 4 weeks? What can one know about the person in that time, who they never even heard of before in their life. That is why there is such a clamour for getting a party ticket during elections. Depending on the mood of the people, most of the battle is won at ticket time.

    I find it accurate that KCR wants only one representative from each party at the meeting in Delhi. Since the meeting is party based, every party should have a fixed stand on the issue.

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  9. Sridhar P:

    In reality, most people vote for party, not a person.

    That does not mean Constitution of India will now be change to say that parties represent the people and not the elected leaders. What drives people to vote is irrelevant. What if we get to know that people vote based on a representative’s caste? Will we now call all the caste groups to New Delhi to discuss?

    Since the meeting is party based, every party should have a fixed stand on the issue.

    I disagree there. The meeting cannot be party based to start with. What about independents? Why major parties only?

    Does not make sense, and it is not even democratic. And not even prescribed in Constitution.

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  10. Same Parties (TDP, Congress & PRP) had meeting in December 2009 and everyone supported for Telangana and changed their stands once Central Government announced formation of Telangna. Now what is the reason of calling same people this time.
    Looks like UPA just want's to drag this issue further.

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  11. Sunil: "Looks like UPA just want's to drag this issue further."

    UPA? I'd say just about every politician and political party wants to drag this. Next election is in 2014 and "Time is money".

    The wild card however is Jagan. The congress could as well go to him and say "here take your CM post and take care of the for noise from telangana" .. who knows.

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  12. Supreme court clearly says before state is divided, one should listen state assembly opinion.

    Indian constitution is the supreme in India, but not the Supreme Court. Our constitution clearly says Parliament takes the decision, no need for assembly decision.

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  14. In the same way all representatives of Hyderabad should be asked to vote whether they want a UT like Pondicherry or a separate state of Hyderabad.

    Same way to go. No two standards,

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  15. Elected leaders represent people. In a democracy, it is the elected leaders, not political parties, form the voice of the people.

    Absolutely right. We should have a vote among the elected representatives of Greater Hyderabad. Already 11 MLAs of 13 MLAs of Congress have signed a paper for UT status for Hyderabad. We know where MIM may go. That only leaves TDP who may also support. And JP may actually be against it or abstain from such voting as he considers this a non-issue.

    So the majority of elected representatives want Hyderabad a UT in the style of Pondicherry or a separate state of Hyderabad.

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  16. I miss Aditya in this blog ,where is he..Telngana meet is about to begin

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  17. Just in case you want to check the report - http://mha.nic.in/pdfs/CCSAP-REPORT-060111.pdf
    Warning : GOI still lives in stone age with it's IT infrastructure! You might not be able to download it anytime soon

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  18. To all those who argued that andhras wanted hyderabad to be the capital....pl read the SKC report

    Shri M.R.Krishna, MP from Karimnagar, talking on the same Bill on August 19,
    1953, mentioned on similar lines:
    “ I would like to say that if the temporary capital of Andhra is
    located somewhere outside Hyderabad, then, after some time when
    the Government of India decides that Hyderabad should be
    disintegrated, it would create more problems for the people of
    Hyderabad who have been all the time patiently hearing and acting
    on the advice of the Central Government. Therefore, I would say
    that instead of locating the temporary capital outside Hyderabad,
    Hyderabad should be immediately disintegrated and the capital
    should be located in Hyderabad.”
    Shri Krishnacharya Joshi, M.P. from Yadagiri, in the same session mentioned:
    “Many people hold the view that unless Hyderabad is disintegrated
    and the 8 districts of Telangana integrated with the Andhra State,
    the Andhra State will remain incomplete.…………………….”

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  19. To quote a few, Shri Heda,
    MP from Nizamabad, on August 19, 1953, while speaking on the Andhra State Bill
    mentioned in the Lok Sabha:
    “Unfortunately, in the whole of Andhra, that is the 11 districts there
    is no single town, which, I think, would be worth calling even a
    district centre. Fortunately, in Hyderabad, we have got a
    readymade capital, one of the best cities in the whole of India, very
    good cement roads, many buildings and all the amenities of city
    life. Therefore, if a decision about Hyderabad city could have been
    taken, Hyderabad city would have been a very easy and ready
    capital and so many difficulties and hurdles would have been easily
    overcome……….
    If Hyderabad is going to be the future capital of Vishal Andhra, why
    not create those links; why not develop those links which are
    7
    already there and thereby facilitate the future location of your
    capital? That is my point………

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  20. However, at the Chief
    Ministers‟ conference on October 22, 1955, Andhra and Hyderabad Chief
    Ministers suggested immediate merger of Telangana and Andhra instead of
    waiting for five years as proposed by the SRC. In this situation, the Hyderabad
    Assembly discussed an official resolution on SRC Report from November 25 to
    December 3, 1955. The trend of the debate was that, out of the 174 members
    of the House barring the Speaker, who participated in the discussion, 147
    members expressed their views. Of these, 103 favoured Vishalandhra, 29
    favoured independent Hyderabad state and 15 remained neutral.

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  21. Six options from SKC

    1. Status Quo
    2. HYD UT, state bifurcation
    3. Rayala Telangana, Andhra bifurcation
    4. State bifurcation, HYD joint capital
    5. State bifurcation, Seemandra get new capita, HYD is telangana capital
    6. Status Quo with Autonomous status for Telangana.

    As per Chidambaram, SKC thought the first three options are unimplementable. So, UT, and UA(SA) supporters, you can pack your bags from this blog.

    Any one has the full report?

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  22. :) you too prepare packing your bag bud! sixth option looks like the one to make it.

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  23. sixth option looks like the one to make it.

    This option is already implemented in gurkha land and it is failed miserably.

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  24. "The solution to Telangana problem lies in political decisions, not in committees, studies or research"

    "the solution to the current situation in Telangana lies in politics, not in statistics"

    Shouldn't political decisions be backed by studies and research, which are based on Statistics? Surely, a rational being like you won't recommend a political decision simply based on emotions?

    I am currently going through the SK committee report which has recommended many options, clearly stating the pros and cons of each.

    IPO Telengana is more like US Civil War than Indian freedom struggle.

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  25. SKC says there first recommended option is Option-6 (status quo,autonomous status for Telangana), second recommended is option-5 (state bifurcation).

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  26. It is funny for SKC to say that option 1 is not implementable, and then suggest option 6, which is a slight variant of option 1 :)

    1.Status quo is what we have now.No need to do any thing to implement it.Enough police force in twin cities, and the agitators will get tired after a while. I am not saying I favor this option, but I guess this is what Congress has in mind, especially the CM Kiran Kumar Reddy.

    6. What this option really means - if the dumbo politicos can understand English that is- there will be one State, but practically two governments- making use of a Constitutional provision for such autonomous institutions.

    The argument that such councils or authorities did not work earlier is no argument at all. If Gorkhaland case is seen as failure by some, the Union govt sees it as a partial success. Also, we have a Damodar Valley Authority which was initially a success, but later Union govt lost interest and reduced the autonomy. In US, they have a Tennessee Valley Authority(TVA) which is still going strong.

    The beauty of the autonomous council argument for the Union govt and for the MPs/MLAs:

    1.No impact on Lok Sabha or Rajya Sabha composition

    2.Members of Autonomous Council have State Minister rank. So, one can have a shadow Telangana cabinet from among the Telangana MLAs with its own leader, and they can all define and control the budget.And also make special rules for Telangana subject to State Assembly approval by simple majority. They can also invite people like Sujai to shift their companies by giving better benefits than other regions or states.

    3.No need to touch Hyderabad.

    4.The State of AP can still survive as an entity keeping the Telugu cultural nationalists satisfied.Also, the state will not lose its bargaining power.

    If some one can explain to the politicians that option 6 is in their benefit, they would readily accept it, I think.After all, the Telangana movement is seen by Union Govt as a political issue.The people, as per the Govt's thinking (shaped by Congress and TRS leaders actions and inputs from Kodandaram and others), are malleable as long as their developmental concerns are addressed.

    A very interesting report.Just finished reading the first hundred pages. And this is what strikes me so far.

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  28. SKC report working link in PDF format ...

    http://www.inewstelugu.com/video/srikrishna_report.zip


    home minstry link does not work

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  29. @Green,

    http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fslidesha.re%2Fg5Cll2&h=67c38


    What a waste of time and money!!!!

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  30. As per Chidambaram, SKC thought the first three options are unimplementable. So, UT, and UA(SA) supporters, you can pack your bags from this blog.


    Bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh into Seemandhra and Telangana
    with enlarged Hyderabad Metropolis as a separate Union
    Territory. This Union Territory will have geographical linkage
    and contiguity via Nalgonda district in the south-east to Guntur district in coastal Andhra and via Mahboobnagar district in the south to Kurnool district in Rayalaseema.

    This is the fourth option Green Star

    Already I am getting positive calls from guys in Medak, Mehboobnagar and Nalgonda. They say they like it.

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  31. UnitedIndian:

    Shouldn't political decisions be backed by studies and research, which are based on Statistics? Surely, a rational being like you won't recommend a political decision simply based on emotions?

    What study, research or statistic was used to decide India’s Independence? What study, research or statistics was used to deny Junagadh and Nizam Kingdom an independent status?

    What study, research or statistic was used to carve Andhra State out of Madras State? Or Gujarat out of Bombay State?

    IPO Telengana is more like US Civil War than Indian freedom struggle.

    Looks like you do not know anything about US Civil War or about Indian Freedom Struggle.

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  32. Reg BGRF...so much spoken here

    Another factor considered as a special case is the presence of left wing
    extremism. For example, five districts in Andhra Pradesh namely Nizamabad,
    Karimnagar, Medak, Khammam and Nalgonda, which are all from Telangana
    region are included in the RSVY on the recommendation of the Ministry of Home
    Affairs. These left wing affected districts constitute 46 % population of Telangana
    (including Hyderabad) and about 19 % of the population of Andhra Pradesh. On
    the basis of other backwardness characteristics, four districts from Telangana,
    three from Rayalaseema and one from coastal Andhra are listed under BRGF. The
    BRGF population covered due to backwardness works out to be 41% (including
    Hyderabad) in Telangana, 74% in Rayalaseema and only 7% in coastal Andhra.
    Of the total 87% population covered by BRGF in Telangana, 46 % is covered
    under extremist affected districts selection criteria. Thus, a large percentage of
    population from Rayalaseema, relatively smaller percentage from Telangana and
    very small percentage from coastal Andhra were backward as per the BRGF
    backwardness identification criteria. Hence, the argument extended by some
    political parties and civil society groups from Telangana region does not get
    support from this analysis of the BRGF.

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  33. Sujai said

    What study, research or statistic was used to decide India’s Independence? What study, research or statistics was used to deny Junagadh and Nizam Kingdom an independent status?

    What study, research or statistic was used to carve Andhra State out of Madras State? Or Gujarat out of Bombay State?


    That is why the fourth option is best.

    Bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh into Seemandhra and Telangana
    with enlarged Hyderabad Metropolis as a separate Union
    Territory. This Union Territory will have geographical linkage
    and contiguity via Nalgonda district in the south-east to Guntur district in coastal Andhra and via Mahboobnagar district in the south to Kurnool district in Rayalaseema.


    And like Sujai says there is no need for any statistics etc etc etc.

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  34. "Bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh into Seemandhra and Telangana
    with enlarged Hyderabad Metropolis as a separate Union
    Territory. This Union Territory will have geographical linkage
    and contiguity via Nalgonda district in the south-east to Guntur district in coastal Andhra and via Mahboobnagar district in the south to Kurnool district in Rayalaseema."

    Just like the divide and rule policy of the British.

    Complete hogwash...

    Why were only districts from Telangana chosen/suggested to be separated to form a larger UT?????

    That would make Andhra with 13 districts and Telangana with 5...

    Dumbest suggestion of the century...

    Rejected...not acceptable on ethical and moral grounds...


    "Already I am getting positive calls from guys in Medak, Mehboobnagar and Nalgonda. They say they like it."

    I'm sure they are all from real estate agents.....

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  35. @Sera

    "Bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh into Seemandhra and Telangana
    with enlarged Hyderabad Metropolis as a separate Union
    Territory. This Union Territory will have geographical linkage
    and contiguity via Nalgonda district in the south-east to Guntur district in coastal Andhra and via Mahboobnagar district in the south to Kurnool district in Rayalaseema."

    Just like the divide and rule policy of the British.

    Complete hogwash...

    Why were only districts from Telangana chosen/suggested to be separated to form a larger UT?????

    That would make Andhra with 13 districts and Telangana with 5...

    Dumbest suggestion of the century...

    Rejected...not acceptable on ethical and moral grounds...


    "Already I am getting positive calls from guys in Medak, Mehboobnagar and Nalgonda. They say they like it."

    I'm sure they are all from real estate agents.....

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  36. I'm sure they are all from real estate agents

    You can be sure they are not. They came to me. The people in Nalgonda, Medak and Mehboobnagar are really happy.

    They want a UT.

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  37. What ethical and moral grounds were there to split the erstwhile Hyderabad state?

    Like Sujai says no reports, no statistics etc are needed.

    So Greater Hyderabad as a UT with Medak, Nalgonda, Mehboobnagar is the right solution.

    I suspect whether the other districts of Telangana are jealous of these five districts or they want to fleece them.

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  38. Already I am getting positive calls from guys in Medak, Mehboobnagar and Nalgonda. They say they like it.

    By the way, I am from Medak.

    Any way, the SKC ruled out the Status Quo, and HYD UT options. I am half happy about that.

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  39. Sera,

    The new President of the Chamber of Commerce of UT of Hyderabad...

    Relax.....

    That was just a suggestion,not the solution...

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  40. Lavanya,

    I found the report links in Sakshi.com, report links in sakshi is downloadable as pdf files.

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  41. @Sera,

    The people in Nalgonda, Medak and Mehboobnagar are really happy.

    They want a UT.

    How many people from these regions came to talk to you????

    Please provide some statistics...

    I am really curious to know how much percentage of population they represent,of the said districts....

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  42. @Green,


    It's a complete waste of time.....

    I felt like I had a extra dosage of sweetness,after browsing through a few chapters....

    They did inform us that they were going to make a MAJORITY number of people happy...haven't they???

    I don't even want to read through the whole thing...

    It is such a waste of Indian taxpayers money ......

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  43. So Greater Hyderabad as a UT with Medak, Nalgonda, Mehboobnagar is the right solution.

    I suspect whether the other districts of Telangana are jealous of these five districts or they want to fleece them.


    People can be so stupid that it is unimaginable if evolution actually works.

    We can add all the districts of Telangana to Hyd and make a sate. And that state is called Telangana.

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  44. It is such a waste of Indian taxpayers money ......

    Yup, I felt the same, what they did is the received reports from various groups in AP and made a balanced report to satisfy every one.

    Why I am saying that 'balanced report' is ..for example

    Some where they gave a graph kind of chart showing that Telangana is largely depending on borewells, and very less availability of canals. I am happy with it.

    In some other places they saying Telangana using more electricity power for irrigation and using major share of state govt subsidiaries. But they fail to mention that this is happening only because Telangana depends more on borewells..

    Like above, there are many....

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  45. By the way this report stated that State govt broke the gentlemen agreement by recruiting SeemAandra people for Telangana reserved jobs.

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  46. Sujai said:
    People can be so stupid that it is unimaginable if evolution actually works.

    We can add all the districts of Telangana to Hyd and make a sate. And that state is called Telangana.


    True. People can be so stupid. You can call the whole of AP as Telangana and move on. :)

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  47. You can call the whole of AP as Telangana and move on

    that is unimplementable as per the great study done by SKC.

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  48. that is unimplementable as per the great study done by SKC.

    That is why the fourth option s best for me. And the people I know in Medak, Nalgonda and Mehboobnagar agree. Actually few are skeptical. I told them I will speak to them at length in few days. Actually one said it is good because they feel discriminated - now that came as a surprise to me. Discriminated by other Telanganites? - I am yet to check. So don't want to speak as I want to speak to more than one person and take their opinion. I asked my manager in our Nalgonda factory to do a small survey on what this discrimination issues is.

    I know there are people who want the fifth or 6th option.

    But I support the 4th option.

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  49. We would be so happy with option 4.
    Our long cherished dreams of merging into Hyd may come true.
    Our long reports and detailed presentations to SKC seems to have had some effect after all.

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  50. "That is why the fourth option s best for me."

    There you go....best for you,not for THEM or for US,but you...


    "And the people I know in Medak, Nalgonda and Mehboobnagar agree."

    I asked for statistics and numbers....


    "Actually few are skeptical."

    "Actually one said it is good"

    "I want to speak to more than one person and take their opinion."


    Sera,you are basing your theory on the opinions of one or two people!!!

    I am not surprised....

    "I asked my manager in our Nalgonda factory to do a small survey on what this discrimination issues is."

    To protect your own investments in their districts...exploiting their resources.....

    I am sure you belong to the Tata and Ambani group of corporate social responsibility.....

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  51. Lavanya when you speak note that you don't speak for US or for THEM.

    As much as you asked for statistics I would also ask for the same and we know there are none. All your 99% is humbug and plain rhetoric.

    I am basing my opinion on the maximum number of people I can reach out to. And yes I will make my efforts to "educate and inform" people of the advantages of having a UT to the people of Nalgonda district at least in which I have some ground strength.

    I hear that Medak is already leaning.

    And Mehboobnagar I have no idea. Lets see.

    It would be arrogant on my part to say I speak for a majority so it would be for you too.

    And its easy to blame and abuse Lavanya. Think coolly. After all jobs are created by entrepreneurs not by govt.

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  52. POK,


    "Our long cherished dreams of merging into Hyd may come true."

    I wish you had a little more sense and asked for more power to yourself and your people than some ruler/leader sitting in Hyderabad.....

    You would have been better off asking for new towns and cities to be developed in Mahbubnagar than an utopian 250 kms of Hyderabad.


    "Our long reports and detailed presentations to SKC seems to have had some effect after all."


    Respect cannot be asked,it has to be earned.Looks like all these years of asking the leaders has left it's mark afterall...

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  53. sera:

    As much as you asked for statistics I would also ask for the same and we know there are none. All your 99% is humbug and plain rhetoric.

    If you pay attention, you will get the data you want. Oh, I didn't realize you can't read or write Telugu. Anyway, I will translate it for you here. For example:

    According to Andhrajyothi (Telugu) magazine, 29 December 2010, 96% in Telangana Southern Districts demand separate Telangana.

    So, you better go ask your friends (like POK) if Mahbubnagar and Nalgonda are considered North Telangana or South Telangna. BTW, North points upwards to the top of the page on a Google map.

    http://www.andhrajyothy.com/pdffiles/2010/Dec/29/main/page2.pdf

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  54. Sera,

    "when you speak note that you don't speak for US or for THEM."

    Neither do YOU speak for the lakhs and crores of fellow Telanganites....

    You are telling me your 5-10% representation can demand a lions share in deciding the fate of more than 90% of the population here.

    I am astounded by your logic..


    "As much as you asked for statistics I would also ask for the same and we know there are none."

    "All your 99% is humbug and plain rhetoric."

    http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=166426653398702&set=a.166426603398707.28775.100000941045952

    Over to you Sera.......

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  55. SKC report
    2.15.01

    One of the major arguments for a separate state of Telangana has been that since the formation of the state of AP, this region has been neglected and even discriminated against, resulting in economic and social hardship.
    Compared with coastal Andhra, it is alleged that Telangana has low per capita income, lower access to employment, lower business opportunities and low access to education and so on. It is also alleged that most of the higher level economic opportunities are appropriated by those belonging to coastal Andhra.
    At the outset, some or all such allegations appear true when absolute amounts, numbers and percentages are reviewed. Yet, when a study of rate of change, growth rate and shares in the state economy is evaluated, nothing unusual emerges. Telangana excluding Hyderabad, currently has a share of 36% in state population and 41% in state land mass. Any development parameter that is consistent with these shares can be considered on par or at parity with the population / share of land mass. Indeed, one finds that at a reference point in the past, such as the census 1961 or 1956 or 1974 since when factual data are available, the shares for Telangana were far too low (refer to Figure 2.44). In recent years, however the shares of Telangana for many common development parameters are in league with the share of population / area, often being higher.

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  56. I asked my manager in our Nalgonda factory to do a small survey on what this discrimination issues is.

    And by the way that manager is from Seemandra.

    the people I know in Medak, Nalgonda and Mehboobnagar agree.

    The people I know in HYD want TG formation with HYD capital. As I belongs to Medak, there is not question from my district want to be part of AP or any crappy UT. The people I know in Vijayawada, Guntur, Nellure, Vijaz are happy to be separated. by the way MIM said Jai Telangana. Just now lagadapati announced that he is go with bifurcation , TG with HYD capital, they will discuss about there new capital.


    This is how I can talk any thing with out a base. I can even say that currently aliens are started occupying our planet and US continent is already under there control.

    Whats use with useless talk?

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  57. Sera: "Already I am getting positive calls from guys in Medak, Mehboobnagar and Nalgonda. They say they like it."

    Guys please read the SKC summary for yourself before listening to Sera.

    The fourth option says mentions Hyd along with Rangareddy, Nalgonda and Mahaboobnagar. (Nalgonda: to provide Hyd access via Guntur for Costa people), (Mahaboobnagar: to provide Hyd access via Kurnool for Seema people).

    The fourth option includes Rangareddy and not Medak. (Thankfully my Medak district is spared from this madness.)

    Medak is not even mentioend in the fourth option and Sera already started getting positive calls from Medak district people.

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  58. Green Star:

    Whats use with useless talk?

    I don't think sera has ever looked at AP map. She doesn't know where Medak is or where Nalgonda is.

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  59. sera:

    You could be worse than Srikrishna committee members when it comes to easily available knowledge.

    people of the advantages of having a UT

    Can you tell us anything you know about Union Territories in India? Ask a Goan why they clamored to become a state.

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  60. We Hyderabadi's won’t allow any Mehboobnagar (POK's N DOKE's),Nalgonda in our HYD, no bother whether it is UT or Hyderabad state..

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