Thursday, October 13, 2011

Andhra Pradesh is not a ‘marriage’

While describing the merger of Telangana and Andhra State in 1956 that resulted in formation of Andhra Pradesh, we tend to use metaphors like calling it ‘marriage of unequals’, or describing it as ‘an innocent girl married to naughty boy’.   Nehru purportedly said that this ‘marriage’ could be annulled through a ‘divorce’ at any point of time in future.   While such comparisons make poetic sense for the sake of driving a point, there is a danger when people start taking these analogies quite literally.   Right now, such comparisons are encouraging some Seemandhra politicians to seek alimony from Telangana or compensation from New Delhi for the loss of Hyderabad.  They should realize that any talks of compensation for the loss of Hyderabad as if it is ‘alimony’ will be quite disastrous for Seemandhras. 

When Gujaratis claimed Bombay because they had invested heavily into the city, no compensation was provided to Gujaratis for the loss when Bombay eventually became part of new Maharashtra.  No such compensation was given to Andhra State when Madras was retained by Tamil Nadu.  There was no discussion on ‘alimony’ because no one seriously considered them to be real marriages.  Back then, people were sensible enough to admit that such poetic references cannot be taken literally.


A journalist in DNA makes a dangerous proposition:

The leaders of Telangana will have to accept the burden of a costly alimony payment for severing the ties. The centre should facilitate the separation and structure and schedule the payment to be made in lieu of Hyderabad.

Such a talk may NOT go against the interests of Telanganas but will definitely go against the interests of Seemandhras.  That’s because, if Seemandhras expect ‘alimony’ and ‘compensation’, then Telanganas can draw a list of items that Seemandhra need to compensate us for the loss that we endured in the last 55 years in this farcical ‘marriage’.   

Our list sums up to a far bigger amount than any pitiful investment Seemandhras made into Hyderabad.  Telanganas will demand the compensation for the loss to our farmers and our economy over last three generations for the water they stole from us.  We will then demand compensation for the loss of natural resources like coal and minerals.  We will then demand compensation for the loss of opportunity to three generations of Telanganas in the sectors of government jobs, in administration, banks, education, electricity, transport, revenue, etc.    
We will then demand compensation for the loss of our lands that was sold to the bidders from Seemandhra.  We will then sue them for the massive and large scale pogrom of discrimination, suppression and marginalization of Telanganas for nearly three generations.   We will then sue them for negative characterization of Telanganas in their movies and history books and seek compensation for the neglect of our culture that resulted in loss of self-identity.   Then we will sue them for malicious delay in formation of Telangana after 9th December 2009 announcement resulting in death of nearly 600 people in Telangana.

And my dear friends, the money owed to Telangana will be so big that Seemandhras will have to toil for the next two hundred years to pay us with their hard-earned taxes.  Therefore, according to me, it is in the best interest of Seemandhras that they stay away from such foolish and irresponsible discussions before it backfires on them.

And then there are some Telanganas who seems to have a plan on how we can trick Seemandhras on the status of Hyderabad.  Some Telanganas have suggested that we should do exactly what Andhras did to us to teach them a lesson.  That we should just blindly accept all agreements right now so that we get Telangana, and once it is in the bag, we should just ditch all agreements.   

I am not supportive of such an argument.  Creation of Telangana is not about just achieving Telangana but it is also about setting a right example to ourselves so that it will be a guide to all of our future actions.  We cannot start the new state on such a gross deceit.  Just because Andhras meted out such duplicitous treatment to us does not mean we should behave like them. One of the key ideas while forming Telangana should be that we should do everything possible in our capacity not to emulate what our Andhra brothers did to us after they signed Gentlemen’s Agreement.   

We do not learn our histories to repeat the ignominies and wretchedness of the past, but to carefully avoid them for all time to come.   We do not pore over our histories, documents and agreements to carefully chronicle the betrayals of Andhras to learn to behave like them, but to learn not to accept the same treatment ever again, and more so that we don’t treat others the same when it is our turn.

We may be eager to get Telangana, we may be exhausted from our strikes and agitations and we may be in a hurry to sign on the dotted line on the agreements to get Telangana.  But that does not mean we walk into any compromise.    We should not sign on an agreement if we have no intention on abiding by it.  We should not make any promises that we have no intention of keeping it.   If it means we have to struggle a little longer to get Telangana, let it be so, but there should be no slyness, no trickery, no subterfuge, and no deception when we sit across the table discussing the modalities of creation of Telangana.  We cannot be dishonest with our Seemandhra brothers because then we are being dishonest to our future generations. 

We have a responsibility to set the right example for our future generations in Telangana.  When they look back at us in time, what will they think of us?  Will they be proud of us that we were crafty enough to sign a document knowing very well we have no intention of keeping it? Or will they be proud that we fought a little longer, took little more pain, but in the end came out as true gentlemen? 

If New Delhi says ‘take Telangana without Hyderabad’, we have to refuse Telangana right now.  We will not go into accepting Telangana with the hope that we will somehow trick Andhras out of the capital city.   Some people may call it ‘smart’ but everyone knows that it is ‘cunning’.  We cannot create Telangana on the basis of deception.   What kind of a story will that be to tell our children and grandchildren, that after fighting with Andhras for so long to get our own state, we became like them in the end?  

I, for one, will not like to be part of that story.

65 comments:

  1. >>> Can big moneybags stop Telangana ?

    Whoever is the author, he crossed exactly same lines that he/she accused AP businesses.

    AP government lost trust of 40 million people? On what basis? Those 120 MLAs could have brought down government? Who stopped them? Instead of using legal and constitutional methods available, they chose for mass frenzy.


    Take a leaf of T agitator
    where was this author when businesses and politics colluded in 2G/CWG/KG? Reading scriptures to his PaaG?

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  2. >>> Coal crunch may trip power plants including those of NTPC

    There were times when Singareni workers went on strike for months together.

    Let the power plants trip. This will give another good edge for anti-thermal crusaders and Nuclear energy champions.

    No GOI will drop Nuclear limiter liability and move Nuclear non-liability. What is wrong in giving assurances external energy provider when internal suppliers can hold country for ransom.

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  3. >>> Telangana stir hits power supply in 3 states

    But Gutta Sukhendar reddy says power generation in Delhi also hit bcoz of Singarei samme. :-)

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  4. >>> When it is clear that the politicians are from Rayalseema, why is the hatred being vented on Andhraites?

    'coz Telanganas compete with Seems people but not Andhras.
    This was evident from grudge vented by even big professors from T.

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  5. you like it or not - i.e. if ever T is formed.

    That is called denial mode. You keep saying this from past five decades, and you ignore to see the recent developments. If central govt dont want to form T then there shouldn't be any discussions at central after SKC report. By the way can you ping me once T is formed? I really enjoy that.

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  6. MIM is only 7 out of 15 and 1 of 2. What happened to remaining?

    So, there are not many people who wants separate Hyderabad. Any way it is waste of discussion till some one demonstrate a big show in HYD asking separate HYD. We Hyderabadies demonstrated many times in HYD asking Telangana.

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  7. Green Star and Lavanya are in the same boat.
    Well, I can say the same to your United Andhra band who wants to clap with one hand, hilarious.

    When it is clear that the politicians are from Rayalseema, why is the hatred being vented on Andhraites? But I don't expect answers.
    So why do you waste your time here? Dont say you are dumb.

    Besides, you have the Muslim headache. Andhra influence is actually a blessing, if you would care to recognise it.
    Oh Yeah, we saw your influence in igniting the old city riots and causing tens of innocent death just for your ugly political gains.

    Hitler came to power on such rants.
    But we dont want to come to power where you are the part of the state, I know you fight tooth and nail to stop us to come to power in a state where you are the part, history proved that many times, we just want you to leave us alone, just like how India asked British to leave India. Just like how your Seemandra asked Tamil to leave you alone.

    You spoke of Gujjus not getting any compensation from Marathis. Gujjus are ahead of Mah today. You spoke of Andhras not getting any compensation from Madras. AP is ahead of TN today.
    So, why the hell you guys always talk about compensation? Dont you have guts to stand on your own? Shame on you for talking with two tongues.

    After reading your post what I understand is you dont want to fight with us with some evidence because you know you can not win, instead you take your fight to personal level and starting your disgusting venom about Muslim and Bramins etc.

    If you want to stay united, thats fine, but you should try to convince us, I already told you, you can not clap with one hand. Indian wanted British to leave India alone, they did that. Andhra wanted Madras to leave Andhra alone, Madras did that. Many of the current countries divided from Russia wanted Russia to leave them alone and Russia allowed that. Our recent new states wanted to go alone and it happened peacefully. On the other side Pakistan left from Bangladesh with bloody nose, and you are next to them waiting to receive a punch in your face.

    I don't give a damn.....
    If you really feel that, you would have not posted here.

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  8. This whole movement should be labelled as "We want Hyderabad all for ourselves"

    Because it belongs to us, it was with us when we joined Andhra.

    You can't just sit happy and then claim something for yourself - it is called stealing.

    Or you can buy illegal farmers land, you can occupy local reserved job and you can collect tax money in Telangana and spend it in Seemandra, that is not called stealing

    Note that Owaisi does not want separation of state as much as he does not want UT status of Hyderabad.
    Can you prove that he never wanted Telangana? All he want is 1. United Andhra 2. Rayala Telangana 3. Telangana.

    He never rejected Telangana like how Seemandra leaders reject. Onlything he dont want is 'Telangana formation without Hyderabad'.

    I will be happy if you show me a recent article which shows he rejected Telangana formation.

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  9. How a anti Telangana news manufactures.

    http://missiontelangana.com/?p=2896

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  10. @Green star:
    "He never rejected Telangana like how Seemandra leaders reject."

    Is there a different meaning to rejection if it is given by MIM vs TDP? When he said first option is United AP, it is clear he is against Telangana. Why are you guys not asking their MLAs, MP to resign? why should Telangana cong and TDP MLAs MPs but not MIM MLAs MP?

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main50.asp?filename=Ne221011INCOLDBLOOD.asp

    "As far as our party’s stand is concerned, we are opposed to the bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh."

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  11. Because it belongs to us, it was with us when we joined Andhra.

    No it did not. Get those 8 districts back and then talk. DO a movement that wants those 8 districts back.

    Otherwise it is all a talk about wanting it for yourself. That is what you did even then - Andhra merger was an excuse to kick those 8 districts out.

    Now you want to kick out the Andhras - nothing but a game plan to keep all the good things for yourself.

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  12. Indian Express

    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/hyderabad-and-hinterland/858584/0

    Hyderabad and hinterland

    Asaduddin Owaisi

    Hyderabad cannot, and will never, be allowed to be made into a Union territory if the bifurcation of the state becomes politically inevitable. For centuries, Hyderabad has remained interlinked with its hinterland (Telangana) and one cannot be separated from the other. The hinterland has geographical, demographic, cultural and political contiguity to Hyderabad. Moreover, UT status for Hyderabad will adversely impact its inclusive growth.

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  13. http://www.thinkindia.net.in/2011/10/muslims-grow-poorer-in-telangana.html

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  14. Turning Point in Telangana Movement

    http://being-chandu.blogspot.com/2011/10/turning-point-in-telangana-movement.html

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  15. http://www.prokerala.com/news/articles/a251615.html

    Northeast parties back Telangana state demand

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  16. @Arvind

    From your link
    If it still has to be bifurcated, then Rayalaseema Telangana should be formed with Hyderabad as its capital.

    As I said before, for Seemandra, they reject Telangana formation. They dont have any other solutions like 'if and but'

    For MIM they they can go with any option except 'Telangana formation without Hyderabad'. Ofcourse they have preferences,...

    I gave MIM example to show they are against the separate HYD or UT. But I never said they are supporters of Telangana formation.

    One more thing, MIM never rejected Telangana reasons, they are always expressed there sympathetic to our cause in Muslim's view, they have least preference for Telangana formation because they fear BJP may became strong in Telangana. In the earlier video link which I posted Owisi said it is better for MIM and muslims if Telangana formed their only fear is BJP.

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  17. Andhra merger was an excuse to kick those 8 districts out.

    So, you need to read the Fizal Ali report one more time.

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  18. There is an inherent problem with the politicians in Telangana who cannot stay united and influence the GOI in the face of popular movement.

    While the Seema and Andhra politicians stayed unified between Dec 9 until Dec 23 and forced the Centre to change the stance irrespective of their party affiliations.

    Again these are politicians, who are considered corrupt on either side of the divide.

    If you see the decision made so far as concerned to Telangana since 1956 all the things that happenned had no popular support.

    In 1956 Andhra and Telangana were merger was based on agreements and Commissions by politicians.

    In 1969 even though Chenna Reddy was elected on separate Telangana state slogan he eventually ditched the people's choice.

    Even now politicians win elections with Telangana slogan and get votes and eventually they don't stand up to it.

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  19. Ntv and Tv5 are trying their best to say that NCP ,Trinamool Congress,Mayawati etc are against Telangana.Look what Tehelka had to say.

    http://www.tehelka.com/story_main50.asp?filename=Ws250711secrecy.asp

    Gorkha Janmukti Morcha clearly says that Telangana and Gorkhaland are to be seen differently.Still we have two channels filled with morons who are trying to fool ppl that Telangana is not an easy task to achieve.

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  20. Excellent article in Times of India about how our democracy failed in Telangana

    Highlights
    1. Whether you agree with their demand or not, there is no denying the extraordinary commitment on display across Telangana. Lakhs of government servants have been on a strike for over a month, suffering loss of pay and ruining their Dussehra. Given the Centre's prolonged consultations and deliberations, the agitators are likely to miss out on Diwali too.

    2. The political response to this popular revolt has thrown up larger questions about democracy, governance and constitutional morality. Although the movement has been by and large peaceful, ministers and legislators are in no position to set foot in Telangana districts outside Hyderabad.

    3. Despite the incorporation of Telangana in its common minimum programme, the UPA-1 made little effort to honour that promise.

    4. more importantly, chief minister Y S Rajasekhara Reddy played a fraud on the voters in Telangana . Taking undue advantage of the multi-phase polling in Andhra Pradesh, Reddy sought votes in Telangana by making suitable noises. Then, while campaigning in the rest of the state, he claimed that those people would need visas to visit Hyderabad if they did not pre-empt the division of the state by voting for Congress.

    5. A "secret" chapter of the Srikrishna report, laid bare by the Andhra Pradesh high court, was so partisan that it advised the government on how it could deal with opposition parties and "manage" the media.

    6. Jawaharlal Nehru in a speech delivered early 1956 in the then Hyderabad state, which included Kannada and Marathi-speaking districts. He was opposed to the idea of separating those districts from Telangana "because it is a flourishing province" . He however yielded to the preference expressed by the people of Kannada and Marathi-speaking districts. For, "who was I to force my views down their throats. This is not how a democracy works. Therefore, though it was my firm opinion, I gave it up."

    This kind of undemocratic approach by central government forcing our youth to loose trust on our democracy.

    Source: Times of India

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/home/sunday-toi/all-that-matters/What-Telangana-says-about-our-democracy/articleshow/10373019.cms

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  21. ఇక్కడ ఎవడో దానం నాగేందర్ తెలంగాణకు వ్యతిరేకం అని తెగ నీల్గాడు కదా, కింద ఉన్న లింకు చూడు వాడు తెలంగాణకు మద్దతుదారుడా లేక వ్యతిరేక అనేది తెలుస్తుంది
    http://epaper.sakshi.com/epaperimages/18102011/18102011-sh-hyd-16/D28258020.JPG

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  22. i read in today's paper that in a village in nizamabad district, trs activists attacked andhra settlers as the majority of trs candidate reduced in the recently held by-elections.
    kaneesam nachina vallaki vote vese hakku kooda ledha???
    can there be a better reason than thos for NOT granting statehood to telangana???

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  23. i read in today's paper that in a village in nizamabad district, trs activists attacked andhra settlers as the majority of trs candidate reduced in the recently held by-elections.
    kaneesam nachina vallaki vote vese hakku kooda ledha???
    can there be a better reason than thos for NOT granting statehood to telangana???


    Do you care to share that news with us?

    You have to start from the point where it is all started. As per you and samakyawadies we dont have a right to ask for our own state, when we asked we are all branded as anti-nationals, talibans. We dont have right to occupy govt jobs which are legally reserved for us. We dont have right to have water from the rivers which are flown thru our lands. We dont have right to use the funds which are generated from our regions. We dont have a right to demand you to stand on your word/agreement which you gave us. Dont you think we deserve our own state after all the cheating/betrayals from Seemandra against Telangana?

    Yet, you leave all those things behind(for your convince) and ask us about your right to vote?

    Why did the following news did not covered in Andhra media?
    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/attacks-on-telangana-folk-in-seemandhra-flayed/169924-60.html
    http://missiontelangana.com/?p=1929

    Do you have any answer for above news?

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  24. @green star

    https://www.andhrajyothy.com/mainnewsshow.asp?qry=2011/oct/18/main/18main12&more=2011/oct/18/main/main&date=10/18/2011

    for all the reasons which you mentioned, u are seeking a seperate state and ur agitation has reached a dercissive stage right now.
    but voting for the person of your choice is a fundamental right.dude its basic freedom.
    noone can force it.its like saying trs owns the entire telangana region and those who dont agree witht their line of thinking shdnt stay here.
    is that wat u meen???

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  25. @Green_star:
    Andhra origin people lives are in grave danger in Telangana. Your defense of the attacks by pointing other grievances does not remove Andhra families fears, it multiplies them. We will oppose TOOTH AND NAIL any attempts to bifurcate AP. BJP or any other party can never give Telangana without addressing our insecurities.

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  26. IBN is saying what JAC has told them.

    The actual reason for fighting between two groups at Tirupatamma Temple is differences in sharing a tarpaulin sheet, it would have happened even if both are from same region, because of the present situation in our state it became SA vs T.

    this news was covered in Eenadu and NT.

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  27. @Green Star
    Jawaharlal Nehru in a speech delivered early 1956 in the then Hyderabad state, which included Kannada and Marathi-speaking districts. He was opposed to the idea of separating those districts from Telangana

    Exactly. Get those districts back and talk. Looks like you people are behaving like divorce the first wife on the excuse you want to marry a new one (where you got more money as the Andhra people had more money). And now you want to divorce the second wife because now they have developed Hyderabad.

    Enough cheating.

    We Hyderabadis want a separate state for the same reason.

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  28. >>> Why did the following news did not covered in Andhra media?
    http://ibnlive.in.com/news/attacks-on-telangana-folk-in-seemandhra-flayed/169924-60.html

    Greeni,

    you live in your cocoon and want everything appear at you keyhole.

    the great link you provided does not report first hand but allegations by your great JAC.

    But all most all channels and papers in AP covered this news.

    PS: Do not come back with silly demands like show me proof.

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  29. >>> ఇక్కడ ఎవడో దానం నాగేందర్ తెలంగాణకు వ్యతిరేకం అని తెగ నీల్గాడు కదా, కింద ఉన్న లింకు చూడు వాడు తెలంగాణకు మద్దతుదారుడా లేక వ్యతిరేక అనేది తెలుస్తుంది

    జై తెలంగాణ అంటే చాలు గుడ్డలు చించుకుని పరిగెడతారు.
    రెండు సంవత్సరాలకెళ్ళి చూస్తాన్నం కాంగీలు మిమ్మల్ని ఎలా ఎదవల్ని చేస్తన్నారో

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  30. Exactly. Get those districts back and talk.
    Exactly, get your Madras state back and talk. Your capital was running in tents, then you eyed on Hyderabad, proposed to merge, now you want it for yourself, and you get no support from Hyderabadis for that.

    We Hyderabadis want a separate state for the same reason.
    Real Hyderabadi Asuruddin MIM dont want separate state, it is a wish only of a few bunch of seemandraa@ disguised of Hyderabadies.

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  31. this news was covered in Eenadu and NT.

    Your words are not enough, we need real source from you to prove if you dont want to believe what JAC says.

    When the situation is boiling, no one wants a physical fight in other region till the blood comes out just for sharing a tarpaulin sheet.

    I can make such stupid story over what 'nenusaitam' posted.

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  32. We will oppose TOOTH AND NAIL any attempts to bifurcate AP. BJP or any other party can never give Telangana without addressing our insecurities.

    I know that, even god comes down and give assurance for your people's safety, you never going to stop your anti-Telangana activities.

    We know the power of your 'Tooth and Nail' attempts when getting Madras. You like it or not, we are going to form our own state very soon. I sure you didn't expected todays situation two years ago, so dont show your false brave face. You know the Telangana state formation is very soon.

    If it is BJP, they never care for your demands, as they dont loose anything to favor a real demand and fulfill a democratic right.

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  33. http://epaper.eenadu.net/pdf/2011/10/20/20111020a_006101009.pdf

    Look at that news, these samakyavadis demanding for United State, thats okey, but the stupid part is they are using a person's pic who was divided a flourishing state(Madras) which caused India divided into many pieces.

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  34. I think the problem is basically with the people of Telangana. We are too mild. If we ask someone to leave who has come and occupied, will he leave? If we keep begging Congress to deliver on the promises they have made, will they do it?
    I strongly feel that we have to forget about Congress and TDP. They will neither resign or do anything. Few years back, when they used to issue statements in favour of Telangana, like an idiot i believed them. I hoped they will keep their word. Now when they say the same things, i cant help but laugh. It sounds too hollow. Unfortunately there are still some supporters of Congress and TDP, like it was shown in the Banswada by poll. There are people who are still gullible. But its changing painfully at a very slow pace. The support for Congress and TDP is dwindling.
    The people who are leading the agitation, should forget Congress, lead the fight independently. I feel the other mistake that gets repeated is, every time its one segment of people who are doing the agitation, without support from others. This time it was only the govt. employees, where was the support from the common man? Why show only passive support? Every segment of the society, from farm labor to poor common man should actively participate, only then will there be some impact.
    We should forget about asking the Telangana bill to be introduced in the Parliament. Our moment, our aim and energies should be directed to the over throw of AP govt, so that it runs away from Telangana and the parliament should be brought to knees. It has happened in Russia, Shah of Iran was thrown out peacefully and recently Egypt.
    Am really glad and happy the way the Congress party is behaving. I think finally the agitation is leading to the final overthrow of the AP govt. and the burial of Congress. It will happen on the dictates of Telangana terms. It might sound as wishful and fantasy, but i guess the way events are unfolding, soon it will happen.

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  35. @green star

    you dint answer my qestion yet.
    doesnt a person have a right to vote for whom he/she wants???
    now please dont ask back like "doesnt a person have right to demand a seperate state"

    you do have.

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  36. i pray for that day when kcr is exposed in broad daylight like what jaggu/gali janardhan/madhu kooda and when telangana people themself revolt against him


    in this process i dont mind even is a.p is bi/trifurcated

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  37. Telangana fanatics who have been fighting against Polavaram project have been backstabbed by KCR & Co. C.L.Rajam of SEW Infra won the project for 4000 crores. He planted a nice positive article about the project on Namaste Telangana, singing its virtues. Will KCR and TRS stand by and support this news in their paper and the tender secured by Telangana hegemonistic capitalist? Will those 'principled' Telangana supporters abandon self-respect and defend the capitalist because he is from their region? Interesting to see what excuse KCR comes up with and how his chamchas lap up his argument

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  38. according to a 2006 survey
    http://www.nird.org.in/brgf/doc/brgf_BackgroundNote.pdf

    9 out of the 10 telangana districts are classified as "backward" though not sure about the ccriteria they used.
    but another intresting is that all the 3 districts of hyderabad karnataka and 3 districts of marathwada are in this list.
    now please dont say it is "seemandhrula kutra"

    the follwing is the physical map of India taken from a german(and NOT seemandhra web site)
    http://internal.hist.cam.ac.uk/maps/german-map-of-india.jpg

    for those who complain that telangana is not fertile, you only say if it is fair to compare a plateau region to a delta???

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  39. >>రెండు సంవత్సరాలకెళ్ళి చూస్తాన్నం కాంగీలు మిమ్మల్ని ఎలా ఎదవల్ని చేస్తన్నారో

    మేము చూస్తున్నాం, ఏంత కాలం చేస్తారెంటి, ఒక్కసారి తెలంగాణా వచ్చాక మీ సామక్యవాదులు, హైదరాబాదు వాదులు కలకాల ఎదవలుగా మిగిలిపోవాల్సిందే. ఆ భయమే కదా 'తెలంగాణా' అని వినపడగానే మిమ్మలిని కల్లు తాగిన కోతుల్ల తయారు చేసేది!!

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  40. @nenusaitham

    The link you provided me doesnt work for me, I guess I need to pay for it to see the link.

    but voting for the person of your choice is a fundamental right.dude its basic freedom.
    Living our own life, enjoyed the benefits provided by constitution is also our basic right. You violated all those of our rights. You dont have a right to talk about your rights.

    You people worry about one single vote, so how much do you worry if someone else steal your job or your hard earning money?

    If you watch just only Kurukshetram, you dont understand who is right and who is wrong in Mahabarat, you need to start from the beginning.

    its like saying trs owns the entire telangana region and those who dont agree witht their line of thinking shdnt stay here.
    Nope, TRS dont own Telangana, if thats the case they should have kicked more than 80% of people in Telangana who never voted for them in past one decade.

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  41. PS: Do not come back with silly demands like show me proof.
    I wont, even I come back I know you dont provide one.

    you live in your cocoon and want everything appear at you keyhole.
    Nice comparison, can you do one more comment something like this about Seemandraties who doesn't have commonsense that 'United' feeling should come from both sides, and one can not clap with one hand?

    I am eagerly waiting for your comment.

    sincerely,
    Green Star

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  42. >>> మేము చూస్తున్నాం, ఏంత కాలం చేస్తారెంటి, ఒక్కసారి తెలంగాణా వచ్చాక మీ సామక్యవాదులు, హైదరాబాదు వాదులు కలకాల ఎదవలుగా మిగిలిపోవాల్సిందే. ఆ భయమే కదా 'తెలంగాణా' అని వినపడగానే మిమ్మలిని కల్లు తాగిన కోతుల్ల తయారు చేసేది!!



    ఇదేమరి, ఇందుకే కాంగీలు మిమ్మల్ని ఎదవలు చేస్తున్నది.
    అన్నీ తెలంగాణ వచ్చినంకనేన? అప్పటిదాకా మీరు కల్లు తాగి తొమ్గుంతర?
    మరి తెలంగాణ రాకుంటే? ఎదవలుగా మిగిలిపోతరా?

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  43. @ GreenStar

    You people worry about one single vote, so how much do you worry if someone else steal your job or your hard earning money?

    Exactly. Don't try stealing Hyderabad.

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  44. now please dont ask back like "doesnt a person have right to demand a seperate state"

    You didnt answer my other questions,

    Doesnt a person have a right to occupy a govt job which is reserved for him?
    Doesnt a person have a right to enjoy govt benefits which backed by the tax money which he paid to govt?
    Doesnt a person have a right to use water from the river which flown thru his lands?

    How does a person have a right to demand for United State when he violated all the agreements which are signed for merge?

    If you answer all these question then you dont have to ask for your 'right to vote' to me, you will understand yourself.

    Please stop your baby cry for every small small things, here we are loosing our lives because of your crooked 'United' plan, in such situations we dont care if your rights are protected or not. If you had protected all our rights so far, then we would have pay you back on the same.

    You still didn't showed me the news article which you said you will show me?

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  45. i pray for that day when kcr is exposed in broad daylight like what jaggu/gali janardhan/madhu kooda and when telangana people themself revolt against him in this process i dont mind even is a.p is bi/trifurcated

    Majority of the Telanganaites know about KCR very well, thats only the reason he never won enough votes from Telangana people.

    It is Seemandra people foolishness, who thinks all Telangan people believe KCR blindly.

    Why do you want to expose KCR alone, when there are far bigger looters like Jaga, Chandrababu, Lagadapati, Rayapati etc? Whats your special interest in KCR? when protecting your region leaders who are same kind?

    I pray for that day when seemandra people question there leaders about why they have supported Telangana demand in the last assembly elections, and why these leaders allowed the looting of Telangana by Seemandra people for past five+ decades.

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  46. Exactly. Don't try stealing Hyderabad

    We dont have to, it came with us into AP, and it will leave with us to Telangana. Or it goes on the way how real Hyderabadies wanted (like MIM)

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  47. మరి తెలంగాణ రాకుంటే? ఎదవలుగా మిగిలిపోతరా?

    కాంగీలు మమ్మలిని ఎదవలు చేసేది ఉంటె, తెలంగాణా ఇవ్వమని ఎప్పుడో చెప్పేవాళ్ళు , ఎదవలుగా మిగిలిపోతారనే భయంతోనే కదా 'సమక్యం' అనే పదానికి అర్థమే మార్చి నలుగురు కలిసి బజార్లో తిరిగి అదే ఉద్యమం అని చెప్పుకోనేవాళ్ళు. కాంగీలు తెలంగాణా ఇవ్వదని ఒక పక్క గంటాపతంగా చెపుతూ, వాళ్ళు చెప్పిన దానిని వల్లే నమ్మక , సమక్యం ఉన్ద్యమం నడిపే వాళ్ళను ఎదవలు అనక మరేమంటారు? sera పేరుతొ హైదరాబాదు మాది అనటం, Anonymous పేరుతొ మరొక వాదం చెయ్యటం , ఇలా రెండు నాల్కల ధోరణి మీ సీమంద్రులకే చెల్లింది.

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  48. Greeni,

    all these blogs/forums are shadow boxing. Sera and anon could be same. It is also possible that Sera and Greeni are same and Greeni and Sujai are same.
    What matters is comment or question, not the person who raised it.
    Nearly 2 years since fateful Dec 2009 and you T-vaadis still in same method of argument. Shoot the messenger.

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  49. Your capital was running in tents

    Vijayawada is way bigger than kurnool at that time with the population above 2 lacs it has more felicities, kurnool was chosen as per the agreement despite having no felicities, vijayawada has every felicity that Hyderbad had that time except the comforts that nizam acquired by selling R to Britishers for 60 lac rupees, We have a Cinema theater in our city built in 1921, when we are watching movies in theaters you don't even know what it is.

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  50. Or it goes on the way how real Hyderabadies wanted (like MIM)

    True.

    First stated choice: United AP

    Second Stated Choice: RayalaTelangana

    Third Stated Choice: Telangana

    Unsaid But Pursued Choice loved by MIM and Hyderabadis: Hyderabad as SAR with own assembly in the style Delhi or Pondicherry

    Another Unsaid Choice But Well Pursued by Hyderabadis: Second capital of India with SAR status with own assembly.

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  51. frankly the union of india is a joke. a nation ravaged by 6000 castes and discrimination and domination character present in all the castes cannot constitue a nation.
    what makes it worse is the language division.
    Frankly India should not exist as a country. There is no such thing as a common India........Its a myth.

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  52. Telangana fanatics who have been fighting against Polavaram project have been backstabbed by KCR & Co. C.L.Rajam of SEW Infra won the project for 4000 crores.

    Didn't we all accepted long back that KCR is a crook? So, why this is re-invented by our intelligent seemandra brothers?

    I guess our SA brothers still in delusion and believing that every Telangana supporter (including me and this blog) believes in KCR?

    Still it is so funny that, when ever KCR is in high in movement these SA brothers keep chant that his roots are from Seemandra. If anyone finds any loophole with KCR then they stamp him as Telangana.

    As usual, it is proved again that seemandra@ never stand on there words.

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  53. Greenstar
    "I pray for that day when seemandra people question there leaders about why they have supported Telangana demand in the last assembly elections, and why these leaders allowed the looting of Telangana by Seemandra people for past five+ decades."
    What were the telengana leaders doing all these 50+ years. Why are the telengana people still following those same idiots

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  54. What were the telengana leaders doing all these 50+ years. Why are the telengana people still following those same idiots

    Sera,

    So, what you are saying is our politicians didn't guard our resources well, so you took advantage of the situation and looted.

    Thats all I want to know from you.

    What do you mean by still following those same idiots? Didn't we kicked few of them? And more over our leaders wet there pants by thinking about us, and you wet there pants by looking at our leaders. :)

    By the way, we and our leaders keep questioning your loot for all five decades, that is only reason your loot of our jobs, water, funds etc etc all came out. If you just wokeup and came out from cave, god help you.

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  55. Unsaid But Pursued Choice loved by MIM and Hyderabadis: Hyderabad as SAR with own assembly in the style Delhi or Pondicherry

    Another Unsaid Choice But Well Pursued by Hyderabadis: Second capital of India with SAR status with own assembly.


    Unsaid but pursued choice loved by Seemandra@, kick the telangana out and merge back with Madras.

    Another Unsaid but well pursued by Indians, convert the India back into British colony.

    All readers here in this blog, please feel free to make your own dream world and call it real world saying 'Unsaid'.

    Anyway all I am happy that real Hyderabadi MIM members want is, what ever the final outcome, they want Hyderabad a internal part of Telangana. They are the real Hyderabadies.

    Real hyderabadies(MIM's) rejected options:
    1. HYD as UT
    2. HYD as separate state
    3. Hyd as joint capital

    Telangana@ rejected options:
    1. Anything other than Telangana with Hyderabad capital.

    Seemandra@ rejected options:
    1. Telangana formation.

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  56. @Anonymous
    It is the other way round.
    Telangana people are making Telangana leaders follow the people. But what can the people do stupid politicians always get trapped by seema+andhra tactics. Happenned in 1956, 1969 , even happenning now.

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  57. ఇవ్వాళ ఏబీయన్ లో కంచె ఐలయ్య గారితో ఇంటర్వ్యు సారాంశం: జగన్ ని అణచడానికి కాంగ్రెస్సు ప్రభుత్వం తీసుకున్న అస్త్రం 'తెలంగాణా ఉద్యమం'. కేసీయార్ ఇందులో పాత్రధారి. అందుకే ఏం చేసినా కేసీయార్ ని కేంద్రం ఉపేక్షిస్తూ వచ్చింది. మోతాదు మించినప్పుడల్లా ఢిల్లీ పిలిపించుకుని అదేశాలిస్తూ వస్తోంది. తెలంగాణా ఇప్పట్లో సాధ్యమయ్యేది కాదు. ఆ సంగతి కేంద్రానికే కాదు, కేసీయారుకీ తెలుసు. కానీ ఉద్యమం వల్ల కలిగే లాభాల దృష్ట్యా చిదంబరం దర్శకత్వం దృష్ట్యా, ప్రజలను రాని తెలంగాణా వైపు నడిపిస్తున్నాడు. అంటే ఎదురుగా గోడ ఉంది. కానీ అది రోడ్డేనని భ్రమింపజేసి ప్రజలను ఉద్యమమనే కారులో అతివేగంగా ముందుకు నడుపుతున్నాడు కేసీయార్. ఫలితంగా, తెలంగాణా ప్రజలు సర్వం కోల్పోవలసి వస్స్తుంది. ఇప్పుడున్న ఉద్యమ నాయకత్వంలో విలువలు లేవు. కలక్షన్లు మీదే ఆసక్తి. బడుగు కులాల వారినే సమిధలు చేస్తున్నారు. నిస్ప్రుహకి లోనుచేసి ఆత్మహత్యలకి ప్రోత్సహిస్తున్నారు. ఇది మంచి లక్షణం కాదు. విలువలు లేని ఉద్యమ నాయకత్వం వల్ల వచ్చేతెలంగణా వల్ల మరింత నష్టం. కాబట్టి తెలంగాణలో చచ్చే కంటే సమైక్య రాష్ట్రంలో బతకటం మేలు.

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  58. GreenStar,
    I guess our SA brothers still in delusion and believing that every Telangana supporter (including me and this blog) believes in KCR?

    Unfortunately Telengana movement doesn't have one honest politician. Where do you see the hope for Telengana? I think the light that you are seeing at the end of the tunnel is definitely of that of an oncoming train. These politicians cheated you when we are together and will cheat you when we part ways.

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  59. Unfortunately Telengana movement doesn't have one honest politician. Where do you see the hope for Telengana?

    It is unfortunate that our SA brothers believe that only politicians can achieve something, and people not. Only time will answer to your question.

    These politicians cheated you when we are together and will cheat you when we part ways.
    Wow, thats a blasting finding. So, if I understand correctly what you are saying is Violation of Gentlemen agreement, GO36, Supreme Court ruling on Mulki rules, GO610, Bhargava report, One man commission report etc are all false claim created by our politicians, and you people and your politicians are innocent like a new born baby?

    Good luck with your new day dreams.

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  60. Greeni,

    your optimism is really appreciable though it is on the borders of delusion.

    while a few slogged large number of T employees enjoyed 42 days of vacation and drawing salaries.
    Singareni and Vidyut employees proven that entire India is dependent on SCG coal while many farmers in entire state lost the crop. Interestingly all these are also getting their salaries.

    Sitting in Delhi core committee enjoyed rockets burst from Hyderabad. But they are still in wider consultations.

    Now who else will take up the movement? Of course you still have 'brothers'.

    You are right about 'time'. It will answer every question. Funny part is you separatists have eternity at your disposal to achieve Telangana. But not rest of the world. It has to move and progress.

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  61. @Greenstar:

    You should confirm who your enemy is. If it is 'seemandhra capitalists', you have to channel your criticism against them. If it is a poor person from Anantapur or Srikakulam, you have to target your anger against them. We all elect our leaders and they cheat and divide people. If you don't believe in it and instead attack people of other regions, what you are doing is playing into the hands of politicians. People in Andhra and Rayalaseema are as poor and suffering as poor people in rest of India.

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  62. Greenstar
    It is unfortunate that our SA brothers believe that only politicians can achieve something, and people not. Only time will answer to your question.
    Politicians may not be necessary for achieving Telengana, but in a democracy politicians are the ones that rule. You are not going to run a state without a CM, ministers and all such cheaters, are you? Where are the good politicians hiding now? Are they supposed to suddenly show up as soon as telengana is carved out?

    Wow, thats a blasting finding. So, if I understand correctly what you are saying is Violation of Gentlemen agreement, GO36, Supreme Court ruling on Mulki rules, GO610, Bhargava report, One man commission report etc are all false claim created by our politicians, and you people and your politicians are innocent like a new born baby?

    When I said cheating I didn't mean what you are referring to. You claim telengana was robbed of it's resources, right? What were your representatives from Telengana doing when this is happening? They definitley failed in saving you. And these are the same politicians leading the state split up. So do you think these politicians are going to suddenly turn good and start serving you instead of amassing wealth? That is the cheating I am talking about.

    One question, where is the good politician supposed to govern Telengana hiding?

    Srini.

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  63. What were your representatives from Telengana doing when this is happening?
    Thats really a shameless question, if we didnt caught you, then how did such things came out? Our politicians can not do anything in this Seemandra majority/dominated state. We will be having lot better life without you in our state. For example, people from Krishna district wont be stealing our jobs in Medak because both places belongs to different places. Even though if some one managed to do that, there will be no SA politicians to save him in Medak later if some one finds this theft. Another example, our tax money will be spent here in Telangana only, which is not happening now.

    but in a democracy politicians are the ones that rule. You are not going to run a state without a CM, ministers and all such cheaters, are you?
    That is where we think different from you. Carving a state is federal matter, Once central put the bill in parliament no one cares(rest of the India) if Andhra Pradesh CM or Telangana politicians accepts it or not, all they want to know is whether Telangana people want it or not. Our leaders are not that dumb to talk against the Telangana in such situations.

    Any way your seemandra people clearly know that once central put bill in Parliament it is going to pass.

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  64. telangana student jac pidamarthi ravi-1975 born
    samaikyandhra student jac chairman adhari kishore-1978 born
    source facebook
    not sure abour ravi but kishore is married 2 yrs ago
    from same soure
    this proves that both the agitations are for, by and of the uncles
    jai uncle
    jai jai uncle

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  65. Dude GreenStar,
    You should definitely take off the goggles that you are wearing. You are not able to read properly. You are not answering my questions. There was a guy in our college; when writing exams if he faces a question for which he doesn't the answer, he just used to write what ever he knew though it is totally unrelated to the question. You are exactly like that.
    People like you can only carry the banners. I asking, who is the intellectuals and honest politician that is hiding now and going to suddenly come out and start governing Telengana once it is carved out?
    Srini.

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