Sunday, January 03, 2010

Telangana XXX: How Telangana Movement Spread

Most Andhras conveniently assume that Telangana Movement is a ‘purely political’ movement [Read more about “politically motivated” here]. This way they can ignore the protests, bandhs or strikes as an aberration that is sponsored by political parties, but not the norm. This way they can dismiss the entire movement as a mere blip on the radar, something that will fade away with time. And that’s why they are trying to buy time and stall the separation. They think that it is just a matter of time before this whole movement will be blown away with the next wind of political change. After that we can all live together again, like a happy family.

The problem with this convenient and idyllic picture is that it is an illusion.

Telanganas do not think it is a happy family. They believe they need to find their own destiny, however harsh it is going to be, on their own. This they believe, not because their politicians have fed lies to them, not because they are suddenly caught in a bout of feverish regionalism, but because they have either witnessed the discrimination, experienced it, or they have understood this prolonged discrimination meted out to their people. In reality Telanganas are suspicious of their own politicians and that’s why they are taking the lead and forcing their politicians to follow through their promises.

Andhras do not understand this at all. They do not realize that this is a people’s movement. They do not understand what Telanganas believe or feel. They do not even think Telanganas have been discriminated. They ask themselves if they have ever personally discriminated a Telangana person and comfortably conclude that they have not [More about this here]. And therefore they assume that this whole discrimination stuff is a myth.

Andhras and Telanganas are on two different planes on this issue. Any talks with Andhras on separation of Telangana are meaningless. It is like talks with Pakistan on terrorism. India believes Pakistan fosters terrorism while Pakistan denies it completely. If you have not even agreed on the premise what’s the point of having talks? While Telanganas cite copious amount of discrimination, Andhras deny discrimination exists.

Andhras don’t understand Telanganas. That’s because they have never tried to understand them. Their love affair with Telangana was confined to opportunity – in terms of new jobs, real estate in Hyderabad, water that flows through Telangana, etc.

Andhras don’t know Telanganas

Yes, Andhras have incorporated Telangana into their state, but they just don’t know what this region is all about. They don’t know Telangana’s history or its culture or its socio-economic conditions. They conveniently forgot to mention its history and culture in their text books as if it was not even necessary.

Now, when they want a united state they keep shouting ‘Samaikya Andhra’. They don’t even realize that most Telanganas do not even identify with the word ‘Andhra’. For Telanganas, the common element for all the people in the state is the language Telugu, not the word ‘Andhra’ though it appears in the name of the state. Some of us protested during the formation of the state when the word ‘Telangana’ was dropped.

While Telanganas continue to interact with Andhras because many of them come to Telangana, Andhras living in Andhra do not get that chance since the migration from Telangana to Andhra is minimal. Moreover, many Telanganas who migrate to Andhra region change their accent right away to embrace Andhra Telugu to fit in, so that they don’t lose out and don’t get taunted all the time. Even some Telanganas in Telangana who have Andhra superiors at work tend to change their dialect to lose Telangana accent. Telanganas are made to feel ashamed of their dialect. For most people in the state, Telangana Telugu represents lower class, the coolies, the workers, the uncouth, and the rustic. This is also the reason why many Telanganas do not even talk about their support for the Telangana movement- because they are either shy or afraid to admit it.

What are Telanganas?

What kind of people are Telanganas? Are they uncouth and uncivilized, speaking a rustic version of Telugu? Are they lazy - shirkers of work? Are they less hardworking and less enterprising? Do they allow people to rule them – first the Nizam and then the majorities of Andhra Rayalaseema?

Telangana Ballads

For nearly two hundred years, Telangana was ruled by an oppressive regime of Nizam. The whole kingdom was in existence only to serve one purpose – to pay taxes and collect taxes. There was nothing much for Telanganas to look forward to. It was an elaborate zamindari system. Nehru called Hyderabad State an ‘ancient feudal relic’.

There were not many schools. If there were some, they taught Urdu only to serve the administration of Nizam. The only jobs were government jobs. Tax collectors, policemen, administrators, jury, everyone was appointed by the government. Telugu was not encouraged or taught. For a long time, there was nothing to write or read in Telugu.

And yet, there was a rebellious streak of Telanganas that translated into communist movement rebelling Nizam, before India became independent. Even women took an equal role in this rebellion against Nizam. How did the people talk to each other, how did they spread their message? How did they rally the people to the cause?

African-American Culture

Similarities are found in the movement of Blacks in Americas. Their frustrations, their rebellious streak, their message was passed on by their songs and their music. Their songs carried a message- political and social. Eventually, they found their self-respect, their freedoms, and their voice through their music.

In India, Telangana has long history of ballads that carried political and social messages to all strata of the society. Even today, young boys and girls in our villages create a tune on the spur and most songs are about our lives, our struggles, our economic conditions.

Proud Telangana

I am a proud Telangana. I hail from Warangal, Telangana. As a young boy, I knew some of popular Telangana songs and I used sing some of them. Unfortunately, some of them were eventually banned because they were taken up by Naxals in our region. Only in 1990s, the ban was lifted and many songs came back to us. They were sold as cassettes, nowadays on CDs, and circulated on Youtube.

One of the famous singers of that time was called Gaddar. When Gaddar came out of hiding in 1990, more than 200,000 people showed up in Hyderabad to see him. Telanganas identify with him instantly while he is virtually unknown outside this region. The way he used dress himself was taken up by most Telangana singers of the present generation.

His version of the song ‘Bandenaka Bandi Katti’ (One cart after another) moves almost every Telangana or Telugu person who has heard it. There is a rebellious streak in that song. It is about fighting for one’s place against a superior force or authority. It is the story of a common Telangana person for many centuries now. You can listen to it here:

Gaddar has moved many Telanganas with his songs. He was one of the active participants of Telangana Movement of 1969. He went from town to town and village to village to pass the message using his songs. Though he is a communist, and though communists were anti-separation for a long time, Gaddar stood for separate Telangana and his message is not easily lost on Telanganas. Even today, he comments on current movement and supports it.

Telangana songs

In the last twenty years, many Telangana songs that endorse separate Telangana have proliferated in Telangana. Villages and towns of Telangana have heard these songs. The songs are played in buses, in autos, at tea stalls. Teachers, school going children, college professors, rickshaw pullers, bankers, administrators, and all kinds of people have listened to these songs many a times. The modern day young boys and girls dance to these songs and they are not ashamed of them. They take pride in singing and dancing to them.

While Andhras conveniently ignored and forgotten Telanganas, keeping themselves happy only with Hyderabad city of Telangana, the Telanganas were on a revival mode. They have created songs, pamphlets, booklets, and created many awareness programs, street-side dramas, etc, to educate its masses. These songs clearly told them the discrimination that was meted out to them by Andhras.

Listen to some of them here: Amma Telangana, Jai Telangana, Yelamanda.

Some of you Andhras may get offended by the video and message, but please do listen: Pro-Telangana 1, Pro-Telangana 2.

Organizations

In the last twenty years, many organizations have sprung up in Telangana to bring in a separate state. Right now, there are more than 15 student bodies that are represented in Telangana Students Joint Action Committee (TS-JAC). Telangana Students Front (TSF) was formed in Kakatiya University, Telangana Liberation Students Organisation (TLSO) in 1991, and Telangana Information Trust in 1986. Political outfits include Telangana Jana Sabha and Telangana Mahasabha. Other organizations include Telangana Intellectuals Forum (TIF) Telangana Development Forum (TDF), Telangana IT Forum (TITF), and Telangana Vidyarthi Vedika (TVV).

Books

Hundreds of books, copious amount of literature have been released in the last twenty years. The books detail the discrimination that was meted out to Telangana in jobs, in power, in irrigation and many other fronts like budget allocations. Professor Jaishankar and many other scholars, lawyers, poets and artists have been powering the intellectual movement in Telangana.

Pamphlets and Jokes

The message was carried by many pamphlets and jokes that were circulating throughout Telangana. Picture is worth a thousand words, they say.

There are many jokes which convey the picture more succinctly, like these.

People’s Movement

Telangana Movement is a real people’s movement, created by the people, for the people, and of the people of Telangana. Its politicians are just one aspect of the whole movement. They are not even in the lead and might have contributed little to the whole movement. The movement is led by the people of Telangana. People outside Telangana have to confront this reality and accept it.

Some of you Andhras who fail to understand Telangana quickly think it is KCR that created this agitation. The actual message is carried by Telanganas through their ballads, pamphlets, stories, booklets, and street-side plays.

Please give credit to the people of Telangana for this movement, not KCR or TRS. And also do acknowledge that Telangana Movement is a people’s movement. Not acknowledging will not allow us to talk on the same table, because you are in a denial mode.

104 comments:

  1. na manasulo mata cheppavanna.
    Andhra ppl r using samaikyandhra only bcoz of hyderabad.
    if u keep hyd aside no one would give a damn abt it.

    its true that andhra ppl who settled in telangana never embraced the telangana culture instead they mocked our culture,language,traditions.
    its high time for centre to allow us to do self rule.
    Jai Telangana Jai Jai Telangana!!!

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  2. మంచిగున్నది బిడ్డా!
    just wanted to include తెలంగాణ జన సభ movement in the name of "Warangal Declaration", in which బెల్లి లలిత was killed!

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  3. U take telangana

    we will share Hyderabad is that ok for you

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  4. Another Theory - Just a thought

    Why separation now?? Why did center agree now? Just because of a hunger strike?

    I support the separation as well. I'm not a conspiracy buff but couldn't help ask the above questions and look at the issue in other angles.

    ONGC struck gold in KG basin. And RIL is into this big time now. Apparently the state floated Andhra Pradesh Gas Infrastructure Corporation (APGIC) similar to Gujarat State Petroleum Corporation (GSPC) this last August 2009. Is it possible big companies (like Reliance and other business/political entities) have some influence in fueling the fire so they can have greater influence dealing with smaller states for their gains? A united Andhra Pradesh is important in this case.

    No reasonable person with some basic sense will deny the facts regarding injustice to Telangana. We can argue forever about the numbers and issues over 60 yrs or more like any family issue. We will always disagree on injustice part. Development of Telangana and its people may not happen for a long time. There may be some mental peace after the "divorce" if separation happens i.e.

    But if the above theory holds any water then Andhra, Telangana and Rayalaseema will lose big time. All this drama and bickering will be self defeating. I'm still for separate state of Telangana. But I think the Leaders (political and Business) of this region should stand united to safeguard the interests and development of the region. Let me know what your thoughts are.

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  5. Sujai,

    Telangana movement IS people's movement. But I am not sure whether you can compare hyderabad to a underclothing.

    If I am not wrong, substantial amount of taxes come from Hyderabad. And no city in the entire state has even 1/4th infrastructure hyderabad has.IN addition hyderabad perhaps, has a list of nationally acclaimed universities, including upcoming IIT.BTW, Your pamplet completely ignores that there are several good Univ's like ISB, IIT Medak, IIIT, JNTU in Hyderabad


    So hyderabad has become a HUGE bone of contention. It is pretty hasty to conclude Hyderabad as "Gochi Gudda". In fact it is nearer to "Pattu Panche".

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  6. The Gadar song is a classic. It is about the oppression of Telanganas under Nizam rule. I used to hum that song when I was a kid though I did not know what that actually meant. All the other songs you mentioned are cheaptype third rate folk songs written for the express purpose of brainwashing and charging T public by denigrating and threatening people of rest of AP. It is very likely, these are the works of some politicians.

    Claim YOUR Telangana.
    Claim YOUR Hyderabad.

    But don't vilify the people of SeemaAndhra. People who moved here, will be staying here no matter what. Why cant you guys say it like it is? Say separation is for more concentrated utilization and control of resources. Say that separation means you don't have to compete with rest of AP for education opportunities a few Govt jobs.
    It is funny when the T politicians say that only Big fat politicians with vested interests will be targeted and common man will be alright in new state. Who is to decide who is vested interest and who is 'common man'? It is ironic in that you are antagonizing the people with real influence and that will not help your cause. Unconditional assurances should be given to all.

    Finally, its outrageous that you make villains of the people of rest of AP especially when all the statistics show that it is the Telangana region that made the most progress of all the 3 regions after independence (As a percentage of where each region stood during independence).

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  7. Telangana is indeed a true people's movement. Every person from ages 10 to 80 in Telangana has the Telangana-State in their minds and hearts.

    Telangana people are very unique in how they make history and go about their everyday lives. They are the world's most easy-going people. They are warm and welcoming, assimilate and accept different opinions and live and let live. Their thresholds of patience are really high. But, once the threshold reaches, they will take their leaders to task.

    If the govt. dares to propose elections again, the people WILL speak their true minds in no un-certain words on Telangana.

    Ignoring such a huge people's movement is foolish.

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  8. Manohar, Lagadapati of Andhra commentors:

    its outrageous that you make villains of the people of rest of AP

    Your claim is hilarious!

    Your movies have made the people of Telangana villians for so many decades in the 20,000 odd movies produced.

    And you can't tolerate a few sentences in the last one month calling you villians?

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  9. చాలా బాగా రాస్తున్నారు. మన కల ఫలించే రోజు ఎంతో దూరంలో లేదు.

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  10. >>Your movies have made the people of Telangana villians for so many decades in the 20,000 odd movies produced.

    This is absolute nonsense by telangana guys.Rayalseema guys are shown as villians when compared to T-guys. Hyderabad local language is used in telugu movies for comedy tracks and not for villiany things boss.Wake up!!!Even they might have used its very less.

    I don't understand this.East/West godavari slangs were used to be comedy tracks in my childhood.But no one commented that.

    For separatisim u show even trivial things ?? What self repsect ur talking about ?U want to ruled by ur own guys ?than get out of India guys..We had only one PM from south India in 62 yrs.Are we going to ask for a new country ??

    All 9 distrticts of telangna have same culture,slang etc.none of u r identites are lost. I agree there was less development in Telagana but this happens every where in India.Not only in AP.

    When entire world is avoiding and stopping wars just by helding talks why can't we do that ? People have more awarness than past.Why can't we sit and talk.Why can't we form a JAC and fight with same force as we are doing now for all parts development. Why are we disturbing people life ?

    Shame on all those educated idiots who are supporting these bandhs ,dharanas rail roko,rasta roko,I don't care who it is-whether seema,andhra or telangana.feel ashamed of ur deeds.

    ~Indian

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  11. Indian:

    What self repsect ur talking about ?U want to ruled by ur own guys ?than get out of India guys..

    Self-rule within the confines of Indian Constitution is a legitimate demand. It is even discussed in Indian Constitution. Creation of states is one of the ways to allow self-rule. There is no need to get out of India to attain that.

    Andhra State had asked for a separate state from Madras State to attain that self-rule status. They didn’t have to go out of India to do that.

    We had only one PM from south India in 62 yrs.Are we going to ask for a new country ??

    Having a PM from South does not necessarily mean self-rule. Having proper representation, having enough power to wield allocation of funds, having enough opportunities in the developing country, etc, are more important than having a PM from South.

    I agree there was less development in Telagana but this happens every where in India.Not only in AP.

    Just because there is less development does not mean we have to accept it. We can fight for better development. That’s what we are doing here.

    When entire world is avoiding and stopping wars just by helding talks why can't we do that ?

    None of the talks of the past have yielded positive results. All agreements were eventually flouted or revoked. There is no trust anymore. Therefore, the only way out is a separate state. Andhras should take the blame for pushing this to such a situation.

    Shame on all those educated idiots who are supporting these bandhs ,dharanas rail roko,rasta roko,I don't care who it is-whether seema,andhra or telangana.feel ashamed of ur deeds.

    Shame on Indians who did the same during British Rule.

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  12. Manohar:

    But don't vilify the people of SeemaAndhra.

    Vilifying Seema-Andhra people is unfortunate and not desirable. Even I don’t like that facet of Telangana Movement. But you have to understand this.

    The only reason why Telangana people are not getting separate Telangana is because of Seema-Andhra people and politicians. They are the only force Telangana has to fight to get itself a state. And therefore, vilification of the opponents of their cause is a natural outcome, though undesirable.

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  13. Anonymous:

    So hyderabad has become a HUGE bone of contention. It is pretty hasty to conclude Hyderabad as "Gochi Gudda". In fact it is nearer to "Pattu Panche".

    It’s how you see it. “Gochi Gudda” here is the only thing that is saving the dignity of this man. It is the only piece on his body that is still holding onto his self-respect. That’s metaphorical to drive a point. If you like to see it differently, you can go ahead and create a cartoon where “Gochi Gudda” is replaced by a “pattu panche”.

    I listed this cartoon only to make a case how Telangana Movement spread. There are hundreds of cartoons like that. I just picked up one.

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  14. Anonymous:

    we will share Hyderabad is that ok for you

    I have addressed this already in other posts on this blog.

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  15. I AGREE WITH KRISHNA,THE K.G BASIN COULD BE A MAJOR MOTIVATOR IN POLITICAL TERMS.BIG INDUSTRIAL HOUSES ARE DEFINITELY HAVING A SAY IN THIS.MONEY IS BEING SPENT,THATS FOR SURE.WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM? SUJAI,YOUR ASPIRATIONS AND IDEALS ARE GOOD.YOUR GOALS ARE SECULAR,MY FRIEND.BUT,PLEASE DO NOT TRUST A POLITICAN,EVER.FOR ALL WE KNOW THEY MIGHT BE USING IDEALISTS LIKE YOU,TO MEET THEIR OWN AGENDAS.THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN HAPPENNING. WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL,WHAT DO WE PROPOSE TO DO NEXT?ARE YOU PEOPLE INTERESTED IN FUTURE POLITICS OF TELANGANA?OR IS THIS A FLASH IN THE PAN? PLEASE,DO NOT THINK FOR A SECOND THAT WE ARE CRITICISING YOU.WE ARE ONLY UNSURE IF THIS FOR KEEPS OR ARE YOU PIED PIPER?

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  16. SOMEONE SAID WE HAD ONLY ONE P.M.SORRY WE HAD TWO P.V AND DEVE GOWDA. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE ALMATTI DAM WAS BUILT ACROSS KRISHNA DURING HIS TIME.MORE THAN HALF OF THE INDIAN CRICKET TEAM,SUDDENLY HAD PLAYERS FROM ALL OVER KARNATAKA.TALK OF REGIONALISM!

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  17. ARE THEY GOING TO CATCH US SLEEPING,JUST LIKE YHE BRITISH? THEY ARE DEFINITELY GOING TO ASK WHAT WE PROPOSE TO DO NEXT. ARE WE PREPARED?EVEN WE WERE NOT.WE GOT OUR INDEPENDENCE,BUT WERE NOT REPUBLIC UNTIL 1950.

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  18. While formation of Andhra Pradesh out of Madras State, Andhra people gave up Madras. Do you think, it is wise to ask them to give us back Madras, after AP formation.

    While formation of Andhra Pradesh, capital city was shifted to Hyderabad from Kurnool. Do you think, its possible to create a Hyd-like city out of Kurnool now?? Kurnool missed and sacrificed the golden opportunity.

    While formation of Andhra Pradesh, Telangana leaders agreed to make Hyderabad as the capital city of Integrated State of Andhra Pradesh, that means everything related to Hyderabad is related to every person living in the state of Andhra Pradesh. Once telangana leaders agreed for Hyderabad as capital city of Andhra Pradesh, it no more belongs to telangana only. Do you think, it is fair to give the entire integrated state capital, Hyderabad, just to one particular region of Telangana??

    Every new state creation involves sacrifice from the end of the separatists. Gujarat sacrificed Mumbai to get a new state. Andhra Pradesh sacrificed Madras to get a new state. For Telangana state, are you willing to sacrifice on Hyderabad??

    Folks, just relax, no matter what you do, you cannot rewrite past history and past mistakes. Past is past, and think about the future. Sometimes past stinks, even Indian history has lot of wounded past in the hands of British. That doesn't mean every Indian and generations of Indians keep crying everyday recollecting British rule. The only way Telangana state can be formed is by compromising on Hyderabad. Otherwise, find new innovative ways, establishing a autonomous development authority for Telangana.

    Sorry guys, you shouldn't have joined with Andhras in the first place at the time of formation of AP. Why did you join with Andhras?? Our founding fathers at that time took a decison, now we can't do anything. Mahatma Gandhi agreed to partition of India, even when majority of Indians didn't like it, what can we do now, rewrite history and ask Pakisthan and Bangladesh to reunite with India??

    If you are so desperate to get Telangana at any cost, one possible solution: Telangana state with Warangala as capital, Hyderabad becomes second capital of India.

    Chill out!!

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  19. Lavanya,

    Why are you shouting?

    PLEASE DO NOT TRUST A POLITICAN,EVER
    So, stop trusting Lagadapati, Jagan, CBN, etc. We don't trust them. Neither should you.


    Best,
    Idler.

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  20. Bifurcation of Andhra Pradesh is complex:
    Normally, region far away from captial city of the state, demand separate state.
    In our case, it is reverse logic, that a region like Telangana with capital city centrally located in the heart of the telangana region is demanding separation.

    If Andhra Pradesh with such a complex scenario for bifurcation can be divided, then almost all the southern indian states can be further divided immediately applying the same logic.

    If Telangana state should be formed then

    1)Maharastra division: Vidarbha region, which is 900 kms away from capital city Mumbai, should be immediately formed with Nagpur as capital. And its very easy to form, no capity city litigation.

    2)Tamilnadu division: Chennai capital is located in the northern most tip of Tamilnadu.
    There is a every valid reason to split tamilnadu for administrative and economic reasons of southern region. So, south tamilnadu should be created as a new state with Madurai as the capital. Easy separation, just a click, no issues with capital city. Yeah, Tamil Unity is a issue here. But why care about Tamil unity, when the big picture Indian unity is under threat??

    3)Karnataka division: Current capital, Bangalore, is located in the deep southern region of
    Karnataka. For same above reasons, north karnataka should be made into a separate state with Gulbarga as the capital city. Easy separation like a cake walk.

    4)Kerala division: Current capital Trivandrum is located in the southern most tip of Kerala. For same above valid reasons, north kerala should be made into a separate state with Calicut as the capital city. Cool separation.

    So, if we keep dividing India further on these self-respect, self-rule, administration,
    economic reasons, where it will end. Formation of Telangana State will trigger the degradation
    of Indian values like Unity in Diversity, and also, Indian internal and external security.

    India internal security will be weakened due to naxal strengthening. Indian external security will be at risk, because our dangerous volatile neighbors like Pakisthan, Bangladesh, and China, would anytime prefer a internally fragmented weak Indian states.

    Further division of India, is it good or bad from Indian National Security point of view??

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  21. Teluguna,

    Gujrat didn't get Mumbai coz Mumbai is part of Maharashtra.

    Same with Hyderabad. It was, is and will be part of Telangana.

    Best,
    Idler.

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  22. Idler:

    Wasn't Mumbai the capital city of the Unified-Maharastra-Gujarat state before separation?? I am curious and I might be wrong.

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  23. Vishwa,


    Indian values like Unity in Diversity


    Formation of Telangana will strengthen Indian value of Unity in Diversity. It adds one more state to the diverse pool.

    Support Indian value! Say Jai Telangana! Say Jai Andhra!

    Regarding the rest of your comment, it is irrelevant to us. You can ask the respective regions what they want to do. But, if they divide, it will definitely be more diverse.

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  24. Mumbai is geographically within Maharashtra.

    Mumbai was capital of Maha-Guj.

    Maha-Guj split.

    After split, Mumbai is capital of Maharashtra coz it is geographically within Maharashtra.

    Same with Hyderabad and Telangana. Hyderbad is WITHIN Telangana.

    Telangana = Maharashtra
    Hyderabad = Mumbai
    Andhra = Gujarat

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  25. Idler:

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    Indian values like Unity in Diversity

    Formation of Telangana will strengthen Indian value of Unity in Diversity. It adds one more state to the diverse pool.
    ////

    Do you think, more smaller states means more diversity?? Is it all about the number??

    Don't you think that formation of a huge mega city (most likely capital city), by ignoring the development of the other regions in a State is the trigger for the further division of states ??

    If so, then in future, north telangana might demand a separate state because all the development is focussed in and around Hyderabad, in south telangana. Do you agree for further division of Telangana, because it might add one more state and enhance diversity??

    Please think with a bigger perspective, because you are Indian first and don't confine yourselvs to just Telangana. Don't take it otherwise.

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  26. People without knowing history or knowing very little history shout at andhrites which became a fashion today....

    In 1956 when AP formed in 103 members it was 20-30 guys who voted out the merger not all.Do u think 20 is majority ?

    When u compare everything with andhrites saying when they want self rule they came out of madras provincy..when they want state they did hunger strike..why don't u follow andhrites leaving hyderabad?

    Even though geographically Madras was in Andhra they left for new telugu state.Do it sujai why don't u put it ? Why r u talking about "Gochi gudda".Ur whole cry is for Hyderabad and for Telangana.

    >>Having proper representation, having enough power to wield allocation of funds

    U had 119 MLA's Don't u think they can't even get funds?Go to AP online site and go thru the Human resources report u will know ur MLA's got funds than what they did with these funds?
    Except crying on Andhra minsiters u guys never did anything for development. U r fight is never for development only for state.

    Why GO's are not passed during 1971-1982.Why u depend on NTR to pass 610 GO.What ur Telangana PM Mr.Narsimha Rao did? Eventhough ur educated u still go with the nonsense written by Maoists and shout at people.One of ur post say "Andhrites eyed at hyderabad and planned for visalandhra".

    That shows ur stupidity!!!Don't change history as u like.If I say Telanganites don't have Lippi will u agree? And I can say that because when u don't called Telugutalli as ur's than there is no point u guys talking Telugu.

    I said awarness has increased.Telangana in 1969 and 2009 is far more developed.even u guys are well educated why can't we have talks and put a time limit for all pending works!! u won't accept because its ur ego and identity crisis which closed ur eyes and brain.

    "Chaduvukuna vadi kantey chakali vadu nayam" aani.Maa watchmam Telangana vadu.yedi vastey yem sir maa jeevitalu entaney untayee anadu.Vadu better nee kantey!!

    I am sorry lavanyaprasad I do agree there were 2 PM.Typo mistake.

    ~Indian

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  27. Indian,

    You are regurgitating the same nonsense others have.

    Outside observers from other states are saying this about Andhra:

    The people of Telangana have no desire to be with you. Why do you shamelessly throw yourself at them? Have you no self-respect?

    And I agree, the chaakalivadu is better than you.

    Best,
    Idler.

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  28. Idler:

    ///
    Mumbai is geographically within Maharashtra.

    Mumbai was capital of Maha-Guj.

    Maha-Guj split.

    After split, Mumbai is capital of Maharashtra coz it is geographically within Maharashtra.

    Same with Hyderabad and Telangana. Hyderbad is WITHIN Telangana.

    Telangana = Maharashtra
    Hyderabad = Mumbai
    Andhra = Gujarat//

    Is there any state, which was formed by taking with it the capital of the pre-separation-integrated state?? Give me one example in India. Just take the recent cases of Jharkand, Chattigarh and Uttarakand formation.

    I mentioned, Madras city in the context that we cannot rewrite the past history. And also Andhra Pradesh formation involved lot of compromises like giving up Madras, shifting from Kurnool, in order to have a new capital city Hyderabad for the integrated state.

    Coming to ,Mumbai case, this is not a good example. Because Mumbai case is related to formation of states, Gujrat, Maharastra, based on linguistic grounds. Mumbai was the capital of integrated bombay state. South bombay state dominated by maratis and north bombay dominated by gujratis. So, on that basis, the only way Gujrat can be formed is by giving up Mumbai. There is no other way.

    But Telangana state formation is different from linguistic states formation. We are talking about separation from a state already formed on linguistic grounds. Telangana state formation, can only be compared to formation of states like Jharkand, Uttarakand, Chattisgardh. All these new states are formed without taking away the existing capital cities of the integrated states with them.

    So, thatswhy Telangana formation is complex and very unique, and lot of scientific studies should be done before separation.

    Some might say the other way:
    Telangana = Gujarat
    Hyderabad = Mumbai
    Andhra = Maharastra

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  29. Indian values like Unity in Diversity

    Vishwa,

    You need have some rudimentary arithmetic abilities before engaging in online debates.

    Unity in Diversity is a score. The more diverse the better. Its always about MORE, which means larger number. MORE languages means more diverse. MORE cultures means more diverse. MORE food habits means more diverse. MORE clothing styles means more diverse. MORE states means more diverse.

    Creating Telangana will add more more state. MORE diverse.

    See, arithmetic is not too difficult. I wish you paid more attention in school.

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  30. Some might say the other way:

    Those who say that -- need the ability to read maps.

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  31. Idler:

    **Outside observers from other states are saying this about Andhra:

    The people of Telangana have no desire to be with you. Why do you shamelessly throw yourself at them? Have you no self-respect?
    **

    You have to understand one thing here, Telanganites want to get out of the Integrated Andhra Pradesh. So Telanganites have to take the call and if they do the compromise of giving up on Hyderabad, u got it. I think, no one will stop telangana state without hyderabad.

    No telangana without Hyd means -- This entire separatist movement will die down. So the fight is all about Hyderabad, no matter, how many number of languages or ballads or songs or stories are used for communication.

    Its all about the big thing - "Gochi gudda" or "Pattu Vastram" --- Its HYDERABAD

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  32. Creating Telangana will add more more state. MORE diverse.

    creating seperate Hyderabad State along with Telangana state will add even more more more state. More diverse.

    See, arithmetic is not too difficult for you. I hope as you paid more attention in school, you would get it.

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  33. Indian:

    In 1956 when AP formed in 103 members it was 20-30 guys who voted out the merger not all.Do u think 20 is majority ?

    What are you talking about? Can you elaborate?

    When u compare everything with andhrites saying when they want self rule they came out of madras provincy..when they want state they did hunger strike..why don't u follow andhrites leaving hyderabad?

    When we want state, we do hunger strike (like KCR, OU students, etc).

    Even though geographically Madras was in Andhra they left for new telugu state.

    Hmm… I thought you were complaining that people don’t know history. Please check the above assertion.

    U had 119 MLA's Don't u think they can't even get funds?

    We couldn’t even get our own state even after P Chidambaram asked for passing resolution in the Assembly. Minority always loses if the majority gets united on a common cause. And for all these fifty three years, we believe, Andhra-Rayalaseema MLAs were united on a common cause.

    Except crying on Andhra minsiters u guys never did anything for development. U r fight is never for development only for state.

    Fine then. If the fight is only for the state, then we would like to have the state. Let’s not even talk about development. Telangana makes a case even without including development in the topic of discussion.

    Andhras didn’t have any ‘development’ reasons and yet they attained a statehood in 1953 only by citing ‘apprehensions’.

    Why GO's are not passed during 1971-1982.

    That’s because the majority Andhra politicians started Jai Andhra movement and then forced Indira Gandhi to revoke a Supreme Court ruling using an Act of Parliament.

    "Andhrites eyed at hyderabad and planned for visalandhra".

    Yes. That’s because the fight for Vishalandhra became a mainstream fight only after Kurnool was made the capital. The administration was in tents and didn’t even have housing. That’s when Hyderabad looked attractive.

    even u guys are well educated why can't we have talks and put a time limit for all pending works!!

    GO 610 was supposed to have been enforced by 1986 and in spite of many attempts to table the resolution in Assembly, it was voted out. It is still unimplemented. That’s only one example of how even well-educated guys can lose out in an Assembly if the majority votes on partisan basis.

    Maa watchmam Telangana vadu.yedi vastey yem sir maa jeevitalu entaney untayee anadu.Vadu better nee kantey!!

    Lot of people thought they were happier with British. It is my duty to educate that watchman as to why it is important to fight for a separate Telangana. He is just listening to those who want to keep him enslaved. He should listen to those who want to see him emancipated.

    Keeping people enslaved is always in the best interest of some people.

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  34. Idler:

    /////Vishwa,

    You need have some rudimentary arithmetic abilities before engaging in online debates.

    Unity in Diversity is a score. The more diverse the better. Its always about MORE, which means larger number. MORE languages means more diverse. MORE cultures means more diverse. MORE food habits means more diverse. MORE clothing styles means more diverse. MORE states means more diverse.////

    Usage of sophisticated english words is not an acid test for your intellect. So give some respect to others while using your sarcasm.

    Can the above logic -- more things mean more diverse -- can be applied to your personal life??

    More wives mean more diversity in your family life. So, more unity in diversity in your family life. So, be careful before you generalize the logic and consider only "quantity". Most of the times, quality wins over quantity.

    Take it easy -- it was only for debate.

    Don't underestimate others and be judgemental. Have some open mind!

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  35. I agree with below Anonymous completely. specially ">>>>>Anonymous said...U had 119 MLA's Don't u think they can't even get funds? u will know ur MLA's got funds than what they did with these funds? Except crying on Andhra minsiters u guys never did anything for development. U r fight is never for development only for state".
    See the world and vote for developments. Once you develop, you can keep all your culture, etc all by forms of proper ways (like separate departmetns etcs and make them work).

    I hail from north costal AP, just near to orissa, we do all have the differnt culture, langauge etc.. its there in village, but when you come to town, you can't use it.
    if you use your local english slang in USA or any metro cities in India, do you say that you are being discriminated. common, work for development, its a constant improvment.
    For all these natural things, you want a new state? even if u have one, none of this will be there unless you specially have some measures to take care.. (i mean the culture) as you have to develop to survive.

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  36. Vishwa:

    If so, then in future, north telangana might demand a separate state because all the development is focussed in and around Hyderabad, in south telangana. Do you agree for further division of Telangana, because it might add one more state and enhance diversity??

    Telangana has to ensure it develops its districts more or less equally so that we don’t give a reason why some districts want to separate. Districts of Telangana should feel that they are better off living in united Telangana instead of being separate.

    Having said that, if we fail to do that over a period of time, and if in future certain parts of Telangana want to divide, then we should accommodate that request and not fight like what Andhras are doing right now.

    If Telangana separates into two and Hyderabad goes with South while Warangal (my hometown) goes with North, I would willingly let it go with the South.

    Please think with a bigger perspective, because you are Indian first and don't confine yourselvs to just Telangana. Don't take it otherwise.

    So why did you ancestors fight for Andhra State from Madras State? Think of being Indian first - go back to join Madras State and prove that you are really genuine when you say the above. That's when we will believe you.

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  37. Vishwa,

    You brought up the Indian Value: Unity in Diversity

    and I proved how Telangana strengthens the Indian value.

    If you want to talk about your personal values, take many wives, etc -- thats upto you. I can't do much about your personal values.

    Just because you have a keyboard doesn't mean you can type anything you want. The laws of arithmetic and physics still apply.

    Your incomptency in basic arithmetic is proven. I don't blame you. It is a problem created by our education system!

    May this Telangana nama noothana samvathsaram give you better arithmetic and reasoning abilties and less time with keyboard!

    Best Regards,
    Idler.

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  38. creating seperate Hyderabad State along with Telangana state will add even more more more state. More diverse.

    But, I did not bring up the Unity and Diversity. Someone from United Andhra bandwagon brought it and I addressed his concern, how that value is taken care of.

    So, go fight with the United Andhra guy on it. You are addressing the wrong person.

    You should work on your reading comprehension. :)

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  39. Idler:

    I was just trying to prove your stupid logic of extending the diversity concept to clothing, food habits etc. Who is stupid, its upto the bloggers to decide based on our comments. You are talking like a person suffering with inferiority complex. If you have something worth to say, just do it but don't resort to personal abuse.

    A person who is supporting to destroy the mother India's unity in diversity values, using stupid arithmetic logic, can go to any extent of having multiple diverse wives in his personal life. The thoughts and state of your mind, indicate that.

    If you abuse me personally again, you will regret. Just focus on the issue or just don't reply.

    "Thalani thanne vaadu vunte -- thaati ni thanne vaadu vuntaadu"

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  40. Sujai:

    ///
    Please think with a bigger perspective, because you are Indian first and don't confine yourselvs to just Telangana. Don't take it otherwise.

    So why did you ancestors fight for Andhra State from Madras State? Think of being Indian first - go back to join Madras State and prove that you are really genuine when you say the above. That's when we will believe you.///

    Andhra Pradesh was formed out of Madras state based on linguistic grounds, to unify telugus and get separated from tamils. AP is the first, among the many linguistic states and not the only one. At the time of AP formation, there was policy for creation of new states based on linguistics.

    What is the current national policy for creation of new states in India??

    What is the criteria?? KCR's fake fast hunger strike?? No sane person will ever compare the fake hunger strike of KCR with the great Potti Sreeraamulu.

    When you hate andhras so much, do you perfer Nizam's glorious rule or Andhras rule ??

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  41. Teluguna:

    While formation of Andhra Pradesh, Telangana leaders agreed to make Hyderabad as the capital city of Integrated State of Andhra Pradesh, that means everything related to Hyderabad is related to every person living in the state of Andhra Pradesh. Once telangana leaders agreed for Hyderabad as capital city of Andhra Pradesh, it no more belongs to telangana only. Do you think, it is fair to give the entire integrated state capital, Hyderabad, just to one particular region of Telangana??

    If you go by that logic, Telanganas are going to bring in other promises that were made by Andhras while forming the state. Two assembly resolutions were passed in 1955 to ‘generously’ treat Telangana and assuring them the jobs that are created in Telangana for Telangana people only. In 1956, they signed the Gentlemen’s Agreement. What happened to that? All the clauses were broken. The clause for Deputy CM was broken on 1st November 1956, the very formation of Andhra Pradesh.

    Telangana history is fraught with broken promises and betrayals.

    So, please don’t expect Telangana to part with Hyderabad just because it made a promise to keep the capital of entire Andhra Pradesh. If we go by what Telangana let go in the last fifty three years, we should get a lot in return. Do you want us to go that path?

    Every new state creation involves sacrifice from the end of the separatists. Gujarat sacrificed Mumbai to get a new state. Andhra Pradesh sacrificed Madras to get a new state. For Telangana state, are you willing to sacrifice on Hyderabad??

    We sacrificed a lot more by being in united state. We should have got Telangana long ago but the only reason we didn’t is because Andhras kept holding onto us.

    Sacrificing capital city is not related to who asks for a separate state. It is about where the capital city lies. Many states got formed even though there was no major demand or clamor for the state.

    The only way Telangana state can be formed is by compromising on Hyderabad.

    Why should we compromise again after making so many sacrifices and compromises all along?

    Sorry guys, you shouldn't have joined with Andhras in the first place at the time of formation of AP. Why did you join with Andhras??

    There were many reservations against joining Andhra Pradesh, but we got assurances and promises. We trusted you and joined the state. When we realized that you never intended to keep those promises we made a huge protest in 1969, but you ensured we did not get our state.

    Our founding fathers at that time took a decison, now we can't do anything.

    Why not?

    Punjab was trifurcated in 1966. Most Northeast States got formed in 1970s. Three states were carved out in 2000. Who says that states in India are static? Even Indian Constitution allows for separation and creation of new states. States are not sacred.

    Mahatma Gandhi agreed to partition of India, even when majority of Indians didn't like it, what can we do now, rewrite history and ask Pakisthan and Bangladesh to reunite with India??

    You don’t get the point. It was certain number of Muslims who didn’t want to stay in India and therefore they got their country. What Mahatma Gandhi thought is irrelevant.

    If you are so desperate to get Telangana at any cost, one possible solution: Telangana state with Warangala as capital, Hyderabad becomes second capital of India.

    Now you know why Telangana leaders talk negatively about Andhras - because some of them, like here, show extreme greed.

    This time around we are not going to fall for your promises of talks or compromises.

    You will get your Andhra State without Hyderabad. You now have many choices – Vizag, Vijayawada, Kurnool, etc.

    Just chill!

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  42. Vishwa:

    Andhra Pradesh was formed out of Madras state based on linguistic grounds, to unify telugus and get separated from tamils. AP is the first, among the many linguistic states and not the only one. At the time of AP formation, there was policy for creation of new states based on linguistics.

    Little bit of history helps. You can read the same on my blog. That would spare me from writing the same stuff again.

    Andhra State did not get formed on linguistic grounds. When Andhra State was formed out of Madras State, there was no policy for creation of new states. Andhra State was formed in 1953 after Potti Sriramulu died during his fast. The demand for separate state was made with the apprehension that Tamils would dominate in Madras State, because they are more educated and more in number.

    Andhra Pradesh was formed in 1956, going against the recommendation made in SRC that Telangana should be given an option to join the state only after 1961 elections, and that too only after 2/3 of the assembly votes for it.

    What is the current national policy for creation of new states in India??

    Chattisgarh, Uttarakhand and Jharkhand were formed in 2000 and they were NOT done on linguistic basis.

    When you hate andhras so much, do you perfer Nizam's glorious rule or Andhras rule ??

    We prefer self-rule. Why is the choice Nizam/Andhras. Why can’t it be Telangana for Telangana people?

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  43. Sujai:

    Your baseless hate propaganda on andhras in this blog will come to an end soon. Because, soon the government will publish an official document about the developmental figures from all the three regions of Andhra/Rayalaseema/Telangana. I am pretty sure those numbers will not surprise you, because somewhere deep inside you, you know the truth that telangana region has progressed on all fronts compared to other regions after integration of AP.

    Once the telangana backwardness lie is nailed, you will raise the issue of self-respect and self-rule, which are abstract intangible issues.

    So, Good Luck with your HATE propaganda on Andhras and your dreams for Separate Telangana.

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  44. Please start another movement to divide Telangana into 10 states, so that there will not be any more movements in the near future.

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  45. Sujai:

    **Andhra State did not get formed on linguistic grounds.****

    Andhra Pradesh is the first state in India to form on linguistic basis. Read a famous historian article to clarify your mind: http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/mag/2003/03/30/stories/2003033000040300.htm

    Read some authentic documents, or atleast some basic AP school history books. Sorry to know your grip over our Andhra history. I assume that you are following some extreme left wing maoist literature.

    ****What is the current national policy for creation of new states in India??

    Chattisgarh, Uttarakhand and Jharkhand were formed in 2000 and they were NOT done on linguistic basis. ******

    What is the current national policy for creation of new states in India, which are to be formed on non-linguistic grounds??

    Are you ready to wait for the formation of Telangana state, till such a national policy is created for the formation of new states. If you cannot wait, are you ready to take telangana without capital city (Hyd) like Jharkhand, Uttarkand, Chattisgradh (not taken existing capital cities)??

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  46. Sujai:

    Andhra history article:

    http://www.hinduonnet.com/
    thehindu/mag/2003/03/30/
    stories/2003033000040300.htm

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  47. Anonymous:

    Please start another movement to divide Telangana into 10 states, so that there will not be any more movements in the near future.

    That’s a good idea to start the new state with, that there is a possibility that the entire state of Telangana would break once again. This is a good fear to have. Hopefully, Telangana will ensure it will not neglect some districts favoring only few others. I want to see even districts like Adilabad to get its preferential share so that it can rival other districts. I don’t want our Telanganas to repeat the same that Andhras have done.

    I would like to see Mulki Rules continue even after formation of Telangana, and make sure that all districts get their opportunities on an equitable basis.

    I believe that creation of new states in India augurs well for regions that have been neglected elsewhere. After creation of few more states in India, the incumbent states may start concentrating on neglected regions because of the fear that they may separate anytime.

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  48. Vishwa:

    **Andhra State did not get formed on linguistic grounds.****

    Andhra Pradesh is the first state in India to form on linguistic basis.


    Are you talking about Andhra State or Andhra Pradesh? Or are you confusing the two like most Samaikya Andhra protestors who equate Andhras with Telugus?

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  49. Vishwa:

    So, if we keep dividing India further on these self-respect, self-rule, administration,
    economic reasons, where it will end.


    It will result in a vibrant India.

    Formation of Telangana State will trigger the degradation
    of Indian values like Unity in Diversity, and also, Indian internal and external security.


    Formation of Telangana state will only enhance the image of Unity in Diversity.
    “Unity in Diversity” does not mean we have only one state or a pre-determined number of states.

    India internal security will be weakened due to naxal strengthening. Indian external security will be at risk, because our dangerous volatile neighbors like Pakisthan, Bangladesh, and China, would anytime prefer a internally fragmented weak Indian states.

    Naxal Movement started in Telangana only after the failure of 1969-1973 Telangana Movement. The disillusionment with Indian political, electoral, democratic and legal institutions was the impetus for start of Naxal Movement in this region.

    If Telangana had been formed in 1970s, there is a good chance we might not have seen Naxal Movement in Telangana region.

    Further division of India, is it good or bad from Indian National Security point of view??

    Division of India into more states has no bearing on National Security.

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  50. If every Indian don't condemn and stop the separatist movements in India, soon every district will feel neglected and will demand a new state.

    What is the definition of Self-rule?? How you define it ?

    Does it mean, only , person born on the soil of telangana ruling telangana people?

    When you hate andhras so much, what will you do when a person born on telangana soil with andhra blood/genes in him due to his andhra ancestors, becomes the CM of Telangana?? Trust me, telangana folklore/ballads/songs tells us that andhras are oppressive cheats by nature and their genes are very dangerous. So, Andhra race is a threat to Telangana race.

    Telangana state should be protected from deadly Andhra race at any cost. Do you think DNA-fingerprinting/genetic analysis must be made mandatory for all the persons aiming for CM position of Telangana state, to find out whether they are Andhra race or Telangana race??

    Where this entire civilized humans are heading to in this 21st century knowledge economy based societies??

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  51. Sujai:

    Andhra State, Andhra Pradesh State, Unifed Andhra, Integrated State of Andhra Pradesh, Visaalandhra, etc - or whatever you call them or name them - all of them are based on liguistic grounds. "One State for Telugu Language speaking people"

    Its upto you to read the history to get confused or confuse others. Already lakhs of your friends, Osmania students are confused with brainwashed brains and hatred towards andhras. When you listen to the speeches made by the various student leaders in "Osmania Vidyardhi Gharjana", one will get the feeling that they are naxalites-in-the-making.

    Brainwashed telangana brains are a threat to Telangana people's lives.

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  52. Idler:

    Focus on the comments and posts, rather than IDs of the bloggers. In what way, it will help you. My name is Viswanath.

    You seem to be the gunman for Sujai. Your job is to protect Sujai from Andhras.

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  53. Idli,

    I was only supporting your "MORE" states and More Unity and Diversity concept, not to my Andhra bandwagons concept.

    I guess, You should work on your soul comprehension. :)

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  54. Vishwa:

    Andhra State, Andhra Pradesh State, Unifed Andhra, Integrated State of Andhra Pradesh, Visaalandhra, etc - or whatever you call them or name them - all of them are based on linguistic grounds.

    They are not the same. Andhra State was formed when there was no prevailing mood for forming states based on linguistic basis. After the formation of Andhra State, there was an agreement to create states based on linguistic basis and that formed one of the guiding principles for the SRC.

    Fazal Ali clearly writes pros and cons for merging Telangana with Andhra State. It was not given that all states should be strictly along linguistic lines.

    Andhra State formed after separation from Madras State in 1953. Telangana was merged with Andhra State in 1956 to form Andhra Pradesh, but it was a conditional merger. For Telangana people, language was not as important as other considerations and we expressed those concerns even before the merger.

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  55. hmmmmm did i say Idli? now our sherlock holmes conclude that i am Manohar, yes, now i understand injstice happening to Telangana guys...other wire Idly should have got a job as IG of Intelligence.

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  56. Sujai:

    Please read the article I have posted before to get clarity on the formation basis for Andhra Pradesh, that will make your life easier and also other bloggers'.

    Sujai, are you trying to rewrite the history of AP, that it was formed on linguistic basis?

    Whether you like it or not, AP is formed in 1956, on linguistic basis. I am sorry, its a done deal.

    Fazal Ali report is not against Integrated AP by merging Telangana and Andhra, but he had few apprehensions. Anywayz, if Fazal Ali report is so against merger, why didn't they stop this merger at that time??

    Bifurcation of AP is not easy, no matter what stories you say.

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  57. Anonymous:

    If every Indian don't condemn and stop the separatist movements in India, soon every district will feel neglected and will demand a new state.

    It’s up to India, it’s people, it’s administration, it’s democracy, it’s political system, it’s institutions, to make every district feel that they are NOT neglected and that they are better off in a state rather than on their own.

    The way most of us want to be with India, many districts want to be in a state. However, there can always be someone who feels neglected. India should be able to accommodate the aspirations of such people through various methods. Not all of them have to lead to separation.

    What is the definition of Self-rule?? How you define it ?

    It’s when a certain people feel that they are being ruled by the people who represent them.

    When you hate andhras so much, what will you do when a person born on telangana soil with andhra blood/genes in him due to his andhra ancestors, becomes the CM of Telangana??

    You have read the whole thing very wrong. I don’t hate Andhras. I do maintain that Andhras have discriminated, marginalized and dominated Telangana people, and I have the cases for each of those things. As individuals, I have many Andhra friends. I request them to understand why we feel discriminated and would like to concede that they have discriminated us, as a group, may be not as individuals.

    I believe that these two regions can amicably coexist as two states instead of two regions within-the-same-state because that has failed many times in the past.

    That does not mean hate is the word I would use to describe my feeling for Andhras. Telanganas just want to let go. The fact that Andhras are not letting us go has becoming irksome. An irritation, that’s all. I think I am irritated by Andhras in the present context. But I know that that feeling will subside very soon.

    I criticize Indians on Kashmir Issue, Hindus on many issues, and yet I don’t hate Indians or Hindus.

    Where this entire civilized humans are heading to in this 21st century knowledge economy based societies??

    Maturity. To live and let live.
    One day, hopefully, we can coexist peacefully. For Telangana, that day will come when it thrives as a separate state.

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  58. Telangana culture, telangana culture, telangana culture ani ohhhhh ani thega vuupeskuntaaaru

    Assalu ee telangana culture ante yemiti?? Adhe yemanna manushulaki ardham kaanidhaa. Nizam gaadi paalanalo, Urdhu chetha telugu ni rape chesthe vacchindhe telangana baaasha, anthena??

    KCR-baasha telangana baashe na?? Telangana baasha kaakapothe mari ye baasha?? KCR-telangana movement leader, mari telangana baasha lone matlaadaali kadhaa??

    KCR-baasha ante bhuuthulu -- veedi nooru phenyl tho kadagaali rojuki vandha saarlu.

    Osmania students baasha telangana baasha -- adhi baashaa naa narukuthaam, kudhesthaam, champuthaam??

    Yemi telangana vudhyamam yemo gaani -- telangana valla paruvu thiyyadaaniki vacchinatlu vundhi ee vudhyamam. Andhra janaalaki intha kaalam, telangana baasha gurinchi antha theliyadhu, intha kaalam adhi kudaa teluge anukunnaam -- kaani KCR gaadu, OU students maatram bhuuthule telangana baasha anna types lo paruvu theesthunnaaru.

    Yendhuku raa bhuuthulu ante - aavesam, viplavam, anagathokka baddaam, etc etc -- ivi nammukone naxalites loki chaala mandhi yellaaru -- naxalites intha kaalam aduvullo vundi thuppakulu pattukoni yemi peekaaru

    Telangana paataa/aataa --- nalla shaalavaalu, yerra jendaalu, gaddar style paatalu -- chuusevaadiki idhi yedho naxalite culture anukuntaaru.

    Okka savaal andhra nunchi -- meelo okkadu bhuuthulu lekundaa -- telangana bhaasha lone telangana culture gurinchi ee blog lo pettandi.

    Telangana producer sangam anta -- Yevado Yeswanth Reddy anta -- assalu sisalaina telangana movie anta -- title yemito thelusaa -- " Nee bhaanchan nee khaal mokkuthaa" ......aa title chuusi ye telangana vaadu kudaa aa theater vaipuki kudaa velladu

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  59. >>Andhra State did not get formed on linguistic grounds. When Andhra State was formed out of Madras State, there was no policy for creation of new states.

    This shows how much knowledge u have on history.Before independence Nehru said this "the moment we have our country will divide on linguistic basis".This Bas***d is the culprit for many things in India.

    And Andhra was absolutely formed on liguistics basis.If u think its not then learn basics.Read the "Madras Manadee" movement which lead to Andhra formation.Don't think u know history better than anyone else.

    Before merging Andhra has a booming economy.It was communist party proposal who ruled u and fought for u against Nizam to merge all telugus even the bellary places which speak telugu.Andhra guys never eyed on Hyderabad.If they kept their offices in tents they cud have constructed building in few yrs.They don't have to loose a capital city for buildings.What nonsense u talk.

    No difference between u guys and Terroists.They are brainwashed regarding religion and u r brainwashed regarding region.The same old 10 points story whether its visual or discussion.

    In 1971 people fought for separate andhra saying when we don't have right to work in hyderbad lets divide we too were promised don't worry and a law was made.When there is a law how all these jobs are illegal ?

    And All jobs to telangana is not the clause.Its only 40-60%.Don't change the clauses for u r sake or to prove ur point.

    From past 5 yrs even Telangana is getting irrigation projects so u stopped saying Water.Now u say "Self Repect".

    Schools can be construted.Minor irrgation can be construted.So u now took the point Self Rule.

    Chenna reddy himself said that we don't want Telagana State.

    I hope these idiots shud be given a state and have fun with their "self rule". Its better we get divided atleast now else we need to bare these idiots again and again.

    I vote for separate Andhra.

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  60. I vote for separate Andhra.

    That's the first sensible thing you have said. You could have said that in the beginning, I wouldn't have wasted my time.

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  61. Region left to Indravati and Godavari(Badhrachalam) was not part of Hyderabad State! that is part and parcel of East Godavari of Andhra State, People should realize that most of the water available to East and west godavari districts is not only from Godavari but also from tributetires like Indravati and Sabari..Huge amount of water gathers from Eastren ghats and flows through Sabari which is part of Badhrachalam region of East Godavari, Polavaram Helps to store lot of Water before it empties in Bay of Bengal! there is no "DopiDi" in that. one should not worried about the projects which constructed below their region instead should talk about projects like Babli. dont should why are they building Polavaram but ask why are we not getting projects like Polavaram.

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  62. Babu Anonymous:

    My dear friend, vaadu yevado telangana separatist idiot manalni recchakottaadu ani manam vaadiki separate telangana icchesthaama. Visaalandhra kosam yendharo mahaanubhaavula thyagaalu vunnaayi.

    Yevado chettha visham kakke sannaasula kosam, telangana icchesthaama.

    Andhra Pradesh ni cheelche hakku yevvadiki ledhu, velli pucchalapalli sundarayya ni adagandi lekapothe marri chenna reddy ni adagandi.

    Narakandi yentha mandhini narukuthaaro, Narakadam andharu modhalu pedithe yemavuthundhi

    "Pondi raa Pondi, manchi cheyyadaaniki panikiraani verpaatuvadhullaara pondi, mee annalatho aduvulloki pondi raa, meeru ee nagarikatha gala samaajamulo meeru dheniki paniki raaru vidwamsaaniki thappa"

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  63. Anonymous said: "I vote for separate Andhra"
    Sujai: "That's the first sensible thing you have said. You could have said that in the beginning, I wouldn't have wasted my time".

    Kiran: now I see your goal is to separated, so, you formulate the figures to your favor. Initially, some meaning in this moment, but as we going through deep, I feel I’m mis-leaded. Had the effort put in to competitive spirit, instead of envoy, I thing all of us would have developed as the #1 in the whole country.
    Sujai : “We sacrificed a lot more by being in united state. We should have got Telangana long ago but the only reason we didn’t is because Andhras kept holding onto us.”
    Kiran: “This is not true. Jai Andhra moment, its you guys stopped us for separate state. After all we developed the land (hyd), you want us to leave the job machine?”
    Anonymous: The only way Telangana state can be formed is by compromising on Hyderabad.
    Kiran: I agree. For the simple fact it’s a joint property and one is not ready for getting out.

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  64. American MNCs are evaluating how much they have invested into Hyderabad.

    They are planning on getting the Indian govt. to annexe Hyderabad to USA because... they've invested so much, they can pretty much buy out Hyderabad and make sure there are no more bandhs!

    Indian govt. will surely see a profit in this. Why not give away a city and get all debt cleared and end this turmoil over Hyderabad.

    Afterall.... The Americans were the reason for REAL growth in Hyderabad. The Andhras and the rest of the gang are just reaping those benefits.

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  65. Kiran: I agree. For the simple fact it’s a joint property and one is not ready for getting out.

    Hyderabad is not a Joint property as claimed by many Andhras. Hyderabad belongs to Telangana.

    Andhras... If there is justice in Supreme Court... we will file a case on you guys for breaching the agreements... and YOU WILL END UP PAYING US RENT FOR USING OUR CITY HYDERABAD. THE RENT WILL BE DECENTLY HIGH. COUNT YOUR DAYS IN SECRETARIAT.

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  66. Telangana will not be formed in the near future. Just for talks another five years. In the name of consensus, telangana state formation will be put on hold forever. These are the indications coming from center and congress party spokesperson, Singhvi.

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  67. KCR speech in 1996, on Six point formula and zonal system is being shown on TV channels. This madhorchod is talking about abolishment of zonal system in assembly, and the same guy is leading telangana movement.

    Biggest enemy to telangana movement is our own telangana political leaders.

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  68. @Kiran

    u just came to know now.Its was there actual plan.Valaki separation pichi patti chala rojulu ayindi.No reason they just want separation.I find the only and major problem is Irrigation sector.nothing else.

    1)We lost our culture.
    Nosense.All 9 districts have same slang and culture.Why Telangana culture will be followed in other parts of AP>Are they following rayalseema culture in telangana?

    2)Telangana artiste don't get proper recongnition in Industry

    Another nonsense.If they are not recongnised how come babu mohan,venumadhav,siva reddy and others got good fame?Even if there candidates don't go to chennai till 1994 that is also bcoz of andhra guys.I want to ask sujai how many telangana guys are given job in ur Telecom company ? U go with talent or just on regional basis u give jobs?

    3)Jobs
    1972 tarvat they brought a clause saying 4 yrs stay will be considered as Mulki rule so people started coming and joining jobs.And all jobs are not telangana jobs just twisted for there convenience.Even this can be solved.As said by some guy in other post.Develop other areas and start moving them out of hyderabad.

    4)Irrigation
    This need to be concentrated all over state not only telangana.but major share shud go to telangana.try to develop tanks,kuntas minor irrigation project.that will solve problem here.

    All other points are nonsense.They are just summing up trivial issues to show they have major problems.

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  69. When most of the intellectuals, professors, students, industrialists, and politicians are thinking like naxalites, how you will have focus on development in telangana??

    Look at all the speeches of telangana leaders on television or in telangana meetings, 90% of speech will be on hatred towards andhras and 10% will be about telangana backwardness. When these people are talking like extremists, there is no way their brains can focus on vision for development of telangana.

    For every problem in telangana, they have one excuse, its all because of andhras. These people behave like small school kids who need to be spoon-fed by andhras.

    KCR talks in assembly about abolishing six point formula and zones, and this same fellow is doing fake fasts and became the godfather of telangana.

    Naxalites are having the last laugh!!

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  70. When most of the intellectuals, professors, students, industrialists, and politicians are thinking like naxalites, how you will have focus on development in telangana??

    Do you have personal experience of talking to Naxalites?

    If everyone born in Telangana wants their own state, will you call every Telanganite a naxal?

    Shame on you guys. Enough of your loot. Leave these poor folks in peace. The best thing you can do for Telugu people is just leave Telangana in peace and they will make their own prosperity.

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  71. This is not true. Jai Andhra moment, its you guys stopped us for separate state. After all we developed the land (hyd), you want us to leave the job machine?
    Kiran,
    This shows your arrogance and inept attitude towards telangana and its people.
    Can you exlain to me how this happened?(I mean development)

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  72. I am from Andhra and agree with your premise that two smaller states are more efficient. The state should have been divided in 1972. We are living with consequences of that historic blunder

    But, I totally disagree with your petty-minded attacks on Andhra people. I think that type of attitude is the primary reason for fear and uncertainty among Andhras and resulting in delay of T formation. Following statement is an example-

    While Telanganas cite copious amount of discrimination, Andhras deny discrimination exists.

    I have a simple question on this comment:

    Do you agree that discrimination is illegal under Indian constitution? If so, can you prove it in a court of law and get compensation? If you cannot prove your allegations in a court of law, they are baseless.

    Please do not hate or envy Andhras for success. It was not given to us, but earned by us through hard work. We did not exploit or discriminate anyone.

    I also do not understand the obsession of Andhra people with HYD. Folks, this is a wonderful opportunity to develop our own capital and other cities. Unlike most of you, I have been to heart of Telangana - like Warangal and Nizamabad. Trust me, there is nothing in common between those places and Andhra regions. It was our own stupidity to over-develop HYD over other cities. Accept the reality, learn from the mistakes and negotiate for our future.

    I am sure the common folks in both Telangana and Andhra states want to end the strikes and disruption at the earliest. I think everyone will accept a fair division with a well-defined timeline.

    Jai Telangana
    Jai Andhra

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  73. Reasons all these peasants bring on for a separate state :

    Respect : Firstly respect is something to be earned but not to be demanded. Everyone knows how Gaddar is respected everywhere in AP. Many artists were given opportunities to come up in Telugu Cinemas. Every movie or play will have atleast one character speaking Telangana accent. You want the news channels to say news in Telangana accent ? thats what makes you guys believe that the accent is not being ridiculed

    Self Rule: Telangana region is allways ruled by Telangana MLA's and MP's . Why haven't those idiots fastened to death for development of the region. Why no single student organization cared for this before YSR demise.

    Jobs: 95% of the Indians are facing the toughest competition on this planet in every sector and utilizing every minute to prove their talent and earn their bread. Opportunities are open for everyone, its matter of when and how to seize them. Its talent driven world

    At the cost of many cities Hyderbad has been developed and is being placed at the place where it is now. Same 6th position 10 years back and even now is a non sense logic. It would have been in 20th position if proper investements in pharma, IT and utilties had not taken place.

    Take kazipet / Siddhipet as the capital, in the next hour Telangana state will be granted.

    If separation is the alchemy for all problems, the whole country should be splitted in to tiny manageable parts since we fools has nothing in commong

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  74. observer:

    Firstly respect is something to be earned but not to be demanded.

    You are confusing self-respect with Respect. We are not demanding any respect from anyone. Self-respect is the ability of a certain individual or group to be at peace with himself without having to feel inferior to anyone. That will come about when you are not in a subservient position all the time.

    Every movie or play will have atleast one character speaking Telangana accent.

    In Telugu movies, the guy who speaks Telangana accent is either a buffoon or a villain. And we don’t believe that is a way respect is shown to certain section of the people. Showing Germans as villains in every movie does not mean Germans are now respected.

    Self Rule: Telangana region is allways ruled by Telangana MLA's and MP's .

    If you go by that logic, India was ruled by Indians even under British Empire. Elections were held, Congress, Muslim, Akali parties contested and won elections, and became representative of the people. And yet, we did not think it was self-rule. We defined the self-rule only when the entire government is representative of the people. Having MLAs and MPs under the aegis of Andhra domination is not what we call self-rule.

    Why haven't those idiots fastened to death for development of the region.

    Fasted to death is different from fastened to death. I think they were ‘fastened’ to death under Andhra rule. They couldn’t wriggle out of that death trap.

    Why no single student organization cared for this before YSR demise.

    There are nearly 15 student groups that have come up in the last thirty years. You just failed to notice them.

    Opportunities are open for everyone, its matter of when and how to seize them.

    They are not. They are open to the people of a certain region. Government jobs are reserved for locals. Certain jobs are reserved for women. Certain jobs are reserved for lower castes. Telangana merged with Andhra on the promises of reserving the jobs of Telangana for Telangana people. It was even upheld by Supreme Court. Andhras went about flouting all agreement and verdicts.

    Take kazipet / Siddhipet as the capital, in the next hour Telangana state will be granted.

    Who are you to give us the next capital, when we already have a capital in Hyderabad? Now do you understand what self-rule means? You don’t tell us what to do in our region – which you have been doing all the time. It’s high time you let go of that habit – hence self-rule.

    If separation is the alchemy for all problems, the whole country should be splitted in to tiny manageable parts since we fools has nothing in common

    I am not sure what you mean by alchemy here. You should take a relook at yourself when you say:

    Its talent driven world

    I am beginning to doubt if you would have any place if it was purely talent-driven world.

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  75. SRS:

    The state should have been divided in 1972. We are living with consequences of that historic blunder.

    We can always correct historic blunders.

    But, I totally disagree with your petty-minded attacks on Andhra people. I think that type of attitude is the primary reason for fear and uncertainty among Andhras and resulting in delay of T formation.

    On the other hand, we believe that the only reason why we don’t get our Telangana is the domination of Andhra politicians and people who are bent on holding onto Telangana against its will.

    If Telangana is formed quickly, I don’t see why Telangana people would continue to verbally attack Andhras. You can put a stop to it right away.

    Do you agree that discrimination is illegal under Indian constitution?

    Discrimination is NOT illegal in Indian Constitution.

    Please do not hate or envy Andhras for success. It was not given to us, but earned by us through hard work. We did not exploit or discriminate anyone.

    That’s how Whites could say about discrimination towards Blacks, Stalin would say to Cossacks, Khmer Rouge would say to Cambodians, Russians would say to Afghans, and upper caste would say to lower caste, men would say to women, non-handicapped would say to handicapped, and so on.

    When Andhra Pradesh was formed, your politicians assured us certain promises. They clearly said that our resources, our revenues and our jobs would be protected and safeguarded to the people of Telangana. Not one but two resolutions were made in Andhra State assembly before the formation of Andhra Pradesh to give us those guarantees.

    If you had intended to come down to Telangana to usurp their jobs, why did you make those promises? If you thought the world is all about open competition, why did you sign Gentlemen’s Agreement?

    While you are at it, why did you break up Andhra State from Madras State citing the very same reasons that you will be lose out to highly educated Tamils? Why did you fear open competition within Madras State?

    It was our own stupidity to over-develop HYD over other cities. Accept the reality, learn from the mistakes and negotiate for our future.

    Thank you very much. Now let go of us. We will be very happy to see you off and agree to remain friends.

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  76. @Sujai

    Please answer the question posted by someone.How many Telanganites are recruited in ur company ? I was about to ask u this Q's.

    ~Venu

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  77. In Telugu movies, the guy who speaks Telangana accent is either a buffoon or a villain.

    You know Sujai, Cinema industry is from Coastal Andhra, most artists, directors, writers, singers etc all are either from Chennai or Andhra, a product made by this group will useally in their style, if telangana region is not comfortable with that or any issues with that simply dont watch it! then people might consider making movies in Telangana accent with telangana heroes, batukamma scenes etc..

    when you have no issues watching a movie in the way they are produced why should even a producer like Dil Raju from you region would gamble to make a movie in different Style?

    I saw a scene in TV where a guy asks another guy some question, other guys says something dumb and the first guy asks him "ye Ooru manadhi?" and the second guy says "Sreekakulam".

    it doesnt mean who ever lives in Sreekakulam are dumbs, learn watching movie as a movie, dont relate some cheap comedy scenes created by some cheap directors to serious issues like State beautification...


    Did you notice an advt regarding engine oil from castrol is dubbed in Telangana accent.."Emandetidi naakada, Otti gaddi molicheti BeeDu tappa"...

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  78. Venu,

    Whats your point and how is your question relevant? Why do you think you are entitled to answers?

    Best,
    Idler.

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  79. Anonymous:

    When most of the intellectuals, professors, students, industrialists, and politicians are thinking like naxalites, how you will have focus on development in telangana??

    If you think that entire community of ‘intellectuals, professors, students, industrialists, and politicians’ of Telangana are thinking like naxalites, why do keep living with them in the same state? Why are you forcing yourself onto such people?

    Isn’t this in best interest of you that you leave these people, especially when even intellectuals think like naxalites?

    For every problem in telangana, they have one excuse, its all because of andhras. These people behave like small school kids who need to be spoon-fed by andhras.

    We don’t want to be spoon-fed anymore. So why don’t leave us alone?

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  80. @Idler

    When a question is asked to someone else.Please don't reply.It was intended to sujai and not to u.

    A "Anonymous" guy asked it.After his post I too got some doubt.So let him clarify then will talk about it.

    ~Venu

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  81. Anonymous:
    Valaki separation pichi patti chala rojulu ayindi.No reason they just want separation.

    OK. We don’t have a case. We are mad. Why do you want to stay with mad people in the same state?

    1)We lost our culture.
    Nosense.All 9 districts have same slang and culture.Why Telangana culture will be followed in other parts of AP


    We are not asking you to follow Telangana culture. We just want to follow Telangana culture in Telangana. Can you spare us and let us go and be on our own. That way I don’t have to answer these questions to you.

    1972 tarvat they brought a clause saying 4 yrs stay will be considered as Mulki rule so people started coming and joining jobs.

    Who brought that clause? What happened to the Supreme Court decision of 1972? Why did Andhra politicians demand for a separate state for themselves under Jai Andhra movement?

    All other points are nonsense.They are just summing up trivial issues to show they have major problems.

    What you think are trivial are important to us. Can we have our own state so that we don’t have to be answerable to you?

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  82. Wake up for your rights!

    Start a civil disobedience movement.

    Will they start calling all telanganites Maoists?

    Do they have room in their jails for 4 crore people?

    Do they have it in them to continue their governance if ALL MLAs, MLCs, ZP and govt. officials from Telangana RESIGN?

    If they call every decent and educated person a 'naxalite', how do they expect the telangana people to not utter a single word in disagreement and anger?

    Are we Naxalites? Did we use weapons? Did we attack them in forests? Did we break laws?

    We are asking for self-governance AFTER 6 decades of eager wait and tolerance.... coz the jalayagnam is a sham ... they are looting us over and over...

    Call to ALL employees in state-govt offices, PLEASE RESIGN!

    Call to ALL teachers and teachers-unions... PLEASE RESIGN!

    Call to all RTC, Railways and other departments, .... PLEASE RESIGN!

    Call to all MLAs, MLCs and ZPs... PLEASE RESIGN!

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  83. @Sujai

    >>We just want to follow Telangana culture in Telangana.

    U r still following the same right.Nothing has changed.Its only
    in hyderabad eventher eu have all slangs and all cultures followed.

    >>Who brought that clause? What happened to the Supreme Court decision of 1972? Why did Andhra politicians demand for a separate state for themselves under Jai Andhra movement?

    What brought 1969 movement? u feel Telanganites are supressed or whatever u think made it to revolt.similarly Andhrite when supreme court said Mulki rules
    shud be accepted than they revolted saying than lets divide why shud we have common state with so many rules ? Indira gandhi brought a clause saying 4 yrs stay in hyderabad is enough.Ask ur professors they will tell u.PV was the CM at that time.After that Chenna reddy who said we dont want telangan state.

    >>What u think trivial are important to us

    :).The point u always gave are trivial sujai.

    >People not in film industry is andhra guys mistake ?
    > If u sold out ur land during 1960 for money bcoz of ur backwardness and the person who bought it and gave u money has become enemy today?

    >If someone don't give holiday on ur bonalu has become a big issue today ?
    >If Andhra guy did not carry ur bonalu means u start hating him ?
    >U teach ur kid humanity or enemity ?

    Even now I say all others are trivial.Except for Irrigation.If u say Irrigation is the major concern I will definitely say yes.But if u say Self rule that nothing but nonsense.If u think by forming state u will get government jobs like chattisgarh than u need to rethink.The literacy rate in both the areas is far different.Even than u think they are major concerns I can't help.

    Enjoy ur State!!!

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  84. As his name suggests, Idler has literally nothing to do. He is bored of his boredom. Ignore him for your own good.

    There is no point in convincing or answering Idler. It is as good as "Cheviti vaadi chevilo sankham voodinatlu"

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  85. @idler you should also add the fact that CBN, YSR and their kin bought lands surrounding Hyd for peanuts (when they were in power respectively) and went ahead with their investments on these lands. At what cost?? at the cost of poor labourers dismantling their humble homes. I am sure all of you realize how difficult it is to be a proud owner of even a decent 1 acre land. Do you guys, who talk about development of Hyd have any idea how many lower-middle class telangana families were reduced to poverty because of these land-grabbing schemes ? Upliftment of few thousand IT engineers at the cost of other fellow citizens is outright crime. Hyderabad today boasts of highest amount of illegal land-grabbing across India by power hungry seemandhra politicians, bureaucrats whose sole purpose is to mint money like there’s no tmrw. Next time any of you claim/argue that Hyderabad was developed because of investments from Andhra you better check your facts and mind your language. How dare u think all reasons we claim for formation of telangana state are b…s**t?? According to me illegal land occupation is even bigger problem we are facing right now behind closed doors which people like you and me will never come to know. Telanganaites have lost copious amounts of telangana land already and numerous villages have vanished because of this. Who is supposed to be blamed for this. Mind you, don’t ever talk about investments from next time. You’ve given nothing but pain to us and its only 1% of problems that you and me know that telangana is facing right now. Telangana state formation is the solution for this and no sane telanganaite is left with any more patience.

    PS: Evado orvaleni odu inthaku mundu eppudo comment lo pettindu “prathi comment lo Jai Telangana pedtaru pani lekunda” ani………marri em pettala bujji……..okkasari kaadu 100 sarlu pedtam / antam – Jai Telangana Jai Jai Telangana

    NOTE: Btw, YES Idler is gonna be a gunman to Sujai and I am in turn gonna be the same to Idler……let me know who’s got a problem with that

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  86. @idler you should also add the fact that CBN, YSR and their kin bought lands surrounding Hyd for peanuts (when they were in power respectively) and went ahead with their investments on these lands. At what cost?? at the cost of poor labourers dismantling their humble homes. I am sure all of you realize how difficult it is to be a proud owner of even a decent 1 acre land. Do you guys, who talk about development of Hyd have any idea how many lower-middle class telangana families were reduced to poverty because of these land-grabbing schemes ? Upliftment of few thousand IT engineers at the cost of other fellow citizens is outright crime. Hyderabad today boasts of highest amount of illegal land-grabbing across India by power hungry seemandhra politicians, bureaucrats whose sole purpose is to mint money like there’s no tmrw. Next time any of you claim/argue that Hyderabad was developed because of investments from Andhra you better check your facts and mind your language. How dare u think all reasons we claim for formation of telangana state are b…s**t?? According to me illegal land occupation is even bigger problem we are facing right now behind closed doors which people like you and me will never come to know. Telanganaites have lost copious amounts of telangana land already and numerous villages have vanished because of this. Who is supposed to be blamed for this. Mind you, don’t ever talk about investments from next time. You’ve given nothing but pain to us and its only 1% of problems that you and me know that telangana is facing right now. Telangana state formation is the solution for this and no sane telanganaite is left with any more patience.

    PS: Evado orvaleni odu inthaku mundu eppudo comment lo pettindu “prathi comment lo Jai Telangana pedtaru pani lekunda” ani………marri em pettala bujji……..okkasari kaadu 100 sarlu pedtam / antam – Jai Telangana Jai Jai Telangana

    NOTE: Btw, YES Idler is gonna be a gunman to Sujai and I am in turn gonna be the same to Idler……let me know who’s got a problem with that

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  87. @Sujai

    Can you plz delete the duplicate post above....I've mistakenly hit submit twice
    PS: Delete this comment as well once u see it

    Thanks

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  88. How much the data in that Pamphlets is true? I just checked the medical collages to see whether that Pamphlet info is true or not and looks like it is not. See the link below.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_medical_colleges_in_India#Andhra_Pradesh

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  89. Kiran:
    The data in the pamphlet is very old. From 1980s. It is taken from a paper that was published in a major article. However, it is doing rounds even now.

    That's also the reason why I don't use too much data unless I pick it up from very reliable sources.

    I used that pamphlet to showcase how the movement is spreading in Telangana.

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  90. Thanks Sujai,

    I just got banged by my Andhra friend for talking about the wrong info about medical colleges(which I took from the pamphlet). That was fun.

    Any way if some one has any statistics (real) I love to see those.

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  91. Dear Jai Telangana,
    Eppudu evano okkanigi ghulami chese alavatu maare soochanalu kanla vadthale naaku.. appudu nijam ki, taravatha andhrolaki and gippudemo Idler gaaniki...

    Manchigunnadi nee teeru

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  92. To Kiran Kamisetti,
    The data in the pamphlet is actually from a journal paper published in 1986(I think in EPW) authored by a known researcher on the subject. That was probably due to a renewed interest in telangana affairs after the TNGO's stint at the supreme court which led to GO 610.
    Actually the situaltion like in the pamphlet prevailed until last5-6 years when suddenly due to emergence of TRS and as well as due to permissions sold out to open new medical colleges in last few years. However most colleges in telangana are now moved into Hyderabad suburban and surrounding areas even though they were established to serve remote rural areas.
    So whatever they did not help telangana much. Moreover they are mostly governed by andhra business men who are more interested in real estate than any development of surroundings.
    These new medical colleges and hopitals run in pathetic conditions with little infrastructure and little professional staff.

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  93. @Anonymous

    " Dear Jai Telangana,
    Eppudu evano okkanigi ghulami chese alavatu maare soochanalu kanla vadthale naaku.. appudu nijam ki, taravatha andhrolaki and gippudemo Idler gaaniki...

    Manchigunnadi nee teeru "


    Dear Anonymous,
    Eppudu evano okkanni mosam chese alavatu tappa 'andhraollaki' maare soochanalu kanla vadthale naaku.. appudu telangana ki, taravatha kooda telangana ollaki and gippudemo malla telangana vallakee...

    gaja mosaganilaaga unnadi nee teeru

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  94. Jai Telangana,
    So andhrollaki ghulaami chesinatlu oppukunnatle kada ? Andhrollu mosam chesina cheyyakunna, nuvvu maatram ghulaamigiri maanukune soochanalu kanla vadthalevu.. aakhariki nenu raasinatle raasi naa style ki kooda ghulaam ayinavu... jarantha originality choopinchu leka pothe gitlanae orlukuntu tirugudae migultadi... batku bus stand avutadi :)

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  95. Jai Telangana,

    Don't bother responding to Anonymous Anuses who are so ashamed of their birth, parents and upbringing that they don't use their name or some kind of handle to identify themselves.

    Sujai.. consider disabling anonymous posts and delete posts that are irrelevant to your original post. Your blog is your private property and you don't have to defend others free speech on your property. People should not have free speech rights on your blog, anymore than uninvited random strangers have a right to stay at your house.

    These people definitely have a free speech right on their OWN blog. Not on yours.

    Best,
    Idler.

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  96. @Idler

    I am with you on not replying to crappy arguments by all these anti-telangana morons but Mr.Anonymous warrants me to shed light on some basic history of ours that i thought he should be enlightened with.


    @Anonymous

    “ So andhrollaki ghulaami chesinatlu oppukunnatle kada ? “
    - In a free democratic country there is nothing called ghulaami. All 1,147,995,900 people residing in India are supposed to be treated with equal rights. This fundamental law has been violated by ‘U’ guys big time. In fact, from Andhra Pradesh, the highest post of being the head of government of India (Prime Minister) was held by a Telanganaite. So u decide yourself whose got a upper hand here. Question Answered

    “.. appudu nijam ki, taravatha andhrolaki”
    - I don’t know if you are aware of the fact that British East India Company ruled Madras presidency (which Andhra was a part of) until 1948. Weren’t you guys licking their boots pre-independence ??

    “ Andhrollu mosam chesina cheyyakunna”
    - Per your intelligent conclusions, u agree to the fact that u all are cheats !! Hurray…justice prevails

    “ nuvvu maatram ghulaamigiri maanukune soochanalu kanla vadthalevu”
    - Crappiest Observation ever made….no explanation needed.

    “ aakhariki nenu raasinatle raasi naa style ki kooda ghulaam ayinavu... “
    - That’s called mockery according to me and not copying

    “jarantha originality choopinchu leka pothe gitlanae orlukuntu tirugudae migultadi”
    - Oh wait, u think the questions you’ve posed are some kind of an impeccable Picasso art that the world should cherish? ….originality for what?

    “... batku bus stand avutadi :)”
    - U mean like the END that a supposedly big-shot IT company established by an Andhra guy faced recently? Don’t worry, trait of deceit runs through your genes and not us……once we are set free I swear we will have nothing but prosperity

    - Jai Jai Telangana

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  97. " British East India Company ruled Madras presidency (which Andhra was a part of) until 1948."

    i meant 1947 and not 1948. Correction is important else you (anonymous) might single it out ranting what not.

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  98. Can anybody lead me to any study that has been done on the viability of a separate state in pure economic terms , by any intellectuals or a study group.

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  99. manishi,
    Make a google scholar search

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  100. People are leaders in Telangana Struggle http://tinyurl.com/ykaspsh

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  101. HEre one anonymous guy posting is a big idiot. He doesnt know the history. He should be sent to jail for making foolish uneducated statements.

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  102. Reeks of inferiority complex

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