Wednesday, March 30, 2011

Revealed in Chapter 8: Formula on how to subvert democracy in this country


In a landmark judgment that reveals the dangerous trends that Indian democracy is currently taking, a High Court Judge has asked the Home Ministry to disclose the contents of the ‘secret’ chapter of the Report from Srikrishna Committee which was commissioned to prescribe solutions to the Telangana Movement in Andhra Pradesh.   This judgment by L Narasimha Reddy is peppered with the contents from the infamous Chapter 8 -which formed the underlying basis for recommending Option 6 of ‘keeping the state united’ against the wishes of Telangana people.  

The esteemed Judge after reading the contents of Chapter 8 writes “that the Committee travelled beyond the terms of reference in its endeavour to persuade the Union of India, not to accede to the demand for Telangana...”

The Judge observed: “if one has any doubt about the hidden opposition of the Committee for formation of Telangana, that stands removed with this note”.  

The secret note blatantly recommends ‘managing’ the media by influencing it through government sponsored advertisements, ‘softening’ the political parties by giving its members positions in the government, disciplining the ruling party members to toe the line against the wishes of the people, and making pre-emptive arrests of innocent people in the region to curb the movement.   Any sane reader would conclude that this note attempts to subvert democracy and all its cherished institutions in this country. 

Under the title, ‘media management’, the secret note starts off observing that the electronic channels and newspapers could be used for “molding the public opinion”.  It writes: “The equity holders of the channels and the entire Print Media are with the Seemandhra people.  The main editors/resident and sub-editors, the Film world etc. are dominated by Seemandhra people.  A coordinated action on their part has the potential of shaping the perception of the common man.”  It recommends ‘managing’ the editorial opinions, the headlines, and the content. 


Such a recommendation by a committee nominated by a democratic government is unheard of in the histories of modern nations.  Srikrishna Committee members become the modern-day Goebbels prescribing the methods and formulae to control the media to influence public opinion.  Instead of meting out justice to people of Telanganas who complain they are dominated by Seemandhra elite, the committee makes a recommendation to use the dominant position of the Seemandhras to continue the suppression of Telanganas. 

The Judge in his verdict appropriately says that it is “a matter of deep concern as to how a sacrosanct fundamental right was reduced into a business activity and converted as tool to distort public opinion...” 

The secret note becomes even more bewildering when it recommends steps on ‘political management’.  The Committee recommends “placement of representatives of Telangana in key positions” such as CM or Dy.CM. Alas! The Committee becomes a strategy arm for the ruling party giving guidance on political decisions related to party affairs.  

Justice L Narasimha Reddy stresses on the apolitical nature required of such committees.  The Government of India “has constituted a committee comprising of two jurists, two social scientists, and an ex-bureaucrat, to study the situation and submit report covering legal and social dimensions of the issue.  None of them were supposed to have any political leanings, or for that matter, political tendencies.”

The Judge rejects the opinion of the Home Ministry that this note pertains to either ‘Security of State’ or ‘Sensitivity’.  He believes that this note is kept ‘secret’ only because “such ideas do not occur to jurists and social scientists and they are not said in public”. 

The Committee in its secret report writes: “Action also needs to be initiated for softening the TRS to the extent possible…”  Such a move by a democratic nation to ‘soften’ the elected leaders to abandon the mandate and wishes of the people is unthinkable and downright despicable. 

The secret note believes that the agitation can be tackled “if Congress Leaders do not give an impression indicating any covert / overt support to it.”  It recommends that “the Congress MPs / MLAs need to be taken into confidence and asked not to lend any form of support to the agitation.  The Congress High Command must sensitize its own MPs and MLAs and educate them about the wisdom for arriving at an acceptable and workable solution.”

The AP High Court Judge in his observation writes: “The above analysis would find even political scientists and sociologists in wilderness, and persuade them to add new chapters to political sciences and public administration… It does not even reflect political expediency.  At the most it manifests political despondency.”

In another section, the Committee writes: “Since the BJP has a strong presence, it may try to consolidate in Telangana area and further extend its base.  AIMIM may try to expand in Rayalaseema regions resulting in birth of militant communalism in certain pockets”.  One can ask, since when did the committees formed by the Government of India become political tools of the ruling parties? 

The Committee uses the bogey of Maoist violence in the publicized report to deny Telangana people a separate statehood, and at the same time it predicts Maoist violence if a separate Telangana is not formed.  It writes in the secret note: “In the event of the demand of a separate Telangana state not being realized, some of the militant elements which have been in the forefront of the agitations may go underground to revive the Maoist movement in certain pockets of Telangana which, however, could possibly be tackled within a small timeframe with firm political will and strong administrative action”.  The Committee feels that a surge in Maoist violence can be controlled in the case of Telangana not being formed, but for some inexplicable reason the same surge is used as a reason against formation of Telangana.  Such duplicitous stand on a contentious issue clearly spells out the actual intention of the Committee – to deny Telangana people their statehood no matter what, even if it means one has to resort to sophistry and clever talk.

While admitting that “most of the major educational infrastructure in the Telangana region has historically been owned by the Seemandhra people”, the report does not suggest measures to combat or counter such monopoly. Instead it tries to protect that monopoly of Seemandhras by negating the formation of Telangana. 

In their eagerness to prove that Telangana was not backward the Committee wrote in the publicized report, that in 2007, “Telangana is ahead of the other two regions in terms of the youth literacy rates, showing the highest percentage increase over the period.” And that the educated workforce in Telangana is “slightly more than in coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema”.  But the secret note exposes their duplicitous stand when they cite lack of “availability of local persons who can be productively engaged by the industry/business-houses.”  The committee comes out in the open saying that “the dominant industries [in Telangana] are thermal power stations, pharmaceuticals etc., which are mostly managed by Seemandhra people”.  The Committee believes that Seemandhras completely dominate and monopolize the educational and industry infrastructure in Telangana.  Isn’t this one of one of the strongest grievances of Telangana people in their fight for statehood?

The committee knew how dangerous, vicious and malignant their report is.  Therefore they take care to once again ‘manage’ the outfall by prescribing repressive steps.  In the section titled ‘full preparedness’, the committee recommends pre-emptive arrests of innocent people based on suspicion and assumptions.  It writes “the trouble creators in the three regions must be identified in advance and suitable action plan prepared.”  It also prescribes Machiavellian tactics of delay, confusion and obfuscation.  It suggests that “on receipt of the Committee’s Report by the Government, a general message should be conveyed amongst the people of the State that Centre will be open for detailed discussions on the recommendations / options of the Report with the concerned leaders / stakeholders.”

The Committee also prescribes methods to curb and suppress the people’s movement in Telangana.  It writes in the secret note: “there is a high possibility of agitational backlash… an appropriate plan of deployment grid of police force (both Central and State) with full technical support needs to be immediately drawn up.” The note recommends to ‘preempt’ the agitations by ‘monitoring’ activities using ‘real time intelligence’.  The author of the secret note writes that they discussed with DGP the “kind of equipment and weaponry to be used” against the Telangana protestors such as “not to cause fatal injuries, while at the same time effective enough to bring the agitationists quickly under control.”

To this the Judge L Narasimha Reddy writes: “If the committee has suggested use of arsenal of lesser degree, it is not because there is any pity or sympathy towards the agitators.  Obviously, it is to avoid the wrath of the human rights agencies.” 

The secret note of Chapter 8 reveals that the Committee was already in touch with the Home Ministry as early as September 2010 to make its recommendations on how to control and suppress Telangana Movement.  The actions of the central and state governments of the recent past clearly indicate that the steps recommended in the secret note are already being implemented.  Immediately after the report was released to the public the Home Ministry called upon the legislators of the state repeatedly to casually discuss and delay the process.  Already, the political party bosses have come out strongly against the agitating Telangana legislators.  During one of the recent peaceful marches organized by Telangana people, the police swooped down to pre-emptively arrest 100,000 innocent people in the region.   And it is now a common knowledge that security officials are tapping phone and communication lines of many Telangana activists. 

The Judge notes: “The police, which is not inclined or able to nab persons who committed day-light murder in the middle of the city has proved its efficiency in booking cases against hundreds of students even with smallest provocation.” Based on recommendations from the report, Telangana is now being ruthlessly suppressed by the rich and elite of Seemandhra in cahoots with the Home Ministry of India. 

Nowhere in the report or the secret note do we see a reference to people’s movements, their grievances or their desires.  Srikrishna Committee does not think that the aspiration of the people is a legitimate reason for carving out States in this country.  Instead the report promotes aristocracy.  The carving of States is decided by the economic benefits of the privileged and the majority even if it means the unprivileged and the minority continues to suffer thereby legitimizing the tyranny of the majority.  It becomes evident that the actual purpose of the secret note is to suppress the aspirations of 35 million Telangana people so as to protect the financial interests of Seemandhra’s rich and elite.

Will India be guided by the principles of protecting the immigrant elite and their privileges against the cost of deprivation and suppression of masses that are native to that region? If it does not make economic sense to the ruling elite then will those movements be suppressed? Will we commission committees to formulate methods on how to suppress and control such people’s movements? 

Srikrishna Committee Report prescribes undemocratic and autocratic methods to curb a genuine people’s movements through manipulation of media, by coercing and coaxing elected representatives to abandon people’s wishes, encourages the police to tap the communication lines of citizens of India, and recommends making pre-emptive arrests to curb a democratic aspiration.  It is time for India to restore its democratic credentials by rejecting this report, not in parts, but completely, categorically and overwhelmingly so that such unconstitutional guidelines do not become a yardstick in addressing people’s aspirations in India ever again. 

Link to the full text version of the verdict:
http://hc.ap.nic.in/orders/wp_1569_2011.html

42 comments:

  1. India's democracy ratings are in the same league as that of Indonesia or Phillphines, We are a Kleptocracy and No Strong Democratic institutions exist today, they were all Subverted or Destroyed a long time ago, such a govt wont respond to Peaceful and "Genuine" and "peaceful" protest it will only respond to Violence.

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  2. Quote:
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    In their eagerness to prove that Telangana was not backward the Committee wrote in the publicized report, that in 2007, “Telangana is ahead of the other two regions in terms of the youth literacy rates, showing the highest percentage increase over the period.” And that the educated workforce in Telangana is “slightly more than in coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema”. But the secret note exposes their duplicitous stand when they cite lack of “availability of local persons who can be productively engaged by the industry/business-houses.” "

    Good catch Sujay, SKC got two tongues after rubbing there cheeks with SA cheeks. I am sure these gang of five thieves already opened Swiss accounts.

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  3. The Committee uses the bogey of Maoist violence in the publicized report to deny Telangana people a separate statehood, and at the same time it predicts Maoist violence if a separate Telangana is not formed.

    What the committee meant was that if Telangana is formed the state will be sympathetic to the Maoists and that will be national problem.

    And if Telangana is not formed there will be a spurt by a few disgruntled elements who can be managed.

    The Telangana movement is a Maoist movement in disguise and the Maoists see it as the first state that will be sympathetic and soft to them. The committee and the rest of the nation recognize it.

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  4. What the committee meant was that if Telangana is formed the state will be sympathetic to the Maoists and that will be national problem.

    If the 'suspicion, 'assumption', or 'prejudice' are valid reasons to thwart a state formation, then why were Chattisgarh, Nagaland, Mizoram formed?

    Then we should go back in the past and negate the formation of India because British administration had 'credible' fears that India will become a Communist country.

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  5. @AnonIdiot

    <<<< if Telangana is formed the state will be sympathetic to the Maoists


    By state do You mean "telangana people" or the Telangana state government representing the TG people, So Telangana people are a Bunch of Naxal sympthasiers and should be treated as a National "problem" is that It?

    If so Andhra settlers are "parasites" and a "Pest problem" for telangana people and we will Start "Pest-control" measures.

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  6. Will India be guided by the principles of protecting the immigrant elite and their privileges against the cost of deprivation and suppression of masses that are native to that region?

    You do not seem to realise that democracy is not mobocracy.

    The constitution and the law worldwide is there to protect the minority from the majority. You seem to forget that if one man had the power against 99 to hurt them then he/she is equally justified as are the 99. So the arrest of people that you keep moaning about was ethically right.

    And as for your other comment, it is not assumption or a doubt there are evidences that indicate that Telangana if formed will be sympathetic and soft to Maoism.

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  7. Hey Sujai,

    Can you post a link for the entire judgement and chapter 8 at the end of the article?

    Also highlight in bold sections from chapter 8. That will help first time visitors of this blog.

    Members of SKC should be tried for crime against humanity. They are the real brain. The police is only muscles.

    I am scared, really scared about future of Indian democracy.

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  8. Afghanisthans Populations is less than 30 million , Still they are being Pain in the Ass for the worlds only Super power, Telanganas population is 40 million and we dont face a Super power but rather a Thuggish Andhra govt, LETS GIVE THEM HELL.

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  9. @UnitedIndian
    <<<I am scared, really scared about future of Indian democracy.


    Were you sleeping all these days, Indian Democracy was killed the Day the Indian central govt "Managed" the Kashmiri State elections. What we have now is a Democracy only for Show.

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  10. చెక్కు చెదరని మీ చెప్పులేసిన చరిత్ర!
    నాడు ‘దేశమంటే మట్టికాదోయ్ దేశమంటే మనుషులోయ్’ అన్నాడొక మహానుభావుడు. కాని నేడు ‘రాష్ట్రమంటే రాతిబొమ్మలేనోయ్ రాలిపోయే ప్రాణులు కాదోయ్!’ అని అంటున్నారు వన్నెతగ్గని కుహనా ప్రజాస్వామిక, సాంస్కృతిక-సాహిత్య దురంధరులు.

    కూలిన విగ్రహాల గురించి నిరసనలు, నివాళులు, లెంపలేసుకోవడం మరియు పాలాభిషేకాలు చేసి కన్నీరు పెట్టుకోవడం కడు శోచనీయం. వారి దూషణలు మిక్కిలి గర్హనీయం. ఐదున్నర దశాబ్దాల దోపిడి, ఆరాచక మరియు నియంతృత్వపు వలసవాద పాలన నుండి విముక్తికై పోరాడుతూ, తమ ప్రాణాలనే ఫణంగా పెట్టి మంటల్లో కాలి బూడిదవుతున్న ఆ త్యాగమూర్తుల కంటే తమది కాని అన్య మూర్తుల ప్రాముఖ్యత సమయానికందిరాని ఆలోచన.

    పాలకుల తుపాకుల నుండి వర్షించే తూటాలు, ఇనుప బూట్ల తొక్కుల్లు మరియు లాఠీల విలయతాండవంతో నెత్తురోడి నేల రాలిన ఆ భావి కుసుమాల గురించి ఒక్క కన్నీటి చుక్క రాల్చి సానుభూతి తెలిపే, మానవత్వం మూర్తిభవించిన సాటి తెలుగువారలె లేకపోయిరి కదా!

    అణచివేతలతో, ఆధిపత్యపు ఆగడాలతో దెబ్బ తిన్న జీవుల కళ్ళలోంచి నీళ్ళకు బదులు నిప్పులు, హృదయంలోంచి ప్రేమకు బదులు ద్వేషం పుడుతుందనే నగ్న సత్యం విజ్ఞులకు తెలియంది కాదు. దాని పర్యవసానమే ట్యాంక్ బండ్ ఘటనలు.

    ఇది గ్రహించక పుండు మీద కారం జల్లినట్లు ‘అమానవీయమని, తెలుగు వారు తలదించు కోవాలని, దున్న పోతులూ సిగ్గు పడతాయని, చరిత్ర క్షమించదని, దోషులను ఉరి తీయాలని’ ఎన్నెన్నో సూక్తులు వినిపించారు కుహనా సంగీత-సాహిత్య-సాంస్కృతిక సామ్రాట్లు.

    మరి తెలుగు వారి ఆత్మగౌరవాన్ని విశ్వ వ్యాప్తంగా చాటి చెప్పి అందుకు ప్రతీకగా నిలిచిన మహానుభావుడు కీ.శే. నందమూరి తారక రామారావు మీద చెప్పులు విసిరి అవమానం చేసిననాడు ఈ తెలుగు జాతి ఎక్కడ విశ్రాంతి తీసుకుందో?

    ఆ దోషులను శిక్షించక పోగా నిసిగ్గుగా ఓట్లు వేసి రాజ్యాధికారాన్ని అప్పగించిన ఘనత మీకే చెల్లింది కాబోలు. చివరకు ఏ ఆదరణకు నోచుకోక ఆ మహనీయుడు కృశించి దిక్కులేని చావు చచ్చిన మాట వాస్తవం కాదా?

    ఇక మరో తెలుగు ముద్దు బిడ్డ కీ.శే. పి.వి. నరసింహారావు గారి మీద కర్నూల్ లో చెప్పులు విసిరి తమ తెలుగు సంస్కృతీ అభిమానాన్ని దశ దిశల చాటిన ఆ ఘనత మీకే సొంతం. అట్టి కార్యక్రమ వ్యూహకర్తలకు శాపనార్థాలు, శిక్షలు ఉండకపోగా మంత్రులు-ముఖ్యమంత్రులను చేసి ఆనందపడిన చరిత్ర మీకు మాత్రమే వున్నది.

    ఇంతగా గొంతు చించుకుని, గుండెలు బాదుకునేవారు ఈ మధ్య బరంపురంలో జరిగిన తెలుగు మహాసభలో తెలంగాణ కవి నందిని సిద్దా రెడ్డి మీద భౌతిక దాడి జరిగినప్పుడు ఎందుకు ఖండించలేదు? ప్రసార సాధనాలు ఎందుకు వెలుగులోకి తీసుకురాలేదు?. అతను సిమాంధ్ర రాతిబొమ్మ పాటి విలువ చేయరు కాబోలు.

    ఇగ త్రివర్ణ పతాక సృష్టి కర్త పింగళి వెంకయ్య చరిత్ర తిరగవేస్తే మరీ దుర్భరం. ఆ దేశభక్తుడి ఆర్ధిక పరిస్థితి దిగజారిపోయి ఎలాంటి ఆదరణకు నోచుకోకుండా కడు పేదరికంతో కనుమూశాడు. అప్పుడు ఏలిన వారికిగాని, అనామకులను, అవినీతిపరులను ఆదుకుని సత్కరించే తెలుగు సంస్థలు గాని, సంఘాన్ని ఉద్దరించే ఆపన్న హస్తాలు ఎక్కడికి అదృశ్యం ఆయ్యాయో తెలియదు. మరో దారుణం ఏమిటంటే పింగళి వెంకయ్య కుమారుడు పింగళి దశరథరాం ఎందుకు చంపబడ్డాడు? ఎవరు చంపారు? దోషులు ఎలా మాయమయ్యిండ్రు? దీనిపైన ఈ తెలుగు జాతి గళం విప్పలేదెందుకు? ధర్నాలు, పోరాటాలు చెయ్యలేదేందుకు?

    పదిరికుప్పం, కారంచేడు మరియు చుండూరు హత్యలు గుర్రం జాషువా గౌరవార్థం జరిగినవేనా? ఈ కుహనా ప్రజాస్వామిక వాదులు, సాహితీ వేత్తలు తమ నిసిగ్గు ద్వంద ప్రమాణాలు ఇక నైనా మానడం మంచిది. అంతెందుకు ఈ మధ్య రోశయ్య ముఖ్యమంత్రిగా పదవి చేపట్టగానే సీమాంధ్రలో అమరజీవి పొట్టి శ్రీరాములు విగ్రహాలు ఎన్ని ద్వంసం అయ్యాయో చెప్పక్కర్లేదు.

    మరి ఆ రోజు పెకిలిన గొంతులెన్ని? ఖండించిన ప్రజాసంఘాలెన్ని? ప్రశ్నించిన మానవతావాదులేరి?.

    ఆగడం చేస్తే జగడం ఆగదు సరికదా ఇంకా ఉదృతం అవుతుంది. పది సంవత్సరాల పసి బాలుడి నుండి పండు ముదుసలికి తప్పని బైండోవర్లు, కాలికి చెప్పులు లేకుండా రచ్చబండకు రమ్మనడం, లేదంటే ఊర్ల దిగ్బంధనం, ఇండ్లు, బండ్లు, గొడ్డు గోదను తగులబెట్టడం…

    ఇదేనా ప్రజాస్వామ్యం?

    ఇదేనా సోదరభావం?

    చావడానికి యావత్ తెలంగాణ సిద్దం అయ్యింది గాని భాష పేరుతో బానిసత్వానికి, కులంపేరుతో కుటిల రాజకీయానికి ఏ మాత్రం సహకరించడానికి సంసిద్దులుగాలేరనే నగ్న సత్యాన్ని వలస పాలకులు గుర్తుంచుకోవాలి. లేదంటే ప్రజల కోపాగ్నికి ఆహుతి గాక తప్పదు.

    నియంతల చరిత్రనుండి నిజాలు తెలుసుకుని హుందాగా నిష్క్రమించడం ఉత్తముల లక్షణం.

    “భక్తుడి కోపానికి భగవంతుడికే భంగపాటు తప్పలేదన్న సత్యం జగత్వ్యాపితం”.

    By: అనిల్ మద్దిరాల

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  11. "If the 'suspicion, 'assumption', or 'prejudice' are valid reasons to thwart a state formation, then why were Chattisgarh, Nagaland, Mizoram formed"
    Same reason why Gorkhaland was not formed.They have being waging a battle since 80s.

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  12. Sujai posts comments on chapter 8 based on the version released by the judge. Unless govt releases it, it has no credibility. Judge has hijacked and stepped on the powers of executive branch. Perhaps, everything is ok for Sujai if it lends to his bias. The judge has shown enthusiasm and bias towards Telangana by coming up with his version which are different from what the SKC said. Being a person from Telangana, he can't judge the issue.. it has to be someone outside the state. Supreme court will decide the case and HC judge has no authority to 'selectively' release the contents.

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  13. Aravind:

    HC judge has no authority to 'selectively' release the contents.

    Well, the 'some' of the contents are released now. To be able to prove that judge has 'selectively' chosen the 'biased' statements, Home Ministry would have to release the entire Chapter 8 - that has been the demand of Telangana activists. For some reason Samaikyandhra activists are quite comfortable with retaining it as a 'secret' document. May be, they fear that it will expose their culpability in 'influencing' the SKC report.

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  14. Aravind:

    Being a person from Telangana, he can't judge the issue

    So why are Andhra judges sitting in cases dealing with Telangana issues?

    If the bias is so clearly visible, don't you think it actually justifies our stand for seeking separation?

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  15. Under the title, ‘media management’, the secret note starts off observing that the electronic channels and newspapers could be used for “molding the public opinion”.
    Sujai,

    I know it is useless to argue but here I reproduce exact text from judgement.

    [Andhra Pradesh has got about 13 Electronic Channels and 5 major local Newspapers which are in the forefront of molding the public opinion. Except for two Channels (Raj News & hmtv), the rest of them are supporters of a united Andhra Pradesh. The equity holders of the channels except the above two and the entire Print Media are with the Seemandhra people. The main editors/resident and sub-editors, the Film world etc. are dominated by Seemandhra people. A coordinated action on their part has the potential of shaping the perception of the common man. However, the beat journalists in the respective regions are locals and are likely to capture only those events/news which reflect the regional sentiments.]

    Did the committee really recommend or hint the government to use this media for molding the public opinion?
    Rather it is agreeing with T-vaadis allegations that SA controlled media not giving 'due' coverage to T movement.

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  16. Can you post a link for the entire judgement and chapter 8 at the end of the article?

    Cool man!
    You highlight another important pattern of T movement.
    'Adigo puli ante idigo toka' anadam.

    The learned Judge only quoted (convenient) extractions from Chapter 8. The chapter 8 itself is not available.
    But all our great authors are promoting their 'visions'.
    'kaalidasu kavitavam konta nee paityam konta.

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  17. The people in India, AP( Telangana and Andhra) should clearly see how the game is being rigged by selected few. The commission is not asking the Govt. to any thing new. The media management by Govt. using funds is going on for the last 10-15 years. The UPA founded that they can release hundreds of crores as advertisements to media houses who will suppress the truth and play the game Govt. wants. This was going on on smaller scale when Hegde and other CMs used to gift some land to journalists to keep them from criticizing. But now, with advent of booming economy, the Govt. is propping up failing media houses (NDTV got 500 crores in unsecured loans from ICICI; CNN/IBN, NDTV and some magazines such as Tehelka received crores adn crores for advertising by UPA) to cover up scams and support them. This is a big threat to democracy. It is not good for any one in India; be it AP or Telangana or Andhra or TN. The SKC is simply asking the Govt. to do what it is doing to keep itself in power to derail Telangana agitation.

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  18. Aravind:

    Sujai posts comments on chapter 8 based on the version released by the judge. Unless govt releases it, it has no credibility.

    Are you serious? You are suggesting that the order of a high court does not have credibility?! Thankfully, that is not how it works. If you are willing, I'd be happy to suggest some books for you to read. You may consider reading up prior to writing such stuff. And just out of curiosity, do you think the Srikrishna Committee 'report' is credible?

    Judge has hijacked and stepped on the powers of executive branch.

    Really, now. How, exactly? Hijacked the powers of the executive- has he enacted a legislation? I really want to know and look forward to your response. But may I request you to read up before you revert?

    Perhaps, everything is ok for Sujai if it lends to his bias.

    This does happen to be Sujai's blog! And 'bias'? And having an opinion different from yours on the Telangana issue is a bias?

    The judge has shown enthusiasm and bias towards Telangana by coming up with his version which are different from what the SKC said.

    Well, he does seem to have enthusiasm- which is a good thing! The judge has not come out with his 'version' on anything. The judged has quoted from the eight chapter of the badly drafted state sponsored political strategy consultation note-popularly known as the Srikrishna Committee Report on Telangana- and gave his views on the extracted paragraphs. That is NOT giving his 'version'. Again please read-this time, the order.

    Being a person from Telangana, he can't judge the issue.. it has to be someone outside the state.

    Don't be ridiculous. Yes, he can. The respondent i.e. the Government of India did not think it was an issue or it would have brought it up and the matter would not be heard by him.

    Supreme court will decide the case and HC judge has no authority to 'selectively' release the contents.

    Has the respondent appealed to the Supreme Court? It would be interesting to know what it has to say. No authority to selectively release the content? I think the judge would know the limits of his authority more than you or me. So, tough luck that you don't like the order- that is, if you have read it.

    Aravind, apologies if I am being harsh-you could just be an excited school kid!

    Separately, I am astonished that the popular national television channels ignored this order. I haven't read or seen a single news report (or have I missed them?) where the media has condemned the suggestion of managing the media. May be its given, but even a few fake indignant reports on media management from the media would have been heartening for those of us in denial.

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  19. The learned Judge only quoted (convenient) extractions from Chapter 8.

    Since the judge quoted 'conveniently' some extractions from Chapter 8, why don't the Seemandhra activists push for revealing the complete Chapter?

    Why do they rather want to oppose such a move and keep the chapter 'secret'?

    Is it because this chapter will expose how Seemandhras 'doctored' SKC report?

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  20. what exactly did the judge deliver finally. Is the govt compelled to disclose chapter 8. can the govt say that it considers it unfeasible to make the note public?

    Two weeks are over.

    109. The writ petition is accordingly allowed, as prayed for. ......... The respondent shall consider the feasibility of
    making the note on Chapter-VIII, public, within two weeks.

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  21. Since the judge quoted 'conveniently' some extractions from Chapter 8, why don't the Seemandhra activists push for revealing the complete Chapter?
    In case you are not aware. Many senior and younger politicians from SA also said that Chapter - 8 must be made public.

    This is typical of you T-vaadis. Keep questioning something 'not done'. Why should they push for it? Your leader did that and got right order from court.

    Why do they rather want to oppose such a move and keep the chapter 'secret'?
    Why do you want to consider one or two odd fellows like Lagadapti as representatives of 'all'. There are hardly any SA leaders who opposed publishing the chapter 8.

    Is it because this chapter will expose how Seemandhras 'doctored' SKC report?
    Why do you comment on a point that is not even concluded? You made assumption that SA activists oppose publishing chapter-8. Even before your assumption validated, you make another comment.

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  22. what exactly did the judge deliver finally. Is the govt compelled to disclose chapter 8. can the govt say that it considers it unfeasible to make the note public?

    This judge knows very well that GOI will not publish that chapter. So he chose to publish some parts to rake up discussion.
    Funny part here is SA media and people have to carry the blame until entire report is published and understood.
    That is what the learned judge wants.

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  23. Many senior and younger politicians from SA also said that Chapter - 8 must be made public.

    May be the newspapers that I get have a filter. I didn't find news items where Samaikhyandhras asked for Chapter 8 to be made public. The news items that I read said the contrary.

    Can you please give links to those news items where Samaikhyandhras ask for Chapter 8 to be revealed?

    Thanks,

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  24. Quote:
    "
    May be the newspapers that I get have a filter. "

    Me too Sujai. Looks like I am in the Matrix world, and SA is in real world? thats why what I see is different from SA sees. Few other examples which do not match..

    * They say they respect grate peoples statues, in our world they destroyed few.
    * They say they want Telugu Unity that there life, in our world they agitated for seperation.
    * They say they are peaceful people, in our world they started the first violent movement in Independent India and lead few violent movements which brought the central govt to there knees.
    * They say we are suffering with naxal problem, in our world we both regions has same number of govt. identified naxal impacted districts.
    * They say we are drunkers, in our world it is SA districts bring more liquor income to govt.

    Like this there are many which dont match between our reality and there reality.

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  25. May be the newspapers that I get have a filter. I didn't find news items where Samaikhyandhras asked for Chapter 8 to be made public. The news items that I read said the contrary.
    No surprise that you write with so many assumptions.

    How much of TV shows you followed on that day? Did you watch discussions on iNews, HM TV, Maha TV?

    Again typical of you T-vaadis. Thing that you do not see or cannot see does not exists.

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  26. May be the newspapers that I get have a filter. I didn't find news items where Samaikhyandhras asked for Chapter 8 to be made public.

    It is universal truth you dont read anything which is against your thinking or Telangana formation. Same way you ignored reading such news.

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  27. Why do they rather want to oppose such a move and keep the chapter 'secret'?
    You simply made an assumption that they are opposing. But when somebody says no they are not opposing you want proof.

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  28. Seemandhra 1:
    You simply made an assumption that they are opposing. But when somebody says no they are not opposing you want proof.

    Seemandhra 2:
    It is universal truth you dont read anything which is against your thinking or Telangana formation. Same way you ignored reading such news.

    Seemandhra 3:
    Again typical of you T-vaadis. Thing that you do not see or cannot see does not exists.

    But none of you actually provide a link.

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  29. But none of you actually provide a link.

    This is the fun with your arguments.

    You ignored the question on discussion on TV channels. SA leaders said Chapter 8 should be published bu t took objections to Judge's remarks.
    You want names? Paladugu Venkat rao and Varla Ramayya on HM TV.
    Also there was one lady from Seema (I do not remember name).

    Can you show proof for any SA leader opposing publishing this chapter? Of course other than Lagadapati. :-)

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  30. BTW, sujai internet is not the only source of information for everything.

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  31. SA leaders said Chapter 8 should be published bu t took objections to Judge's remarks.
    You want names? Paladugu Venkat rao and Varla Ramayya on HM TV.
    Also there was one lady from Seema (I do not remember name).


    So, that's your proof?

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  32. So, that's your proof?

    Do you want SA leaders organize a Mahagarjana to demand publishing chapter-8?

    BTW, who are the SA leaders opposing publishing chapter 8?
    And your proof?

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  33. Do you want SA leaders organize a Mahagarjana to demand publishing chapter-8?

    No. Only a link to a news item or a link to a youtube would help.

    You are being a idiot on this blog. I have very little patience to put up with idiots.

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  34. [Again typical of you T-vaadis. Thing that you do not see or cannot see does not exists. ]

    Typical Anti-T vadis(in disguise of Samakyavadis), they talk much, do less, and never show proofs for there arguments. If T-vadis show any proofs, they simply reject is saying that proofs made in Prof, JayaShankar's factory.

    Typical mentality of Anti-T vadis, they want to stay together with home they hate neck deep.

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  35. No. Only a link to a news item or a link to a youtube would help.

    First you asked for proof. When I quoted TV discussions, you are not accepting.
    Do you mean that info on internet only is the real proof?

    BTW, you have not yet shown "proof" for the SA leaders opposing this.

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  36. When I quoted TV discussions, you are not accepting.

    My grandmother sees ghosts. But that is not good enough 'proof' for existence of ghosts.

    Sometimes some observations are considered 'obvious' and hence do not require proof. Some observations are contested, and that's when you need to provide a direct or indirect proof. If it is direct proof, it make it easy. Sometimes indirect proofs also helps provided the other party recognizes it as reasonable. In absence of proofs, contentious issues will not be resolved.

    Though we knew that Andhras ALSO demolished statues, we did not raise that till we got enough evidence. So, please go ahead and dig up your sources and then paste the link.

    Till then please do not waste my time.

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  37. Till then please do not waste my time

    You are degrading yourself and your movement too.

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  38. Till then please do not waste my time.

    Why not admit you can not answer simple questions.

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  39. You are degrading yourself and your movement too.

    No, he is not.

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  41. [First you asked for proof. When I quoted TV discussions, you are not accepting.]

    [BTW, you have not yet shown "proof" for the SA leaders opposing this. ]

    Here is my proof.

    On ABN channel discussion, a SA leaders (I dont remember the names) Mar 08, apposing the releasing chapter8 saying that was hidden for everyones good and national security. The other leaders at that time Veerasiva, Umamaheswar and Samual(?) supported that argument.

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  42. [please go ahead and dig up your sources and then paste the link. ]

    If Anti T-vadis can't show proofs, it does mean SA leaders are against the releasing Chapter8. Because they say they demanded for release but cant show the proof, so they are faking about their demand to release chapter8

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