AP Government headed by a Christian Chief Minister and a Christian Governor thought it was an act of good faith when it announced a package to sponsor Christians to visit their
I am not even sure if most Christians of India consider
So, the Christians and Muslims of India get to go visit their
Is visiting
Hey, my religion says that my holy land is on the Moon. Can the Indian government sponsor my trip to Moon?
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Hey, my religion says that my holy land is on the Moon. Can the Indian government sponsor my trip to Moon?
ReplyDeleteIf you are ready to go to the moon, I am ready to sponsor it :)
scientologist, true, but as long as there's no internet access on the moon. ;)
ReplyDeleteHa Ha Ha,
ReplyDeleteWhat can you expect from policticans from INDIA, they are the most irrational people to be born on earth.
Sujai,
ReplyDeleteAs per Indian political dictionary, opposing Hindu faith, questioning subsidies and concessions to Hindus are secular and opposing other faiths and questioning of subsidies to other religions, asking for uniform treatment to all religions, asking for uniform civil code are communal. I considered you as a secular blogger. What happened to you? Why are you becoming communal blogger? You will lose the die hard secular commenters like Vinod.
@Abhi...
ReplyDeleteNice try with the sarcasm.
Maybe Sujai goes by something called 'logic' and 'reason'.
Yes, it's true that the Indian Government, unfortunately, does not use those qualities.
You can debunk your prejudice and bias next time you read his blogs.
Locutus83
ReplyDeleteI agree there is a logic,reasoning in Sujai blogs in many cases. You can observe following pattern in his blogs which reflected trend of Indian secular politician. (Of course there is a lot of change in recent blogs)
1) Oppose Hindu faith vehemently. Analyse it scientifically E.g Vedic science, Ramsetu. Keep mum on Noah's ark, 6 day creation, Great Flood.
2) Judge Hindu culture as reason for caste problems and justify Quran is nothing to do with Jihad.
3) Ask all soft questions about reservations. Do not touch hard questions like 1) Is there any logic in any government fixing reservation percentages 2) Do we have system to rollback once objectives are achieved 3) Does current reservation system benefit creamy layer of backwards or real backwards etc.
I agree that I may be having my own prejudices which I will try to overcome as suggested by you.
Abhi
ReplyDeleteIt will help if you can focus and limit yourself on the subject of each article than try to attempt a ameteurish pschoanalysis of Sujai or his commentators.
~ Vinod
Try as hard as I may, I can't find a principled reason why the govt needs to be involved in anyway in the private religious duties of any of its communities.
ReplyDelete~ Vinod
Not fair, not fair. Hey, atheists too need to get subsidies of this sort!(A secular country might as well reward a nonbeliever for his 'beliefs')
ReplyDelete. It requires a great amount of energy to challenge twenty years of religious indoctrination with logical reasoning. We should probably choose Venice as our Holy Land.:-)
Abhi:
ReplyDeleteI considered you as a secular blogger. What happened to you?
I did not take it a mandate to become a certain kind of blogger. If you think I am a 'secular' blogger, then you are entitled to your opinion. As I said in my article 'Where do I stand?', if people think I am Santa Claus, I will not change their opinion.
I strive for a version of secularism where state and religion are separated - at the risk of repeating myself - I do not support the Indian definition which says 'Equal importance to all religions' and instead support the original definition which says 'No importance to any religion'.
Hope that makes sense.
Abhi:
ReplyDeleteLet me address your concerns [It will be the last time. I will have to remember not to entertain similar concerns from you in future]
1) Oppose Hindu faith vehemently. Analyse it scientifically E.g Vedic science, Ramsetu. Keep mum on Noah's ark, 6 day creation, Great Flood.
Ram Setu and Vedic Science are contemporary events which are affecting India and its people. Noah’s Ark, 6 day creation, Great Flood are mythologies. If people start citing 6 day creation to stop teaching Modern Science in India, I would be equally upset and would blog about it.
2) Judge Hindu culture as reason for caste problems and justify Quran is nothing to do with Jihad.
I don’t like to talk about books, founders and their character to explain why those religious people behave the way they behave. I don’t like to talk about Koran or Gita to explain contemporary events. As far as I am concerned they are books, like Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, War and Peace, etc. I never cited Gita as the source of the problems emanating from Hinduism.
3) Ask all soft questions about reservations. Do not touch hard questions like 1) Is there any logic in any government fixing reservation percentages 2) Do we have system to rollback once objectives are achieved 3) Does current reservation system benefit creamy layer of backwards or real backwards etc.
I support reservations-based-on-caste. What number it is – will be decided by people who have some insights into it. I don’t profess to be an expert on demographics.
However, let me give quick answers. The reservations for SC/ST are based on their share of population in the country. For OBCs, there is no census data available (country-wide). The last data comes from 1931 census. People have different opinions on what this percentage is (of OBCs) – anywhere from 30% to 60% depending how OBC is defined and who you talk to.
I guess the figure of 27% for OBC in the recent discussions comes from (50%-22.5%). 50% as a cap on reservations coming from a Supreme Court ruling.
[Nothing scientific about it, but is still less than the worst estimates for OBC population].
We should have a system to rollback once objective are achieved. I don’t think the objectives are achieved (except some regions like Tamil Nadu).
Finally something that I agree with you totally!!
ReplyDeleteHey, my religion says that my holy land is on the Moon. Can the Indian government sponsor my trip to Moon?
ReplyDeleteActually Suaji, if you belong to a minority religious group and can promise votes, I'm sure that little matter of trip to the moon for religious purposes can be taken care of. That's how politics has worked in India. Good post.
-chirkut
Chirkut has hit the bulls-eye.
ReplyDeleteIts plain nonsense!! There are nothing called holy places for the Christians & its not mandatory for the Christians to visit Israel,Rome or Syria like the muslims..For us Indian christians, India is our holy land.I've heard of Christians visiting Rome but never ever have I heard of anyone visiting Israel.These are just cheap political gimmicks which are unwarranted in a secular country and I as a Christian strongly condemn it!!
ReplyDeleteLooks like the Jews got control of your government too. Won't be long and they will be shipping more than just your christians to Israel, it will be your money and everything else.
ReplyDeleteBeing from the US, we had to learn the hard way. Now 1% of the population controls the other 99%.