Thursday, September 16, 2010

Telangana 62: Shall we become violent?

The youth in Telangana are frustrated.  They are frustrated because they have been protesting and agitating for nearly ten months now, but there is no sign of Telangana or of a positive indication that Telangana will be formed.  Many doubts remain.  The detractors from Seemandhra seem to be winning over Telanganas once again.

Our peaceful agitations and protests don’t seem to yield results.  They are seen as a sign of weakness by our detractors.  Andhras taunt us saying Telanganas are not capable of achieving statehood.  One director of a movie provoked Telanganas saying, ‘you cannot even stop my movie from screening, how will you achieve Telangana?’  Recently, some Andhras celebrated when the APPSC examinations were held with the help of armed forces in spite of major opposition from Telanganas.  They rejoiced that Telanganas were crushed while they prevailed.  In such an atmosphere there is a tendency amongst Telangana youth to take the route of violence to achieve faster results.  

So what should we do? 

No matter what, we cannot take the violent path in our current agitation. I understand that the youth is frustrated because the results are not coming. Also, Seemandhra leadership is not helping the situation. They are unnecessarily provoking Telangana people.

Many a times the agitating youth like to take the easy path but thankfully the grass root level leaders in Telangana are still strongly promoting nonviolent methods.  And I am glad that this agitation has not gone the violent route. We may not have a Gandhi leading us, but we are still banking on Gandhian principles. Let’s keep it that way. It’s a healthy way.  We should not get provoked.  We should remain composed all through our struggle, even when we are agitated the most.

Taking up violence is the easy path whereas embracing nonviolence is a tough path.   Though violence may look like an easy path, we don’t want to become violent because of various reasons. Violent movement will go out of control. And once it goes out of control, there is no way political institutions will work in that violent atmosphere. That is not good for Telangana in the long run. Once people get used to getting things done through violence, they will continue to resort to violence to get things done even after creation of new Telangana. Violence is not like a tap that you can turn it off anytime. There are many lessons from our histories. Take a look at Pakistan. They created violent groups to fight India but now those groups are causing havoc in their own country.

Revolutions which have taken violent path have had hard time conforming to democratic institutions. Much touted French Revolution descended into Reign of Terror where revolutionists fought amongst themselves.  It took nearly hundred years to actually achieve a democracy in that country.  Bolshevik Revolution in Russia eventually paved the way for Stalinist autocratic rule where more than 10 million fellow countrymen were killed.   Afghanistan which got liberated from Soviet Union’s influence by the Mujahideen descended into a civil war with fierce infighting between various warlords.  There are very few examples where armed revolutions have successfully transitioned into democratic countries.

On the other hand, nonviolence builds character. Resorting to violence should be seen as a sign of weakness not strength. To remain nonviolent even in the most frustrating situations shows strength of character. It’s good to create such leaders in Telangana. It will be of long term benefit to the region. If Andhras call us weak for our nonviolent methods, let them call us weak.  We know that in our hearts we are strong, so why to prove it to anyone?  We are on a path of justice.  We will prevail.   So, why to hurry up things?

We should be extremely careful of the kind of future we will be creating.  Achieving statehood is only the first step.  What follows after that is equally important.  We should be paying attention to that.  Indian Independence Movement allowed debate on how India is going to be.  Many of our leaders traveled around the world, made friends with many nations, learnt from their successes and their mistakes.   That allowed the new leaders of India to create a secular democracy based in modern values.  If they had not formed the ideas before Independence we could have bungled up.  There was a chance we would have gone onto become a Hindu fundamentalist or a Communist nation. 

We have to live with Andhras

There are many negatives to a violent movement.  Violent methods will aggravate our relationship with Andhras. Keep in mind that they are not our permanent enemies. Understand the difference between anger and hate.  We are currently expressing our anger towards Andhras, but that should not translate to hate.  Currently, we fight them on moral grounds, but once new state of Telangana is formed, we will continue to live with them as neighbors.  I describe the details of what happened in our state to make Andhras understand why we are angry with Andhras, and also to educate fellow Telanganas how to avoid becoming the very masters we are toppling.  But the intention is not to incite hate.

Also, there are lakhs of Andhras living in Telangana. What kind of state will we create if Andhras in Telangana live in fear? It’s better to have Telangana at a later date than create a state where certain people are targeted or persecuted.  Let’s not go overboard with our anger towards Andhras.  Restrain yourselves.

Another important point that should not be missed out is that some detractors would like to see us become violent because that will serve their purpose than ours. For that we have to understand our history.  1969 agitation was a violent one compared to the current agitations. That gave the State a pretext to completely suppress it with ruthless force. Some Andhra leaders opine that if the current agitation becomes violent, the State will be forced to call in the armed forces to quell the agitation.  That’s why you see Seemandhra politicians describing our movement as 'anti-national' in their presentation to SriKrishna Committee.   The hope is that state will intervene, call our movement anti-national, arrest our leaders, arrest all protestors, impose armies and control Telangana once again. 

Also, like in 1970s, if people get disenchanted after such ruthless suppression, there is a chance that people of Telangana will once again take refuge in Naxal movement, which is a good thing for Andhra leadership, because once again they can suppress us for another forty years with armed presence.

Let’s not get into their taunts or provocations. Keep cool. If we don’t get Telangana now, it’s OK, but getting it through violence is far more dangerous for the future of Telangana than getting it later.

54 comments:

  1. Our peaceful agitations and protests don’t seem to yield results

    Really! I wonder who is burning the buses, attaching andhra lectures, pelting stones at leaders etc. Please come out and see the real world Sujay.

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  2. KCR , and the Telangana leaders piss in their pants after MIM comes out with a statement that it is against the celebration of Liberation day. That is the state of affairs in Telangana.Lagadapati comes out with a statement saying its not liberation but a merger,the Telangana parties toe his line. The parties which went on board haughtily with statements saying that liberation day should be celebrated or else they would create a mayhem. See what happened now?
    Where is the Telangana sentiment. What happened to tall talk of celebrations marking the day?

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  3. " And I am glad that this agitation has not gone the violent route."
    Throwing stones at the examination centers with a psychopathic gleam of their faces,attacking the leader of the opposition, and at Telangana legislators in Warangal,attacking Muslims to coax them to join the agitation in Nizamabad, manhandling Chakravarthy ,attacking the shops of 'outsider' people,blocking movies,ransacking high court,throwing projectiles at a sitting judge,slapping the professors in Osmania University,burning buses are acts of non-violence? If you agree they are acts of a new non-violent course of agitation,I'd agree.

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  4. "Non Violence is a "tactic" not "Principle"


    Any rational person would agree that violence is not legitimate unless the consequences of such action are to eliminate a still greater evil. Now there are people of course who go much further and say that one must oppose violence in general, quite apart from any possible consequences. I think that such a person is asserting one of two things. Either he's saying that the resort to violence is illegitimate even if the consequences are to eliminate a greater evil; or he's saying that under no conceivable circumstances will the consequences ever be such as to eliminate a greater evil. The second of these is a factual assumption and it's almost certainly false.

    more at http://www.chomsky.info/debates/19671215.htm

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  5. @ Sujai

    Dude wat im tryin to say is that havin a revolution even if it is a "violent" one better than havin none, french revolution did result in lot of violence(reign of terror) But it contributed lot to French national character, France today is a much better place to live than "Britian" which had no revolution. I think US had like 3 revolutions independance, civilwar(not sure),60's civil rights movement.
    In India Independance did not lead to any "revolution". We were at the "brink" of a socialist revolution in erst while "Hyderabad", The "police action" made by Indian Union effectively reversed all the gains made by the commis in HYd( example: landreforms and distribution). Many see the "standstill agreement" with Nizam as "Vidroham" by the Indian Union, in which nizam ceded powers like "armed forces" to the Indian Union and the Union used it to Crush the "peasant Uprising" in Telengana.
    Can u write more about history of Telengana on the topic whether sep17th is " Vidroham,Vileenam or Vimochanam" it looks bit "cliche" but i think thats all right.

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  6. aditya:

    Dude wat im tryin to say is that havin a revolution even if it is a "violent" one better than havin none,

    Agree.

    And what I am saying is that it is OK to have Telangana delayed a bit than make it violent. Now, when it comes to ‘violence’ I think we have different ideas of definition.

    Many revolutions have been violent but some have used organized armies to carry out that violence. Violence could also be trigged by the mobs. I am against mob violence because it cannot be controlled, whereas an organized army can be controlled. Only the violence that happens through armies can be turned off like a tap, but not mob violence. Even the terror groups, though it looks like they are organized, still act more like mob violence where there is discipline nor allegiance to a authority.

    When USA went to war with British to gain their Independence, they created armies (or militias) which were structured along the discipline and hierarchy of an organized army. Washington was seen as a General, unlike Nehru or KCR who don’t have armies under them. Even during US Civil War, two armies were pitted against each other. They actually met in battle grounds and waged wars like conventional armies. It was not a free for all movement where people of North targeted people of South or the reverse in towns and villages.

    Compare this to the violence unleashed by Jinnah in India before Partition, and the blood bath that broke between Hindus and Muslims during Partition. Thousands of innocent people were killed in the streets, and gutters were filled with bodies and blood. Nobody could control it, and not even the army. The underlying theme was hate. That’s a difficult thing to control. [It’s a different thing that Gandhi could control it much better than the army].

    Coming to Civil Rights Movement in USA, I would characterize it as a nonviolent movement, the way I would characterize Telangana movement a nonviolent movement. I would still consider stone pelting a nonviolent movement though some purists may not agree with my definition.

    Right now, we don’t have a Telangana army ready to take on Andhra army. And any violent method will involve mobs and that would lead to targeting people within our midst. I am against that.

    And coming to non-violence as a principle, I am not a pacifist.

    In India Independance did not lead to any "revolution".

    I do not necessarily agree with that. It has started a revolution, and according to me we are still in the middle of it. It has not ended. My views on this topic are at:

    On our Independence Movement
    http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/on-our-independence-movement.html

    Dethroning our Masters
    http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2008/03/dethroning-our-masters.html

    Dethroning our Masters II
    http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2008/05/dethroning-our-masters-ii.html

    Dethroning our Masters III
    http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/dethroning-our-masters-iii.html

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  7. aditya:

    Can u write more about history of Telengana on the topic whether sep17th is " Vidroham,Vileenam or Vimochanam" it looks bit "cliche" but i think thats all right.

    I think there are many people writing on this and doing much better job than I can. My view is that I think it is a symbolic gesture and therefore we should try not to alienate anyone living in Telangana.

    Such symbolic gestures are extremely important for all mass movements. Gandhi’s support of Khilafat Movement is one such symbolic gesture which included ordinary Muslims into the mainstream movement. Before that only the Muslim elite who had a different movement altogether.

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  8. " I would still consider stone pelting a nonviolent movement though some purists may not agree with my definition.
    "
    Throwing stones is a heinous and anachronistic medieval practice and to you it is a nonviolent activity. Hey your mind is really screwed big time. Don't know how you live your life and look at yourself in the mirror.

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  9. Stone pelting....

    Have you any consideration to the ten's of home guards and constables' families. Doing their duty they get hit by stones on their face/head. The injuries in most cases break the facial bone and since the facial nerve passes just under the skin, in most cases doctors don't undertake surgery. The poor victim is forced to live the rest of his life with a bent bone and every day as he chews food he is reminded of his disability.

    As you throw stones......the kid going in the auto could be yours. The man on the scooter could be your dad.

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  10. POK:
    Stone pelting is done at security forces, not at common people or their property.

    Stone pelting at security forces who carry real guns with real bullets is an act of defiance. Its like a 2-year old baby slapping his parent. It doesn't hurt the parent, but shows that the baby is not happy.

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  11. "Stone pelting at security forces who carry real guns with real bullets is an act of defiance. Its like a 2-year old baby slapping his parent. It doesn't hurt the parent, but shows that the baby is not happy."
    Stone pelting at security forces is foolishness,anarchic,ignorance and childish, knowing fully that you can and will be attacked.
    In a zeal to be too analogy-friendly you are stretching your limited mental faculties a way too little in a bid to make yourself for your cognitive deficiencies.Dude a 2 year old baby slaps his parents not knowing the consequences or its import. Your mind has not grown beyond that of a 2 year old.
    You are losing your mind minute by minute.Maybe you nurture a childhood fantasy and it is suppressed now. Seriously you need a major major help dude.Opinions are no doubt assholes ,indeed they are,after seeing your blog!!!!

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  12. Anonymous:

    You are losing your mind minute by minute.Maybe you nurture a childhood fantasy and it is suppressed now. Seriously you need a major major help dude.Opinions are no doubt assholes ,indeed they are,after seeing your blog!!!!

    Please look at:
    Comic: Them Trolls
    http://sujaiblog.blogspot.com/2010/09/comic-them-trolls.html

    It is specially intended for commenters like you.

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  13. "
    It is specially intended for commenters like you."

    Applause !!!!!!!!!!!! Happy stone pelting,Good luck in breaking heads .did i mention nonviolently !!!!

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  14. Sujai,

    Stone pelting at Security forces .....who are these forces....are they not the people who are risking their lives to protect you and me. they are not there by choice...their job makes them be there. why should you pelt stones at them?
    if you want to show your defiance , go throw the stones at some building like the assembly.

    And if you think the OU goons did not pelt stones on passersby, you are mistake. The buggers threw stones on scooterists, autos, cars, buses and randomly onto the Tarnaka road.

    My friend was hit on the Zygomatic arch (bone below the temple) by a stray stone and it broke his bone. The doctors informed that had the stone landed 1 cm above, his temple would have been hit and one cm below, his facial nerve would have been hit.
    This is what happens in all stone throwing incidents. And unfortunately, the instigators sit at home. it is the poor boys who unable to control their lower emotions get hurt in the ensuting lathi charge or firing.

    Mature people like you should refrain from supporting this stupid habit just to achieve your vested interests.

    Will you dare to send your family into the streets when such stone throwing is going on, secure in the belief that only security people are being targeted?

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  15. "And if you think the OU goons did not pelt stones on passersby, you are mistake. The buggers threw stones on scooterists, autos, cars, buses and randomly onto the Tarnaka road."
    POK
    There is no humanity.There was an incident in Nalgonda when a stone hit and killed a 1 year old(Telangana kid for God's sake) in a bus. The aim of this blog is only to fuel more and more hatred towards Andhraites and law enforcement.God save AP and India from savages! Clearly the author wants to show his darling leaders that he is so committed towards Telangana and win some breadcrumbs in the process.

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  16. POK:

    ...are they not the people who are risking their lives to protect you and me.

    They are the people doing their job. They do not always protect you and me. Sometimes these security forces carry out the order of the rulers. And if the ruler does not represent the people, the security force man becomes the oppressor, not as an individual, but as a tool of that oppressing authority.

    For example, during Indian Independence Movement, almost all the policemen who did lathi charge on Indians protestors were Indian. But does that mean those policemen were there to protect the interests of Indians? Not really. They were carrying out the orders of a state that did not actually represent Indians.

    Right now, Telanganas do not believe the government represents them.

    they are not there by choice...their job makes them be there. why should you pelt stones at them?
    if you want to show your defiance , go throw the stones at some building like the assembly.


    Security forces, like the Assembly building, is the tool of the authority used to suppress certain people.

    And unfortunately, the instigators sit at home. it is the poor boys who unable to control their lower emotions get hurt in the ensuting lathi charge or firing.

    Well, we all play our roles in such mass movements. Some are out there in the front, some are ideologues, some are organizers, some are leaders, some are financers of events, some are writers, and while some are singers. To understand this more, take a look at the Indian Independence Movement. My feeling is that you don’t know too much about history. If you read some books on Indian Independence Movement, you will see some parallels, and hopefully you will understand mass movements for freedoms.

    Mature people like you should refrain from supporting this stupid habit just to achieve your vested interests.

    I do not condone stone pelting. I would not personally do it. But I can understand why people resort to such tactics. I would like us to create a state where such stone pelting is not required. For that we have to be accommodative to people’s aspirations. With people like you who are blind to all reason, it becomes tough to argue using conventional tools of constitutional democracy. And remember, a protest is an integral tool of a democracy. Andhra rulers are not accommodative of our movement and hence people resort to such methods. It is unfortunate, but it is last act of defiance.

    Will you dare to send your family into the streets when such stone throwing is going on, secure in the belief that only security people are being targeted?

    I would not.

    And security forces are within their legal duties to arrest people who vandalize public property. And at the same time it is inalienable right of every human to fight for freedom and defy authority if necessary, knowing fully the consequences of such actions.

    During Indian Independence Movement, many Indians knowingly defied the authority and were jailed.

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  17. @POK
    Do you know how many students were crushed brutally by the
    police force in OU...the grils students were hit at their
    private parts by the police...tell me what would you do
    in that position..I bet you will feel
    like killing the bloody bastard
    police who were mercilessly kicking the students.

    I am sure you dont have the balls to undergo such a situation..

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  18. Student,

    "tell me what would you do
    in that position..I bet you will feel
    like killing the bloody bastard
    police who were mercilessly kicking the students"

    I felt the same way when the blooody bastard OU goons were mercilessly pelting stones on the public under Tarnaka flyover.

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  19. Sujai,

    "Right now, Telanganas do not believe the government represents them. "

    And how are the 4 Cr Telangana people going to prove this?

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  20. POK:

    Sometimes you ask obvious things.

    And how are the 4 Cr Telangana people going to prove this?

    How did Indians prove this when they were being ruled by British?

    The proof for Indians was called Independence Movement, for Americans it was called American Revolution. For Telanganas it is called Telangana Movement - we are right in the middle of it.

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  21. "My feeling is that you don’t know too much about history. If you read some books on Indian Independence Movement, you will see some parallels, and hopefully you will understand mass movements for freedoms. "
    I read so many history books but I didn't find a single case where an Indian has partnered with a British guy in business while fighting the British believing that person just by virtue of belonging to same community as his rulers is thief,looter and robber!

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  23. All ignorant anti-telangana@, before discussing about our agitation whether it a violent or non-violent, please explain me whether our Independence movement is violent or non-violent?

    As per the world history books, I understand, our Independence movement is a peaceful movement.

    But if you ask a anti-telanga@ he can argue with the world that Indian independence is not a peaceful movement, and can show following examples.

    1. Alluri attacked many police stations and stole the guns etc.
    2. Baghat Sing throed bombs in state assembly while the members are in.
    3. Subash lead a army against British.
    4. Many like that...

    There is no end of anti-telangan@ stupidity.

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  24. Anna, I am really inspired by your series of blogposts on the telangana freedom struggle. I do not know why people do not get it. These articles are akin to a cook book clearly elucidating the steps. What you are doing is awesome. Your ideas, suggestions, parallels, analogies, equating the current struggle to Indian independence...hatsoff....in my view you are equally if not more qualified as Bill/Obama to receive the Nobel. Please tell us the next step..how to go ahead and nominate you....if they do not accept the nomination because you are from telangana or if they belittle our freedom struggle, let us know.. we can fight peacefully like organizing bandhs, stone pelting, burning up buses, kicking the sh** out of the professors etc to push your nomination through. If Aung San can get one for sitting in a home for decades doing nothing why can't you for inspiring so many people

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  25. "in my view you are equally if not more qualified as Bill/Obama to receive the Nobel. Please tell us the next step..how to go ahead and nominate you..."
    Wow Nobel Laureate Sujai .Nobel for Peace! This is the height of sycophancy .Nobel Prize for Stone Pelting ,a new category!
    http://nobelpeaceprize.org/en_GB/nomination_committee/who-can-nominate/
    The people who can nominate are as follows.Maybe Kodandaram Reddy, can nominate Sujai!
    University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes.
    Maybe first you can nominate him for Bharata Ratna!

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  26. Nothing short of Nobel is acceptable. Give your Bharath Ratna's to NTR and other andhras ...

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  27. Free mental treatment for sujai.available in all major cities in India.We offer mental care for screwed up and twisted minds.No fees.come to any of our anti_sujai mental care centers.

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  28. Sujai really deserves biggest prize ever given on the earth.
    It is a fact that he is neither Telugu nor Telanganite and he is paid for writing in favor of Telangana.
    I saw people working for money with great commitment.
    But never saw anybody like Sujai working for money with unparalleled compassion.

    On the other hand I also propose next best awards to those writing against Sujai's views.
    Sujai declared himeself neither accountable nor answerable for what he writes.
    Yet these people try to question him, counter him, provoke him.
    They even call him mental. But Sujai takes everything in his stride and keeps writing what he likes.
    Thier persistance to make him respond is really appreciable.

    Well all that I can say is internet is worse than open toilets of Indian villages.
    At least those toilets were kept farther from human habitation.
    Internet is the common toilet in everybody's dining room.

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  29. 'But never saw anybody like Sujai working for money with unparalleled compassion."
    Some people have unresolved conflict with their past life. Generally people want positive strokes for what they do.They want people to appreciate,praise them.But there are some people who with the conflicts they have want negative strokes. They derive pleasure when people blame them or condemn them.
    As human beings we are designed to be social creatures and we need attention, love and recognition from others. If we don't get any we feel lonely and miserable, maybe even abandoned and despairing, which is why negative strokes are better than no strokes. Even negative attention constitutes some sort of attention, and it's easier for us to tolerate that than being ignored completely. This is an easy explanation of why children would rather go for negative attention than none. Negative attention at least affirms one's existence, even if it is in a rather unpleasant way, whilst being ignored stands for abandonment and simply not existing in the other's eyes.
    They blame others only because they know people would say bad things to them.Have seen such things in Hollywood movies.Telangana should really be proud of its Sujais,

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  30. 'But never saw anybody like Sujai working for money with unparalleled compassion."
    Some people have unresolved conflict with their past life. Generally people want positive strokes for what they do.They want people to appreciate,praise them.But there are some people who with the conflicts they have want negative strokes. They derive pleasure when people blame them or condemn them.
    As human beings we are designed to be social creatures and we need attention, love and recognition from others. If we don't get any we feel lonely and miserable, maybe even abandoned and despairing, which is why negative strokes are better than no strokes. Even negative attention constitutes some sort of attention, and it's easier for us to tolerate that than being ignored completely. This is an easy explanation of why children would rather go for negative attention than none. Negative attention at least affirms one's existence, even if it is in a rather unpleasant way, whilst being ignored stands for abandonment and simply not existing in the other's eyes.
    They blame others only because they know people would say bad things to them.Have seen such things in Hollywood movies.Telangana should really be proud of its Sujais,

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  31. Telangana 62: Shall we become violent?

    Please voddu anna....bhayam vestondi..

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  32. @ Nayeem

    Ur Seemandhra media and politicians are publicly calling telengana "lawyers,students,professors,leaders,employees" Ant-Social elements( they are openly calling for troops even from other states to crush the movement) , isnt the Job of anti-scocial elements to engage in brazen acts of violence, if so i dont think we are doin a very gud job for a mob of 4cr "ant-socials" we could do a lot more than "roughing up" a few andhra "settlers" or stoping a few "crappy andhra movies".
    Consider the current score

    Telengana: 300 student suicides, 4 lakh arrests, dozens shot dead by police, few telenganites "lynched" in Seemandhra.

    Seemandhra: some arrests, seemandhra leaders "heckled" by protestors in telengana, some dozen people roughed up in telengana.

    If u see the stats "violence" is overwhelmingly comitted by ur "seemandhra govt" in a disproportionate response to acts of "civil disobedience".
    If u are a smart or empathic person
    which im sure you are not, u will be amazed by the restraint observed by our people, if you are a dumbass u will take at as a sign of weakness, if you are a real "SOB" u will act as innocent peacenik and cry help from troops to crushour legit movement ,which u are doing right now

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  33. "Ur Seemandhra media and politicians are publicly calling telengana "lawyers,students,professors,leaders,employees" Ant-Social elements( they are openly calling for troops even from other states to crush the movement) , isnt the Job of anti-scocial elements to engage in brazen acts of violence, if so i dont think we are doin a very gud job for a mob of 4cr "ant-socials" we could do a lot more than "roughing up" a few andhra "settlers" or stoping a few "crappy andhra movies". "
    You guys had piss in you pants in the Liberation day affair. You wanted to celebrate and rave like a party animal drenched in country liquor.What happened ,you had to beat the retreat when Majilis straightened you out so much so that you began to call what was originally a liberation day with weird sounding names.Hope that will shake you back to your senses. Coming to Seemandhra,I told you umpteen number of times that I'm a native Hyderabadi .Call anybody names but I'll still call your 'intellectuals' my own sweet names,the old city way....

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  34. Majlis is the right mogudu for telanganites.go and bark with them,if you can.

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  35. Majlis is the right mogudu for telanganites.go and bark with them,if you can

    If you think it is because of the Majlis, then you are a fool. It is because some buffoon called Lagadapati tried ignite the fire between muslims and hindus in Telangana to sidetrack the Telangana issue using this unnecessary issue. And Telanga@s nullified his cruel plan by just changing the name of the day to 'veleena dinam' or what ever. What ever the name it will be , we just wanted to recognize this day and we succeed.

    Can some one argue why it can not be a 'vimochana dinam'?

    If Nizam accepted to merge his kingdom into Indian union then it can be called as 'vileena dinam', only after Indian union defeated his forces, he accepted his surrender and accepted for merging(he has no other options). So it should be called 'vimochana(from Nizam) dinam'.

    This blood sucker Lagadapati tried create an impression in muslims that 'Hyd state got freed from muslims', so obviously muslims felt offended. I am sure if Nizam is a hindu, then there will be no objections to call it 'vimochana dinam'.

    When MIM not supported for Telangana, no one cared damn about them, because not all muslims are with MIM.

    Lagadapati can be given a gunnis record for his foolish arguments.

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  36. Comman man....

    Hi,sujai(The next KCR).. till now i thought u have l'il bit thought before writing articles.... with this stupid article u proved urself extremist,terrorist and pervert.Please don't show this article to ur mother,father,&wife.they will definitely feel embarrassed.just watch TV and Read before writing this type of articles.are u living in forest..??
    [Source of this article::thankfully the grass root level leaders in Telangana are still strongly promoting nonviolent methods. And I am glad that this agitation has not gone the violent route...]
    whom you r trying to deceive..?? we r all living in the same society.. we know every thing...
    You have reached such a stage i have expected.. TDP is hurt by some trained daily waged gundas... wat do u say abt that...?? Without vice chancellors orders who will come to correct exam papers..if its wrong whom do the terrorists have to question about it...?? mee papers correct cheyadaniki aa lecturers ki eminaa Durada..?? Doola...?? Aaa matram burra lekundaa enduku aa bastards ala behave chesaaru...?? edi kada violance...?? Be non Partial before writing anything...dont write just because u r having space..and good presentation skills.. Use ur Brain....

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  37. nayeem:

    You guys had piss in you pants in the Liberation day affair. You wanted to celebrate and rave like a party animal drenched in country liquor.What happened ,you had to beat the retreat when Majilis straightened you out so much so that you began to call what was originally a liberation day with weird sounding names.Hope that will shake you back to your senses.

    I don’t know how to react to the statements of yours. Do you really believe that you still have razakars backing you? Or do you really think you are still under Nizam era?

    If a town in Telangana decides to celebrate Guru Nanak Birthday, it is not because they pissed in their pants fearing the Sikhs of Telangana, or because the Sikh community straightened out Telanganas. It is because Telanganas have become appreciative and accommodative of this community who are living with them.

    It is foolish to think that the current Telangana agitators have decided to change the name for 17 September event fearing MIM.

    If Americans celebrate Gandhi’s birthday in US, it is not because they piss in their pants fearing Indians or because they were straightened out by the Indians, but it is because Americans are recognizing the presence and contributions of Indians living in US.

    I still hope that someday, I don’t know when, you will graduate from your 4th class. Meanwhile, I am quite sure you must be such a pain for your teachers.

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  38. @Nayeem and all other cowards

    We didnt have a "rave" on sep 17th drinking our country made liquor celebrating "vimochanam" not because we are afraid of "paki" loving relegious-fasicsts Razakars and their sidekick Majlis because there were different views about sep 17th and we want to respect the views of different sections within the movement, we didnt call it libereation day because in the wake of "police action" artrocities were comitted on Muslim people as reprisals for the violence by "razakars" and their majlis friends similar to the Guj police,the Indian army didnt try to stop it in many places, and conservative estimates from govt sources are that 2 lakh muslims killed ,it was limited mainly to the presentday Marthwadwa and Karnataka, in some places 20-30% of local muslim population goat wiped out and many fled to presentday Hyd, all this in a disproportionate response to acts of violence carried out by ur heroes( razakars and majlis).
    Telengana revolution was mostly led by commis and many of the leaders were Muslims and Razakar movement is a anti-peasent movement had support of many upper caste-hindus,so only idiots like u will apply relegious colors to peoples movements, and many lower cast intellecutals like "gaddar,illayah" feel that "telengana" revolution was crushed by the Indian state ,the reversal of land reforms achieved by the revolution, etc.and they see it as "Vidroham" ours is a democratic movement unlike ur samykhandhra movement which is similar to ur cowardly "razakar" movement ( whose leaders ranaway to Pakistan rather than fight the"police action" unlike our "revolutionaries") who stood their ground. Majlis and razakars were wettin their pants when muslim "revolutionaries" where killin their leaders and its not the other wayaround.

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  39. Gandhian satyagraha, for example, is a kind of political theatre. In order for it to be effective, it needs a sympathetic audience( the British public was largely so) unlike in Kashmir (much of the Indian public remains apathetic to the suffering of Kashmiris) so it is “Insane” and similar to asking Jews to protest peacefully against Nazis or asking Vietnamese to do a Satyagraha against the Invading Yankees . International media is already referring to the Kashmiri protests as “Intifadha”(uprising against the state), the Slogans on the Streets of Kashmir are changing from Chants of “Azadi” to “Death to India”. JKLF which is a secular “separatist” party is being eclipsed by the “Pro-Pakistani” Hurriyat party due to the arrogance of the Indians. Iam finding “Seemandhra” public largely apathetic to the Telengana movement (except few back ward castes) and the central govt is in a deep slumber and in order to wake it up I think it needs a rude awakening and when telenganites get tired of being called “Separatists” and “anti-social elements” by their “Seemandhra Counterparts” they may have no path left except of their northern Kashmiri brothers and I don’t have much confidence in the capabilities of the govt to shield 3 million “settlers “ from the fury of 4Crore angry souls.

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  40. illayah never supported Telangana.Infact Telangana leaders went to his house and created an uproar.They defaced his house and wrote Jai Telangana on the walls.
    ' we didnt call it libereation day because in the wake of "police action" artrocities were comitted on Muslim people as reprisals for the violence by "razakars" and their majlis friends similar to the Guj police,the Indian army didnt try to stop it in many places, and conservative estimates from govt sources are that 2 lakh muslims killed ,it was limited mainly to the presentday Marthwadwa and Karnataka, in some places 20-30% of local muslim population goat wiped out and many fled to presentday Hyd, all this in a disproportionate response to acts of violence carried out by ur heroes( razakars and majlis)."

    Were your darling leader not aware of these events when they gave a call to celebrate the Liberation day.Why did they change their stand after MIM spelt out it stand.
    You are contradicting yourself if you want to support the liberation it is fine.You are unclear as to what you are talking about.

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  41. Nazi Propaganda :

    Jews want to dominate the world

    Jews stole your jobs

    Jews are the root cause of all problems in Germany.

    Telangana Propaganda :

    Andhras want to dominate Telanganas

    Andhras stole your water ,jobs ,culture

    Andhras are root cause of all your sufferings.

    So , My dear Andhras, are you willing to learn from history and stand up for yourself or rather be exterminated like millions jews were exterminated.

    Remember " A person who doesnt learn from history is bound to repeat it "

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  42. @aditya
    meeku pratyeka rashtram korukune hakkku entha undo, adhr vidhamga peda, madhya taragathi setlersnu kapade badhyatha kooda anthe undi
    oka pakka lecturersni attack cheyyadam, alanti panulu chestu unte how can u expect the common people in seemandhra to support u?
    had u given an assurance in them right from th ebegininning of the momemt, had u toured seemandhra towns, the situation would have been totally different and u would have got ur freedom by now

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  43. "So , My dear Andhras, are you willing to learn from history and stand up for yourself or rather be exterminated like millions jews were exterminated."
    Cool dude. We are scared of the big storm coming to the tea cups in Andhra. Scared about extermination.OOOOOOOOO. All the best! What ever you do Telangana will not be achieved now that the leaders want to fight over everything.
    Hail Andhra Pradesh!!!!!!
    God bless Telangana,KCR,Kodandaram,
    Yaskhi .Let Him give them some courage to plan the 'extermination' .

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  44. You are contradicting yourself if you want to support the liberation it is fine.

    Untill your buffoon ignited this feeling, no one thought about second name for sep-17. Infact your beloved samakyavadi CBN did celebrated this day as 'vimochana dinam' for years, only after this buffoon statements they too did changed the name.

    As my friend told, MIM is supporter of Nizam in that days, and they want to bag such contraverses by coloring it with religious matters for there vote bank.

    At any reasons in every one hearts they know it is 'vimochana dinam', and some cowards afraid to accept it but you can not change the history.

    If you take north american history, America took the independence from British by force, so they celebrate the day as independence day. But Canada was given independence by British(not by force), so Canada do not celebrate the day as independence day, instead they just call it as 'Canada day'.

    So how did HYD state got merged into Indian union? by force or by voluntary?

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  45. >>Sujai is so mental that he posts many messages with different names.

    we too can say

    anit_sujai aka nayeem.

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  46. >>you are being a traitor and are supporting Kasmir liberation.

    please do not go off topic, if you want to go that beyond, I too hve to go where there are so many mistakes India did as there foreign/internal matters. Just dont blindly support everything done by India just because you are indian.

    Just remember, Germans embraced and supported Nazis and suppressed whom dont supported. Soo what happened to their country after WW-II,

    Many of intellectual Muzlims are not actively condemning/rejecting the Taliban/Al-Kida, see what happening to there community? Few(many) countries unofficially calling them terrorist religion.

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  47. >>How much did KCR pay you for you crappy articles??

    Not that much what you are getting from your Kavuri, Lagadapati.

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  48. >>Remember " A person who doesnt learn from history is bound to repeat it "

    WOnderful, go and read your Andhra state formation history, so you will understand why we need Telangana.

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  49. Nazi Propaganda :

    Jews want to dominate the world

    Jews stole your jobs

    Jews are the root cause of all problems in Germany.

    Andhra propaganda in Madras:

    Tamils want to dominate on Telugu

    Tamils will steal your jobs

    Conclusion:
    Andhra people guessed there future(with no logical/technical evidence) they agitated for state division. Completely bull shit.

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  50. My dear Andhras ,

    Dont take this threats of violence lightly. Telangana goons have history on their side.

    Remember 1947, India doesnt agree for partition , Jinnah plays his masterstroke , He unleashes violence on the so called " Direct Action Day"

    Result : Lakhs of Indians die but Pakistan gets created.

    Hey hang on dude , we have a centre and state government in this country , wont they step in and control the violence ?

    They would , except that formation of Telangana suits their purpose. If centre and state govts close their eyes just for 2-4 days that would be enough time for T goons to inflict enough losses on andhra settlers and thus break the spirit of andhras on a whole. Think about violence on Sikhs in Delhi , violence on Muslims in Gujarat. Governments kept quiet because it suited their purpose at that time.

    This whole revival of telangana agitation is the brain child of 'Dynasty'. So dont expect any help from center.

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  51. @Nameless

    My dear Andhras ,

    Dont take this threats of violence lightly. Telangana goons have history on their side.


    At last I see some “sense” coming in to Andhras, Fear is good for Survival but arrogance is not. Andhras especially “settlers” were showing so much “arrogance” towards Telengana movement ,brushing it aside as a “law and order” problem, they do not realize how “precarious their situation is”, they fail to realize that they are able to “settle” and have prosperous and peaceful lives in Telengana not because “central govt enforces the right to settle in any corner of the country” but due to the “goodwill” of local “Telengana” people who see them as hardworking entrepreneurs bringing benefit to the community as a whole, but when that view of them is replaced by that they are “ arrogant, parasitic class of people hell bent on exploiting local people” enforced by “propaganda” of KCR or by their own arrogant behavior, they loose all the “security”, guarenteed not by some “constitutional right” enforced by “paramilitary forces” but by the “good will” of Telengana people. Salvage what is left of the “good will” of Telengana people before it completely “evaporates” due to ur “foolhardiness “ or else U “settlers” will find urself in “dire” conditions.
    You are right “nameless” government is not a “ moral agent” and will act only when its suits its Purpose.
    “Lagadapti”(a capitalist thug) is actin as spokesperson for “Samykhandhra” movement , its not very beneficial for Andhra “ settlers” because his motives and goals do not align with the rest of “settler population” he can hope to be “safe” even when all the hell brakes loose in Telengana but that cant be said about the rest of “settler” population. His main motive is to protect his “investments” and not “Andhra settlers”.

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  52. Peacefullaaaaaa Pichi Vedhava ... Buses burnt... andhra peoples shops attacked... exams disrupted... violently beating scooter wallahs, auto wallahs, car wallas during a bandh, destroying shops, ..... using abusive language..... is this not violence .... fools like you think that this is not violence... the whole movement is violent ... it is aimed at breaking the state into two ....

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  53. fools like you think that this is not violence... the whole movement is violent ... it is aimed at breaking the state into two ....

    If you think it is violent, then so be it. But you are not a saint to tell all these to us, you did the same thing to separate from Madras.

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  54. On one side you do not want to live in future or past, but all the articles only take the route of Indian Independence movement anamoly. Reading couple of books do not make a man literate, sensible behaviour, broad thinking and proper thought process does! Sujai you need to figure out where there was a miss in your life, that now you become so ONE SIDED!

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