Wednesday, December 29, 2010

SriKrishna Committee Report Leaked

Hurrah! SriKrishna Committee Report has been leaked.  Here are some of the salient points:

For Separate Telangana State:
Overwhelming majority in Telangana seeks a separate state; the current ten districts of Telangana could be carved into a separate state with Hyderabad as its capital;
Pros: Enough indications suggest that this region was neglected and its people discriminated against; a separate state would address many of the concerns ailing this region.  For example, a new state of Telangana would definitely get more water and therefore bring prosperity to the region.  Could also lead to elimination of Naxal Movement because people will get a political voice in Indian democracy.
Cons: Seemandhra people may get disappointed and may burn some buses in Seemandhra region. 

For United State:
Majority in Coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema would like to keep the state united; the status quo could be maintained with introduction of regional board for each region – Telangana, Coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema, and special packages could be given for neglected and backward districts.
Pros: no change required to current administration setup; will make people of Seemandhra extremely happy; Telangana people will be under superior rulers of Seemandhra region.
Cons: will make people of Telangana extremely unhappy; could lead to massive agitations and uprising in Telangana, but our outstanding Indian Army and Air Force can easily suppressing it with less than 5 lakh people dead; could lead to escalation of Naxal Movement like it happened in the aftermath of 1969.

For Separate Hyderabad State or Union Territory:
Some pockets and colonies in Hyderabad seek separate status away from the rogues and villains of Telangana; all the houses and colonies seeking separate Hyderabad could be made into a separate state or union territory.  Though disjoint geographically, which will result in collection of conclaves completely surrounded by Telangana as first-of-its-kind experiment in human history, it will satisfy the aspirations of these people. 
Pros: The map will like speckle of dust, making it very interesting in class room discussions all around the word. 
Cons: Telangana people may want to charge a cess of 200 rupees each time the residents of this region enter Telangana.   Even if the kid wants to play coming out of the home and enter Telangana, he has to pay up.  All these entry fees into Telangana, with complete dependence for water and power on Telangana, it may result in negative GDP for this region.

Sharing capital city:
There are some people from Seemandhra who do not want to let go of Telangana and would like to hold onto the city, and as a compromise suggest sharing of Hyderabad city as capital for both the regions of Telangana and Seemandhra.  A model like Berlin during Cold War is proposed with a wall to separate the two sections of the city.
Pros: Though it is not in their culture, Seemandhras could still have easy access to Hyderabadi Biryani; A Hyderabad Wall (like Berlin Wall) manned by military will be a tourist spot and make interesting stories for movies, like love affairs between couple living on different sides of the wall.
Cons: Like with Berlin, Seemandhra has to airlift all amenities like water and food to its residents since their part of the city is completely surrounded by Telangana.


For merger with Pakistan:
Few individuals in some small conclaves in Hyderabad still dream of restoring Hyderabad State by annexing Marathwada and Karnatak region and then merge it with Pakistan;  though it is not possible to restore the erstwhile Hyderabad State, it is possible to create small conclaves  of Pakistan inside India. 
Pros: Creation of small Pakistan inside India will come handy when people like  Bal Thackeray want to torment some Pakistanis by cutting off their water supplies.
Cons: The residents may need a visa to step out of their homes.  In case of war, this region can be used by Pakistan to launch nuclear strike against India from within India.

Remerging of Seemandhra with Tamil Nadu
There are some Telanganas who propose that Seemandhras should set an example of remaining in a ‘united state’ by remerging Seemandhra region with Tamil Nadu.
Pros:  Tamils will now have someone to kick around the way Andhras had Telanganas all this while.
Cons: Andhras will be kicked around now like their Telangana brothers.  

[This is a parody of the report based on the statement made by VK Duggal, a member of SriKrishna Committee, who said that the report would offer “several options with their pros and cons.”]

227 comments:

  1. Halarious... especially the option of merging Andhra back to Tamil ...

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  2. Hilarious indeed...hope the actual report does not end up proposing options like these

    Venkat

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  3. @Sujai,


    I am really disappointed with your post here.

    You completely forgot pok's suggestion of a separate state for Mahbubnagar ;)

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  4. telengana employees face everyday from andhras,

    Guys, please keep this one post humorous, no serious discussions...... for some time we just forget about everything and have fun shooting jokes one each other and post it here..... like Lavanya.

    May be POK like to join hands with 'sara' in there new Delhi state which contains HYD and Mahbubnagar as the Delhi state parts.

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  5. Sujai's hallucination is maturing. Previously he believed lies and hoped that even SKC would believe his lies.

    He is entering the schizophrenic territory. Now he cannot believe the truth and facts that SKC may give.

    Wish him well.

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  6. please remove this post

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  7. justice sri krishnaDecember 30, 2010 9:50 AM

    seperate the state
    pros:
    andhraites would have a new capital with infrastruture and investments flowing over a period of time.as most of the employees in it/bpo companies in hyd are from andhra region, we need not move to hyd for jobs and studies in large numbers.seperate nit/iiit/hitech city would come up over a period of time
    cons:1)hooligan group by the name of ou jac would not get feeding money from trs
    2)ppl of telangana would be subjected to fascist rule by a long nosed person and his family
    united ap:
    pros:1)the same long nosed person would keep getting ransom money from big contractors and other businessmen from andhra region and also advertisements from their firms in his tv channel namely raj news.
    cons: 1)working class andhraites who have nowhere would be subjected to verbal abuse from "scholars" like sujai and aditya and physical abuse from rowdy gangs.

    hence the centre is advised to take a reasonable decision

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  8. Sujai,

    I have always considered you a bright kid. Intelligent, astute, well-read and articulate. Your thought process is quite systematic and logical. The only problem was a very deep-rooted animosity (?) for andhras, possibly as a result of information absorbed by you / fed to you as a little child of 8-15 years old. I can only guess someone very close to you like a father of elder brother was possibly a victim of some andhra fellow. that victimization was quite deep and therefore had a profound influence on you.
    This article by you, if meant to be humourous is good but it looks more like a projection of your helplessness as a reaction to what is likely to be in the SKC report.

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  9. I didn't expect you are such an a$$hole.
    You created your own stupid story and say"LEAKED"

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  10. You created your own stupid story and say"LEAKED"

    Your comment only showing your frustration, didn't you read the last line of the post?

    This is a parody of the report based on the statement made by VK Duggal

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  12. Most of you who commented on Sujai saying disappointed or didn't expect etc.... didn't read the important part of the posting "parody".
    So just chill and enjoy don't show your frustration here, just read and enjoy.
    If you can't take it then 1st point is going to happen.

    Meeku intha matram orchukoleka poote mari meemu 54 yendla sandi kelli orchukunta vastanam. Maa koopam chupiste Hyderabad la yevalu undaru. Meemu Indians yekadaina undachu ani maatanu nammutanam kabatti oopikaga unnamu. So pichi pichi comments rayakundri.
    Eee matalu kuda barinchanolu Samaikyanka ani yetlaantandru. first Samaikyam ante definition telsukondri.

    Jai Telangana

    Jai Telangana

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  13. Sujai,

    I'm a fan of your blogs.

    Even though you masked your blog as a parody, the point is well made.

    All that is to be said is already said. There is nothing this SK report will say new. Anything it says or suggests, short of a separate state, will not change realities on the ground.

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  14. the real skc report will sound more "ridiculous" than this post,It will sound funny that it took a committee of experts almost "one year" to say that Telengana is Neglected and Discriminated even a Blind person can say that.

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  15. wallstreet journal article on current TG situation


    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/12/29/crunch-time-for-telangana/

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  16. From Business Standard, 30th Dec 2010

    When India’s first Prime Minister, Jawaharlal Nehru, called Hyderabad the republic’s “second capital”, he had more than one reason for doing so. Of all the major metropolitan centres today, Delhi and Hyderabad are the only ones that were historically “pan-Indian” even before the arrival of the British. India’s politicians who changed Bombay to Mumbai, Calcutta to Kolkata, Madras to Chennai and Bangalore to Bengaluru cannot, however, deny that these great cities were, in fact, built by the British. Delhi in the plains of northern India and Hyderabad in peninsular India were great pre-British urban centres. A second reason why Nehru dubbed post-Independence Hyderabad a second capital, with the president of the republic residing there for several weeks in the year at the city’s Rashtrapathi Nilayam, was its cosmopolitanism. The city has always been home to a mix of people from different religions and regions. Finally, the central government adopted Hyderabad as a major centre for national institutions and defence and strategic establishments. In the post-Nehruvian era, thanks to the green revolution and economic liberalisation, Hyderabad became a magnet for private sector investment, attracting enterprise and capital from the coastal districts as well as from the rest of India. The growth of Cyberabad brought globalisation back to the inheritors of the once globalised city of Golconda.

    Against this background, any solution offered to mitigate the genuine grievances pertaining to the lack of development in the region around Hyderabad, namely Telangana, should not hurt the long-term interests of the city’s growth and development. The uncertainty of the past year in Andhra Pradesh, created largely by the political mishandling of the situation in the state by the national leadership of the Congress party, has already hurt Hyderabad. The media have reported a drying up of investment plans for the city and its hinterland, a crash in real estate values, the accumulation of unused commercial space and so on. Hopefully, the Justice Sri Krishna Commission has taken a long-term view of Hyderabad’s development in putting forward its various options for the solution of the Telangana imbroglio. The commission has essentially played the role of a good journalist, gathering ideas that have been around for some time and putting them together. If the agitation of the 1970s yielded a six-point formula, the present one seems to have produced a five-point menu: status quo, bifurcation, trifurcation, bifurcation with Hyderabad securing a union territory status and being capital of only Telangana (with a new capital for Andhra) or for both regions. None of this is a new idea and what gets finally accepted will depend on the political wisdom of all concerned. From Hyderabad’s point of view, a status under which its own future development would not remain hostage to the provincial and caste politics of a smaller state would be the best option. If Hyderabad is formally declared India’s second capital, a national second capital region can be created and administered by a locally elected government. It is thinking on these lines that must develop if justice has to be done both to the people of Telangana and the future of Hyderabad.

    http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/state-citycity-state/420000/

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  17. Inspired by Sujai , my own parody.

    For UA or Hyd UT or Sep Hyd state :

    Pros : Fair settlement for all regions

    Cons : Lakhs of andhras will be killed in Hyd city ,will ultimately lead to cession of Andhra from Indian Union.

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  18. @sera guess the author of the article is from north india like u

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  19. //If Hyderabad is formally declared India’s second capital,

    it will became a best example to show the world how a third boob looks like.

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  20. http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/state-citycity-state/420000/

    A best comment from above link

    The author forgets this and wants the 'city-state' to be handed over to migrants and not to the people to which it belongs!

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  21. @Karim,

    Halarious.....

    I too agree that we dont need a second capital. The reason why our great leaders thought about HYD as second capital at that time is ...because

    1. HYD has good weather conditions
    2. Mixed culture
    3. Good infrastructure
    4. And mainly because it is tooooo far from enemy states for them to attack.

    None of the above reason are valid now.

    Pros: None ..
    Cons: Waste of tax payers money to maintain second capital.

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  22. enna daa Sujai?
    We already kicked these Andhra dogs out. Do you think we will allow them to merge with us again? It won't happen even if they do a 'SamaikaAndhraTamil' udyamam for 100 years!

    All the best for your Telangana state. Wish your dreams come true in 2011 :)

    -Kathir

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  23. @SERA

    The author of your great Business Standard article did not even give his name( So much for Credibility).

    Dont gather some bullshit from some third grade sources and post it here.

    Some of the articles on Telengana by some Respected International Journals:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/world/asia/31india.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/world/asia/11india.html

    http://www.economist.com/node/15127677

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703442904574594762748026756.html


    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/12/29/crunch-time-for-telangana/

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  24. The detractors to Telangana Movement comprise of many Seemandhras, some settlers in Hyderabad who have never bothered to assimilate into the local region though they have lived here for generations, and very few migrants who have recently moved to Hyderabad.

    Their first reaction to Telangana Movement is of inconvenience, which is nothing but natural. But some of them go overboard and start looking for an opportunity to create a separate status for Hyderabad as if this city came about independent of Telangana. Without paying attention to socio-political history of this region, guided by sheer self-interest, these detractors are looking for various ludicrous options to wean away this city from people of Telangana. And we are unnecessarily forced into fighting these ludicrous options by providing some sanity.

    Earlier they came up with silly arguments like investors owned the city, or that a certain religious community owned the city, which were all struck down with rational counterargument. Now, they are looking into the remote past to find suggestions which favor their silly argument.

    Ambedkar purportedly suggested that Hyderabad could become the second capital. But then he suggested many other things, like Dalits should convert to other religions away from Hinduism, that English should be language of instruction. They are not taken up by Indians and nobody champions these other suggestions. Some of these suggestions are valid and some are not in today’s context. For example, reservations-for-lower-caste has vastly reduced the need for Dalits to convert to other religions, though the need for English as a medium of instruction is still a valid one.

    Making Hyderabad a second capital is one of the romantic ideas that some of our leaders entertained, which is completely abandoned now. All these detractors, the Seemandhras and other settlers who migrated into Hyderabad, did not make a case for Hyderabad for second capital all these years. None of them raised their voice in 1956 when Telangana was being merged with Andhra State. They did not make any case all these years till very recently. So how is that all of a sudden they start promoting this idea, if not for the simple reason that they do not want let this city belong to Telangana, when in fact this city always belonged to Telangana? How come people like sera and her ilk, and the author of the Business Standard article did not ask for a second capital all these years. Why were they happy to see this city compete with other cities like Mumbai and Bangalore as capital cities of a state?

    The article in Business Standard cites certain reasons for the alleged suggestion that Hyderabad should be made a second capital none of which are valid anymore.

    Of all the major metropolitan centres today, Delhi and Hyderabad are the only ones that were historically “pan-Indian” even before the arrival of the British.

    Currently, Mumbai stands to be more ‘pan-Indian’ than Hyderabad. So why not propose Mumbai as the second capital. Mumbai is also a financial giant and Hyderabad pales in comparison. Bangalore also competes with Hyderabad on ‘pan-Indianness’.

    Contd..

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  25. A second reason why Nehru dubbed post-Independence Hyderabad a second capital … was its cosmopolitanism.

    Today, Mumbai is more cosmopolitan than Hyderabad. Shouldn’t Mumbai be made second capital if ever if ‘cosmopolitanism’ is a good enough reason to make a city second capital? What about Kolkata, Chennai, Pune, Bangalore?

    Finally, the central government adopted Hyderabad as a major centre for national institutions and defence and strategic establishments.

    So is Bangalore. Today, Bangalore with many DRDO labs, HAL, NAL, ADE, etc, rivals Hyderabad on defense and strategic establishments. So why shouldn’t Bangalore be made second capital?

    The author thinks Hyderabad is only exception. Many other cities in India, thanks to green revolution and liberalization, have become ‘magnets for private sector investment’. Mumbai and Bangalore beats Hyderabad on this any day.

    The media have reported a drying up of investment plans for the city and its hinterland

    It is clear that these media houses are run by parties who are opposed to creation of Telangana, and that they have created artificial news to create fear amongst the residents of Hyderabad, including the article in question.

    From Hyderabad’s point of view, a status under which its own future development would not remain hostage to the provincial and caste politics of a smaller state would be the best option.

    Every city in India except New Delhi is tied to the regional politics, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore, Mumbai, are all tied to the regions and its politics. Why is Hyderabad an exception?

    The idea of a second capital is a foolish idea, something similar to the idea of some Indian nationalist who thinks of pan-India that includes Burma and Afghanistan inside India. The modern democracy USA does not have two capital cities, neither does the biggest democracy in size (Russia) though it spans two continents, nor does the oldest democracy UK. None of the world’s most developed, Japan, Scandinavian countries like Sweden, Norway, Denmark, or the world’s biggest economies like France, Germany, Italy, do not have two capital cities. This whole idea of having two capital cities is foolish and does not make any sense in the current context of India, though our leaders may have entertained this idea however briefly.

    These detractors of Telangana Movement are bent upon coming up with all kinds of silly arguments to deprive Telangana people the only prized possession they have. Such self-centered people have always made it tough for genuine people’s movements to succeed. Some Rajahs and babus under British India did not want British to leave India because they enjoyed special privilege while millions of their countrymen were deprived of basic human dignity suffering under servitude. People like sera and her ilk and this author, and many Seemandhras who seem to be of the same opinion,or no different from these Rajahs and babus.

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  26. @ Sera and other Loons


    1. HYD has good weather conditions.
    << Delhi has shitty weather it became capital, why not make Ooty capital of India.
    2. Mixed culture
    << Dont know what to say.
    3. Good infrastructure
    << Really?
    4. And mainly because it is tooooo far from enemy.
    <<< Hyderabad is well within range of Pakistani Ballistic Missiles Dont even Think of Chinese.

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  27. @Sera

    Your great BussinessStandard articles author did not even give his name( So much for Credibility). Dont post Shitty articles from third grade sources.

    Here are some articles on Telangana By respected International journals like NYtimes, WallstreetJournal,economist


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/world/asia/31india.html

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703442904574594762748026756.html


    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/12/29/crunch-time-for-telangana/

    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/07/30/statehood-drive-stays-strong-in-telangana/

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  28. Mumbai and Bangalore beats Hyderabad on this any day.

    Sujai, you unnecessarily gave them another good idea, see what happens next. They start demanding to convert Mumbai into third capital and Bangalore into fourth capital of India. Another messy situation. :(

    Or another possibility, they may demand to make a new Greater Delhi State which includes Delhi, Mumbai, Banglore and Hyderabad. (and Mahabubnagar, not sure they join them or want to stay alone or want to join SA, I request POK give some inputs about his plans)

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  29. @Sera

    Your great BussinessStandard articles author did not even give his name( So much for Credibility). Dont post Shitty articles from third grade sources.

    Here are some articles on Telangana By respected International journals like NYtimes, WallstreetJournal,economist


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/world/asia/31india.html

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703442904574594762748026756.html


    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/12/29/crunch-time-for-telangana/

    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/07/30/statehood-drive-stays-strong-in-telangana/

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  30. above 'they' means the who asking for HYD as second capital.

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  31. @Sera

    Your great BussinessStandard articles author did not even give his name( So much for Credibility). Dont post Shitty articles from third grade sources.

    Here are some articles on Telangana By respected International journals like NYtimes, WallstreetJournal,economist


    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/31/world/asia/31india.html

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703442904574594762748026756.html


    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/12/29/crunch-time-for-telangana/

    http://blogs.wsj.com/indiarealtime/2010/07/30/statehood-drive-stays-strong-in-telangana/

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  32. Aditya,
    This show your half baked knowledge. Having HYD as second capital was an idea during 1950's and it's not in 2010.

    voopukunta vastaru asalu ikkada yem matladutandro telvakunta. Atu telsi telvanola toni ide problem.

    1950's Hyderabad kavalsina anni 2nd rajadhani ki kavalsina anni sadupayalu unde. ee andra palakulu vachinanka yetu kaakunta poyindi.

    Koncham vaadu Aditya.
    Jai Telangana.

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  33. @Sunil Reddy

    Can you please explain why "andhras" would be against making "Hyderabad" a Second capital, i thought they would want it.

    Iam talking about 2010 .

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  34. @Aditya,

    Please check my comments, I never said Andhra's are against making Hyd as a 2nd Capital.

    Views of making HYD as 2nd capital was in 1950's this show how developed HYD was during that time. Now I pitty on some people who claim that they have developed HYD.


    Now in this world no city is safe. Any city can be attacked from any where.

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  35. Response to the Business Standard article
    <<<n extolling the importance and history of Hyderabad, the editorial “State, city and city-state” (December 30) seems to elicit public opinion in favour of making the city a union territory.

    Hyderabad has great geographical importance and its development cannot be ignored by any political dispensation, whether as a part of a separate Telangana region or the capital of Andhra Pradesh. It is mischievous to propagate the idea that the city would lose its importance if it is assigned to Telangana.


    The editorial states that “from Hyderabad’s point of view, a status under which its own future development would not remain hostage to the provincial and caste politics of a smaller state would be the best option”. It also prescribes that Hyderabad be formally declared India’s second capital, created and administered by a locally elected government. This, however, would mean taking away from the left hand what the right hand may give. At this moment, Andhra Pradesh needs a statesmanlike solution and not the one that is seemingly attractive, clothed in history and geography, which may result only in continued dissatisfaction among the people. The media should not have succumbed to this bait and should have waited for the verdict.

    From their own site

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  36. @Adithya,

    No one said in this forum to make Hyd as 2nd capital in 2010. You miss interpreted, I don't think so Jawaharlal Nehru is still alive to give that statement. Please check, his views were in 1950's but not in 2010.
    Still you want to argue on this topic sorry no one is there as this is irrelevant now looking at current India status there are many bigger cities than Hyd in India.
    Now it's a question for you what made Hyderabad to drop from 5th largest city to 7 or 8th in 2010. It was 5th before merger(Hyderabad State) and 7/8th in 2010 (under Andhra Pradesh)?
    Answer is because of the same people who claim that they have developed Hyd?

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  37. Union Home Minister P Chidambaram has called a meeting of eight political parties from Andhra Pradesh aimed at finding an answer to the explosive issue of creating a separate State of Telangana. In Chidambaram’s own admission, this is just the first step of consultations in order to devise a mechanism and roadmap that will consider formation of Telangana at an appropriate time after arriving at a consensus.

    Having burnt his finger once, Chidambaram is very shrewd in not making any commitment this time. All that he wants to say now is that, “we are not taking any action, we are just responding to the demands of the State. In the first step we have called the recognised parties in the State to device a mechanism and a roadmap.” Of the eight political parties, Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS), headed by K Chandrasekhar Rao, which has taken the issue of separate Telangana to the brink by spearheading the recent agitation, the BJP and the CPI are in support of the bifurcation of the State, whereas Chiranjeevi’s Praja Rajyam Party and the CPM want to preserve the unity of the State. Of course, the All-India Majlis-e-Ittehaadul Muslimees (MIM) is still playing its cards close to its chest.

    But the two major political parties, the Congress party and Telugu Desam Party (TDP), are vertically split and caught in a regional divide.

    While leaders from Telangana of both the parties are campaigning for separate statehood, the leaders from the coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema regions are fighting for a united Andhra Pradesh. Chidambaram will be happy to meet the political parties who have divergent and belligerent views about the statehood for Telangana as he had committed to initiating the process of the formation of Telangana through consensus building. He knows there cannot be any consensus at this stage and that will help the Centre which is facing similar demands from Vidarbha in Maharashtra, Gurkhaland in West Bangal and Buldelkhand in Uttar Pradesh.

    The formation of a separate Telangana is inevitable; the Centre can only buy time and delay it. Having said that, the fate of Hyderabad has become the most contentious issue. There are several proposals – I) to make it a Union Territory, 2) to make it the Capital of Telangana and, 3) make it the joint Capital of Telangana and Andhra.

    Telangana without the capital city of Hyderabad will not be acceptable to the people of Telangana because the money is there, the power is there. Without Hyderabad, Telangana will have only some coal mines and some of the most underdeveloped areas. It cannot be a joint capital like Chandigarh because Hyderabad is in the heart of Telangana and the people of the new State of Andhra may have to travel at least 200 km into Telangana to reach their State Capital. Since Andhra does not have a ready-made capital city, Hyderabad can remain the joint capital till Andhra develops a modern capital city of its own.

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  38. What are the options? Vijayawada or Visakhapatnam? Will the Reddys agree to make Vijayawada, a Kamma-dominated city, as their capital? Visakhapatnam has its own limitations. The city cannot grow on all four sides as on one side there is the Bay of Bengal and on one side there are huge hills. Or go back to Kurnool, which was the original capital of Andhra from 1953 before the states reorganisation came into force in 1956? But the area is still underdeveloped and is not very accessible. The plausible choice, therefore, will be the Rajmundry-Kakinada belt. Kakinada has been already developed into a modern port.

    That takes us back to Hyderabad. If the uncertainty about the fate of Hyderabad continues, what will happen to the growth of the city? The ongoing agitation has already resulted in loss of business worth hundreds of crores. Hyderabad, which was founded in 1591 by Mohammed Quli Qutub Shah, is not only famous for its rich heritage and culture but is also known for its excellent scientific temperament, with institutions like IICT (Indian Institute of Chemical Technology) CCMB (Centre for Cellular and Molecular Biology), CDFD (Centre for DNA and Fingerprint Diagnostics), NIN (National Institute of Nutrition) and so on.
    The arrival of e-world has revolutionised the city and transformed it into a virtual cyberland and earned the epitaph of Cyberabad. This writer was witness to the development of Hyderabad as Hi-Tech Hyderabad and the credit for making it a magnificent city must go to former chief minister Chandrababu Naidu. The Hi Tech City, ICICI Knowledge Park, Biotech Park, the International Convention Centre, the Indian School of Business (ISB) and above all the Hyderabad International Airport, finest in the country at international standards, are all his initiatives. Once the State is bifurcated, what will happen to this great city?

    Surely for national and international companies, Hyderabad will not be in the priority list for investment any longer. The city depends on its NRI community and cash rich business class of coastal Andhra, for major investments and finances. After the bifurcation, the action shifts to the new Andhra State which will have to build a new capital city and the investors will find it a lucrative market better than Hyderabad.

    Some of the administrative offices will shift to Andhra from Hyderabad. Along with it, there will be a massive movement of staff and other paraphernalia, resulting in a huge vaccum and empty real estate space. The real estate business will be the first casualty as there will be less demand for property and hence crash in prices. Even most of the Andhra businessmen may find it convenient to shift their units to new Andhra. The slowdown in industrial activity, lower consumer spending and sharp fall in land registrations will, no doubt, give a big jolt to the State Government's finances. After the division, shifting and relocation, Hydrabad city will be left with the Musi river!

    Does Chandrababu Naidu like to witness such a scenario? Probably, not. Initially, he supported the statehood movement. That was a historical blunder, like strangulating ones own baby to death. Even the Congress party has bungled the whole episode. According to me, if the Congress High Command had taken the right decision about the successor to Y S Rajasekhar Reddy, the Telangana agitation would not have been revived in the present catastrophic form. After all, Chandrasekhar Rao is not a Gandhiji to lead his followers into an agitation engulfing the whole of Telangana. Then who’s behind it? Your guess is as good as mine.

    A word about the neglect and non-development of Teleangana which is the basic cause for the demand of separate Telangana. This is partially true, because the whole development of the State was focused on Hyderabad which is in the heart of Telangana.
    But then it was outsiders who were milking the cow who behaved like feudal lords and are known for their habit of kicking the ladder.

    About the author :

    Mr P.N.V.Nair Deccan Chronicle

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  39. @Adithya,
    You can show many reason's why Telangana state not to be formed. We can show more that many reason's why we want our own state.
    The main reason is if Telangana people believe that we can't stay together with Seemaandhra then that is more than enough. We got this constitutional right given by Government of India during the forceful merger in 1956. If you respect the treaty then I don't think you will argue again on this topic.
    You should show us the reason's why we should be together but don't show reason why shouldn't separate. When we have very bad relation its better to be separated. Don't forget it was forceful merger in 1956 and we got right to decide when to go not you.

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  40. //Initially, he supported the statehood movement. That was a historical blunder,

    As of my knowledge, Mr. Naidu still saying that his party didn't stepped down from what they promised to people in the election.

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  41. aditya:

    What are the options? Vijayawada or Visakhapatnam? Or go back to Kurnool?

    Usually I refrain from discussing how Seemandhras will go about creating their new state. I believe it is their internal matter and I have tried my best not to discuss it here on this forum. However, I will make an exception here – for once. These are only opinions – mere speculations.

    There could be a division between Andhra and Rayalaseema people once Telangana is formed. Right now, there are united in their cause but once Telangana is formed, hard questions will be asked, cracks of divisions will appear. To start with, where will be the new capital?

    Rayalaseema is quite underdeveloped; in some cases the situation is far worse than in Telangana. If the capital city is in the Andhra region, Seema people may not agree. They may feel like they lost out in the whole deal. If Kurnool was indeed the capital back then and remained so, they would have had a nice big city by now, which they lost out to Hyderabad. Therefore, they would definitely argue for capital city to be based in Rayalaseema.

    On the other hand, Andhras would have lost a major city twice, Chennai to Tamils, Hyderabad to Telanganas. This time around, they would want to make sure they don’t spend their energies in another capital city which they may lose eventually. They would definitely fight for basing the capital city inside Andhra.

    This fight could spiral into another state movement by Seema people. It is possible Jagan may spearhead it. It is possible UPA will actually welcome it, because then Jagan will be cut in size. As I said, these are mere speculations.

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  42. Loss to Hyderabads IT industry 2009-10 my estimate at 500 crores, Loss to Hyderabads Global IT image from Satyams Ramalingarajus 7000 crore scam - 100 times than that of Telengana.

    Think if one greedy Andhra Capitalist can cause that much harm to Hyderabad how much damage 10 lakh greedy Andhra Settlers can cause.

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  43. Dont know why Andhra Capitalists in Hyd are still supporting Samyakhandhra , a Prolonged Telengana agitation will be against their own business interests, May be they are Paranoid and really Paranoid and think of Telenganites as Barbarians Ready to attack Rome(hyd).

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  44. If andhra settlers make a EXODUS from Hyderabad it may be painful for the economy for first few years, but gradually TG people from other districts will fill up the vaccum,(think if Karimnagar now could claim Highest paddy produce in the state from the paltry waters from canals of SRSP) think how much other TG districts would gain if granted good Irrigation in the new state.

    This could give rise to a new class of entreprenaurs from telangana.

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  45. Aditya:
    "After the division, shifting and relocation, Hydrabad city will be left with the Musi river!"

    If anyone thinks that all the development in Hyderabad has helped people of Telangana, that would be not be true.

    I don't have to go too far. I work for a Multi-national company that has about 1000 employees in their Hyderabad office. When I visited that office for a few weeks, I could hardly find anyone from Telangana region (language being my basis). The first Telangana guys I encountered were the cleaning/tea boys. There are probably about 5% from Telangana, about 2% Muslims, about 15% from other Indian regions and the rest from Andhra region. I don't believe the company itself encourages discrimination in any way but discrimination does happens nevertheless. I won't say that the reason for such low numbers from Telangana region is low because of discrimination, there certainly aren't enough eligible candidates from the region, which in turn is because of social and economic backwardness.

    My point is that if the so called development moves away from Hyderabad, it would'nt hurt Telangana that much as it never helped it (proportionally) in the first place.

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  46. My heartfelt condolences to civil rights activist and Telangana supporter Kannabhiran

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  47. The term "settler" seems to have been overused and abused on this forum. According to WikiPedia, the word "settler" has several meanings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler). One among them is
    "settlers live on land which previously belonged to long-established peoples, known as indigenous people (often called "natives", "Aborigines" or, in the Americas, "Indians"). This land is usually settled against the wishes of the indigenes, and then controlled, defended and expanded by force, or it is bought or leased from indigenous people on terms highly favourable to the settlers, sometimes under a treaty (e.g. the Treaty of Waitangi in New Zealand). In some cases (such as Australia), the legal ownership of some lands is contested much later by indigenous people, who seek or claim traditional usage, land rights, native title and related forms of ownership or partial control."


    So if you guys consider yourself to be called as "aborigines" , "natives" or "indians" then I have no problem to be called as a "settler". Otherwise I request you to stop using that term in the best interest of all.

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  48. Otherwise I request you to stop using that term in the best interest of all.

    If you think that word means abusive to you, why don't you guys come up with some other word which feels good about yourselves? We have no intension to abuse any one, we use that word to differentiate the 'Seemandra people in Telangana' from Telangana natives.

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  49. Looks like the word "Settler" has been overused and abused on this forum. According to WikiPedia, the meaning of settler goes like this

    "n almost every real historical case, settlers live on land which previously belonged to long-established peoples, known as indigenous people (often called "natives", "Aborigines" or, in the Americas, "Indians"). This land is usually settled against the wishes of the indigenes, and then controlled, defended and expanded by force, or it is bought or leased from indigenous people on terms highly favourable to the settlers, sometimes under a treaty (e.g. the Treaty of Waitangi in New Zealand). In some cases (such as Australia), the legal ownership of some lands is contested much later by indigenous people, who seek or claim traditional usage, land rights, native title and related forms of ownership or partial control."


    So if seemandhra people are "settlers" then people from telangana should be called as "Aborigines".

    Would you guys agree to be called "Aborigines" ?

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  50. @GreenStar
    If you think that word means abusive to you, why don't you guys come up with some other word which feels good about yourselves? We have no intension to abuse any one, we use that word to differentiate the 'Seemandra people in Telangana' from Telangana natives.

    The answer is in your statement itself. What else is there to differentiate when you are already differentiating them as seemandhra and telangana ?

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  51. The answer is in your statement itself. What else is there to differentiate when you are already differentiating them as seemandhra and telangana ?

    You mean to say when ever we want to talk about them then we need to address them as "తెలంగాణకు వలస వచ్చిన సీమంద్రులు" ? Dont you think thats a big word? I am looking for some thing smaller, so that easy to use every time.

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  52. @Greenstar
    You mean to say when ever we want to talk about them then we need to address them as "తెలంగాణకు వలస వచ్చిన సీమంద్రులు" ? Dont you think thats a big word? I am looking for some thing smaller, so that easy to use every time.

    Well you call us "settlers" and call yourselves as "Aborigines". That settles the matter for conversations in English

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  53. The picture is far from clear. But from the trends we can see that we are headed towards either HYD being 1) a UT status with or without it being a second capital or 2) a shared capital.

    The reasons are too compulsive for that not to happen - politically and otherwise.

    Just numbers will tell anyone that muslims (40%), seemaandhras (25%), the hindi-marathi-kannada-otherlanguage speaking ilk (10%) and at least 10% of HYD telanganites (otherwise called drohulu or traitors) want HYD as a UT. Of course MIM and HYD telanganites like Danam Nagender and Mukesh Goud want a separate state and only time will say how that rolls out.

    The SKC will put to rest (or so we think) the issue of injustice, looting etc. Once its proved there was nothing like that the solution boils down to just "sentiment".

    And once it comes down to "sentiment" HYD status as being different is just inevitable.

    Of course if SKC states that there was injustice etc then the trajectory could be different.

    From 6th of Jan I feel a new dialogue will begin that will shape the future of this state and the agitation.

    And like I always have stated don't think HYD cannot become a UT or a shared capital with UT status because of land-lockedness etc - Pondicherry which is in three states and in four pieces is a clear example.

    Pondicherry had a different history which led to its status. What we are seeing now will be the history why HYD will conclude to a status of UT or separate state or common capital as much as TG's formation looks inevitable. Actually I feel that Mahboobnagar may end up getting merged with the new state of HYD.

    Though common capital is something that I am not comfortable with - it just gives rise to a possibility of an other conflict in the future.

    But anyway my comfortableness need not matter. Leaving that alone this is the way I see things rolling out (what with Chidambaram talking of 2 representatives from each party; the democratic process; signs of clamping down on media; the deployment of forces and more importantly that the report itself will be made public on the internet.

    Making the report public at this juncture while the debate is still progressing is itself a good pointer.

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  54. And add to the above the comment made by the SKC recently that the "majority" will be kept happy and earlier that the SKC had said that "some will be unhappy".

    Disclaimer: This is only my reading and I fully realize that I could be horribly wrong. I also realize that my objectiveness could be tainted by my subjectiveness.

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  55. Well you call us "settlers" and call yourselves as "Aborigines".

    You can start calling us "Aborigines", score settles. 'settlers' may be an english word, we use many english words in our daily life.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Settler_%28disambiguation%29

    As per the above line the 'settler' means Settlers are people who have migrated from the land of their birth, I dont see any wrong with this meaning !!

    http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/m_en_gb0758700#m_en_gb0758700

    Oxford meaning, a person who settles in an area, typically one with no or few previous inhabitants. I dont see with this meaning too.

    So, why dont you take my meanings for settler? Why do you have to take bad meaning?

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  56. Just numbers will tell anyone that muslims (40%),

    Your argument is wrong, in combined HYD/Sec'bad there are around 40% of Muslims (according to the latest census), and every one knows that not all Muslims are against to Telangana formation, so your argument proved wrong.

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  57. >>Pondicherry which is in three states and in four pieces

    పాడిందే పాదర పాసు పళ్ళ దాసరి ...

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  58. Separate HYD or taking out the HYD from Telangana is out of question. Central govt know how expensive it is to give a package to new state to develop there new capital. I am sure they dont want to give that huge package to two new states.

    Any way dividing HYD from Telangana is just a idea on the paper, there is no public demand.

    Even MIM never asked for separate HYD or something like that.

    Never going to happen.

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  59. I see this as a sensational ploy by Sujai to attract and get recruited by news channels as reporter/reader. Looks like he cannot just wait for few days to see what they have to say. Btw, I support Indian Army cleaning up the dirt on the streets of Hyderabad. Lets see how the politicians and student leaders, who they are ready to face bullets for T state, will face the army. One question though: will sujai just confine himself to boosting the morale of T agitators or will he step on the ground and participate in fighting the Indian state?

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  60. @Andhrites

    <<Well you call us "settlers" and call yourselves as "Aborigines".


    The problem is that Andhra "settlers" think of the "Natives" and treat them as "aborignies".
    One more reason to kick you Out.

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  61. @Aravind

    <<< Btw, I support Indian Army cleaning up the dirt on the streets of Hyderabad.

    Indian Army is not "Andhra" police and unlike andhra settlers doesnt consider their fellow citizens as "Dirt".

    If you compare Telengana people as "dirt", we will be forced to treat Andhra Settlers as a "Parasitic" problem that needs to be "exterminated".


    And Moron the central forces deployed in Telangana are not Indian army but poorly trained illiterate Paramilitaries Conscripted from Slums of UP and Bihar. Any Telenganite with a 5 week Infantry training , ( or alteast handling fire arms) can Beat the best of Indian Army( we got a 100 year experience in Guerrilla warfare and low intensity Urban Combat)

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  62. SKC report leaked! The statistics from Govt of AP, corroborated by the panel's extensive tours all over AP, soundly conclude that Telangana region has greatly progressed even more than the other 2 regions of AP and is in now in equal or better shape than other regions in most aspects of development.

    So, we recommend that all the existing special regional quotas in education (local non-local), jobs, politics (CM and deputy CM etc) and differentiation in all other areas be buried in the annals of history and start a fresh new chapter where free market, free ideas reign. Special package should be announced to improve irrigation/ industry in Mehbubnagar Dist in Telangana and backward regions of rest of AP.

    Cons:
    1) Hate mongers and extremist separatists will either become jobless or clueless.

    Pros: Can I borrow couple of additional sheets please? :)

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  63. I’ve reading with full of interest. He’s certainly raised my awareness.

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  64. @Aditya
    The problem is that Andhra "settlers" think of the "Natives" and treat them as "aborignies".
    One more reason to kick you Out.


    Why don't you give it a try and see the consequence?

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  65. Great culmination to the bunch of lies you propagate. You prove you are not only a moron but a great joker with your funny tickle :)

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  66. Saw ,Just now on ETV2

    SKC member Ravinder Kaur saying that most regions in AP are progressing well.

    She also says that AP needs more cities.

    One thing is clear ,SKC will make it clear that there is no looting by Andhras. All the allegations by separtists will now be treated as trash.

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  67. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/soutikbiswas/2010/12/india_trouble_in_the_new_year.html

    "Of the 34 districts in India which face acute farm distress, nine are in Telangana."

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  68. "Of the 34 districts in India which face acute farm distress, nine are in Telangana."

    Who compiled this list? What are the factors that they considered.

    And doesnt it contradict with adityas above statement :

    "think if Karimnagar now could claim Highest paddy produce in the state from the paltry waters from canals of SRSP "

    So is Karimnagar part of that 9 districts ?

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  69. Who compiled this list? What are the factors that they considered.

    You can write a letter to BBC.

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  70. "You can write a letter to BBC. "

    Dear sujai , Arent you the one who used to say that statistics cannot be taken on face value , we need the entire picture.

    But of course , this rule does not apply in case of stats which support telangana.

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  71. She also says that AP needs more cities.

    I think they are talking about the new capital for Seemandra. :)

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  72. As much as I think about the future steps, I think Congress is going to go for Telanganana formation.

    If they give.
    1. They or their ally TRS may sweep the MP/MLAs in Telangana
    2. Andhra and Seema will fight for new capital so they go for another bifurcation. That way congress can restrict Babu and Jagan to small area(Rayala seema). They can win back the Andhra with a good package. Babu and Jagan will fight to hell in that four districts.

    If they dont give.
    1. Congress loose completely in Telangana, and loose SeemAndhra for Jagan/TDP.

    So much for Seemandra for blackmailing the central govt with there mass resignations. Smaller states are always better for central because smaller states are weak to challenge the central decisions.

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  73. @Nameless
    <<<think if Karimnagar now could claim Highest paddy produce in the state from the paltry waters from canals of SRSP "
    So is Karimnagar part of that 9 districts ?


    Yes according to Central govt, Karimnagar is a drought Prone area and is part of that 9 districts

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  74. @Andhrites
    <<@Aditya
    The problem is that Andhra "settlers" think of the "Natives" and treat them as "aborignies".
    One more reason to kick you Out.
    Why don't you give it a try and see the consequence?


    CONSEQUENCE ? Please dont make jokes. What consequence did Tamils face when they Kicked your andhra asses out of Chennai.
    The Andhras left in Chennai are Still afraid even to speak "telugu"(So much for your telugu Pride).
    Dont your Andhras Learn any lessons why dont you build your own city, you were kicked out of Chennai once,you are going to be kicked out of Hyderabad soon and I think if U establish your capital in Kurnool they will kick u out too.

    Instead of Milking Dry other peoples cities why dont you Build your own cities. Losers

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  75. I dontknow if Telangana will be granted or Not But Iam sure of one thing : If Telangana is not granted the Agitation will continue and wreak Havoc on the economy of Hyderabad and Andhrapradesh, Its almost a Miracle that So far No Settlers Lives were harmed but I dont think the Future will be so bright.

    And Telangana combined with Jagans Effect has the Potential to Dethrone the UPA.

    The reason Congress is in Such a Bad shape is Because, Sonia Gandhi's Cabal (aka Central committee ) is made of a Bunch of Incompetent old men who's main Qualification for the Job is that they are Ass-kissers of Gandhi family.

    I think the only "wise guy" in the Central committee is National Security Advisor Shiv Shenkar Menon I think Sonia will Gandhi will listen to his advice about Telangana.

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  76. @wiki
    CONSEQUENCE ? Please dont make jokes. What consequence did Tamils face when they Kicked your andhra asses out of Chennai.

    You must read the history. Actually it was other way around. Andhra people willfully and forcefully separated themselves from TN. Your ilk has been screaming about this all along.

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  77. Very nice Sujai.
    I liked ur articles.
    They have very much depth in them.

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  78. @wiki
    even after we seperated from tn, more than 30% of the businesses in chennai are by us.especially t nagar is totally telugu speaking area.
    i dont know whether you had seen or not but long ago in doordarshan they used to have programmes telecasted by madras telugu academy whioch had and even now has large membership.
    many telugu films ran for 100+ days in chennai

    dayachesi koncham facts telusukuni matladandi

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  79. @wiki
    Instead of Milking Dry other peoples cities why dont you Build your own cities. Losers
    memu losers aithe age 30+ vachina inka college lo chadive ou jac vallani emanali?
    same q we can also ask you, instead of blaming others for your lack if developmet, why dont the educated people of your region, esp NRIs start their own firms and develop llocal economy?
    why isnt there a chain of travel agencies like kaleswari/kesineni or textile shops like chandana brothers in various districts of telangana?

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  80. and ya,
    talking about chennai, your "ramulamma" vijayashanthi has her it returns adress in chennai only.
    if you think telugus in chennai lead b grade life or were kicked out, i only pity you because i have experienced that city and can say that what you are saying is far far away from the truth

    anyway, wish u and your family a very happy and prosperous new yr

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  81. why dont the educated people of your region, esp NRIs start their own firms and develop llocal economy?
    why isnt there a chain of travel agencies like kaleswari/kesineni or textile shops like chandana brothers in various districts of telangana?


    I dont know what you know about the Telangana agitation.

    We are not worried about chandana brothers or charma's. We are not asking your private business mans to open a branch in various Telangana locations. We are all asking is our rightful representation in various govt. activities like govt. jobs, resource allocations, projects.

    If there is a good infrastructure, then private business will come to that location and help to grow that place. Just like HYD. It is Govt. responsibility to develop good infrastructure.

    As per the merging agreement, the tax collected in Telangana must be spent in Telangana. The jobs reserved for Telangan people must be filled up with Telangana people. Govt should build irrigation projects in Telangan so that Telangan people enjoy water resources just like how Andhra is enjoying now.

    I asked these questions for past 55 years, and we lost hope that you will listen to us on one fine day.

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  82. i only pity you because i have experienced that city and can say that what you are saying is far far away from the truth

    if so... what's that all rant about there is no security for Seemandras in Telangana? Why dont you guys expect the same from Telangan@ for the settlers in Telangana?

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  83. @green star
    im no way against to the bifurcation of ap but, as long as its foundation itself is onm hatred, is it justified?
    meere alochinchandi

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  84. I never see any Andhra person who believes in Samaikya never gives reason why we should be together. If you guys wants us to be in same state try to convince us why we should be together, How do you correct your mistakes. It's not the way always question us. We will question you every time and you should be in position in giving answer. But this never happened and this show how cunning you guys are. All you want is yours and your own Andhra people benefits.
    Don't bring your shitty question to us. We don't want to waste our time in answering you. Enough is enough. If you are educated person you should have understood this long time back. We can't convince a foolish person.

    Jai Telangana.
    Jai Jai Telangana.

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  85. its foundation itself is onm hatred, is it justified?

    I agree. So what do you expect from us?

    There was no rejection from Seemandra when all major political parties promised Telangana formation in last assembly elections. We worked our ass off to get a statement from central govt, all of sudden you play a drama of United Andhra crap and try making all our work to ash? Do you expect us to love you?

    Just because few settlers are living peacefully in HYD, you claim to separate HYD from Telangana? What about other thousands of settlers in other districts like Nizamabad, Warangal? After we watching your crual plan, do you still want us to love you?

    You call us Naxalites, Talibans and demand us to love you?

    The only clan from Telangana who give aggressive statements against Seemandras are TRS, and Telangana people gave them a miserable election failure in all assembly elections. You still apply there statements as whole Telangana people's statement and accuse us, you still want us to love you?

    You gave us so many problems in past five decades just because you are in majority, an you want us to love you?

    (here you = Seemandra )

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  86. @green star
    hatred for seemandhra started the day kcr uittered bhaago jaago
    it was much befor his fast.
    had he not uttered that im sure samaikya andra wouldnt have started.
    ayina mimmalni ani laabham enti
    manasu ninda samaikya vaadam pettukuni dec 10thna u turn teesukunnayi kada
    mundu maa prantham tdp congress vallani pattukuni thannali

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  87. What would be the steps taken if Indian government announces formation of our statehood on 6th January. Any idea?


    ps: Please igone Andhra people's negative comments. They just want to time pass

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  88. manasu ninda samaikya vaadam pettukuni dec 10thna u turn teesukunnayi kada
    mundu maa prantham tdp congress vallani pattukuni thannali


    I asked this many times to our dear Seemandra friends. I havent get any response about this from them. I always surprise that Seemandra@ always accuse a 10MLA party for trying to divide the state but they dont accuse much the other parties which also trying to divide the state and enjoying 100+ MLAs.

    hatred for seemandhra started the day kcr uittered bhaago jaago
    See.... that is where the problem is, you seemandras keep complain about a leader who has no public support (atleast till Dec-10th where you back stabbed Telangan). Why do you expect us to take responsibility for his statements where we keep rejecting him from past decade?

    World will call Chinees fools if they took Mr. Chandrababu threats seriously and declare war on India. Because Chandrababu is not a Indian representative. Indian people didnt elected him to talk on behalf of India. Same applies to KCR too.

    Any way....about his jago bago..

    This is another false propaganda made by Seemandra and there media. Yes he said 'jago bago', but that is not his full statement, if you cut a big statement and took the words what ever you want then the sentence meaning itself changes. As of I know in one of the Telangana employees meeting they complained to KCR that many of Telangana reserved jobs are occupied by Seemandras illegally, KCR said they will work against it and do not rest until those illegal occupants are transferred from Telangana and now onwards our slogan is 'Telangana Jago, Andhra Bhago'. The media and SA leaders purposefully ignored the context of the statement and pictured it in a way that he mean physical bago.

    Even though I dont like TRS, I want to defend them on this statement because what ever the seemanra@ picturing about this statement is not true.

    Any way if you find any video evidence which proves otherwise, please do let me know.

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  89. What would be the steps taken

    Not sure about the Govt. I tell you what I want to do first...

    I go to tankbund remove those statues which has no relation to Telangana, pack them carefully and ship them to Lagadapati, or Jagan.

    Lagadapati: Prakasam Barrage is very near to him, and he loves Telugu so much, so he may convert the barage to another Tankbund.

    Jagan: He can help in installing them some other place as he has lots of experience and the only champion till date in installing statues in record time.

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  90. @green star
    does gandhi, nehru have any relation to telangana?

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  91. First aite Andhra kesari vigrahamu teeseyale. Andhra ki sambandinchina andari vigrahalu teesipadeyale

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  92. does gandhi, nehru have any relation to telangana?

    As long as TG is part of India, we do have relation to Gandhi and Nehru. Any way Nehru(or his govt.) is the reason we are free from Nijam.

    Any way, I refrain my statement.

    I want to remove all the statues which has relations to only Seemandra. For ex. Sir. Cotton.

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  93. @sunil reddy
    andhra kesari bared his chest to britishers and asked them to shoot him.
    he faught for the freedom of INDIA and not just a particular state or region

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  94. he faught for the freedom of INDIA and not just a particular state or region

    No arguments about that. But there are hundreds or even thousands of freedom fighters in India with Prakasam level. Just because he belongs to Andhra he became a famous to us, I dont surprise if rest of the India doesn't know him at all. Once TG state forms we respect him in a way like how other states respect him. But no statues for us....

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  95. andhra kesari bared his chest to britishers and asked them to shoot him.

    Off topic...
    Do you know one thing? When andhra state was formed, Andhra@ are threatened the Kesari that they will destroy his statue because Kesari accepted Andhra state with Karnoon as capital. (andhra@ wanted a Andhra city as capital). I think Andhra@ even made that Kesari to apologize to Andhra people.

    That how Andhra@ respected the Kesari.

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  96. We will have Telangana freedom fighters, poets and National leaders (not anyone from Andhra).
    Anabheri Prabhakar Rao, K. V. Ranga Reddy, Raavi Narayan Reddy, Baddam Ella Reddy, J.V. Narsinga Rao, Kaloji, etc.. who were neglected under Andhra pradesh.
    We will get rid off history books that are thought in school and add only Indian freedom struggle and Telangana struggle.

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  97. In the early summer of 1945 a 52-year-old prisoner arrived at Mondorf-les-Bains, a town in Luxembourg that included an American detention center for suspected war criminals. The prisoner, dragging 49 suitcases, gem-encrusted jewelry, gold cigarette cases, precious watches and nearly the entire world’s supply of the narcotic paracodeine, had surrendered to Allied officials several weeks earlier. After a dozen years in which he held nearly unchecked power and could demand anything he desired, he now occupied a small cell furnished only with a toilet, bed, chair and table. The bloody collapse of the Third Reich, whose Nazi government he now represented as the highest-ranking captive, had left him a leader without followers, a commander without fighters, anda prisoner accused of murdering millions and commit­ting other crimes against humanity.

    “I know I shall hang,” Hermann Goering said from his prison cell. “But in 50 or 60 years there will be statues of me all over Germany”

    Does this remind of you KCR, KTR and Kavita. And doesn't the Nazi party remind of you TRS.

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  98. Andhra People know that Tamilnadu people will dominate them and their cunning nature will not work in front of Tamil people so they demanded separate state. Once they came out they see a resource rich Telangana and want to have it and so they merged and don't want to leave Telangana doesn't it look similar to British raj where look for opportunity to rule for their own benefits.

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  99. @sunil
    alagaithe north vallaki gandhi nehru, patel, bhagath singh and azad tappa vere evvaru freedom fighters teliyaru.
    vallaki telisina rajulu akbar ashoka and rana prataph.
    kakatiyula gurinchi kaani, krishna devaraya, cholas, pallavas, veella gurinchi north lo okkallaki kooda teliyadu
    wat say about that?
    and i read your blog where u mentioned about 2 freinds having misunderstandings and treating each others as strangers.
    strangersga treat cheste evvaru emi anaru kaani misunderstanding vachindi kabatti ninnu champesta bhago jaago ani aa frend ante adhe assalu correct kaadu.

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  100. Does this remind of you KCR, KTR and Kavita. And doesn't the Nazi party remind of you TRS.

    Another anti-TRS clown in wrong place?

    Why dont you ask the same question to Mr.Chandra Babu for boosting/creating a hope of Telangana formation by supporting it?

    Who is against to Telangana? CBN? Sonia? Advani? who really? So all are like Nazis? If so, isn't you the part of people who elected these leaders? Is that mean you supported Nazi kind leaders?

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  101. I feel Telangana would be given but without Hyd. Instead special package will be given to Telangana for new captial.
    Whatever may be the result, i feel Teleanga will have good days for atleast another "10" years even though Telangana is not given. After 10 years kukka toka vankara annattu Andhra again start playing Jai Andhra Game.
    Now its very easy to start these kind of movements by our so called capitalist corrupted leaders
    Jai Hindi
    Jai Telangana

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  102. misunderstanding vachindi kabatti ninnu champesta bhago jaago ani aa frend ante adhe assalu correct kaadu.

    అవును అన్న, కరెక్టే, మాది తప్పే, mis-understanding వస్తే జాగో, బాగో అనొద్దు కాని, తాలిబాను, టెర్రరిస్టులు, నక్సలైట్లు, తాగుబాతులు, సోమరి పోతులూ అని అనొచ్చు. కదా? బలే చెప్పవన్నా

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  103. @anonymous
    Asalu North varaku yenduku pootanavu.
    Ikkada unna Andhra vallu yepudaina Telangana freedom fighters gurunchi telusa? Pustakalalla rasindra? Cheritra chepindra...
    Chepedi sriranga neetulu chesedi gudsed panulu.
    Yeppudu Andhrolaku meemu tinnade great, mee chesinde great, maavole great antaru kani yeppudaina vere valla gurunchi chpindra.

    Just think about for a minute. have you ever read history of Telangana eventhough we are in same state. Have you ever read historic places of Telangana and pilgrim places, food, leaders, righters, etc....

    Headlines matrame chadive tola toni ide problem KCR jaago lekunte Bhagoo ane news matrame chadivi okka conclusion ki vaste yetla. KCR ye context la annadu asalu deniki annadu chusudu ledu. Okka aa padam pattukoni HYD la unna Androlanu yeppudaina tannidra..

    Inka Samaikya Andhra annapudu Kurnool la Telangana vallanu tannidru. Samaikyam ani annolu yekkadaina tantara.

    Aite motham telsukovale lekunte sapudeka kusunte manchigunte. Yetu kaakunte telsukunte gide problem

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  104. Does this remind of you KCR, KTR and Kavita. And doesn't the Nazi party remind of you TRS.

    Another anti-TRS clown in wrong place?

    Why dont you ask the same question to Mr.Chandra Babu for boosting/creating a hope of Telangana formation by supporting it?

    Who is against to Telangana? CBN? Sonia? Advani? who really? So all are like Nazis? If so, isn't you the part of people who elected these leaders? Is that mean you supported Nazi kind leaders?


    Think of that picture when Harish Rao poured yellow water and later said that he couldn't find a matchbox.

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  105. The time has come from truths. It will start with SKC on internet on 6th.

    And then we will know that Ishant Reddy was not suicide but murder.

    We will know many things.

    Like Hargopal sir himself said "these are interesting times.

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  106. Ikkada unna Andhra vallu yepudaina Telangana freedom fighters gurunchi telusa?

    Untill Dec-9th I do not know that the AP formation day means the merge of Telangana and SeemAndhra. I was in the impression that that was the day we(current AP) divided from Madras. My parents also in the same impression as I do. I asked many of my friends, surprisingly none so far know the real scene behind the AP formation day. So I can safely say that before Dec-9th around 95% of current generation people doesnt know the actual meaning of AP formation day. Doesnt it bad when we have a subject called 'Social Studies' in our school and every one studied it atleast 6-7 years? What kind of teaching it is if you dont know your true history?

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  107. Think of that picture when Harish Rao poured yellow water and later said that he couldn't find a matchbox.


    Okey I am thinking, whats next?

    Looks like you forgot your way back to mental hospital. Let me explain you again.

    This is not a TRS blog, and this blog is not associated with TRS. And no TRS fans are here.

    Whole country is behind the Nazi at that time. Here only 2 out of 545 MPs are behind the TRS. There is no comparison at all.

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  108. Greenstar: "Untill Dec-9th I do not know that the AP formation day means the merge of Telangana and SeemAndhra.

    There are lot of things that were taught to us in school that is basically Andhra culture and were made to believe that it is culture too. I always wondered what why the text books say Sankranthi or Ugadi or Dasara is celebrated in a certain way in Andhra Pradesh. In reality, I found no co-relation to reality at all. In telangana things are celebrated very differently and always wondered if we are doing things wrongly.

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  109. Whole country is behind the Nazi at that time. Here only 2 out of 545 MPs are behind the TRS. There is no comparison at all.

    Exactly why those BSF etc forces are needed. Thanks that Indian Democracy is working. It will be crushed. BJP is actually the nazi.

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  110. Exactly why those BSF etc forces are needed. Thanks that Indian Democracy is working. It will be crushed.

    That's right. But that BJP thing may not be right.

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  111. i remeber we used to have festivals sankranit and Ugadi as lessons in Telugu. Even Atla tadde, i was wondering why we were not celebrating that.
    But they never mentioned Dasara. Lessons were there about Potti Sri ramulu which never mention about his fight for Madras, it just talks about telugu state.
    Even i had lessons like Durga Bhai and Praksam.

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  112. Exactly why those BSF etc forces are needed.

    The central forces are here when Telangana fighting with Nizam, the central forces are here when seemandras@ are rampaging on the name of Andhra state formation, the central forces are here when Telangana want to form a separate state in 1969, the central forces are here when Seemandra want to demerge in 1972, the central forces are here now because Seemandra blackmailing the central govt. with there mass resignations and opposing there decision to bifurcate the state.

    Democracy is still working, thats why central govt want to exercise the constitution right(Article-3) and you are the enemy to it who opposing it.

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  113. Even Atla tadde,...
    I studied in Vijayawada/Guntur for 6 years, I have many Seemandra friends here at my work place. So far I met no one, who celebrate Atla tadde. But still it made to text books.

    Here in Telangana, almost every family(few people exception who living in cities) celebrate Batukamma, still it has no luck.

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  114. Same thing for Hindi. IN some schools hindi was not taught till 7th class.
    Later they alerted the pass marks for hindi to 21. I was always wondering why it happened.

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  115. The issue here is like this. I may be mighty wrong and I would like the intelligentsia of this blog to respond.

    1. This is your chance in 2011 (so to speak at-least politically). And I am saying this on the new year eve. If its till 2014 the party's will change their manifestoes.

    2. If you give up Hyderabad and allow it to be an UT well and good (with mehboobnagar and/or nalgonda as well). You will have your state with a fat package. If you dont agree agree till 2014 the party's will change their manifestoes.

    3. Or it will go on and get extended with forces etc and its not going to be a nice scene for everyone. The state will go on with its march. If its till 2014 the party's will change their manifestoes.

    4. No amount of resigning is going to change anything as the "majority" works in a democracy. If we want to curse seema-andhras or boorgula that will still not change anything. If its dragged till 2014 then manifestoes will change of all the parties. KCR/TRS will come to power and he will just negotiate power. Everyone knows that.

    5. The heritage of crushing razakars one should not forget got support from Andhrites and Indian army. So that's just big talk and rhetoric. If its dragged till 2014 then manifestoes will change of all the parties. KCR/TRS will come to power and he will just negotiate power. Everyone knows that.

    6th Jan is the day when we see the BIG thing.

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  117. If its dragged till 2014 then manifestoes will change of all the parties.

    Well, we change the party too, this new party will sweep the Telangana and there will be continues hung in state assembly. State will be forcefully pulled into presidential rule. State economic state will be crippled. Finally state will be forcefully bifurcated only to see that Seemandra is behand 6-7 years building there new capital.

    మేము నిండా మునిగాము, మాకు చలేంటి. మాతో పాటు మునగాలని కోరికగా ఉంటె, అలాగే కానివ్వండి .

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  118. Exactly why those BSF etc forces are needed.

    The central forces are here when Telangana fighting with Nizam, the central forces are here when seemandras@ are rampaging on the name of Andhra state formation, the central forces are here when Telangana want to form a separate state in 1969, the central forces are here when Seemandra want to demerge in 1972, the central forces are here now because Seemandra blackmailing the central govt. with there mass resignations and opposing there decision to bifurcate the state.

    Democracy is still working, thats why central govt want to exercise the constitution right(Article-3) and you are the enemy to it who opposing it.


    Democracy is still working and that is why some can support to it and some can oppose to it and that is what is democracy. Are you dense?

    Democracy is about normalizing opposing opinions not agreeing with goons who want to blackmail with violence or having a syndrome like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

    Anyway let SKC take its course.

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  119. @ Green Star

    Sir we already have TRS - a OK party at many levels leaving at the top.

    Why a new party?

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  120. Why a new party?

    Because as you said KCR/TRS will come to power and he will just negotiate power. Everyone knows that. and we dont want that.

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  121. @ Green Star

    I think all of you should support TRS. Maybe we should change the top leadership. Do you agree?

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  122. @Green Star

    For example guys like suman from Osmania JAC are like Gandhi. He is a shining example of perfection which none of us can match. Shuld we replace him with KCR for example.

    I think Suman is a great leader that we all should follow without any dispute.

    Even Sujai is small compared to him. Sujai is like the brain who talks and thinks. But Suman is action.

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  123. I think all of you should support TRS. Maybe we should change the top leadership. Do you agree?

    I am not interested in talking about TRS or there political aims. I dont like TRS at all.

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  124. I think all of you should support TRS. Maybe we should change the top leadership. Do you agree?

    I am not interested in talking about TRS or there political aims. I dont like TRS at all.


    It will do well for you to note that it is because of TRS and Suman that you have come to this stage that you can speak so much and fight.

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  125. It will do well for you to note that it is because of TRS and Suman that you have come to this stage that you can speak so much and fight.

    TRS? nah...

    Suman? may be .. I dont know much about him.

    Do you know whats the meaning of catalyst? TRS is catalyst here, that means he helps for reaction but do not involve in in the reaction. We are the foot solders on the ground who involved in the reaction. One way or other, the reaction will be completed, catalyst only helps to start/speed-up the process/reaction.

    If you like Suman, go head and follow him, but dont force your like on me.

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  126. The above is bullshit...it is all one side story or pro-telangana. The reality will be out on 6th Jan 2011. If central government want to split the state then they will pay big price for it.

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  127. Democracy is about normalizing opposing opinions not agreeing with goons

    Every one knows who started the violence. Until you started the violence whole state is fine. It is you started agitating against central govt decision(the decision which took only after talking to all political representation) and started blackmailing the govt by mass resignations. It is your leaders backstabbed central govt by taking the U turn and they are the reason for all this violence. Central forces are here, they will give a good lesson to all of them who try to black mail again.

    This is not the first time for you, you did the same black mail in 1972 and dragged the entire state into Presidential Rule. Shame on you.

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  128. The reality will be out on 6th Jan 2011. If central government want to split the state then they will pay big price for it.

    That is what called Seemandras double standards. At one side they keep saying that they trust the SKC and truth will come out on 6th. On the other side, they say they reject SKC if the report is favor to Telangana.

    So what exactly they are expecting? Truth? or anti telangana report?

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  129. Why no one responds to comments about Lambada settler-job-grabbers.

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  130. Why no one responds to comments about Lambada settler-job-grabbers.

    Its been long back responded/answered.

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  131. Not really. The answer aditya gave was that the lambadas have merged culturally into Telangana. But that is not true. They have their own language, habits, food, festivals and to top it all live in their own thandas and now want the thandas to be recognized as panchayats distincvt from the village where they have put up. and they get ST status in AP. They don't get that status anywhere else. 90% of ST seats and jobs go to them. The girijans of Telangana have been completely marginalized by the lambadas who are settlers from Rajasthan. The govt doled out acres of land to them while denying the same to local tribals.

    We have made a very exhaustive report of this running to about 50 pages and given it to the SKC. It details how in Telangana the lambadas hve cornered jobs and seats like nothing else at a very grave cost to the indigent tribals. We will be shortly putting it in the public doamin.

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  132. Lavanya, Sujai, Aditya, Green Star.

    When great expectations built on hope are dashed it can cause humongous stress. It is advisable to be prepared using prophylactics. Any local psychiatrist will do the job.

    A comment made with good faith and no malice.

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  133. Sujai,

    Have you assimilated into the Kannadiga Culture. Have all those techies in bangalore done it. Or is it the case that the Kannadigas have started to assimilate into the Bangalorean culture?

    Why should anyone seema-andhraites or others, assimilate into Hyderabadi culture. Just because you go to a city why should you change? A city like Hyderabad is not anyone's personal property. A city cannot have a 'culture'by its existence. The culture is a reflection of the people who live there. If Hdyerabd's culture has changed with the advent of seems=andhras, so shall it be. if after another 50 years it is going to change into some other culture so be it. It will change. That has been the history of life. It is silly to ask people who settle in any city/state to be asked to change their culture to that of the city/state. Why should any individual do it. Every man has a right to follow his own culture wherever he is. A state cannot impose or expect a unique culture.

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  134. who are settlers from Rajasthan.

    The response was given some time back.

    Even though they too are settlers, they hold the govt job only after they acquire the local status legally, but not like how seemandras illegally acquired. The proofs that proves the seemandras illegally acquired local status in Telangana are Girglani Report, GO610.

    When great expectations built on hope are dashed it can cause humongous stress.
    You successfully identified your symptoms, why are you wasting your time here instead of go for a medical treatment?

    Get well soon POK.

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  135. It is silly to ask people who settle in any city/state to be asked to change their culture to that of the city/state.

    WHo asked you to change your culture? We asked you not to ridicule the native culture saying your culture is superior.

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  136. Latest input on Telangana from Wikileaks.

    Centre announcing Telangana with HYD being granted UT status and the capital for both Telangana and SeeemAndhra for time being.

    Later Telangana and SeeemAndhra will have their own capitals.

    Telangana capital will be Komram Bheem and SeemaAndhra will have Ongole as capital.

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  137. It will be easy for the Central govt to Not Declare Telangana than Declaring Hyd as UT.

    wikileaks latest:

    Travel advisory for Andhra NRI' before travelling to Hyderabad they are going to be Kicked if spotted anywhere within city limits.

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  138. <<Aborgines cannot imagine beyond violence anyways ...


    Sad that your Settler Parents failed to Teach you english, Guess all those hours of learning by Rote has finally rotten your Brain( Kudos to Andhra corporate education, thanks naryana and Chaitanya)

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  139. Here is the official website of SKC

    :ccsap.gov.in/ , dwnld the report early on 6th the site will surely crash.

    Funny that the SKC doesnt find the 300 suicides in Telangana Important
    enough to Study or investigate.

    Websites are doing a better job reporting on Telengana than Our Dumbass Seemandhra media.(Rajnews included.


    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/telangana-tinderbox/732057/0

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  140. SKC report as per Times of India :

    In a setback to the campaign for Telangana, the Srikrishna committee has dismissed the argument of economic backwardness for carving out a separate state, arguing that the region compared well with other regions of Andhra Pradesh.

    The option of statehood for Telangana is low on its list of priorities. The Srikrishna panel, after a detailed analysis of district annual reports across regions, found that Telangana scored high on income generation, electricity, water and agriculture, lagging only in investment in education, with literacy rate lower than that in Coastal Andhra.

    The estimate for Telangana has been prepared without including Hyderabad which, as capital, has seen high growth and investment.

    The much-awaited report is set to be a dampener for proponents of statehood who have cited economic backwardness as the rationale for seeking division of Andhra.

    The panel, making a clutch of recommendations to settle the debate for bifurcation, has recommended that "development" be the basis for decision-making in future.

    The report will be made public on January 6 during an all-party meeting called by Union home minister P Chidambaram.

    Sources said the report states that Telangana's growth story has been positive, with the region clocking a "high rate of growth" to not just catch up with Coastal Andhra but even overtake the latter on certain parameters.

    The area of concern in Telangana is the disparity between the rich and the poor. While those with landed assets are progressing further, the poor are continuing to fall behind. The state of SC/STs and minorities requires more attention. The report, it is learnt, has found that Telangana scores high on "income generation" , largely because of higher "diversity of income" as compared to Coastal or Rayalaseema regions. The "diversity of income" sits in contrast with the largely agrarian economy of the Coastal region.

    The per capita consumption of electricity in Telangana is higher vis-a-vis other regions. It is also better off with regard to availability of water. The farm sector in Telangana seems to be doing well with high productivity. An evidence of good farm output is the growth of rice mills in the region. While Telangana has been a water-scarce pocket, the study has found that the shortage is being made up with groundwater. Irrigation projects are also coming up to supplement local requirements.


    Read more: Rich-poor disparity matter of concern in Telangana - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rich-poor-disparity-matter-of-concern-in-Telangana/articleshow/7203360.cms#ixzz19rak7LDF

    I feel pity for TG agitators

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  141. SKC report as per Times of India :

    In a setback to the campaign for Telangana, the Srikrishna committee has dismissed the argument of economic backwardness for carving out a separate state, arguing that the region compared well with other regions of Andhra Pradesh.

    The option of statehood for Telangana is low on its list of priorities. The Srikrishna panel, after a detailed analysis of district annual reports across regions, found that Telangana scored high on income generation, electricity, water and agriculture, lagging only in investment in education, with literacy rate lower than that in Coastal Andhra.

    The estimate for Telangana has been prepared without including Hyderabad which, as capital, has seen high growth and investment.

    The much-awaited report is set to be a dampener for proponents of statehood who have cited economic backwardness as the rationale for seeking division of Andhra.

    The panel, making a clutch of recommendations to settle the debate for bifurcation, has recommended that "development" be the basis for decision-making in future.

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  142. contd from previous TOI article :

    The report will be made public on January 6 during an all-party meeting called by Union home minister P Chidambaram.

    Sources said the report states that Telangana's growth story has been positive, with the region clocking a "high rate of growth" to not just catch up with Coastal Andhra but even overtake the latter on certain parameters.

    The area of concern in Telangana is the disparity between the rich and the poor. While those with landed assets are progressing further, the poor are continuing to fall behind. The state of SC/STs and minorities requires more attention. The report, it is learnt, has found that Telangana scores high on "income generation" , largely because of higher "diversity of income" as compared to Coastal or Rayalaseema regions. The "diversity of income" sits in contrast with the largely agrarian economy of the Coastal region.

    The per capita consumption of electricity in Telangana is higher vis-a-vis other regions. It is also better off with regard to availability of water. The farm sector in Telangana seems to be doing well with high productivity. An evidence of good farm output is the growth of rice mills in the region. While Telangana has been a water-scarce pocket, the study has found that the shortage is being made up with groundwater. Irrigation projects are also coming up to supplement local requirements.

    Read more: Rich-poor disparity matter of concern in Telangana - The Times of India http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rich-poor-disparity-matter-of-concern-in-Telangana/articleshow/7203360.cms#ixzz19rdaQlbw

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  143. I feel pity for TG agitators. They will need professional help after Jan 6.

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  144. TOI article contd :

    The report will be made public on January 6 during an all-party meeting called by Union home minister P Chidambaram.

    Sources said the report states that Telangana's growth story has been positive, with the region clocking a "high rate of growth" to not just catch up with Coastal Andhra but even overtake the latter on certain parameters.

    The area of concern in Telangana is the disparity between the rich and the poor. While those with landed assets are progressing further, the poor are continuing to fall behind. The state of SC/STs and minorities requires more attention. The report, it is learnt, has found that Telangana scores high on "income generation" , largely because of higher "diversity of income" as compared to Coastal or Rayalaseema regions. The "diversity of income" sits in contrast with the largely agrarian economy of the Coastal region.

    The per capita consumption of electricity in Telangana is higher vis-a-vis other regions. It is also better off with regard to availability of water. The farm sector in Telangana seems to be doing well with high productivity. An evidence of good farm output is the growth of rice mills in the region. While Telangana has been a water-scarce pocket, the study has found that the shortage is being made up with groundwater. Irrigation projects are also coming up to supplement local requirements

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  145. I posted the rest of TOI article twice , but somehow the posts are getting deleted.

    anyway, link :
    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Rich-poor-disparity-matter-of-concern-in-Telangana/articleshow/7203360.cms

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  146. @Nameless
    <<<l, after a detailed analysis of district annual reports across regions, found that Telangana scored high on income generation, electricity, water and agriculture, lagging only in investment in education, with literacy rate lower than that in Coastal Andhra.





    You dont need a "expert" committee to make those "Observations" even the fool Lagadapati came to the same stupid Conclusion.

    High electricity consumption- Due to usage of Borewells (huge current bills for our people) and Industries around RR and Medak owned buy Settlers and run by Andhra labour.
    We may have a high agricultural produce but the "Cost" for producing is High.
    Anyway SKC report is a Joke, Centre has Betrayed TG people , Settlers prepare for Backlash.( Centre is sending additional 20 companies ,but even 2000 companies wont be enough to save your Settlers when TG erupts)

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  147. @Nameless

    Central govt classified 9 of the 10 TG districts, as Backward and lagging behind rest of the state. So SKC is Contradicting with the central govt.

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  148. "Anyway SKC report is a Joke, Centre has Betrayed TG people , Settlers prepare for Backlash.( Centre is sending additional 20 companies ,but even 2000 companies wont be enough to save your Settlers when TG erupts) "

    Bring it on. You will soon realize what "Andhra Pride" means.

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  149. Some andhra guy posted this on some forum, may be not Credible but interesting.




    I am privy to some parts of the report as i was floating around while the things were being discussed. The report talks about three solutions and also details the pitfalls. The report itself starts with a quote from Meghanand desai amid strong objection of Mr Shariff (one of the panel member).
    Mr Duggal is a gregarious gentlemen and he likes to crack a lot of jokes and Mr Shariff is the most Anal, while Mrs Kaur is very calm and serene. Coming to the point, the main highlight of the report are...

    1. With the bifurcation of Andhra between Telengana and Andhra, GOI should get ready for the demand of Rayalseema too

    2. Renaming Andhra as Andhra seema to take care of the aspirations of Rayalseema should be looked at.

    3. Hyderabad should be made a union territory and Chandigarh model should be adopted for Hyderabad too.

    There was a solution through establishment of regional boards to take care of Hyderabad also discussed.

    Actually there were 3 solutions discussed for telengana aspirations. What went into the report I don't know as I have not seen the whole of it, Only few pages as it was discussed. They would discus every damn topic on earth , even criminal prosecution of Supreme court judges, with Justice Srikrishna participating himself in the debates

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  150. Bring it on. You will soon realize what "Andhra Pride" means.

    We already seen your "Andhra Pride" when you won your Madras back. You did won... right????

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  151. @Nameless
    <<<Bring it on. You will soon realize what "Andhra Pride" means.

    Andhra PRIDE? your people are known for the lack of it. Andhras are known for their opportunism, Shrewdness and Cunningness. But sorry not for Pride.

    Andhra Settlers in northern Telangana made a Strategic Decision to Support Bifurcation , unlike Settlers in Hyd who Dream that CRPF will cover their asses when all the hell breaks loose.


    http://www.deccanchronicle.com/karimnagar/parties-rope-%E2%80%98settlers%E2%80%99-t-973

    So does Andhra PRIDE include supporting TRS. Your Andhra settlers in Chennai are so "proud" that they are afraid to speak Telugu and answer in Tamil when asked for road Directions.

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  152. POK:

    You understood my argument wrong. I never imposed assimilation. However, should the tolerant nature of the ‘natives’ allowing you ‘not to assimilate’ and maintain your distinct identity be used as a weakness to ask for a separate city weaning it away from the region just because you as settlers have now become a majority?

    I discuss this in detail at ‘Raj in Bangalore’ on this blog.

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  153. ...your distinct identity be used as a weakness to ask for a separate city weaning it away from the region just because you as settlers have now become a majority?

    If they think that they may save there asses by making HYD UT, then they have to take the responsibility of those thousands of settlers who living peacefully in other TG areas when there ass kicked very badly.

    HYD UT demand is from Seemandra only, but not from settlers who living in HYD. Many times they expressed there decision as they dont mind if TG is formed and they are part of it.

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  154. My Arguments on Hyderabad.

    1.Taking Hyderabad away from Telangana will be like Ringing a Lunch Bell for naxals to recruit in Telanganas Hinterland.

    2.ON NAXALS.
    There were violet agitations in Nort-East( not stone pelting but full scale Armed Insurgencies) for seperate statehood , when the center conceded to their demand, they gave up arms and joined electoral politics.

    one interesting fact:

    Telangana, as Telingana, Telingane is in global historical records for the last two thousand years. KARL MARX recorded this word in this geographical setting, tracing the happenings since 11th century, in his notes on India. He reported to have "Praised" about the memory power of the Priests learning Vedas on the Banks of Godavari near Karimnagar.

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  155. viceroy:

    Does this remind of you KCR, KTR and Kavita. And doesn't the Nazi party remind of you TRS.

    We know our histories very well. No, they don’t remind us of Nazi Party.

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  156. @ Green & Wiki

    Dont get too cocky. Razakars had put you down like rabid dogs. They are still here in heart of telangana. That is your aukaat.

    As for chennai ,we fought and we lost ,we didnt make stupid claims like we will kill tamilians if we dont get chennai etc.

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  157. "HYD UT demand is from Seemandra only, but not from settlers who living in HYD. Many times they expressed there decision as they dont mind if TG is formed and they are part of it. "

    Then why do you claim that you guys will attack andhras in Hyd . If you have courage go and attack andhras living in seemandhra. Cant do that ?

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  158. Interesting article
    http://www.indianexpress.com/news/tackling-telangana/5The analogy is not perfect. But once you grant Telangana, why not Rayalaseema and so on. The lesson from the example of Belgium is to make Andhra Pradesh into a ‘federal’ state with autonomous parts, which can have their own sub-assemblies. Andhra Pradesh can be declared as a state of three or four autonomous regions. The present Assembly can constitute the separate regional assemblies of Telangana, Rayalaseema 59563/


    Its About adopting a Belgium type system , something Andhras everywhere are quite enthusiastic about, ( Apparently in 1968 strikingly the same year riots occured in Telangana they occured in Belgium too about the same issue). But what the author and Andhras dont mention is that the experiment largely failed in Belgium , the people are divided and civil unrest occurs frequently , and according to USA Belgium today is run by Mafia( read that in wikileaks).

    wats ur take on this sujai

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  159. @POK,


    "Why no one responds to comments about Lambada settler-job-grabbers."


    The tribal population of A.P is less than 5% of its population.I keep wondering how a person who is shrewd enough to notice a mere dichotomy of a percentage of representation in the state,fails to understand the dynamics involved in the larger scheme of things...

    People like you and Sera are pound foolish ,but penny wise.....

    Several tribes like Lambadas,Konda Kapus,Konda Doras,Banjaras,Konda Reddis,Kammaras etc... though small in number enjoy better facilities compared to the others like Kodis Savurus,Koyas etc...

    Just like,individuals and groups who have settled in Hyderabad claim to be richer compared to the locals here....

    Even S.C groups like Malas enjoy a better representation than the Madigas in the state....

    Well....such is the state of governance in Andhra Pradesh(read SA leaders,who have held all the important ministerial posts for 50 years or so..)

    The government failed in eradicating the existing problems and,actually aggravated some by neglecting core issues like representation and equal distribution of wealth...


    If you want to know why the Lambada tribe enjoys a better representation in the state,compared to the other tribal groups,I would like to know why the government failed to implement basic rules of equal distribution all over the state.

    Doesn't it speak greatly of the quality of leadership that we have here(read SA)...

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  160. cont...

    One of the reasons for backwardness of several tribes,is the gross neglect on the part of the government,and it's failure in keeping the promises made to them.


    Several activists in India have raised these issues(Narmada Bachao,Chipko,Sarvodaya,Bhoodan) and held their ground,with a little victory...


    Unfortunately,they do not enjoy much representation in the assembly or the parliament,thanks to money bag politics in India....

    I am sure even a pea brained intellectual would understand that unrepresented groups do NOT enjoy even fundamental rights in India...

    I see the Telangana struggle as a bold and confident step towards changing the dynamics of dynasty politics in Andhra Pradesh....

    If people let the T issue gather dust inspite of mass support,I would surely consider it the death of democracy in India....(not that we had much of it left,but a step step in the right direction I'd say)

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  161. @POK,


    "Why no one responds to comments about Lambada settler-job-grabbers."


    The tribal population of A.P is less than 5% of its population.I keep wondering how a person who is shrewd enough to notice a mere dichotomy of a percentage of representation in the state,fails to understand the dynamics involved in the larger scheme of things...

    People like you and Sera are pound foolish ,but penny wise.....

    Several tribes like Lambadas,Konda Kapus,Konda Doras,Banjaras,Konda Reddis,Kammaras etc... though small in number enjoy better facilities compared to the others like Kodis Savurus,Koyas etc...

    Just like,individuals and groups who have settled in Hyderabad claim to be richer compared to the locals here....

    Even S.C groups like Malas enjoy a better representation than the Madigas in the state....

    Well....such is the state of governance in Andhra Pradesh(read SA leaders,who have held all the important ministerial posts for 50 years or so..)

    The government failed in eradicating the existing problems and,actually aggravated some by neglecting core issues like representation and equal distribution of wealth...


    If you want to know why the Lambada tribe enjoys a better representation in the state,compared to the other tribal groups,I would like to know why the government failed to implement basic rules of equal distribution all over the state.

    Doesn't it speak greatly of the quality of leadership that we have here(read SA)...

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  162. Razakars had put you down like rabid dogs.

    Read the history, it is Indian Army gave a statement that the Hyd State armed agitators made there way clear, they are the reason the job made easy without much fight.

    ,we didnt make stupid claims like we will kill tamilians
    Other way to say is, you were not in a position to make that statement for Madras, infact Tamilians did that statement about you, when you made your false claim for Madras. they already kicked there ass out. Dont forget the Rajaji's statement 'Get out andhra dogs from Madras in 24 hrs'.

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  163. Lavanya,

    You hit the nail on the head. Exactly. Why are the lambadas who migrated from rajasthan to telangana given all privileges and facilities while the local tribals you named have remained where they are. The konda reddy's are ridiculed in their own villages and districts. they are the butt of jokes in offices by fellow telanganites. the lambadas are treated much better. why? because the upper castes (by whatever castes they are called)prefer to denigrate their own tribals but cuddle up to the outsiders- the lambadas. familiarity breeds contempt.

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  164. Lavanya,

    The reddy popln is small. the velama popln is insignificant. the kamma popln in andhra is small.
    BC 35-40%
    SC 16%
    Kapu 10-12%
    Reddi 8-10%
    Kamma 4-5%
    Brahman 2-3%
    Vysya 2-3%
    Velama 1-2%

    who has all the jobs.
    who has all the lands
    who has all the positions
    who has all the political posts

    just because the indigent tribal popln is small can they be ignored.
    what is their status going to be in Telangana. Will KCR or the Reddy's who are going to rule Telangana do anything.

    And what is dynastics politics - KCR, KTR, harish, Kavita.....

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  165. hi guys,
    I am from andhra and would like preserve my great culture, will you let me stay in TG or will you 'lafoot' me out :(.
    - andhra chicken.

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  166. "Other way to say is, you were not in a position to make that statement for Madras, infact Tamilians did that statement about you, when you made your false claim for Madras. they already kicked there ass out. Dont forget the Rajaji's statement 'Get out andhra dogs from Madras in 24 hrs'."

    So you are in a position to kill Andhras ? Is that you are trying to say ? Lets see what happens . If it is going to be end of Andhras we will make sure that we will go down fighting. I am in Hyd and i am not afraid to TG goons.

    Regarding Rajaji , tamil people showed him his place during anti hindi movements. As for his threats on andhras ,lakhs of andhras stayed in chennai and lived with dignity. Telugu culture ,telugu movies flourished there. Heck the telugu film industry was there till late 80's.

    As for you guys ,you werent even speaking your telugu in Hyd till we andhras arrived in Hyd. So much for your love of telangana telugu

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  167. So you are in a position to kill Andhras ?

    Did I said that? I think you are still hallucinating.

    I am in Hyd and i am not afraid to TG goons.
    We are in Telangana, we are not afraid of Seemandra Goondas, factionist, crooks, rowdies, terrorists, naxals, drunker, talibans, osamabinladens. As long as you are in TG and raise your voice against us, we will make sure we kick your asses.

    Regarding Rajaji , tamil people showed him his place during anti hindi movements.
    So, you too hope that TG people will show the same fate to KCR, and you feel yourself happy. Any way your statement proves that you are helpless to your opponent, and you feel happy if your opponent loose to some other one. And you agreed that you can even pick our nose hair.

    lakhs of andhras stayed in chennai and lived with dignity.
    And you think that they dont do the same in HYD. Double standard thinking?

    you werent even speaking your telugu in Hyd till we andhras arrived in Hyd.
    Yes, we were speaking Hebrew, so god sent you to teach us the gods language, called Telugu.

    Hello Andhra God, you teach us enough, we think its your time to get your ass off form Telangana.

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  168. హరీష్ గారు, మీకు ఒక విగ్నఫ్తి. Please dont confuse united AP movement with castes. United AP movement is run by Kammas aka socalled Chowdaries. హైదరాబాద్ లో కరిపించిన ప్రతీ ఆంధ్ర వాడిని 'నీ caste ఏంట్రా అని అడగండి'. కమ్మ అనో చౌదరి అనో చెప్తే, ఉచ్చ కరేవరకు తన్ని, ...నేని బస్సు ఎక్కించి ఆంధ్ర తరిమేయండి. ఈ కమ్మ దరిద్రులు, ఇలానే తమ కులాన్ని పెంచారు, వేరే వాళ్ళని కులం పేరుతొ segregate చేసి. what goes around should come around for these bastards

    These bhogam bastards have inflicted pain on fellow students in professional colleges owned by their caste fraternity. They pull you by caste name. This is the sole reason why every one hastes them to their core - be it Brahmins or Kapus for NTR's anti policies, be it Reddy's for backstabing them with their own support, be it SC and ST people for killings. They are hiding behind their media sponsored veil.

    Very soon these bhogam bastards will be publicly bashed for their arrogance and caste-centric manipulation, including in their home towns in Krishna district. Presently these cowards are hiding behind their media sponsored veil. Every one is against them including in Telangana

    - An Andhra Resident, who does not care if the state is slpit, as he is wise enough to see through the Kamma's plot for United AP.

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  169. Sujai, The great divide between Andhras and Telanganas accelerated after NTR came into power in 1982, and played a crucial role in caste-centric politics. He is solely responsible to the caste-bias and division in the society today across AP.

    The cunning Andhras are none other than this community. They created problems not only in Andhra and Rayalaseema (to some extent), but also now in Telangana. I am so surprised to see Raj News conversations openly bashing Kammas.

    The same is true in getting their freternity promoted in Jobs, Industries, Business etc. Examples are seen every where in Cine Field to Media to Software companies owned by them.

    Hope god gives them some sanity to know every one in a human being be it any caste or region or religion.

    Till this anomaly is corrected, I do not see why Telanganas will ever trust Andhras any time in the future in a 2 state or 1 state scenario.

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  170. Whatever it is,Telanagana is not going to happen.

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  171. Telanagana is not going to happen.

    We are all looking forward to it. As I said before... తెలంగాణా ఏర్పాటును సీమంద్రులు అంగీకరించక పోవటం అనేది నిండా మునిగిన తెలంగాణతో కలసి సీమంద్రులు మునిగిపోవటానికి చేసే ప్రయత్నం లాంటిది. అది తెలివయిన పని అని నేను అనుకోను.

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  172. If Sujai is really concerned about telangana he should tell us why he established his company in Bangalore but not in Hyderabad which would have generated employment to several people here .I know my comment will be deleted, yet I ask it.

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  173. @pok,


    Apologise for the delay in getting back.

    "Why are the lambadas who migrated from rajasthan to telangana given all privileges and facilities while the local tribals you named have remained where they are."

    The tribal system itself was born out of the caste system,where people considered as outcastes or untouchables wandered around the country leading irregular or immoral life....


    Certain tribes like the Gonds,Lohars,Banjaras or Lambadas have been found across the country,and not just in A.P.

    My understanding is,since the Hyderabad State was a relatively new province with a completely different way of life,the erst while leaders chose to club certain tribes who might have settled in some parts of the forested land...

    Since they were an ethnic and colourful group,they might have been given prominence in national media,leading to better exposure,compared to the other tribes....

    That the people of India have chosen their leaders based on dynasty,caste is not a secret to anyone of us.....


    This led to the rise of dynastic politics and caste politics instead of representative or ideological politics.....

    If only people had chosen to vote for their representatives on the basis of merit....

    If.....

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  174. cont....

    "The reddy popln is small. the velama popln is insignificant. the kamma popln in andhra is small."

    I can understand your frustration in seeing gross injustice being done to the deserving....

    As long as caste based politics enjoys superiority in India,citizens are going to be exploited on similar lines.

    "just because the indigent tribal popln is small can they be ignored.
    what is their status going to be in Telangana."

    I feel the Telangana agitation is a good opportunity for the tribals,Muslims or any other minority group to support the struggle and ascertain their position in the new state....

    You will not get something,unless you ask and strive for it....


    "Will KCR or the Reddy's who are going to rule Telangana do anything."

    No....

    Why should they????


    If people are expecting rainbows from Telangana,once it is formed,they are at a complete loss,here.

    On the contrary,we have a huge backlog of development activities,that have been pending for ages.....

    I want to believe,that the people have learnt their lessons and are going to hold on to their responsibilities a little tighter,and not repeat similar blunders.....

    What I see in it is a new beginning,a new way of dealing with the politics in our state.

    If Europe can rise from ashes after the World Wars,can't we even try????

    "And what is dynastics politics - KCR, KTR, harish, Kavita.....

    If people are going to repeat mistakes,and replace the NTR,YSR families with the KCR family,then they deserve to be exploited by them......

    What is stopping a politically conscious person like you from representing your concerns and seeking solutions for them????

    Why are you so scared of a change???

    You prefer rotting in the old pattern of the system,without even trying a new approach.

    Why blame others then????

    If you are fooled once,your ignorance could be blamed,if you are fooled twice........

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  175. wandered around the country leading irregular or immoral life....

    There has been a typo

    I meant...forcing them to lead an irregular or immoral way of life.

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  176. Suddala's news shows BCs are moving away from TDP. Inka TDP lo migiledi kamma leaders mariyu vallaku chidatalu kotte nadamoori fans. It was surprising to see poor and middle class kamma farmers going behind jagan last month in krishna and guntur dist. This shows that the roots of TDP are either getting rotten because of pro-industry stand by pedda-kammas or anti-poor stand taken after NTR departed in 90s.

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  177. I am just an outsider looking into telangana issue... only "POK" seems to be the sensible person and from what i read the Telangana demand mostly is emotional and has no substance to back it...people making idiotic blog posts about an issue tat may have national repercussion shows that this is a nothings but political in nature and fever are running high in the state & tat some crooked people might be playing divisive politics in the state of andhra pradesh..

    The idea of INDIA is bigger than any state or region always keep that in mind. As Indians we stand else we fall....

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  178. >>If Sujai is really concerned about telangana he should tell us why he established his company in Bangalore but not in Hyderabad which would have generated employment to several people here .

    Only thing I conclude here is, you dont have proper education about economics. You need to re-start your education starting from Kinder-garden and take the path to learn economics in higher studies.

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  179. I am just an outsider looking into telangana issue.....what I understand is (I guess everyone do here) 'vipin goel' alias POK.

    United Andhra ideology: We hate Telangana but we keep say we want to be united, otherwise we fall. We cant even possibly live without Telangana tax money in Andhra.

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  180. The Supreme Court on Monday issued notices to the TRS chief, Mr K. Chandrasekhar Rao, his legislator-son, Mr K.T. Rama Rao, daughter, Ms Kavita, and the actor-turned-politician, Ms Vijayashanti, on a contempt petition alleging that an agitation related to lawyers inspired by them had “obstructed” the functioning of the Andhra Pradesh High Court in September last year.

    The petition referred to the agitation in the AP High Court with lawyers demanding 42 per cent reservation for Telangana in the appointment of law officers to the court.

    A bench of Justices J.M. Panchal and H.L. Gokahle issued the notices on the contempt petition filed by the former legislator, Capt. Harish Uppal, in a pending contempt case filed earlier by Mr Adusumilli Jaya Prakash.The notices were also issued to the Congress MP, Mr Madhu Yashki Goud, the TRS legislator, Mr Etela Rajendra, and the party leader, Mr N. Narsimha Reddy.

    The Supreme Court also issued notices to the the HC Bar Association president, Mr D.P. Reddy, the AP Bar Council chairman, Mr A. Narasimha Reddy, and the advocates, Mr Satyam Reddy, Ms Jyoti Kiran and Mr Vinay Kumar Goud, apart from the Union of India and the Andhra Pradesh government.

    The petitioner sought initiation of “contempt proceedings” against these persons for “wilfully committing” the contempt of the court.

    According to the petition, a group of advocates had on September 14, 2010, entered the court rooms shouting slogans and threatening judges to stop court proceedings. Consequently the functioning of the court had come to halt.

    On September 15, 2010, about 200 to 300 advocates lead by the advocate leaders, named as respondents, entered the court rooms and “vandalised” the court premises. “One among them also threw chappals on Justices C.V.N. Nagarjuna Reddy and N. Ramamohana Rao,” the petitioner said, while linking the TRS leaders also to the incident alleging that the entire agitation was inspired by them.

    “It is submitted that the issue with regard to the strike for 42 per cent reservation started on September 13, 2010, in the HC premises, no action was taken by the bar leaders,” the petition said adding “the advocates and political leaders (mentioned as respondents) are liable to be punished for wilful contempt of court.”

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  181. It is a "flawed" approach to take Higher GDP growth rate in Telangana as a indicator of the region doing better than the rest of the State. Nine of the 35 districts in the Country that Central govt recently classified as Backward and
    allocated funds are in Telangana alone.

    If u take GDP growth rate the Districts around Hyderabad like Nalgonad, RR, Medak, Mahboobnagar may look like Bright lights to economists like u, But even a lay person on the "ground" can see the "wretched" condition the local people live, while the Industries established here by Andhras who also bring their own labour force continue to grow and Account for your Double digit growth of Telanganas GDP.

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  182. Why Sujai formed his company in Banagalore if he loves T.

    Same reason why Lagadapati has his Lanco Infra Based in Gurgaon although he loves Andhra.

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  183. @Vipin,


    "from what i read the Telangana demand mostly is emotional and has no substance to back it..."

    If you read the earlier posts from the same blog,you would understand that a lot of arguments made in favour of Telangana are rational.

    Do not go by arguments,since most of the time people have a strong emotional approach to the issue...


    "people making idiotic blog posts about an issue tat may have national repercussion shows that this is a nothings but political in nature "

    Any thing that concerns the welfare of crores of people is bent to have repercussions in the country..


    "The idea of INDIA is bigger than any state or region always keep that in mind. As Indians we stand else we fall...."

    The last time I remember,nobody in here wanted a separation from India.On the contrary,India would benefit from smaller states as it would be easier for the government to maintain smaller areas and encourage growth....

    Asking for a better system of management is intelligence,not foolishness....


    If that had been the case,India wouldn't have been strong,inspite of the formation of Uttaranchal,Chattisgarh & Jharkhand.....

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  184. http://www.tehelka.com/story_main43.asp?filename=Ne200210stir_my.asp

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  185. Muslims pledge their unstinted support to Telangana state

    http://www.siasat.com/english/news/nothing-short-telangana-acceptable-muslim-organisations

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  186. Masti:
    Only thing I conclude here is, you dont have proper education about economics. You need to re-start your education starting from Kinder-garden and take the path to learn economics in higher studies.
    Yes, I agree that I don't have proper knowledge of Economics.But what does it have to do with my question?

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  187. Greenstar,

    Muslims pledge their unstinted support to Telangana state

    There are many telanganas who do not support separate state (I personally know some of them. Nallmotu is one example). Ofcourse they may be in minority. Just like how TRS represents the majority of people of telangana, the MIM also represents the Muslim community. While some muslim groups may support telangana, MIM (the elected and official representatives of muslims) already submitted their views (and of the majority of the muslim people) to SKC. Needless to repeat it here. Since we are 40% of the population of Hyderabad, no decision regarding the future of Hyderabad will be taken without our support.

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  188. >>But what does it have to do with my question?

    Once you follow my advice, you will understand it about what does it have to do with your question.

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  189. (I personally know some of them. Nallmotu is one example)

    I too personally know so many from Seemandra who support TG formation, current 'Jai Andhra' movement is one example, does it mean 'United Andhra' is not approved by all Seemandras? If is it so, then what is the meaning of 'United Andha' movement which has a small section of peoples support?

    Nallamotu is a settler. I cant expect much from him. He showed his Seemandra nature when he says he support United Andhra, but his he wants to sell his facts book for a profit. If he is a really United Andhra supporter he should get financial support form his fellow supports and made that book available to every one (digital or hard copy).

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  190. thanks lavanya great article

    Stir, My Beloved Country

    Water, self-respect, opportunity – SAMRAT CHAKRABARTI tracks all the reasons why the Telangana movement has become a passionate roar on the ground


    Battle cry Telangana supporters at a protest rally in Hyderabad
    PHOTOS: REUTERS
    KRISHANK M, 21, an aspiring actor and student, grabs a quick bite sitting on a charpoy under a tent in the nondescript village of Chinnapur, just off NH-9. The Osmania University student, along with 120 others drawn from 12 universities across the Telangana region, has stopped for a lunch organized specially for them by the village chief. “We grew up hearing and reading stories about what it was like to be part of India’s freedom struggle. I never thought I’d ever know what it felt like to experience it first-hand. But today, I do,” says the law student who, along with other members of the Telangana Students Joint Action Committee (TSJAC), is demanding that a separate Telangana state be carved out from Andhra Pradesh. Krishank and his colleagues have been on the road for 12 days already during the course of their march. By the time it finishes eight days later, after crisscrossing Karimnagar on the way to Adilabad and Warangal, the students would have walked 600 km across five districts and 300-odd villages to tap into support for a separate state.

    When the Telangana agitation came to a boil in December last year with K Chandrashekhar Rao’s fast-unto-death leading to a shutdown in the region, many regarded it as mere cynical politics, a desperate gambit by the Telangana Rashtra Samiti (TRS) leader to revive a political career that had been in free-fall. But the reality on the ground is very different: there is a huge, popular mass movement that is fast gaining critical momentum. Students like Krishank and his colleagues are beinng feted as heroes as they espouse their cause across the countryside, tapping into the simmering discontent. Typically, the students walk around 30 km each day. Walking alongside the students on the stretch from Jagitala to Chinnapur TEHELKA saw villagers — sometimes a few hundred in number, sometimes less — lining the route to garland the marchers, tossing flowers and egging them on. School children have given their classes a miss to see their heroes, holding aloft banners; some girls jostle to take autographs in their exercise books. Women come out and dance in circles around the intricate flower arrangements made along the route. Motorists slow down, stopping and joining in the impromptu dance. It is as if Batakama, the local spring festival, has arrived early. The celebrations are an expression of cultural identity and a proclamation of self-respect. Indeed, the students are terming their statehood call a self-respect movement. By all indications the students will be the show-stoppers in Dharmapuri when they make it to the village later for a seminar on the Telangana movement, struggle and the way forward. The whole village will be in attendanc

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  191. Masti:
    Once you follow my advice, you will understand it about what does it have to do with your question.
    I still don't understand what you are speaking about.Everything that's available in Bangalore is available in Hyderabad(atleast what is needed by his company).

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  192. >>Everything that's available in Bangalore is available in Hyderabad

    If it is true, I wonder why Bangalore considered big market for IT than Hyderabad.

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  193. @Hyderabadi

    Never say people like Nallamotu etc. Remember there is no one living in Telangana who is against Telangana. Just remember that. It is the cardinal fact.


    All others are "hindi, marathi or tamil or kannada speaking kind" or muslims or seema-andhras or settlers or drohulus/traitors or maybe animals.

    Know your place Hyderabadi. Think of the Nazis. You are not a german if you are not a Nazi. And don't even remind them of things like History, they will tell you they know it and nothing you say can change their history - it is the truth and everything you say is lies. The only truth is recorded by historians like Jayshankar and intellects like Sujai and leaders like KCR and KTR.

    What do you know of History, Hyderabadi. History is what sujai and jayshankar says. What anyone else says is absolute unfiltered shit. Are you so dense? DOn't you get it. You want to argue still, Hyderabadi. They will then cut off your tongue so that you don't argue.

    And whatever the SKC says remember it is lies and the damned lies and the devil incarnate wrote it.

    And never say you have rights. You will have your asses kicked out. You are a settler even if you are 1000 years old or 500 years old or 200 years old. You are a settler unless they say you are not or you agree to say what they want you to say.

    And never say you are under the Indian constitution and such bullshit. It simply does not matter. And never forget that they are 4.5 crores and can fight anyone. They will turn the musi, krishna and godavari red.

    So know your place Hyderabadi. Don't talk like you have some say. Everything you have is actually theirs.

    The only thing you can tell them maybe is that Hyderabad will become a UT like Pondicherry is a UT while it is geographically unconnected and lies in three different states.

    But don't say such things, Hyderabadi if you love your life. Remember they have given you "permission" to live and be grateful that they allow you to earn for your hardwork.

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  194. Everyone is a traitor/drohulu unless you agree. Remember you have been "given permission" to live your life. Remember you owe us life, birth, wife, kids and your money.

    That is what is being said. Listen or perish or have your tongues cut or your arse kicked.

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  195. Hyderabadi said

    I personally know some of them. Nallmotu is one example


    Never say such things Hyderabadi. He is a traitor/drohulu. You are a traitor/drohulu. The central govt is traitor/drohulu.

    Everyone is a traitor/drohulu unless you agree. Remember you have been "given permission" to live your life.

    There is only one history - the one that intellects like Jayshankar, Sujai, KCR, KTR write. Every other history is by the traitor/drohulu.

    Don't talk bullshit Hyderabadi otherwise your tongue will be cut and your arse will be kicked out. And pay whenever they ask you to pay. It is not extortion mind you. It is what they deserve to get for their qualifications as goons and their hardwork for cutting tongues and kicking arses.

    And opinions are arseholes mind you. Which opinions - your and mine opinions. Their opinions are mouth holes.

    And never bring the argument that Hyderabad can be a UT like Pondicherry. They hate it. Because it makes sense. Pondicherry is a UT which is spread across three states and is in four parts none of which are connected.

    Never say that. Remember you owe them your life, birth, wife, kids and your money. They are supreme.

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  196. Pondicherry is the way to go for Hyderabad.

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  197. Hyderabadi said

    I personally know some of them. Nallmotu is one example


    Never say such things Hyderabadi. He is a traitor/drohulu. You are a traitor/drohulu. The central govt is traitor/drohulu.

    Everyone is a traitor/drohulu unless you agree. Remember you have been "given permission" to live your life.

    There is only one history - the one that intellects like Jayshankar, Sujai, KCR, KTR write. Every other history is by the traitor/drohulu.

    Don't talk bullshit Hyderabadi otherwise your tongue will be cut and your arse will be kicked out. And pay whenever they ask you to pay. It is not extortion mind you. It is what they deserve to get for their qualifications as goons and their hardwork for cutting tongues and kicking arses.

    And opinions are arseholes mind you. Which opinions - your and mine opinions. Their opinions are mouth holes.

    And never bring the argument that Hyderabad can be a UT like Pondicherry. They hate it. Because it makes sense. Pondicherry is a UT which is spread across three states and is in four parts none of which are connected.

    Never say that. Remember you owe them your life, birth, wife, kids and your money. They are supreme.

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  198. There is only one history - the one that intellects like Jayshankar, Sujai, KCR, KTR write. Every other history is by the traitor/drohulu. Remember you owe them your life, birth, wife, kids and your money. They are supreme.

    I am glad you finally opening your eyes and seeing the ultimate truth. Our hard work is finally paying off. Now we can happily shift our efforts to other fools like you.

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