Friday, January 07, 2011

SKC Report: Bloopers or Lies?

Let it be known that states in India were not formed based on statistics.   States were formed to satisfy aspirations of people of a certain region.
Let it be known that data is unreliable.  Data can be cooked and misinterpreted.  That’s why we had Satyam in Andhra Pradesh.
Let it known that even though Government of AP denied certain information to RTI activists of Telangana, the same information was provided to Srikrishna Committee.  If it is a fair trial, the information should have been available to everyone contesting the case.
Let it be known that Government of AP pulled down certain webpages and documents from their websites after Srikrishna Committee was announced.  

SKC Report is a joke.  It lists six options, some of them downright ridiculous and laughable.  And yet, this report is being used by detractors to Telangana Movement to discredit our cause. 

Here is a collection of all the lies from Srikrishna Committee Report.  This will tell you that information cited and deductions made in the report are false, fabricated and serving few vested interests.  [Please send your bloopers across.  I will list them here].

1.  Number of Chief Ministers from Telangana.

There were only 4 Chief Ministers of AP hailing from Telangana but SKC wants us to believe there were 6! (Dileep)


3. Telangana festivals like Bonalu, Sammakka-Sarakka Jathara are
widely popular across AP. The government, people and media have always given
equal importance to these occasions. (aditya)

4. Appointments in Judiciary


Please send the bloopers you find in the report. I will list them here. 

173 comments:

  1. The data collection is a regular thing, and is not done keeping the Telangana agitation in mind.


    If so, then why there are data discrepancies between the SKC data and the data collected by us using RTI act? For example,

    http://goo.gl/9XIte

    or
    http://goo.gl/9XIte
    or
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_NU3AUl0YDOI/TSbj1D3rZaI/AAAAAAAALGY/LtTySWKdhZ0/s1600/Blooper%2B1.jpg

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  2. BLOOPER: 4.8.01

    <<<The Andhra Pradesh State Electricity Board (APSEB) was formed at
    the end of 1956. During 1955-56, at the time of its formation, there was no
    thermal generation installed capacity. However, hydel generation was 44.0 MW.
    Similarly, the number of villages electrified at that time was 398 (coastal
    Andhra), 147 (Rayalaseema) and 11 (Telangana), respectively, in the three
    regions.


    APSEB was established in 1958-59 not 55-56, and Nizam established Thermal Power plant before 1930.

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  3. <<<< During 1955-56, at the time of its formation, there was no
    thermal generation installed capacity.


    Nizam established thermal power plants in Telangana in 1930's

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  4. opara 4.17.08

    In a Table for Power consumption per-capita, They failed to Separate Domestic Power Consumption and Industrial Power Consumption.

    Domestic power consumption in Telangana is not even 60% of that in Seemandhra.

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  5. aditya:

    I need sources or some information to corroborate. For example, you can say when the Power plants were established by Nizam and where, etc.

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  6. http://www.rediff.com/news/slide-show/slide-show-1-interview-with-sangam-prithviraj/20110107.htm

    Well, looks like some elements are trying to divide and weaken the movement further.Have to see how far they will succeed. May be some one like Gaddar will be happy to see the students go against KCR and family.

    It is alright for internet warriors (passive activists and active critics) like Sujai et al to talk about need for unity and give clarion calls for violent or non-violent protests.You guys will lose nothing at the end of the day.Most of you have jobs or businesses and you are all practically global citizens.

    But the gullible students in OU and KU, who get influenced by their leaders, professors and politicians - what of them? I am more worried for the unemployed youth in Telangana and elsewhere in AP, and for the poor farmers whose plight is getting submerged under this Telangana issue.The world is not going to fall apart if Telangana is not given on a priority basis. But the issues of inflation, unemployment, and agriculture are the more serious developmental issues.

    The way things are going, there seems to be near unanimous feeling among the ruling classes that united AP is needed for the Lok Sabha sake, and it does not matter how the State gets governed internally, within the Constitutional framework. Internet warriors can't change this feeling because you guys do not have real stakes, the politicians do. And the local students are suffering because their young blood gets easily influenced by impractical ideals.

    If internet warriors want to help Telangana, please think about helping these students in their careers.They are facing lathi charges while we are all typing on our laptops or mobiles sitting in AC comforts.

    Just my two cents from a practical and humanist perspective.

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  7. Internet warriors can't change this feeling because you guys do not have real stakes, the politicians do.

    So, why dont you relax and leave us alone? We are not threat to any one because we have no real stakes.

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  8. @Greenstar: "So, why dont you relax and leave us alone? We are not threat to any one because we have no real stakes."

    I don't agree with Sujai on most of the matters, but I think he has his heart in the right place.That makes me come back to this blog and voice my opinion. And in my opinion, none of us have real stakes in the sense the politicians do. At least I have some indirect stakes because I live in Hyderabad.

    Also, my intention is to ask the internet debates to discuss Telangana's development concerns and especially what can be done to support the students who are in the agitation.KCR won't help them and the businessmen won't as well.The police are beating them up mercilessly. I see it as a more urgent issue than discussing bloopers in the report.

    That is all I have to say and if Sujai has an issue with my thoughts, he can ask me to stay away from this site.

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  9. Sujai:
    There were only 4 Chief Ministers of AP hailing from Telangana but SKC wants us to believe there were 6
    According to Wikipedia there were 5 from this region(of AP) + 1 (of Hyderabad state).
    Have a look at this wikipedia article.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Chief_Ministers_of_Andhra_Pradesh

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  10. SRIKRISHNA REPORT: CURBS ON TV CHANNELS

    http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/hyderabad/Srikrishna-Committee-report-Curbs-on-TV-channels/articleshow/7232605.cms

    will you call it suppressing freedom of expression or "responsible journalism"

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  11. I have counted Chenna Reddy twice.So the actual figure would be four only.

    However instead of looking at number of persons, we should consider the number terms a person of particular region has got a chance.

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  12. A few excerpts....

    "When the Government decided to start mining of coal in Khammam District, it was the enterprising Abdul Karim Babukhan, who was called to open the first mine at Singareni in early 20’s."

    "With Coal as fuel for generation of power and bamboo for raw material from Adilabad, Mr. Babukhan set about to produce paper and cellulose textile and such other Industries."


    "In fact, the authority named, ‘Godavari Valley Development Authority’ was set up to industrialise and develop the area. Today this Authority still exists, but, only on paper."

    Mr. Babukhan set up the Sirpur Paper Mills Ltd and the Sirsilk Limited in Adilabad District. "Between the years 1930 to 1960, other Industries were also started by him, such as the Hyderabad Vanaspathi Ltd and The Hyderabad Roller Flowers Mills Ltd at the Moula Ali Industrial Estate."

    " A maize starch plant and an Acetic Acid Factory were also set up at the Azamabad Industrial Estate (where the Charminar Cigarette Factory is presently located)."

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  13. When people go around pelting stones at Ameerpet and Panjagutta or people throw stones at LANCO office and people stop films shootings and when people beat up teachers and lecturers and when people burn buses and people hit people and burn shops in Tarnaka and when people extort money. . .

    The time to pay back has come. People need to deserve freedom. When one person is silenced by the majority by force it is equally right for that one person to silence the majority by force if he/she had the means.

    The media blackout and the police were invited by the agitators. There's no need to scream injustice now when all the while injustice was done by the same party against a silent majority.

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  14. Kumar Narasimha:

    People outside Telangana and those living inside Telangana do not pay attention to the real movement and they grossly underestimate the force of this movement. When I say this, usually the detractors think that it is a defiant posturing or a message of a threat and usually retort by saying, ‘oh yeah, we will see, our police will crush you’.

    When they say that, they don’t realize that we have been crushed before. And our movements have taken violent and non-democratic routes, and that is no good for the people of this region. This movement will be controlled, peaceful and nonviolent only as long as it has a political voice, using the democratic tools of India.

    This is what I was fearing- that the movement would go out of the hands of the political outfits – which include the political parties and various organizations and JACs. When that happens, it becomes unorganized, violent, and will be crushed with brutal force – which India is capable of – we have precedents for that. And many detractors are looking forward to that. That it should go violent so that it can be crushed with armed forces. And saner voices are trying to keep it nonviolent so that it is not crushed.

    Last time it happened in 1969, thousands were injured and nearly 370 people killed. For some reason, the detractors think that it will be same this time. Once it is crushed, they can just go back to living peacefully in this reason. They think it will be like 1969. They don’t see the difference between 1969 and 2009. This time the movement has support from grass root levels and has formed strong foundations with hundreds of political organizations and JACs working constantly (read ’72: Unite or Perish).

    Do I see a possibility of bonhomie between people of various regions after the violent suppression in this region? I don’t. Do I see clarity in politics of Telangana if the movement goes violent? I don’t.

    Those who deride Telangana Movement do not realize and appreciate the fact that the agitations have been extremely sober towards the so called ‘settlers’ and other detractors. What could happen now is exact opposite. Is that in the best interest of Telangana Movement or the future of Telangana? Absolutely not.

    Contd..

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  15. [Continued from previous]

    Kumar Narasimha:

    But the gullible students in OU and KU, who get influenced by their leaders, professors and politicians - what of them?

    You think they are gullible. They are not. In front of them I keep quiet because they know too much. They correct my statistics, they point out errors in my facts. They roll out data on TMC of water from Krishna River without even blinking.

    People think that it is the leaders who lead these students. Not really. These students come from backward regions of Telangana. If you tell them that Telangana gets more water than Andhra and that it is SKC which has said it, they will laugh at you. If you tell them that Telangana is more developed than Andhra because a report says so, they will kick you out.

    It is our arrogance to assume that these young students are gullible and innocent. It would be arrogance on our part to think that the students who protested in Tiananmen Square or those who protested against war in Vietnam are gullible or innocents. They are the ones who challenged the professors, leaders and politicians, combined.

    I am more worried for the unemployed youth in Telangana and elsewhere in AP, and for the poor farmers whose plight is getting submerged under this Telangana issue.

    You are worried about them. But they don’t want you to worry about them. They just want you to get Telangana first. They believe that a farmer in Telangana would get water only if Telangana is formed. I believe that too. Hence I do not hesitate from fighting for this cause.

    The world is not going to fall apart if Telangana is not given on a priority basis.

    Not for you. Not for me. For millions of Telangana people, a step forward is definitely a separate Telangana; 54 years of broken promises and agreement is a testament to that.

    But the issues of inflation, unemployment, and agriculture are the more serious developmental issues.

    Ha. You are being naïve here. Try saying that to Gandhi or Nehru when they are fighting against British.

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  16. [Continued from previous]

    Kumar Narasimha:

    If internet warriors want to help Telangana, please think about helping these students in their careers.They are facing lathi charges while we are all typing on our laptops or mobiles sitting in AC comforts.

    We have seen these students. They are far more focused and determined than we are. During the last one year, they trusted the saner voices which compelled them to take the democratic and political path. And they did it, however reluctant they were. My fear – I hope I am wrong – is that they are not ready to listen to the sane voices any longer. And that is not good for this region now, or in the long term.

    We have been betrayed. And it feels like we have betrayed our young people. Because we have no answer for them when they ask us, ‘why did you ask us to wait?’ The entire political bodies, the organizations and JACs are unable to articulate a proper answer that says, ‘O young people of Telangana! Don’t you worry! We will get Telangana for sure’.

    In 1920s, young people of India got disillusioned with Gandhi and separated from his ways and became violent, taking the matters into their own hands. They got really pissed off with Gandhi, his politics and his methods. Of course, it is a different matter that we hail those young men as great leaders now. But you have to understand that situation is no different from now. The politics has not worked. The saner voices have failed. SKC report has turned out to be a joke. I didn’t expect it to be so bad.

    Just my two cents from a practical and humanist perspective.

    It is easy to give two cents when it is not your issue. But we do appreciate it.

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  17. @United Indian,

    "will you call it suppressing freedom of expression or "responsible journalism"

    The government has not clamped down news regarding bigger dangers like the 26/11,Kargil,the Iraq and Afghan wars etc...

    Then why now????

    What does the government want N.D.Tiwari ,Nityananda and Rakhi Sawant kind of news????


    Responsible citizens would like to know,how people are treated during a civilian crises....

    I and my friends would like to know..

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  18. Kumar Narasimha:

    If internet warriors want to help Telangana, please think about helping these students in their careers.They are facing lathi charges while we are all typing on our laptops or mobiles sitting in AC comforts.

    Yes, there are many organizations and outfits that have come up during the last one year of Telangana Movement geared towards imparting the necessary skills to the young students of Telangana so that they can get jobs. Some social activists are working on providing employment in various industries. Telangana activists are working on bettering the cottage industries, get them funds, get them medical facilities, etc. Provisions are being made to ensure the industries in Telangana (when Telangana is formed), it will benefit the youth of Telangana.

    What you see on TV is just one face of this movement. Media shows only what makes sensational news. There is more to the movement but unfortunately some people living inside Telangana are not paying attention to it.

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  19. Pleas go to this site for submitting online petition Govt Of India supporting 5th Option of SKC:
    http://www.petitiononline.com/TGSKC/petition.html

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  20. @Kumar Narsimha&Anonymous,

    What you have witnessed is 'nothing' compared to what you will witness now...
    The agitation is going to turn uglier with these half truths and lies....

    No amount of reasoning will work now...

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  21. I called up several people today and everybody has the same feelings: Betrayed and Cheated. People are more angry, not less after this SKC report.

    Concerns expressed were that the Congress is playing divide and rule policy in trying to separate few districts in Telangana.

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  22. aditya,

    The domestic consumption is shown in 4.17.03 Table 4.16. you can calculate the per capita consumption.

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  23. The Time for Consensus has COME and GONE, Its time for filling BOTTLES with PERTOL. The central govt has once again Betrayed the Trust of Telangana people, Its the Price we have to pay for fighting against Nizam for joining the Indian Union.

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  24. Wiki,

    If you fill bottles with petrol, they will fill their guns with bullets. The entire force of the nation ( yes nation, not state) will be against you. The entire country is reading the report. If you think there is falsehood in the report, publish the correct version, show it to the press and TV.

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  25. nee bonda nee bole.piccha naa ko,antha clear gaa ee edavalaki anyayam jaragaledu antee em poyekalam ovvhindi bey nee yamma.

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  26. show it to the press and TV.

    We started the report started from the times of merging. The first one is 'Gentleman Agreement'. Every one including SKC agreed that state govt. broke that agreement. So, does the Seemandra@ agree to restore that agreement? Or want to go grant us the state? If the want to restore the agreement, lets talk about other issues.

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  27. <<<<if you fill bottles with petrol, they will fill their guns with bullets.

    They have already done that fired 700 bullet rounds 400 Tear Gas Shells.

    <<< The entire force of the nation ( yes nation, not state) will be against you.


    If Atrocities are committed against Telangana people by Central forces ,may be NOT force but The "SYMPATHY" Of the world( yes the whole goddamn planet) will be against YOU.( meaning you and your Central govt)

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  28. antha clear gaa ee edavalaki anyayam jaragaledu antee

    సదువుకున్నోడి కంటే చకలింటొడు నయమని పైన రాసినోదటువంటి వానిని చేసే అని ఉంటారు

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  29. Sujai,

    Rayala-Telangana issue.

    You state that T should be formed based on Aspirations.

    The Muslims have informed SKC that their aspiration is a Rayala-Telangana. So why ridicule it?

    Your desire for T is based on historical facts. The Muslims desire for RT is based on current facts.

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  30. @POK
    <<< If you think there is falsehood in the report, publish the correct version, show it to the press and TV.


    That will be a good Idea in a "functioning Democracy", But to which "press" or "TV" we shud show the correct version,your Andhra Media under the Ruse of the NBA( which is a Self Regulatory Toothless Private body)gag order "effectively" blacked out news on Telangana agitation, the only Pro-T Raj News TV signal was blocked twice today for some 5 hours.

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  31. Green Star,

    Whether SA agree to agreement or not is inconsequential. The state has to implement any agreement. That it is doing so is reflected by the SKC. The task has to be completed. Repatriation of some 14000 out of 18000 has already taken place. The other condiitons have to be enforced whether SA people like it or not.

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  32. Wiki,

    They are blacking out the violence. They are showing all debates. The national TV is showing all data. KTR, KCR , Shravan and others are being given hours of national TV time. Not one of them is coming out with any facts to contest the SKC report.
    none of the agitators in OU are from hyderabad. why don't they go to their districts and agitate.

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  33. So repeated clips of closeUP shots of Blood Coming Out from Suris Dead Bodys Mouth is not "VIOLENCE" to your Andhra Channels, BUT it IS VIOLENCE to Show Telangana Students GETTING CANED AND SHOT , ATLEAST AS A SCROLLING . GUESS ANDHRAS have Strange AESTHETICS.

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  34. @POK

    <<<They are blacking out the violence.


    Please REPEAT THE SAMETHING when TV Channels AIR CLIPS OF YOUR SETTLER HOUSES BURNING WHILE 8 LAKH ANDHRA SETTLERS ARE BUSY WITH THEIR SANKRANTHI VACATION AT THEIR NATIVE PLACES.

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  35. The other condiitons have to be enforced whether SA people like it or not.

    Well, if you start implementing 'Gentlemen Agreements' , that means mulki rules too. Many of Seemandra@ gonna loose there jobs. As per the agreement, buying farming lands in Telangana by a Seemandrat should be approved by Telangana panel (or something like that, which doesnt exists now). By that rule, many of the transactions will be rolled back, for example Satyam RL Raju bought many of agriculture lands... etc etc.

    I say SA people like to divide than implementing 'Gentleman Agreement' now.

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  36. why don't they go to their districts and agitate.

    Is it allowed to show in TV if I go to my town and do a dharna? I dont think so.

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  37. He is an educated mentaly illiterate a HOLE. SO are the rest of his supporters.

    ఎవడో అన్నదానికి తెలంగానోల్లనందరిని అంటావేన్దిభే సాలె? గట్లయినప్పుడు ,మాతొని నీకెందుకు భే, తెలంగాణాలో నువ్వు ఉన్నన్ని రోజులు మేము నీ మొకం మీద ఉమ్మితే తుడుచుకోవాలి, తంతే తన్నిన్చుకోవాలి, లేక పొతే ఇక్కడి నుండి దొబ్బెయ్ (ఇది పైన రాసిన Anonymous భాడఖోవ్ గానికి, మిగిలిన సీమండ్రులు పట్టించుకోవద్దని వినతి. )

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  38. Dear bloggers,

    FYI, That wasnt number of CMs but number of tenures. With Marri Chenna Reddy being CM for two times, it makes it 5. And from Kosta Andhra the number is 11 but is given as 10. So I guess that is a blooper.

    Thanks to wikipedia.

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  39. green star,

    mulki rules stand abolished by constituion. gentlemen's agreement has different points. pl read the SKC report carefully. if you feel that cultivated lands have been bought by SA and need to be cancelled so be it. Who cares for these rich guys from SA.

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  40. Wiki,

    Are you dumb? or are you a moron?

    Suri issue is a non issue for the masses. OU violence is a matter of concern for all people.

    And you think burning SA houses will not be retaliated? I wont go into specifics here. Don't be silly. Have you seen a machine gun? Have you ever fired it? Did you see it on top of a vehicle near Tarnaka last year?

    Go home kid and come back after you grow up. Mom's getting worried.

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  41. The Srikrishna committee report's biggest failure, from the Congress's point of view, .....

    Congress has very few options to save its party's position in a united or divided state.Right now, its only option is to divide and rule the forces in favour of Telangana and those opposing. The final line of the Srikrishna committee report might have been written for benefit of Congress's leadership.
    The report quotes the first Home Minister of India, Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel: "It will be a folly to ignore realities; facts take their revenge if they are not faced squarely and well."

    Link to Rediff

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  42. @POK

    <<<. Don't be silly. Have you seen a machine gun? Have you ever fired it? Did you see it on top of a vehicle near Tarnaka last year?

    Yes I saw machine guns , I fired quite a few rounds from a lee enfield .303 rifle in a Police Range.

    The light machine gun you see on Top of CRPF trucks is Called a PKK.

    Iam familiar with all the Standard Issue rifles of CRPF like INSAS,SLR( modified FN FAL), AK 47.

    and If i wish I can teach other people too, so please dont make us people mad.

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  43. by "quite a few" I mean NUMEROUS.

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  44. @POK
    <<<about your machine gun

    The PK machine gun is gas operated open bolt machine gun, Uses NATO specification 7.62 Round that can be belt fed , with a rate of fire of 800 rounds per minute and a effective range of 1600 yards.
    I can give you a Crash Course in Basic Operation, but that would be illegal.
    But you can get a operators manual through some russian Defense sites.

    Whos MOMMA IS GOING TO WORRY NOW.

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  45. POK:

    none of the agitators in OU are from hyderabad. why don't they go to their districts and agitate.

    Gandhi was from Gujarat but he led many of activities from New Delhi or Kolkata. Hyderabad belongs to Telangana the way Delhi belonged to Indians, and therefore they originate many of their agitations in Hyderabad.

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  46. POK:

    I am not sure if you are the same POK who has been on this blog for quite sometime. I am asking this because your statement shows that you don't pay any attention.

    Whether SA agree to agreement or not is inconsequential. The state has to implement any agreement.

    And yet, none of the agreements were implemented by the state with SA are in majority.

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  47. if you feel that cultivated lands have been bought by SA and need to be cancelled so be it.

    Seee, thats the problem. If the SA people has really such spirits why did we had six point formula, GO610 etc? Do you think for false reason 1969 agitation happened?

    SA always argue that there was no damage done to Telangana. How come they accept these again?

    I am disappointment that SKC didnt mentioned about such land issues (may be I missed).

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  48. POK:

    Your desire for T is based on historical facts. The Muslims desire for RT is based on current facts.

    Which option are you fighting for? Or you are OK with any option as long as it is not Option 5?

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  49. Can you keep your stamina till 2014?
    EXCERPTS FROM REDIFF:
    "The Congress is back to square one. So once again it is trying to buy time. The issue could be stretched till 2014 (when state assembly elections are due) after which the party would like to take final call for or against Telangana.

    Accordingly, since the report had been released Congress leaders are giving the signal that, 'Nothing will be done in hurry. A state in India can't be created in jiffy. It has to be a well-thought out process.'...In 1969, 300 students had died but still Indira Gandhi remained unmoved and stood by her ideological belief of not dividing Andhra. ...Right now, its(Congress') only option is to divide and rule the forces in favour of Telangana and those opposing."

    CHOICES BEFORE CONGRESS:
    Option 5: It wins in Telengana but loses in Andhra.

    Option 6: It loses in Telengana. Plus it had to fight Jagan in Andhra

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  50. @POK

    <<< They should be Stupider than General Dyer to Use that PK LMG you talked about(the round is usually full metal jacket and as a result has too much penetration,it just wont stop after hitting a student), they use it only for SHOW OF FORCE, it INTIMIDATES only weak hearted ANDHRAS like you but not TELANGANA fighters.
    The most commenly used ROUND now in OU CAMPUS is the BUCK SHOT it contains exactly 6 very small grained rubber pillets, which Cause lot of Pain when not fired at too close range. Thick Padding around your clothes can Defeat this round.

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  51. UnitedIndian:

    Can you keep your stamina till 2014?

    We have stamina till 2064.

    Indians took nearly 90 years to attain Independence from British though the British though they had completely quelled any uprising from the natives in 1857 itself.

    People underestimate movements for self-rule.

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  52. Can you keep your stamina till 2014?

    Remember how long Seemandra had fought for there state from Madras.

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  53. @Wiki
    Its the Price we have to pay for fighting against Nizam for joining the Indian Union.


    Did you guys had an alternative ?

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  54. @Wiki
    Iam familiar with all the Standard Issue rifles of CRPF like INSAS,SLR( modified FN FAL), AK 47


    Anyone with a computer and a working internet connection with basic understanding of computers can find this information and become familiar. A few days of reading and one can start teaching too :)

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  55. @Sujai
    Which option are you fighting for? Or you are OK with any option as long as it is not Option 5?

    The opposite is true for you ? Ain't it ?

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  56. SKC report a slap in the face for telangana agitation. It proved that the agitation was built on lies and half truths. Though it took some pity on them and said that movement is not entirely unjustified.

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  57. @Andhrite
    response for
    @Wiki
    Iam familiar with all the Standard Issue rifles of CRPF like INSAS,SLR( modified FN FAL), AK 47

    <<<<
    Anyone with a computer and a working internet connection with basic understanding of computers can find this information and become familiar. A few days of reading and one can start teaching too :).

    <<< Good luck with your endeavor , Hope you wont break your collar bone or wet your pants, wen you the rifle Butt hits you with Recoil.
    and Buy your rifle on Ebay.

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  58. Did you guys had an alternative ?

    So, you didn't learn anything from the fate of Nizam.

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  59. Though it took some pity on them and said that movement is not entirely unjustified.

    Thats why, SKC concluded only two implementable options which are against the winning party (Seemandra).

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  60. See what SKC wrote in section 2.15.01 :

    At the outset, some or all such allegations appear true when absolute amounts,
    numbers and percentages are reviewed. Yet, when a study of rate of change,
    growth rate and shares in the state economy is evaluated, nothing unusual
    emerges. Telangana excluding Hyderabad, currently has a share of 36% in state
    population and 41% in state land mass. Any development parameter that is
    consistent with these shares can be considered on par or at parity with the
    population / share of land mass. Indeed, one finds that at a reference point in
    the past, such as the census 1961 or 1956 or 1974 since when factual data are
    available, the shares for Telangana were far too low (refer to Figure 2.44). In recent years, however the shares of Telangana for many common development parameters are in league with the share of population / area, often being higher.


    SKC is saying that telangana is at par with other regions and in fact TG was a poor region to start with, which shows how much telangana progressed.

    And in next section he says :
    Disturbing, however, are the growing levels of inequity within Telangana and Rayalaseema, and within the deprived population groups.
    That means that it is the rich in telangana who are exploiting the poor in TG ,not the andhras

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  61. @karim:
    "So, you didn't learn anything from the fate of Nizam."

    So u did that to Nizam? Yes, people will believe you. You have to thank your good fortune for not being closer to Pakistan. Nizam was just waiting to merge with Pak and you would have been migrated to Af-Pak region or victim of one of the daily occuring bomb blasts or a Hindu refugee killed while crossing the border desperately.

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  62. SKC also writes about how unemployed youth and govt emp's in TG are dreaming about lakhs of jobs and multiple promotions. SKC definitely has a sense of humour.

    On page 457 see what is written :
    Although the model
    recommended is considered to be in the best interest of all the people of the state some segments of Telangana population, such as students and unemployed youth (who have been promised lakhs of jobs), non-gazetted officers (who are anticipating accelerated promotions), lawyers and farmers
    etc. may not feel satisfied and may resort to violent agitations.


    Are these students still dreaming about lakhs of jobs ?

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  63. @Aravind

    Forget about ALTERNATE HISTORY, few days from now Karim and me are going to have a Bonfire party( Bogi mantalu) made out of Your Andhra Settler homes for SANKRANTHI.
    Thats a PROMISE.

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  64. @Sujai:
    "We have stamina till 2064.

    Indians took nearly 90 years to attain Independence from British though the British though they had completely quelled any uprising from the natives in 1857 itself.

    People underestimate movements for self-rule."

    I am shocked at your parallel with Indian freedom movement. Your MPs, MLAs, ZP, MP members are from ur region. They are more interested in stoking violence, hunger strikes for separate state but not to get projects and funds. All they do is blame others and u buy it. And based on these lies, u create a drama of 'aspiration of freedom fr self rule'.

    This country will not believe u when u say u are being ruled by colonial powers. People in other states are not free/captive in any sense different from people in Telangana. You have to come up with something else better to hoodwink people.

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  65. "
    Thats why, SKC concluded only two implementable options which are against the winning party (Seemandra). "

    You think so . see what skc says about option 5.
    In this option there would be a clear division of Andhra Pradesh into
    two states – Telangana and Seemandhra and in the interim Hyderabad will
    continue to house both the capitals till a new capital for Seemandhra is
    created. For creation of a new capital, a large investment would be required,
    provision for which will have to be made both by the Union and the state
    governments.


    Centre and state governments will give us money to set up our capital.

    Plus he talked about consensus for this option plus safety of settlers ,so we can insist upon a act like SC/ST attrocities prevention act.

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  66. Aravind:

    I am shocked at your parallel with Indian freedom movement. Your MPs, MLAs, ZP, MP members are from ur region.

    Before 1947, during 1930 and 1940s, Indian ministers held offices. They were elected leaders. Leaders like Nehru and Patel were ministers. And yet, India did not think they had self-rule. They wanted completely independence from the masters (British) though the elected leaders were Indians.

    The same way, though the elected leaders are Telanganas the masters are Seemandhras who hold the majority in State Assembly.

    People in other states are not free/captive in any sense different from people in Telangana.

    India has always considered Telangana people to be different from people of other states. They gave us Gentlemen’s Agreement, they gave us a Regional Committee, a deputy minister, Article 371 (D) and Mulki Rules. Therefore they always knew that there is a very good chance Andhras would discriminate, marginalize and suppress people of Telanganas in the united AP.

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  67. "
    Forget about ALTERNATE HISTORY, few days from now Karim and me are going to have a Bonfire party( Bogi mantalu) made out of Your Andhra Settler homes for SANKRANTHI.
    Thats a PROMISE. "

    Why wait till then ? why not tommorow ? Dont worry our northie friends in CRPF ,BSF will take care of you.

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  68. The highlight of SKC report is this statement given on page 325 :

    "The first phase was when the Nizam‟s government invited farmers
    from coastal Andhra to settle and cultivate lands in the downstream of
    Nizam Sagar dam."


    We Andhras had to come to TG to teach you guys modern farming techniques. We didnt grab TG lands from your gullible TG doras. Your favourite ruler NIZAM invited us to come to TG.

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  69. @Nameless

    we will see what your 8000 Northie Friends Can do when we start Burning the 8lakh andhra Settler Houses within Hyderabad.

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  70. You have to thank your good fortune for not being closer to Pakistan.

    Nizam always wanted to stay alone, once Indian Union started forcing him to merge, he thought about other options including merge it into Pakistan. Any way thats off topic.

    What I want to say you in my previous post is if you force us against our wish, you face he same fate what Nizam faced.

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  71. @wiki
    "Forget about ALTERNATE HISTORY, few days from now Karim and me are going to have a Bonfire party( Bogi mantalu) made out of Your Andhra Settler homes for SANKRANTHI.
    Thats a PROMISE."

    well.. u have ur own version of history where people liberated themselves from Nizam after abt 200 yrs without external intervention.

    What u r promising is ridiculous. U will not believe that I am not a settler but I do not carry hatred on my sleeve like u. I and my generations r from Nalgonda and I studied in Karimnagar. U guys shud stop pretending eveyone is like u or brand them as agents etc.

    I promise u our police will take care of infested pests like u. Talk to me after Sankranthi. Last Sankranthi lo emi podicharo chusamu... People like u just bark on internet, when it comes to facing police bullets u guys r chicken

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  72. @ Sujai

    Looks like SKC read your blog on how you guys will cut off water,supplies to Hyd if it is made UT. So SKC proposes that a path from Hyd UT to coastal and seema has to be made. He in fact mentions this aspect of water pipes,supplies.

    I guess i must thank you for this option.

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  73. Are these students still dreaming about lakhs of jobs ?

    SKC did not mention about who wanted United Andhra like how they described about telangana agitators.

    Is that mean, there are none? or negligible?

    The entire report SKC was crying about Telangana but never talked about Seemandra crying.

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  74. One more personal slap for Prof Jayashankar , his theory of catchment is dismissed outright by SKC.

    But will 'clever' TG agitators learn ?

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  75. This country will not believe u when u say u are being ruled by colonial powers. People in other states are not free/captive in any sense different from people in Telangana.

    But you still worry and keep ranting here. Welcome .....

    :)

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  76. Centre and state governments will give us money to set up our capital.

    What's you are waiting for? I am clue less now....

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  77. Name less:

    One more personal slap for Prof Jayashankar , his theory of catchment is dismissed outright by SKC.

    Why do you say that? What's in the report which makes you conclude this?

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  78. @ Karim

    See what SKC wrote about first SRC views on page 436 :

    “no change should be made unless it is a distinctive
    improvement in the existing position, and unless the advantages
    which result from it, in terms of promotion of „the welfare of the
    people of each constituent unit as well as the nation as a
    whole‟”. (para 106 page 29);


    United Andhra doesnt have to even say a thing. You guys have to prove that change is good for both entities. Thats what the above sentences mean.And this was given by your favourite first SRC

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  79. >> Dont worry our northie friends in CRPF ,BSF will take care of you.

    We know that from long time, that is 'your' force, it try to protect you, not Andhra Pradesh. Andhra Pradesh dooms to fall....soon.... , you will be safe , where ever you are in,, seemandra, hyderabad, or nizamabad. You will be safe.

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  80. @ sujai

    On Page 205 , this what SKC wrote :
    One of the grievances of Telangana region is that, although
    Telangana contributes most to the catchment area of Krishna and Godavari
    within the state, the allocations to the region are lower and not in the same
    proportion. Besides, they are not realizing even these lower allocations. In
    regard to the low allocations, as compared to the catchment area contributions, it
    is observed that by general convention, the allocations are based on the consideration of various factors like the contribution to the basin waters (where the catchment area will come into play), dependent population, developed usages, alternate sources, possibilities of use, etc. Catchment area cannot be
    the only criterion.
    Also, the allocations had already been determined for the state as a whole by the KWDT and the GWDT awards. Further division of these allocations is done project-wise and region-wise in the state through a technical
    committee.


    Is this not debunking the catchment theory so widely propagated by jayashankar

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  81. Your favourite ruler NIZAM invited us to come to TG.

    ఇసంత రా అంటే ఇల్లంతా నాదే అంటారని మా నిజాం గానికి ఎర్కలేకుండే .. దానికి మనమేం జేస్తం? వాడే అనుభవిన్చిండు

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  82. So AP continues in quagmire while PC and Sonia turn other side.
    Of course great KCR will continue his agenda of TDP bhoostaapitam.

    I pray god bless Telangana with better wisdom.

    1. Why discuss the report of the comittee in which you have never shown faith? Especially in so much details.

    2. Why seemandhra opposing the separation? Are they genuinely interested in smaikhyavaadam?
    Well, Sujai can answer this.
    Sujai, imagine youself in a situation when Kannadigas ask you to leave instantly. No! you will not be allowed to dispose your assets. You have to leave behind everything.

    3. Who is villian number one? TDP or Central government?
    A whole year was spent by T-vaadis attacking CBN and TDP for the stalemate. Why? Just bcoz KCR said it. BTW where is KCR who said Sonia already gave Telangana? Discussing future cabinet with Sonia? Ha ha ha..

    4. Did Telangana people believe TDP?
    TDP went to 2009 elections with Telangana promise. They lost in all regions including Telangana. Together with TRS they won only 40 of seats in the region.
    Do not forget Congress did not include any explicit promise of Telangana in manifesto. Yet they won. Single larget party in Telangana.
    PRP who promised 'Praja Telangana' drew nil (maybe 1?). Strong pro-Telangana party BJP won only two. MIM that was not totally infavor of Telangana won 9 seats.
    How one one should interpret it?
    People including Telangana voted against the parties that promised Telangana and for those who did not promise at all.
    Then why should TDP/CBN are bound by a promise that was rejected by people?
    For an year they have destroyed image of Hyderabad.
    (Of course this will benefit Sujai as there will spurt in IT activity his assets will appreciate multi-fold).
    Even after two days from publishing SKC report and further dodging by PC they could not understand who is stopping Telangana.

    Funny thing is a retired IAS officer from Guntur exudes confidence that Telangana will be formed. Whereas Telangana leaders and elite accuse each other in open debate.
    There are attempts to show MIM as Telangana drohi.

    Of course there is really good news. Congress party is virtually isolated. Historically congress party is the single most oppressor of Telangana wishes.
    Telangana can be realized by 2014 (maybe even before) if congress MLAs and MPs are pushed to edge.

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  83. So SKC proposes that a path from Hyd UT to coastal and seema has to be made.

    .. and immediately says, hart to implement, so not applicable.

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  84. @Aravind
    <<<U will not believe that I am not a settler but I do not carry hatred on my sleeve like u.

    I believe you are not a "settler",
    Most of the "arseholes" I know are from Telangana region, and you are one of them. Not a Traitor But an Arsehole.
    Because no True Telanganite will say the words you said to Karim just because of his relegion.

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  85. Another gem from SKC regarding 610 GO and girgilani commission given on page 281 :

    If we look at the department-wise details of employees identified for repatriation (18,856), this preliminary conclusion by
    the OMC is confirmed. Of these, it is understood that 14,784 employees now stand repatriated.


    SKC says that Girgilani commission calculated the 610 GO violations as 18856 . See not 2 lakhs as tom tommed by TG agitators. And even of the 18856 , 14784 ppl have been repatriated.

    SKC has literally blasted TG arguments and statistics.

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  86. And this was given by your favourite first SRC

    When did we started listening to first SRC? didn't you trashed few of there suggestions and took only which you liked it?

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  87. And this was given by your favourite first SRC

    SRC is not our constitution. As per our constitution Article-3 no such thing was said. Another quote from SRC

    after a full consideration of the problem in all its aspects, we (SRC) have come to the conclusion that it is neither possible nor desirable to reorganise the States on the basis of the single test of either language or culture

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  88. Anonymous:

    [You should give yourself a name. It helps.]

    1. Why discuss the report of the comittee in which you have never shown faith? Especially in so much details.

    Because it is being used by the media to create a case for United AP which is not the option that Telangana people want.

    Sujai, imagine youself in a situation when Kannadigas ask you to leave instantly. No! you will not be allowed to dispose your assets. You have to leave behind everything.

    Telanganas are not asking Andhras to leave instantly.

    A whole year was spent by T-vaadis attacking CBN and TDP for the stalemate..

    I am a T-vaadi. I did not spent much time attacking CBN or TDP. Looks like you are keen on only those reports where CBN/TDP are criticized but never bothered to look at other reports.

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  89. ".. and immediately says, hart to implement, so not applicable. "

    Hard to implement but not impossible. I personally prefer this option. I had already seen excitement in people from Mehboobnagar , they are hot for this option.

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  90. <<< Dont worry our northie friends in CRPF ,BSF will take care of you.


    You will be a fool to make enemies of local Telangana people and Rest your fate on CRPF.

    National Security Gaurds considered to be the elite of elite of Indian Armed forces, showed a "legendary" level of INCOMPETENCE during MUMBAI ATTACK. CRPF is a THIRD RATE "paramilitary" force manned by poorly Trained Conscripts mostly from Bihar and UP. Most of the comapanies deployed in Hyderabad were directly picked from "HOT ZONES" like Kashmir and Chattishargh, they are battle weary and consider Hyderabad deployment to be a Vacation, They will be the first ones to Loot Your Settler Houses when Telangana agitators burn them. MARK MY WORDS.

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  91. @ Wiki

    "They will be the first ones to Loot Your Settler Houses when Telangana agitators burn them. MARK MY WORDS."

    Oh you are showing sympathy towards us. How kind of you Sir.

    Dont worry we will be fine. We know how to put down rabid dogs.

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  92. Name less:

    In regard to the low allocations, as compared to the catchment area contributions, it
    is observed that by general convention, the allocations are based on the consideration of various factors like the contribution to the basin waters (where the catchment area will come into play), dependent population, developed usages, alternate sources, possibilities of use, etc. Catchment area cannot be
    the only criterion.


    What are the other considerations? Is it a national secret that it cannot be disclosed to us? One can almost rationalize any kind of data with such vague excuses. For example, India can give 95% water to Karnataka and 5% to AP and say, ‘well there are other considerations but we will not disclose those to you’. Do you think AP will just shut up and not protest? Would it not cry ‘discrimination’?

    Such wild assertions by these committee members on such important and crucial topics which are at the core of Telangana Movement without giving any explanations or reasoning actually makes us believe that this report was ‘funded’ by vested interest. While giving excruciating details on trivialities like percapita and number mortality rates, they have completely glossed over the details on the most important topic – water from the rivers.

    Once Telangana is formed we are quite sure the Central Government will intervene and the valid rules will be applied and we will get more water.

    Think about this. They say that Telangana is on a plateau and hence it cannot get more water, but Karnataka and Maharashtra through which Godavari and Krishna flow are even higher than Telangana but are given enough water. Is it not clear that Telangana will be awarded more water than what it actually gets if the state is formed? If you have some intelligence (little more than SKC Tughlaqs) you will be able to deduce this on your without asking me further questions.

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  93. @wiki:
    "What I want to say you in my previous post is if you force us against our wish, you face he same fate what Nizam faced."

    If not for Sardar Patel, u guys would still be shining boots of Nizam. ur idol KCR praises Nizam and u seem to not like him much.

    "we will see what your 8000 Northie Friends Can do when we start Burning the 8lakh andhra Settler Houses within Hyderabad."

    Are u and Sujai doing it or r u outsourcing it to poor labourers and students? Burn one house and u will see where it gets u. U will be hunted down and dragged on the streets.

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  94. @Anonymous

    1. Timepass ? We never had faith in that, we know that is not a report but a weapon to attack the Telangana, now we are trying to defend from its attacks, so learning that weapon very well.

    2. No one asked Seemandras to leave Telangana by leaving everything behind. That is a false propogonda made by Seemandra media.

    3. First CBN, then central. CBN promised to T people about his unconditional support to T formation, and took U turn. Never apologized. Who knows about KCR, are we working for him? When I last checked my payroll, it is not from KCR/TRS. I always feel funny to see the people who still listen to KCR and clan and take them serious.

    4. You can interpret in any way. You tell us whom to elect when every one is promising the same? My personal choice is to vote Congress, because nothing will happen with any other parties. Others may think differently. Congress didnt promised, but they took few steps which appeared they are working towards it. YSR made a committee(or something like that in Assembly just before the elections). CBN is promised unconditionally, if he dont agree, then why dont he say the same thing? If TDP didnt took U turn(because they promised), then the situation may be different, congress may controll there Seemandra friends who resigned. May be not...

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  95. <<<<Oh you are showing sympathy towards us. How kind of you Sir.
    Dont worry we will be fine. We know how to put down rabid dogs.


    You may think of us as "rabid dogs" but I think you are still Human.
    Nazis have thought of Jews as "rabid dogs", but the Soviet Red Army when it Put Decimated "Nazis" it still viewed them as humans, we will do the same. And I guess either you are a Andhra NRI or else a Andhra outside Hyderabad or else really Stupid, for failing to appreciate the strategically precarious "situation" you are In.

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  96. @wiki:
    "Because no True Telanganite will say the words you said to Karim just because of his relegion."

    U must be kidding. All I said was in the context of Telangana and when I said u guys... i meant fanatic T-state supporters and T-terrorists.

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  97. SKC says that Girgilani commission calculated the 610 GO violations as 18856 .

    Eenadu said the violations are around 50K. These are current violations.

    2lak is the number what we lost from the day of merging (because of dilution of mulki rules). If you dont see the difference, I cant explain again. I did this tens of times already.

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  98. Aravind have some "Andhra" Self-Respect dont pretend to be a Telanganite just for the sake of Argument.

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  99. they are hot for this option.

    They will be disappointment that recently that option is also ruled out.

    As per SKC, it is easy to bifurcate telangan with HYD capital than going for option-4

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  100. <<<fanatic T-state supporters and T-terrorists.

    TERRORIST !!!! thats TOO MUCH , Ok Bhagathsangh was also called the samethings fanatic and Terrorist.

    How to make a MOLOTOV.

    Get a empty beer bottle.
    fill it 60% petrol
    20% kerosene
    put some Thermocol pieces inside the bottle for two days.
    Seal the mouth of the bottle.
    Tie a Cloth to the Neck of the bottle. Get a Lighter and you are READY TO ROCKN ROLL.

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  101. @ wiki

    I am in Hyderabad but I am not afraid of any goons or mad people. It is not my personal courage ,but it the courage required to protect the honour of Andhras. We present generation of andhras have no right to give up the honour earned by the courage of andhras over 3000 years.

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  102. Sujai, My name is elamanda. No ketigaadu. No no battala satti. Does it help the discussion in any manner?

    TDP/CBN - you are not the only T-vaadi. In reality other T-vaadis far better than you. Many of them explicitly target politicians only. You chose "Why I blame all Andhras...".

    Moreover you are busy making money in B'lore and popping up now and then with instigating articles.
    I watched all the nonsense on TV as well as internet in last 10 months. I can read non-stop the names of 100 Telanagana leaders/activists.

    Do not pretend that u did not get about leaving instantly. KCR, TRS and many congress leaders and OU students made arrogant statements
    after Dec 9th anouncements.
    KCR said 'naalkalu kostam', Jeeva reddy said 'evadabba jaageeru'. Madhu yaaskhi said 'gandipeta neellu taagi vaagutunnaru'. OU students said people went for Samkraanti cannot come back.
    Telangana medhaavulu Prof. Haragopal, Prof. Kodandaram, Nandini sidha reddy, Despati Srinivas, Chukka Ramayya, Jaipal reddy none not a single person condemened for such statements.
    Prof. Haragopal expressed his pleasure when CBN and team were beaten up in baabli.

    SKC and media report - most of you T-vaadis already condemned Andhra media. Now how does it matter to you what they discuss?
    In this regard I certainely appreciate stand of TRS and BJP. They stopped at option 1. AP is not viable anymore. Demanded only one action Telangana with Hyderabad.
    Whereas a bunch of jokers from Telangana congress continue to talk of this report as if it is their achievement.

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  103. @Nameless
    <<<<We present generation of andhras have no right to give up the honour earned by the courage of andhras over 3000 years.


    Bad Choice of words. It reminds of the old Nazi Fanatic(Hitler!!)
    3000 years of Glorius Third Reich.

    There is nothing Inglorius about Telangana State formation, U can live like before, But if u get in between U will be Crushed under the wheels of Telangana agitation.

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  104. @ Sujai

    "What are the other considerations? Is it a national secret that it cannot be disclosed to us?"

    The criteria was "Existing Uses principle". Andhra region was already using that water for more than 100 years ,so it got more water than TG. Just like Andhra Pradesh got more water than Karnataka despite having lesser catchment than karnataka.

    Rule is same for every one . The demons are in your head planted by your favourite professors.

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  105. Everybody trying to be oversmart by disowning KCR.
    If Telangana happens in 2011 he will be first CM.

    Ask your peace-loving elit gathering around him at every opportunity.
    There was one journalist Narasimha rao. Sometime in late november KCR said "congress Telangana ichhesindi" while KK is around.
    This Narasimha rao interpreted it as great strategy of KCR.

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  106. From experience:

    Too much petrol: will burn off in a Instant not good.

    Thermocol: It will stick to the target like fewiquick( almost like napam)

    Kerosene: To delay the burning process.

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  107. @ Green

    "They will be disappointment that recently that option is also ruled out.

    As per SKC, it is easy to bifurcate telangan with HYD capital than going for option-4 "

    Even option 5 is not bad for me. On Dec 10 ,2009 ,we Andhras were left with nothing.

    But today ,option 5 says ,we get centre ,state money for building andhra capital ,consensus is a must ,safeguards for settlers.

    Option4 is my first choice ,Option 5 is second best.

    Option 6 is least prefered to me ,as i cant bear your constant blackmail and whining.

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  108. Namesless, you are right. There is no need to be afraid of any fanatics in Hyderabad. Barring a few KCR followers and disgruntled elements like Jayashankar, Telangana people are peace-lovers.
    If there is any violence they will shut doors on these fanatics.

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  109. If a Telangana Agitator is not being called a "Fanatic" or "Hooligan" he is not doing his job properly.

    IF he is being called a peace loving "moderate" ITS A INSULT.

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  110. SKC is saying a new Telangana State will lose out "gas based power plants" if Seperated, the Current situation is that we dont even have one while Andhra has 7, I T State forms Central govt will allocate atleast 3.

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  111. @Wiki:
    "Aravind have some "Andhra" Self-Respect dont pretend to be a Telanganite just for the sake of Argument."

    u must be hypocrite and bigot to think anyone who disagrees with u as Andhra-based. I dont need to lie or pretend abt who I am. Everyone has self-respect like you but u shud be matured enough to absorb differences.

    If u start talking about burning houses, breaking law etc terrorism is not far off. U don't seem to mind attacking fellow Indians to achieve ur goals.

    Also, read what a taser is. Indiais going to buy enough tasers soon to be given to police to treat pests.

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  112. Everybody trying to be oversmart by disowning KCR.

    I think otherwise, every Anti Telangana person try to be over smart by making a 'always elections looser' to the head of the current T agitation.

    They keep say his fast is fake, they wantedly forgets he had to continue his fake fast because people are angry at him for stopping his fast on second day.

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  113. as i cant bear your constant blackmail and whining.

    What about the Seemanras@ settled in Nizamabad, Warrangal etc? Dont say you made T people angry by grabbing HYD from them and left these innocents for angry mob?

    :)

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  114. @Aravind You Dumb Andhra Pretender.

    <<<Also, read what a taser is. Indiais going to buy enough tasers soon to be given to police to treat pests.


    Aravind I guess you never participated in a real Protest in your Pathetic life.
    Do you know what it is like to be Hit by a Fiber Lathi by a Conistable, your Skin will swell like hell, it will burn for weeks.
    I would prefered to be Tased anyday rather than getting "welts" from a lathi.

    You will be my first Choice for DGP of AP, who can come up with Genius Ideas like using Tasers for Crowd Control.

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  115. For crowd control You need simple things:

    Rigorous Crowd Control drill for Police.(and some discipline for andhra police will help)

    Giving a Pepper Spray Can to each police.

    Not Using Tear Gas Shells like Idiots, Ive seen sometimes they fired against the direction of wind,they were the one who ended up with Tears.

    Standard Riot Gear. Not the crappy shields and vests our police use.

    Use Helicopters to monitor Crowds.

    Dont Use Excessive force.

    A good Public Anouncement Systems,a Blowhorns for 10 police will be good.

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  116. @wiki

    it is u who pretend to help Telangana and bring bad name to the state of AP. Again... if u can read english correctly, I and my generations are born and brought up in T (nalgonda and karimnagar).

    "You will be my first Choice for DGP of AP, who can come up with Genius Ideas like using Tasers for Crowd Control."

    Sure I will take it. For crowd control, I dont mind using bullets and will reserve special treatment for people who fight police. One thing is sure... u will regret rest of ur life in the bed waiting for wounds to heal and walk some day.

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  117. @Aravind
    <<<it is u who pretend to help Telangana and bring bad name to the state of AP.


    Aravind you are a BAD lier , you have to come up with better lies to make me believe u are not Andhra.
    Do you even believe the crap coming out of your little andhra head.

    Bad Name, Breaking Legs you sound more like a wussy elementary teacher. Are You?

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  118. @Andhra Aravind

    <<<One thing is sure... u will regret rest of ur life in the bed waiting for wounds to heal and walk some day.


    For one thing I dont stick to Bed and piss in it like you for flesh wounds.
    Broken Bones Maybe ,even then I wont quit.

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  119. @Aravind
    <<<Sure I will take it. For crowd control, I dont mind using bullets and will reserve special treatment for people who fight police.


    DGP Great, but i will rather die than see you become Chief of Army, Cant Imagine what kind of Lethal weaponary you will field against Pakis or Chinese( May be "stink" bombs instead of "nuclear" ones)

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  120. @Aravind

    <<<For crowd control, I dont mind using bullets .


    Bullets and Tasers for Crowd Control, Genius you are more Demented than members of SKC.
    Bullets range-300Meters
    Taser- 6meters

    What will you do in between?

    Guess you will shout and warn OU students that theyr bringin Bad Name for AP,Dumb Moron.


    Even after reading my suggestions?
    you must be a slow learner.
    and
    Sun Tzu will be weeping in his Grave if he hears your "doctrine".

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  121. @Wiki

    u pathetic pinhead.. get up and fight on the streets with the police. Dont talk beyond what u can comprehend. Think slowly what u said and SHOW IT on the streets.

    While other people are nursing their wounds, u don't seem to realize and talk bullshit. If u have any self-respect for T cause u believe in, STOP barking and show some contribution.

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  122. >>none not a single person condemened for such statements.

    I wonder who condemned when TG threaten the telangana saying he will bring back the factionalism and bomb the telangana, cut the limbs etc?

    I wonder who condemned when Lagadapati comparaed the TG agitators with Talibans, Naxals.

    I wonder who condemned when Seemandras gave a report to SKC saying 'asking a separate state is anti national'

    and sooooo on. they never count there mistakes.....

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  123. >>Andhra region was already using that water for more than 100 years ,so it got more water than TG.

    Indirectly saying తరువాత ఆలస్యంగా అబివృద్ది చెందే వాళ్ళు సంక నాకి పోవాలి. వాళ్ళకు నీళ్ళు ఉండవు.

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  124. But today ,option 5 says ,we get centre ,state money for building andhra capital ,consensus is a must ,safeguards for settlers.

    I dont agree with that, you had the same chance last year to demand a beautiful package last year.

    If central says option-5 with no package for new capital, I say it is not fare.

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  125. i cant bear your constant blackmail and whining.

    I thought the same... :)

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  126. @Vikram

    Indirectly saying తరువాత ఆలస్యంగా అబివృద్ది చెందే వాళ్ళు సంక నాకి పోవాలి. వాళ్ళకు నీళ్ళు ఉండవు.




    And yada yada yada..... whatever....

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  127. 1. Timepass ?
    Good. Now you understand how one-sided propaganda works. Thousands of Telangana people shout "1956 merger was forced". Other side tried to reason with proof that the then T leaders were involved. You simply dismiss all that in the name of people wish.

    2. No one asked Seemandras to leave Telangana by leaving everything behind.
    Really? Then where from the 'Andhra bhagaavo has come?'
    How KCR can be ignored? Employees and Students are with him. T-Congress not leading the movement and KCR did not allow T-TDP.

    3. First CBN, then central.
    CBN is after all a losing politician. Center is an accountable constitutional body. Did it stop petro price hike despite so much protest from all opposition parties? Did it accept JPC for scams? Listen to what evanth Reddy and Jhansi say.

    4. You can interpret in any way. You tell us whom to elect when every one is promising the same?
    Be honest to yourself. Did congress include Telangana promise in election manifesto? 2004 or 2009.

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  128. "
    What about the Seemanras@ settled in Nizamabad, Warrangal etc? Dont say you made T people angry by grabbing HYD from them and left these innocents for angry mob? "

    Central forces will protect them if required.

    And stop barking about " we will kill andhras in Hyd " ,"we will kill andhras in nizamabad" . Are you capable of murdering your neighbours ? Even if you are capable ,not all telanganas are like you. This is a democracy with ultimate power lying with parliament not with drunken mobs in OU or other parts of TG.

    And lastly ,Andhras are capable of giving a fitting reply even if it is in Hyd ,Nizamabad,Warangal.

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  129. One more gem from SKC :

    Regarding Option 5 (bifurcation) this is what SKC says on page 451

    "the impact on internal security situation with the anticipated growth of Naxalism and religious fundamentalism."

    Put in simple words it says if TG is given Naxalism and religious fundamentalism will grow. Naxals will make a big comeback in T state and it will become a safe haven for the naxals all over the country.

    Muslims will be provoked by BJP. They are sure to conduct a gujarat like experiment in TG to consolidate their position.

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  130. Reg. KCR

    Who started the threatening statements in the movement? Was it Lagadapati, was it TG?
    Just bcoz other side calls for unity, should they be Buddhas and respond to provocations with smiles?


    Who is front runner in movement? T-congress, T-TDP, Gaddar? Who has the largest following in movement? Srinivas Goud, Vithal, Balka suman all are with KCR. Gaddar's front was a still-born baby.

    Of course it is not new about many T-vaadis. Till date nobody understood and owned why T leaders accepted merger in 1956. They have conveniently ignored Andhra Mahasabha and vote in Hyderabad assembly. Some authors revered by T-vaadis even lied voting in Hyderabad assembly. On one hand they quote Nehru about Telugu imperialism. But they ignore Nehru's final call to merge the states.
    Hypocracy has limits. There are times one has to be honest to oneself.

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  131. T movement was and is always being used for political benefits.
    In 2004 when congress and in 2009 when TDP formed an ally with TRS, saying that they do not oppose Telangana, what were this seemandhra leaders doing?
    The next thing is that the leaders here lack unity.All the ministers who have a cabinet position remain dumb after the report was out.Has Jaipal Reddy uttered a single word till now on telangana?

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  132. @ Green

    "
    Eenadu said the violations are around 50K. These are current violations.

    2lak is the number what we lost from the day of merging (because of dilution of mulki rules). If you dont see the difference, I cant explain again. I did this tens of times already. "

    Please tell me on which page of girgilani report is this 2 lakh figure mentioned. Girgilani investigated violations from 1975 and arrived at this figure of 18000.

    Did eenadu quote from girgilani report or the reports submitted by T Unions ?

    Also even on that 18000 ,it does not say whether all 18000 are from andhra zones. Zone 5 people are violators when work in zone 6 & zone 6 people are violatore when they work in zone 5.

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  133. You simply dismiss all that in the name of people wish.
    Who said that T leaders were never involved? Infact in current agitation there few T leaders who like United Andhra, and few other Seemandra leaders who like state bifurcation. We only saying there was a discussion in HYD assembly but the voting never took place.

    Then where from the 'Andhra bhagaavo has come?'
    So, you want to take advantage of a bad leader and criticizes all Telangana@, why do you think whole telangan is behind the that KCR? If so, why he keep not getting enough seats in elections? Your argument is like Chaina declared war on India by taking Chiru's threats seriously. I would love to see if you can prove the video footage of 'andhra bhajo' if you cut the entire statement and keep which you like, the meaning itself changes, I wantedly ignored the contest of the statement. I challenged this many times no one able to show me a video footage. Same way TG venkatesh and lagadapati made same kind of statements from Seemandra, do you want us to believe that all Seemandra is behind them?

    CBN is after all a losing politician.
    That looser should apologize to the TG people for betraying them then needed. Otherwise we like him to be a looser for his life time. Right now we are no interested in Congress scams, if you want to defend CBN , this is not a right place for you.

    Did congress include Telangana promise in election manifesto?
    I dont think so, that is only mouth publicity from congress, I have hard copy of TDP manifesto for recent assembly elections. I can prove TDP supported the Telangana in there manifesto.

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  134. Central forces will protect them if required.

    So, why cant they do the same in HYD? Any one can say they are more venerable out side the HYD than inside the HYD. Doesn't it proving you only care of HYD but not the lives of settlers?

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  135. And stop barking about " we will kill andhras in Hyd "

    It is you always bring this topic by taking a shit head KCRs dialogs into account.

    I just asked if your real intensions of grabbing HYD for safety of settlers, I am curious whats your plans about other settlers?

    If you cant debate, I can understand, no need to panic.

    And lastly ,Andhras are capable of giving a fitting reply even if it is in Hyd ,Nizamabad,Warangal.

    If so, the the whole argument about HYD/settlers safety is nonsense. Got you. Whole India knows the United Andhra movement is nothing but 'we want Hyd'. By the way, I too can say many words like you, but in reality, settlers are no capable of defending themselves in non HYD areas. Any way I hope you dont drag the situation till that state

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  136. Who said that T leaders were never involved? Infact in current agitation there few T leaders who like United Andhra, and few other Seemandra leaders who like state bifurcation. We only saying there was a discussion in HYD assembly but the voting never took place.
    Hope you are in AP and watching TV. Even yesterday many people, from across various walks of life, on HM TV called merger was forced on Telangana.
    Not having a vote is the biggest lie. If you can get, see Indian Express newspapers of November and December 1955.
    Even this news about no vote in Hyderabad assembly was also orchstrated propaganda. There are many more lies about stand of KV Rangareddy and even the "sixth finger" comment.

    Decades ago Telangana elders willingly accepted the merger. First you must own the fact and talk further. Every kid talks as though Telangana was forcibly raped by otherside.
    You talk of your self-respect but forget that of others'. Telugus on otherside survived and fared better than Telugus in Telangana for 150 years.
    But today fanatics project as if they survived all those 150 years just to expliot Telangana people.

    Even yesterday Harish rao and KTR use 'dopidi' and threaten consequences in public discussions. Greats like Haragopal, Chukka Raamayya do not event try to cool them.

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  137. >>Put in simple words it says if TG is given Naxalism and religious fundamentalism will grow.

    As per central govt four districts from TG and other four districts from SA are identified as Naxal effected districts.

    It is wrong propaganda to say only TG will be effected by Naxals. Infact there are many more attack cases so far on dalits in SA area only .

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  138. >>Who started the threatening statements in the movement?

    KCR is a rejected leader from TG. As long as you took the same path as KCR, then you are not better than him. Dont act like saint , and dont teach us lessons.

    >>Till date nobody understood and owned why T leaders accepted merger in 1956.

    May be you dont know, but we know very well, we thought you will honer the agreements, we dont know you are such cheater at that time.

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  139. "It is you always bring this topic by taking a shit head KCRs dialogs into account.

    I just asked if your real intensions of grabbing HYD for safety of settlers, I am curious whats your plans about other settlers?

    If you cant debate, I can understand, no need to panic."

    Hello sir ,it was you who said settlers in nizamabad , warangal will be targeted ,not KCR.

    Regarding plans for protecting settlers outside Hyd , we will have an act similar to SC/ST attrocities prevention act

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  140. >>Some authors revered by T-vaadis even lied voting in Hyderabad assembly.

    I and you can talk hundreds , as long as you dont produce a proof about voting, I advice you to shut ....

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  141. Please tell me on which page of girgilani report is this 2 lakh figure mentioned.

    Did I said that Girglani concluded the lost jobs about 2laks? Girglani and 2lak jobs are two separate statements. Looks like you are in hurry to prove me without reading my statements properly.

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  142. "If so, the the whole argument about HYD/settlers safety is nonsense. Got you. Whole India knows the United Andhra movement is nothing but 'we want Hyd'. By the way, I too can say many words like you, but in reality, settlers are no capable of defending themselves in non HYD areas. Any way I hope you dont drag the situation till that state "

    Whole India knows TG movement is nothing but we want Hyd for entirely ourselves in whose development our role is minimal.

    Why dont you target settlers and see whether they are capable of defending themselves or not ?

    Anyway ,no individual or group needs to have that kind of capability. It is the duty of state to protect everyone. Thats why we have police. A concept which naxal mindset people like you may not be aware

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  143. >>Decades ago Telangana elders willingly accepted the merger.

    only with certain agreements. And you cheated by betraying the terms.

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  144. >>we will have an act similar to SC/ST attrocities prevention act

    :)

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  145. >>Whole India knows TG movement is nothing but we want Hyd for entirely ourselves in whose development our role is minimal.

    Yes, whole india knows how you betrayed telangana by breaking agreements, now locked them by threaten to grab the HYD. Every one knows you came here because you had a shitty capital. Now you are crying like a baby that you cant live without Telangana.

    You are soooo coward that instead of saying you want HYD, you say United Andhra. Coward....

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  146. >>Why dont you target settlers and see whether they are capable of defending themselves or not ?

    We already targeted in minor incidents, nothing happened, you settlers sit like mums.

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  147. >>A concept which naxal mindset people like you may not be aware

    Yes, we dont understand a vampire, how lives by sucking other humans blood.

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  148. Put in simple words it says if TG is given Naxalism and religious fundamentalism will grow.

    Name one region on the planet where both Naxalism and religious fundamentalism grow together. It is generally known that they are mutually exclusive.

    Srikrishna is proving himself to be worse than Tughlaq.

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  149. "Did I said that Girglani concluded the lost jobs about 2laks? Girglani and 2lak jobs are two separate statements. Looks like you are in hurry to prove me without reading my statements properly."

    Then please tell me how did you arrive at this figure . What is the source of this figure ? Is it a committee report or government report or atleast a news agency report?

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  150. "Srikrishna is proving himself to be worse than Tughlaq."

    Srikrishna has proved that Telangana movement is based on lies and half truths.

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  151. Name less:

    Srikrishna has proved that Telangana movement is based on lies and half truths.

    Srikrishna proved no such thing. He does not carry enough evidence to prove it. Also he did a shoddy job. Nobody will take this report seriously. Ten years from now, we will laugh that India spent so much money and time to create such a farcical report.

    We are in the process of rubbishing each of the claims in this report. It has only started. It will reach a crescendo by the time state is formed.

    For example, just take a look at the new post on this blog. You will then know how Srikrishna used flawed statistics.

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  152. "Every one knows you came here because you had a shitty capital. Now you are crying like a baby that you cant live without Telangana. "

    We came here to teach you civilization. Nizam knew you guys were capable of nothing ,so he invited andhras to teach you agriculture (fact confirmed by SKC) , he invited northies,marathas to establish business. Your role in building Hyd is minimal

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  153. Name less:

    We came here to teach you civilization.

    You cannot expect Telanganas to live with you in the same state when you continue to harbor such feelings of arrogance and superiority.

    The same logic that applied to Andhra State to be formed out of Madras State applies to Telangana State now.

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  154. "The same logic that applied to Andhra State to be formed out of Madras State applies to Telangana State now."

    Good ,but remember India decided that andhras were should give up chennai as per that logic

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  155. "
    You cannot expect Telanganas to live with you in the same state when you continue to harbor such feelings of arrogance and superiority. "

    Is arrogance worse than hatred ?

    Also ,Hindus feel superior to Muslims ,yet they live in same country ,same states.

    Upper castes feel superior to Lower castes ,yet they live in same country ,same states.

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  156. DISCLAIMER: This is meant only for those who agree that merger in 1956 was not forced but based on some agreements. I accept the insincerity of SeemaAndhra leaders in implementing Gentlements agreement. Rest please stop barking at me with same nonsense of promises/U-turns/dopidi etc.



    Act 1:
    The marriage
    1. The merger was only a proposal from SeemaAndhra, whereas Telangana leaders invited Seemaandhra for merger offering the capital.
    2. Telangana people had suspicions. Let us assume Yes. Agreements were made to address them. Still some (or majority?) of them not in favor of merger.
    3. Merger happened constitutionally with 2/3 vote in Hyderabad assembly and SRC Act in parliament.

    A marriage of unwilling rich girl but with consent of elders. Yet the marriage is legally valid.

    Act 2:
    The unhappy girl
    1. Telangana people are unhappy. They want to separate.
    2. They give clear mandate to the political outfit that championed their cause.
    3. The movement was oppressed and betrayed by the political outfit.
    4. Leaders accept another round of compromise formula.

    Girl is forced to continue in the marraige.

    Act 3:
    The discontented boy
    1. Seemaandhra rake-up self respect. T-vaadis say they faked a movement, nevertheless there was Jai Andhra movement.
    2. Telangana leaders commit the worst historical blunder. Instead of accepting the offer, they call for Telugu unity.
    3. Another set of formulas.

    The pregnant girl is not allowed to escape the bonds of marriage. Once again by her own relatives.

    Act 4:
    The family
    1. There was people movement across regions. Naturally towards capital in search of jobs and opportunities.
    2. By and large family is developing though there are disparities.
    3. There is big momentum and capital emerges on the world map.
    4. There are ramblings here and there by Telangana people. But by and large entire state working towards development.

    Girl now becomes even richer woman with big family but maintains silence for long about her unhappyness.

    Act 5:
    Another divorce call
    1. Telangana leaders say region is richer, contributing huge revenue to AP and yet people are poor.
    2. They forget 1974 unity call by leaders if the region but re-open history with full of lies.
    3. They demand Seemandhra leave all the public wealth created in Hyderabad and leave for their regions.

    Girl richer and wiser wants to kick the husband out penniless. She talks of pride again forgetting her repeated acceptance of marriage. She even forgot husband's husband to part ways long back. Throws entire blame on husband.


    Title: Journey of a girl - transition from innocent to greedy

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  157. DISCLAIMER: This is meant only for those who agree that merger in 1956 was not forced but based on some agreements. I accept the insincerity of SeemaAndhra leaders in implementing Gentlements agreement. Rest please stop barking at me with same nonsense of promises/U-turns/dopidi etc.

    Anonymous. You have hit the nail on the head. Kudos.

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  158. Yemi chepavu anna anonymous.

    Aslau nuvvu yevaru? Nizam cheppavu.

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  159. Anonymous. What a wonderful way of putting things.

    Neeku manci imagination undi.

    This is the right analogy/simile.

    KCR gadu pedda lucha, lafanga.

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  160. Srikrishna proved no such thing. He does not carry enough evidence to prove it. Also he did a shoddy job. Nobody will take this report seriously. Ten years from now, we will laugh that India spent so much money and time to create such a farcical report.

    This is exactly on same lines of discussion between KTR and Payyavula Keshev on NTv.

    KTR: Government did not provide comprehensive data (samagramaina samaashaaram) to SKC.
    Keshev: SKC took it directly from government departments.
    KTR: They have not given complete data.
    Keshav: Are you ready to drop 'dopidi' slogan if we prove the data is correct.
    KTR: Departments not giving complete data.
    Keshav: Tell me who should verify the data?
    Prasada reddy (A journalist): Shall we go for any independent investigative agency?
    KTR: There is no complete data Nobody maintained it.

    So KTR says there is no NO DATA but that DATA is INCOMPLETE.

    A joke on Bigbang theory (from RD)
    "So sir, there was nothing initially. Then this bigbang happedned and everything created".

    No need to wait for Ten years to laugh, rest of India will do it right-away with T-vaadis meaningless arguments.

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  161. Aslau nuvvu yevaru? Nizam cheppavu.
    Perlenduku tammi? muchhata bagunnada leedaa? Oka pakka Telangana tammeelu 'mahabharata yuddam naatike Andhrollu Telanganollu veramtannaru'.

    Mana sujai anna emantado soodaale.

    Sare gaani ee pali nijamlo 'j' vaadu. Lekunte ninnu nannu Nizaam tottulantaru. :-)

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  162. Perlenduku tammi? muchhata bagunnada leedaa? Oka pakka Telangana tammeelu 'mahabharata yuddam naatike Andhrollu Telanganollu veramtannaru'.

    Mana sujai anna emantado soodaale.

    Sare gaani ee pali nijamlo 'j' vaadu. Lekunte ninnu nannu Nizaam tottulantaru. :-)


    Yemi chepavu anna.

    Whatever you said one thing the way I see it is clear. if TG guys are not going to negotiate on Hyderabad, there is no solution.

    There will be unrest in Telangana and Hyderabad which is to the detriment of telangana but seema-andhra will go on developing.

    Yenti anna. Ade naa?

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  163. @Sujai (original blogger)...

    If "states were formed to satisfy aspirations of people of a certain region", then if you go and ask all the people living in Hyderabad twin cities and if the "Majority" people want Hyd as a separate state/UT by itself, can you agree for Telangana without Hyderabad? First of all, does any ProT guys have any dare to agree for going for such a referendum from people living in Hyderabad twin cities alone?
    By ProTelangana guys' claim that "Telangana if and only if with-Hyderabad" itself reveals how crooked the motives of "FEW" of the ProTelanganaGuys. The rest of ProT guys ended up being ProT because they believed whatever the lies that those "FEW" ProT guys told them. First 424 pages of SKC reports proves (just putting together the statistics collected over years) that those are just lies by those "FEW" ProT guys for their selfish political gain.
    With situation that those "FEW" ProT guys injected hatred in the minds of other innocent Telangana people on Andhra people, even the recommendation #6 is very difficult. Not recommending #6 would also be backed up by the fact that per SKC report when Rayalaseema itself is proven to be lagging behind Telangana, why only separate package for Telangana? Moving on for other options..., if NOT recommendation #2, at least recommendation #4 would be ideal, as it's some thing like giving "a fair opportunity for all the 3 regions centered by extended HYD UT type region to develop themselves and prosper."
    If the first 424 pages were made available to common Telangana people all "those" people who became ProT "innocently" can change their mind and could come up with suggestion totally different from SKC's.. #7!


    If "Data can be cooked and misinterpreted.", how can you say that data has not been cooked by all those ProT parties claiming T region is lagging?


    Even though SKC report listed 6 options, the report itself belittled some of them as not workable/plausible.


    From the fact that you are "blogging" I would assume that you are educated enough to understand leadership (CM and Deputy CM) should vested upon the potent leaders available during that time and NOT by recommendations! Weather 4 or 6 CMs from Telangana, it doesn't matter! How many people you saw from coastal Andhra that cried that length of years ruled by Rayalaseema region CMs is more than coastal Andra's?
    As a matter of fact the # of PMs (or length of years ruled) from Northern India is far more than Southern India. Rather than treating statistics like this jealously / with hatred, if one can convert that to positive energy and become or groom others in the region to become good leaders, it can help region/state/nation.
    We need to come out of mind set for reservation of CM / Dy CM seat for specific reason, otherwise even if separate Telangana is formed now, it could end up as North Telangana and South Telangana in couple of decades time!


    In report comprising of aprox 500 pages, it would be possible that few mistakes/bloopers exist. Calling it a lie requires backing up that claim with a proper proof.


    Glad that number of bloopers (4) listed here could be counted with just one my hands! Excellent job SKC team!!

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  164. @Sujai
    Before 1947, during 1930 and 1940s, Indian ministers held offices. They were elected leaders. Leaders like Nehru and Patel were ministers.

    I seriously believe whoever draws parallel between Andhra/settlers and British need to get themselves checked for their mental state. The Indian ministers held offices but were never held the office of PM/President/Governor General. While PVNR, Jalagam Vengala Rao, Chenna Reddy, Anjaiah and many more held highest offices at state level.

    British used to put a signboard "Indians & Dogs are not allowed" , I do not think such kind of treatment was/is meeted out to natives ? All are equal in democracy and people were treated as such.

    Your posts are fast becoming recipe for hatred and violence more than anything else. Focus on real problems. A new state or an old state, the underlying problems are not going to get solved by change of guard where the same clowns will sit at the throne.
    If you cared to spend your energies in educating and bringing awareness to downtrodden, you could have commended yourself for a job well done instead of dishing out post of after post with same pungent, virulent diatribe. Did you ever, ever question your elected representatives why they could not put up a fight instead of whining about andhra domintation. I am sorry but I am compelled to use the word whining because that is all I am seeing from majority of pro-telangana posters on this forum. If you call all andhra migrants as settlers , I might call all those people who simply drop their shoulders and give up to compete and then complain about andhra domination as nothing but bunch of whiners. Period.You need to realize that the problem is with in not somewhere else. If those elected clowns from telangana (119 proud legislators) had an iota of self-respect and integrity things wouldn't have reached this far.

    Think about it.

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  165. @Vishnu,

    recently there is new slogan from KCR "maadi maggavaale, meedi maaggaavaale". He attributed it to Andhra minds. In reality he wants that. All TG politicians enjoyed their doing nothing for their people. Now that Hyderabad is ready-made revenue getter, they want it to occupy in the name of aatma gouravam.

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  166. Rahul:

    I seriously believe whoever draws parallel between Andhra/settlers and British need to get themselves checked for their mental state.

    This blog has been drawing parallels with the current Andhra domination with that of British domination. Telangana is described as 'internal colony' and Andhras as 'masters'.

    If you are upset with those comparisons and analogies you have a choice not to visit this blog ever again.

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  167. If "Data can be cooked and misinterpreted.", how can you say that data has not been cooked by all those ProT parties claiming T region is lagging?

    Bcoz their patriarch Prof. Jayshankar told them so.
    One simple example
    Prof. Jayashankar says Bachawat award did injustice to Telangana by not allocating water based on catchment area. Basis for his argument is International water sharing rule of Helisinki.
    Sounds very much correct. Right?
    If one opens Bachawat award, the very first chapter discusses the same Helisinki rules at length.

    So it is like comedy scene in 'appula apparao'
    Potti Prasad: a appaarao unnaraa?
    Brahmanandam: a appaaravandi?
    Potti Prasad: a appaaravandi
    Brahmanandam: a appaaravandi?
    Potti Prasad: a appaaravandi
    Brahmanandam: ade a appaaravandi?

    it goes on.

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  168. @Anonymous

    Anonymous said...

    @Vishnu,

    recently there is new slogan from KCR "maadi maggavaale, meedi maaggaavaale". He attributed it to Andhra minds. In reality he wants that.....



    Iddharu kalisi aavu doodanu thechchi penchithe, adhi pedhdha aavu ayina tharvatha, andulo okadu paalu naaku, adhi musalidayyi chanipothe daani kalebaram neeku annadu anta.

    Alaa undhi gee KCR gaadi mind!

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  169. If you are upset with those comparisons and analogies you have a choice not to visit this blog ever again

    Sujai always resorts to this if he doesn't have a logical counter argument. He doesn't even want to think even for a second that others may be right and he may be wrong. NEVER. I know that this comment will also evoke the same response from him.

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  170. 1st point itself is illogical

    please read carefully the statistics given in the page 407 of the SKC report

    “The table given below shows the total number of years for which
    the positions of Chief Minister and Deputy Chief Minister have been held by
    persons from the three regions between the years 1956-2010.”

    the total number of CMs is 25 (6+9+10) (it is not the number of CMs but the the total number of terms for 16 CMs). It means some cms are elected twice or more making the number to 25


    6 times for tg region includes..

    1. burgula ramakrishna rao up to 31 oct 1956(mahabubnagar)
    2.pvnarsimharao 1971-1973(karimnagar)
    3.jalgam vengalrao 1973-1978(khammam)
    4.marrichennareddy 1978-1980(rangareddy)
    5. tanguturi anjaiah 1980-1982(medak)
    6. marrichennareddy 1989-1990(rangareddy)


    i request u not to point out anyone with out analysing properly

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  171. @Anonymous :

    FYI Dr.Burgula Ramakrishna Rao was the Chief Minister of Hyderabad and not AP.

    The first CM of AP was Neelam Sanjeev Reddy.Count it from there you will see only 4 (including Jalagam Vengala Rao whose orgin is not in Telangana)

    Marri Chenna Reddy was elected twice though his tenure was only for 3 and half yrs odd including both the times he became CM

    Even if you count this two time, the number of CMs are still 5 but not 6 :-)

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  172. They included the CM's from Hyderabad state and
    they included two CM's from Andhra state too
    Then only the number comes to 10 from coastal region, otherwise it is 8 only.

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  173. Sujai said 'Do I see a possibility of bonhomie between people of various regions after the violent suppression in this region? '.
    This is really a very irrational statement coming from a person who is supposed to be rational.
    If there is a violent suppression going on, surely it is not being carried by your next door seemandhra neighbors.Even for the claimed injustice or discrimination your seema andhra friends are responsible.Why do you target them at all?They have come here in search of jobs/livlihood.I am reminded of the way the poor bhel puri sellers (from Bihar ) were treated in Mumbai as if they were stealing the available oppurtunities from the so called locals.
    Even kids are shouting Jai Telanagana! In the first place why are the innocent minds tutored this way?Have you seen 'The boy in pink striped pyjamas' ?. A twelve year old says Jews are root cause of all the problems being faced by the fatherland! How did she know that?..not by education nor by research..only by indoctrination!
    When you say you have stamina to carry out till 2064, well ,why do you resort to methods by which software projects are slowly but surely getting diverted to Bengaluru or Chennai?Why do you take the agiation to such a level?Initially the complaint was lack of development and the fight against that is now slowly becoming a stumbling block for the development.
    Please remember that the prudent thing is to oppose the exploiters and the exploiters come in all colours,sizes and are from all regions.
    If a separate state is formed there is no problem.Even if it is delayed please do not target ordinary individuals.It is the responsibility of people like you to sow the seeds of bonhomie between people of various regions.
    More over it is the political leadeship of Telangana which is to be squarely blamed for the violent turn of events and loss of lives.Why are suicides eulogized at the drop of a hat ? I have full sympathy for those precious lives but they were deliberately and cleverly driven to that extreme step by vested interests.Madhu Yashki without any provocation once said ' I am ready to face the first bullet..'.He and Harish Rao who doused himself with kerosine are still safe and kicking but in the mean time hundred of lives are lost.
    It is very sad that so many people took that extreme step.if you are keen to see that no more such things happen ,please stop eulogizing atma balidanams .
    Rachanalu
    rachanalu@gmail.com

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